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The Case for Logic

oooh, big bad "nuclear Iran" (that has no nukes, and no means to deliver any, and is content to live within its borders, unlike USA), how scary. and poor little Israel (with 200+ nuclear missles). yes, you are SOOOOOOOOOO logical!!!

"no chance of winning" - Another "objective journalist" showing her stripes. Go buy that absolutely can't lose lottery ticket or make a billion on that gift of prophecy in the stock market. Such amazing ability to predict the future is wasted in "responsible journalism".Too bad you didn't live in 1902 when most believed flying had "no chance". You would have been so right on that one. Your predictions have as much validity."Objective journalism" - thanks for proving it is dead. W5? What's that?

Sorry you bought the Kool aid on the Iran "nuclear threat". It shows how easy it is to manipulate people to support the trillion dollar war machine. Do you also agree with the GOP we should therefore not cut one cent from military spending? Ron Paul is absolutely right, and this latest fiasco in Pakistan will force more national debate on the US insane foreign policy which is making us a pariah among nations.

Jim,First of all, Burt is a guy. Second, his intent is not to be an "objective journalist," as he is a commentator - aka, an opinion writer. Get the difference?And Chad, you sound like a Ron Paul fanatic - a walkiing and talking foreign policy disaster! Even Burt is too easy on Mr. Paul, who seems to think teeny tiny, albeit nuclear, Israel is snug as a bug in a rug as it sits almost entirely surrounded by enemies. Those enemies, incidentally, are mostly Iran proxies who may also "go nuclear" when Iran does. Concerning the enormous danger to ourselves and Israel, you Ron Paul lovers need to get your heads out of the sand.Burt, interesting take on Santorum. Unlike you, I think he's a great conservative who is right on virtually every issue. If only he would get that crinkly-forehead, put-upon expression off his face, he might appeal to more conservative voters. But I think he's destined to look like a perpetual sour puss. Too bad.

First, Burt is a man. Second, this is an Opinion Column, so it's not Journalism. Lastly, there is not now, nor has there ever been, any such thing as Objective Journalism.

Y'all just keep alternatively portraying Ron Paul supporters as 'fanatics' and 'nuts', and blowing his candidacy off as a throw-away. You reveal yourselves as no different than the Leftists who demonize and ignore the Tea Party. Keep it up.

Well Burt, it seems you have an evolving following. What happened to the days of more conservative, more mature responses to your essays?Although I do not not comment very often anymore, I`ve followed along and noticed a growing, hostile and aggressive trend to your new, present commentators. I must say this reminds me of the twenty years I lived in Phoenix. In Phoenix, during my 89-09 time frame, liberals from the west coast increasingly migrated to Phoenix, seemingly transforming Phoenix into the west coast Mecca for the immatured.I say seemingly because I realized the liberals have also targeted other safe "havens", mostly major, western cities, unless they are wealthy in which case they do the suburban thing. It was so sad watching the inodus of the immatured, knowing they were the rats abandoning the homeland, now throughly gnawed to the bone, in search of a greener world in which to begin anew the way of the immatured.But then I remembered the east coast, where the immatured liberals of New England would do the same thing. Once they had so wrecked their own it was time to move on to the greener pastures of the old south to start anew the immatured lifestyle that would do to their new home what they did to their old home.It would seem that liberals are intoxicated with their immaturity, for just like the Hispanics that forsake the "dump" they have created when they illegally invade the new land, they, both Hispanic and liberal, begin immediately transforming said new land into the same dump they first created and then ran from with inconsiderate, illegal abandonment. One wonders, is there a shortage of brain power? Are they intoxicated with the liberal illness that pervades everything in a land dominated by liberal ideology? Do they need time to detoxify?There is undoubtedly a better guess, they simply refuse to mature. Why bother doing all that work to mature when it is so much easier to just satisfy oneself at the expense of others, and then just blame those same others. Be the topic national or international, the liberal will take the way of the immatured every time. Islam coming at you, stick your head in the sand, pretend you think it is your matured fellow countrymens fault. Want something for nothing at someone elses expense, vote democrat they will make a law. Brethrens say the liberal, democrat sheppards unto their liberal flock, bother not yourself with maturing, let us stick together and force those who will do the work to mature to carry our burden, pay our bill, for we are to busy satisfing our immatured way to be bothered maturing and pulling our fair share of the load.Humans are a creature of social chess, America has become a fully enfranchised democracy, surely there is some good to these realities, but obviously there is some bad. If the way of the immatured liberal, or the insane democrat carrys on to far, much like the parasite and its host, our founding fathers America will totally die, and we Americans will become a souless lot floundering in tyranny, poverty and the misery such a state begets. Thank you.

Chad, Chad, Chad, you........What you fail to see with Iran is that it is run by holocaust denying, antisemetic radical Islamists admittedly bent on "wiping Israel off the face of the earth."  If living within its borders means, controlling Hezbollah, Syria, supplying Iraqi and Afghan insurgents and constantly meddling in Saudi Arabia then I guess they're isolationist.How much good do you think Israel's nukes do them when their greatest threats come from immediately across their borders.  Do you imagine we could nuke Tijuana without destroying San Diego?I'm sorry, did I go over your head?

PDK: Amazing, you managed to squeeze in 20 versions of "immature" in your message. Frankly, I think you were being too kind. While liberals tend to be immature, there are far worse things one can say about them.Vicki G: Thanks for your spirited defense. I like Santorum, but I think he is doing himself a disservice by continuing to show up for these debates. He just looks more and more desperate, and less and less presidential.Chad, Jim & Oathkeeper: What you fellows seem unable to realize is that you do Rep. Paul no favors when you spring into action like trained monkeys any time someone writes honestly about him. If you actually believe he should be the GOP nominee, you would do better to state your reasons than by attacking people who disagree with you. As for comparing a nuclear Iran with Israel, you are really offbase. Israel has been a nuclear power for decades, but, in spite of being attacked with missiles every day of the year, she has never dropped a nuke on anyone. On the other hand, Ahmadinejad has vowed to nuke Israel as soon as Iran has the bomb. By stating that Iran will like America as soon as we leave the Middle East, Rep. Paul sounds exactly like the lamebrains who insisted that Hitler had no intention of invading Europe if only the world would cede Czechoslovakia to Germany.Burt

Burt thanks for responding.My reason for harping the immaturity of liberals over all the specific evil things they do and or espouse is simply because I believe all their negativity flows from this one wellspring of immaturity.Though many liberals are immature in different areas they have all learned a creed that allows them to stick together, that unstated, but greatly adhered to creed states, "I`ll pretend I believe your BS illusion, you pretend you think is the truth of objective reality, if you will pretend you believe my BS illusion that I pretend I think is the truth of reality". The BS illusion liberals create always allows them the means to sidestep the immature obstacle they failed to hurdle and subsequently refuse to do the work necessary to mature beyond. Therefore, be they selfish, jealous, cowardice, greedy, covetous or other, they are the immatured who bond together, through their unstated creed, for the group protection from having to mature.When the liberal shirks his responsibilty to mature, he necessarily, even if inadvertently, sloughs off upon his culture the price of his shirkment.I apologise if I come across as besmirching some of your new commentators, but it did strike me as obvious, and like the kid in the candy store I couldn`t resist speaking my mind.PS, on Santorum, back when I watched some Fox news, I remember I used to agree with all or most of what he said, but he always came across as to small for the job of President. I`m not sure if that is unfair, just what I remember seeing about him. Thank you.

Burt,English is our official language, even though no one wants to admit it, and it's codified in federal law.U.S. Code, Title 8, Section 1423(a)(1) and CFR (Code of Federal Regulations), Title 8, Section 312.1(a) both require that an applicant for U.S. citizenship demonstrate proficiency in written and spoken English.How could this be so if there is no official language?

Fellow CA Conservative: I don't think it's an accident that Rep. Paul seems so happy to leave Israel hanging in the wind. Unlike some, I have not forgotten that when he was seeking the nomination in 2008, it was called to his attention that over the course of the 20 years he had been putting out a monthly newsletter, a great many anti-Semitic articles had appeared in its pages. Paul's response was to claim he rarely read his own newsletter. It struck me that the time he was making his absurd statement, Barack Obama was insisting that, in spite of having sat in Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years, he had never heard Wright make any of those disgusting statements attributed to him.PDK: I'm not sure that all the sins of liberalism can be attributed to immaturity, unless you're using that word as a catchall for hypocrisy, egotism, ignorance and selfishness.Burt

Here's a voting plan that will never be implemented because it makes so much sense:On Election Day in November your vote is married up with how much you paid in taxes back in April. If you paid $50,000 in taxes, then your vote is worth 50,000. If you paid nothing (or got net income from the government), your vote is worth ZERO.Perhaps that would help solve our tax revenue problem since those who wanted to influence government with their vote would be incentivized to pay more taxes.

Burt, I wasn't aware Paul had a newsletter, thanks for the heads up. I think Santorum has great gasp for the financial mess were in and how to solve it through entittlement reform (saw him speak when in Iowa) but concentrates so much on values no one knows what else he is about.

Obama = Romney = Perry = Cain = Gingrich = GOP = Democrats. Different puppets, same deceitful/ traitorous Federal Reserve/Bankster masters.Gingrich, Perry, Romney, Cain = medical care dictatorship, $16-Trillion/bailouts, endless wars/empire, free health/education/food/house/amnesty for 3rd world invaders, racist quotas, bankster funded campaign. Thats not all. Gingrich = endless wives, $1.8-Million Freddie-mac bribe.Cain = Kansas Federal Reserve thug, "Libya swirls in my head", unauthorized finger in panties.Romney = abortion, gun control. Perry = Gardasil for little girls, "ni##erhead" on farm, "oops, whats the 3rd one?", "Bank-of-America helping him out".End the wars/empire, end the federal reserve/IMF/World Bank/BIS/UN/WTO, end racist quotas, end TSA/DHS/ADL/SPLC and other Orwellian crime syndicates.Ron Paul will restore sound money, strong national defense, liberty, free enterprise, local government, strong traditional families, Western Civilization.

> Fellow CA Consevative: Chad, Chad, Chad, you ... What you fail to see with Iran is that it is run by holocaust denying, antisemetic radical Islamists admittedly bent on "wiping Israel off the face of the earth." If living within its borders means, controlling Hezbollah, Syria, supplying Iraqi and Afghan insurgents and constantly meddling in Saudi Arabia then I guess they're isolationist.grow up, and educate yourself. people like you are living hallucinatory lives due to infectious propaganda. people that don't support Ron Paul should move to Europe where they can enjoy socialism and the affairs of other nations. you are not American, probably 100% dependent on govt and its systems, and probably make children to dump into the system for it to raise and provide for, eg, you exercise no personal responisibility for your life, your mind, and your children, and you look for 'leaders' to plunder on behalf of the Matrix that generates the dreamscape of your existence.

> Burt: If you actually believe he should be the GOP nominee, you would do better to state your reasons than by attacking people who disagree with you. As for comparing a nuclear Iran with Israel, you are really offbase.first, i attacked nobody, i attacked the supposed "logic" which was very illogical. second, i don't see anything in the Constitution that gives the federal government any authority to provide aid to foreign nations. do you? personally, i could care less about Israel. i am sick and tired of hearing about Israel for 50 years. if they can't make friends in 50 years, they never will. Iran has plenty of Jews living happily in Iran. i could care less what happens to Israel. if you support them based on some religious delusions, then support them yourself, or go move there, but don't indoctrinate people to steal my money to support them. that's just criminal. no other word for it.

"regular drug-testing for all welfare recipients."I am proud to say my state of KY recently passed such a law. PDK, I often compare the neomarxist libs to locust who just go from one farm to the next, eating, and destroying again and again.

Mike McGinn: The problem with your plan is twofold: one, a great many retired people don't pay income taxes even though they have done so for half a century; two, it would be way too easy for lunkheads like Soros, Buffet and Ted Turner, to control elections without having to contribute to the DNC or various left-wing PACS.Fellow CA Conservative: Santorum unfortunately comes across like a very nerdy guy asking a girl out on a date. Burt

Burt - Excellent, and very valid points.The former I had not considered.As for the latter...lunkheads like Soros already control politicians by buying them. If he instead paid millions in taxes to "buy" his power, at least that money would be in the general operating fund instead of the pockets of individual politicians.

Mike: The fact is, I don't really want anyone paying more in taxes because I don't trust Obama and Congress any more than I trust Soros or those other chowderheads.I find it fascinating that the mission of the 12 members of Congress on the Super Committee was to cut spending. But while the Republicans seemed serious about it, the Dems held out to raise taxes. The question is why would they need more money coming in if the object was to have less money going out.Burt

Worse than those who pay no taxes is those who receive bonuses on April 15. Of those whom I know personally, "my tax check" is going for a big screen TV, a new car and a vacation.

So now we have a committe of 12 people who can do nothing just as well as the other 523, so why do we need the rest of them? Think of the savings? I believe that the voting system should be as stated--ALL CITIZENS--but why would the dems give up their base? Most of what congress does is un-constitutional, as stated by Clyburn and Pelosi, yet nobody wants to stop it. Who could you vote for that would attempt to change all this? H--- most of them are living off the same system they are campaigning against. Is there one canidate who has said "I will not sign any exsisting Executive Orders until it has been verified Constitutional" I would vote for him. Some of these orders have been around for a long time, most of them un-constitutional, but they keep getting re-newed. What do you think the in-coming president is signing when he takes office?, with a dozen different high-buck pens when a BIC will do? In regards to logic---there isn't very much going around anymore. Just as our parents and grandparents lived though Jackson, Wilson and FDR etc, us older ones--- Burt--- seemed to have finally gotten it, but when we were younger we did the samething they are doing now. When you are young and energetic you don't think about the future. But now that it's here, we think about the rest of them now, and what they should do. Rep Lee from Idaho or Utah said it best---if YOU want to change this vote them out, but thats not possible because of the voting system and people living on the 'freebees'. One can hope, until they realize it may be to late. Govt does not work for us, they work for themselves, and they will do anything to stay in office. If anybody beleives in re-cycling, the time is now.

Marine: The good news is that unless a person voted for Obama in 2008, he certainly won't vote for the schmuck in 2012...and a great many people who voted for him last time won't make that mistake again.Burt

Burt - the schmucks are the idiots (should not insult idiots) who voted for him. The problem is who are the Republicrats going to run. We do not need another McRINO. Did you see the news article about kommandant klinton praising Gingrich? No surprise as they are both CFR members. How do you say New World Order!

Howard: I did see that Clinton praised Gingrich. The GOP will likely run Romney. Perhaps Gingrich. If you're waiting for a perfect candidate, forget it. He doesn't exist. Just be content with someone, anyone, who can remove Obama from the Oval Office.Just for the record, Reagan wasn't perfect and Jesus isn't running.Burt

Burt - you are correct about Reagan, he made four big mistakes.1. Picking Bush as VP.2. Picking George Schultz for Sec. of State.3. Picking Anthony Kennedy to be a supreme.4. Signing the amnesty bill for illegal aliens.

Chad & Sanjay, Please go back to Town Hall where the other trolls congregate. We like to read Burt's columns in peace and hear intelligent comments from other readers. Ron Paul will get us all killed, but Israel will be first and that's the end of the conversation thank you very much.

Ron Paul supporters are very scary people. Scarier than liberals even.

Howard Last: You may be correct about Reagan's mistakes, but those four pale in comparison to the ones Obozo makes every day!

Agreed about Santorum...he is a little to sanctimonious for me. Also, he always says thus and so as to his contributions in congress, but he has no proof of any improvement. In short, I believe the man is tooting his own horn, but it appears to be an invisible one as there is no proof that he has accomplished anything in the long run. I believe that Newt is the most intelligent, the most capable of debating Obama and winning. Therefore, we should go with Newt. No candidate is perfect as the said in New Hampshire, and he is more perfect than Clinton in so many ways.

Where to start? Santorum allowed Arlen Specter, one of the worst ever, to win a seat before defecting to the Democrats, where he lost. As far as obama having no chance, I hope so, but I thought the communist, draft-dodging clinton had no chance for reelection either, but they gave us Bob Dole. Joseph Farah helped sabotage the last election by publishing a book, "None of the above," which implored people to not vote for McCain. I sent him many emails explaining how dangerous an obama presidency would be, including the Supreme Court nominations.

Burt: What surprises me most about the OWS movement is that it is so frequently mentioned by liberal "news" outlets as not much different from the Tea Party. Talk about logic! No one is so blind as one who will not see. (I know that's misquoted, but it's close.)

Chad:Not picking on just you. Why do so many say "i could care less" instead of the grammatical correct "I COULDN'T care less?" Think about it!

If anybody pays taxes, then everybody ought to pay taxes. And the way to fix campaign finance is to only allow persons qualified to vote for a specific candidate to contribute money to that campaign. My garbage collector would be a better POTUS than Obama. (And I don't even know his politics.)

Water flows downhill. Selective law enforcement. BHO unilaterally directs noncompliance with a law, Holder takes no action against interfernce with an election, city mayors let protests trump laws enacted for the public good. Seems the Republic has become a weird mix of a democracy and anarchy.

JAC - Barry (or what ever the hell his real name is) did/does not make mistakes, he knows exactly what he is doing turning the U.S. into a communist state.Art - please don't insult garbage collectors by comparing them to Barry. They provide a very useful and necessary service.W.T.Door - Democracy is anarchy. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep sitting down to decide what to have for dinner. In a Republic (which the Constitution says we are, article 4, section 4) the sheep is well armed.

Howard Last. The Republic “sheep”. Armed, informed, and effective. Court pro-big government, anti-God rulings have diminished the effectiveness, and public apathy has replaced being intelligently informed. No wonder the 2nd Amendment is under attack.

Chad has been "hanging" way too long.

I am among those whose income level is below any tax bracket.I also feel I should be paying something, therefore I support a 5% tax on all purchases, including food and medicines. That way everybody, including me, the 'poor' (most of whom have more toys and better medical care than I do), the black marketeers, everybody, will have some skin in the game. I could never see why some people are not allowed to be part of the taxpaying system.Of course, in order to pass a bill of this type, the current tax system would have to be abolished in it's entirety.The rich would still be paying more than the rest of us. I don't see us buying boats, expensive sports cars and limos, caviar, and top shelf booze. That will the blood lust of the liberals who make that demand.