Where's the Hollywood crowd? Should they not join in with the anti-everything Occupy crowd? Oh, wait, they have too much money. So... why aren't the Occupy group turning on the professional atheletes and The Screen Actors Guild? Just a thought.

Perhaps the Manticoran system would work here: to vote, you have to pay more in taxes than you receive in transfer payments and direct subsidies.

See David Weber's Honorverse

Why should anyone be surprised at these protesters? Their "99%" reflects their knowledge of mathematics aquired the "new math" that the schools teach today. The premise of which is "Your answer may not always be right, but it's never wrong."

Support and passage of the Fair Tax (H. R. #25) would go a very long way toward solving a lot of the problems in this country. Why do most people recite the problems, instead of concentrating on a solution? fairtax.org

Of course, your exactly correct. The obvious parallel thought is that the working folks would take a hit if this obama supported redistribution were implemented but the workers would recover and continue...on the other hand the occupiers would immediately spend the received funds and start planning another effort for more funds.

It would be a never ending repetition effort to squeeze more out of the real workers...Thus the entire occupy effort should be shut down now. If they want to march 24/7 demonstrating their 1st amendment rights fine but as soon as they sit or squat, they are trespassing and should be arrested. Enough is enough.

John

Who is John Galt?

Hopefully, there are many of us in the "Contributing Class" who are making preparations to simply walk away from this expanding nonsense.

The idea of a simple life up in the mountains somewhere is becoming more appealing as each day goes by. Why should I bother to work so hard to earn fiat currency that the government takes most of to redistribute to those that choose to do nothing?

Besides, the coming collapse is inevitable at this point and why not start learning how to exist comfortably in what, as the many dystopian novels of the near-future are depicting, is nearly certain to be realized?

That 20 percent you say are, "Entitled", they are not. No where does it say a person who does not pay for anything, does he have title to anything. He has the right of pursuit. To be entitled, you first must be an a monetary position for it use, whether it be a ticket, or an insurance premium. The ID 10 Ts you are talking about are the receivers of doles, handouts, subsidies. A person pays for Social Security, he is entitled.

He pays for Medicare, he is entitled. He gets Food Stamps, he is not entitled, He is on welfare, He is not entiitled. Or maybe you have a different copy of the Bill of Rights and Constitution than I have.

You really don't get it do you. This movement has been going on for nearly 100 years. The brightest and smartest humanitarians the world has to offer have finally had enough of the weak, criminally insane greed of the rich. We want you all prosecuted and jailed for life. The 1 % , the corrupt politicians , the corporate fat cats are history. Leave now and be spared. You have no where to go as this is a global movement. You have already lost. The rest of the world has no place for you. We are sick of allowing you carry on your petty ways. Do you get it now ?

At least when Carter was president we merely had an idiot in the Oval Office. Idiots can cause damage, but its generally random in nature. On the other hand, Obama seems intent on destroying our society, our way of life, and this great nation of ours (or at least what's left of it). Given a choice between only Carter or Obama, I'd take Jimmy any day.

The problem is not Wall St it is the Republican and Democratic Parties. Either Party could end the corruption at any time. The unholy alliance started way before Greenspan praised Keating's business model then got promoted to Fed Chairman by Reagan. The commercial real estate scam was not run by the S&Ls it was run by the Republican and Democratic Parties. Then latest in the long line of housing bubbles was not caused by Wall St it was the Republican and Democratic Parties. Larry Summers, Timothy Gietner, Paul Volker, Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke have worked for both Parties.

The real problem is that the people ripping off America every year for hundreds of billions of dollars are the Parties leaders and will never be brought to justice. The thought of holding the people in charge responsible is unthinkable to most Americans because it would be putting their Party leaders in prison. How the American voter has come to tolerate the level of in your face rampant lawlessness is a testament to the skill of the media consultants employed by both Parties.

If you vote for a third Party your throwing your vote away.

If you vote for the same Party your throwing America away.

Barry Payne, Titular Despot Emeritus

Excellent job of calling the kettle black. Keep it up, we're listing.

Could it be that these malcontents are just pawns (and we know they are) being used (as malcontents are the easiest to be manipulated into any type of activity that fits a rebellious agenda) to create a 'crisis'. The Obama Admin and liberals, knowing their hand has been played and exposed, are realizing that the people (even many who were easily duped the first time around in '08) are now seeing what the real "Change" was that they wanted to bring and they know they can't win in an election even with the media and ACORN's (or whatever name they're going by this time around) help. They are certainly not above creating a crisis and are willing to create one that would 'require' them to call for a 'military state of emergency' and suspend or even cancel the elections! He and they are certainly not beyond this as is evidenced by all they have done in the past 3 years (as the ends justify the means in every case when it comes to their agenda and ideology and we've seen that in every decision and deception that's been put forward). Thanks and God bless in Christ!

Communism is such an ugly, UGLY thing!

Seems to me Obama just spoke out for the trickle down effect,even though he did not mean it that way, money spent creates money to make more stuff to sell which creates more jobs to make the stuff to sell. dang vicious circle...

Your vitriolic messages have escalated to the edgy, frenzied tones of those who attempt to promote false analogies. The Tea Party is made up of who are about to be has beens; the Occupy movement is made up of those who will inherit the mess. Those who cannot see this have their heads in the sand.

Turn the fire hoses on them.

Please think and act with intelligence. Compete and quit complaining . The occupiers are like a basketball team that complains about the referees' missed calls, but not acknowledging that their 25 missed free throws contributed to their 5 point loss! Quit bitching. I am happy to be an American. The occupiers are a bunch of woosees. Go picket Chuck Shumer, Barney Frank and Dick Durbin, and find Chris Dodd's house on which he received a preferential mortgage rate. There you can camp out. I hear it's got plenty of room.

That this movement has gained any traction is itself very troubling.

One of my elder friends heard FDR say,

"Some of my best friends are communists."

See http://www.jrcministries.org/religion-a-politics/64-communism.html

Nothing to see here.Move along!

OWS:bunch of tantrum taking kindergarten punks.

Say what you want, but the Occupy movement has gathered more attention and is steamrolling faster than the Tea Party movement ever did. Just goes to show how far left the country has shifted. I've said it before and I say it again, we've passed the tipping point. Don't be surprised to see "BHO" rally the troops and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat once again. The Republican nominee, regardless of who it is, will feel like Hillary did in '08... WTF happened!

You're preaching to the choir.

The Establishment Republican complex is playing reality TV with our future by giving each other black eyes WHICH IF under normal circumstances had occurred 16-20 years ago would have prevented the horse's ass cadre of Republican candidates who are bored with nothing better to do than RUN FOR PRESIDENT, and most inportanly would have given us a back bench of small government conservatives that we the tea party have begun to build.

Instead, an entire generation of country club Republicans have allowed the whining liberals into our camp and here we are. Time for new definitions - if it acts like a Liberal, leftist, spend other people's money, cut-out then it is NOT a freedom loving, small government, run to the gun fire, Conservative. Shut UP - I don't want to hear Republican leadership any more - I am not listening - I am waiting for Action! Consistent, PRINCIPLED ACTION!

Enough is Enough.

Stop quoting your liberal mealy mouthed "twice-a-day-right-The-other-23-hour-and-58-minutes-WRONG" Republican establishment mouthpieces that got us here in the first place.

As always, Mr. Alexander, a great article. As for the celebrities and major sports figures, when they start opening their mouths, I turn the channel. I found out a long time ago, they can't speak coherently or with any sense unless the words are from a script, written by someone else. I don't go to their movies or their games. Money is hard to come by these days and I have no intention of giving wealthy celebrities and sports figures my hard-earned money, so they can turn around and use it to tell me how to live my life.

As a military retiree, and social security recipient (reduced)I still am paying taxes to support the 50% that want to have all the benefits without the obligation to work or serve. America is in it's final death throws and those that are protesting will end up eating each other to survive.

Unfortunately I'm afraid the erosion has gone too far along. I think the majority of Americans are too stupid to be in a Democracy, and the Dems know it. In fact they are counting on it. I do not have a warm and fuzzy feeling about our future. Even my own daughter voted for the lying socialist.

Haven't heard someone mention that the "Occupy" movement may be the beginning of a "Hugo Chavez" type takeover of the country...

You are, as usual right on. I love you guys!

I wonder what Sam Webb does for a living, or is he simply supported by donations to "the party" the way union leaders are paid.

OWS is not as far off the truth as we might like to believe.

Unfortunately today, Wall Street is not about "investing," it's about "trading."

Today, Wall Street firms get very fat profits while the investors lose. The SEC mandates that my account manager gets 1% of my FUND every year, even when it's losing money. That's blatantly unfair. So is the fact that a true individual American "investor" cannot compete with computerized trading and account churning for kick-backs in the financial institutions.

Today, American businesses show increasing profits, but their profits are not re-invested in American jobs. William Jefferson Clinton gave my employer a tax BREAK for off-shoring my R&D job to a communist nation. I'm a well-educated high-tech R&D professional, not "generic" unskilled labor.

So there's a lot to be mad about. To some degree, the OWS people have correctly selected ONE of the right targets, albeit unknowingly. Let's not just put on our blinders and paint with too broad a brush. That's often what we accuse the other side of -- let's be better than that.

A lot of inflammatory rhetoric on both sides here. While Mark is right on in his assessments (I have not seen him wrong yet!), the growing angst in society is based on something. And this is angst that is being expressed from both sides of the political spectrum (TeaParty and OWS crowd). Generally, the poor and middle class ARE worse off than in the past and the rich ARE better off. Why? A lot of people want to blame the politicians (see http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2011/11/02/prosperity-regression/blame_reagan-jpg/ for an interesting graphic). I don't endorse positions, I just want look at facts. Why is this trend extant? IS someone to blame? but I wonder if something else is at play here.

The time is now. Each of us must help awaken as many of our family, friends, and acquaintances as we can. Keep aware of the bills in congress and express your opinions to those who represent you. Increase the circulation of the Patriot Post. Buy and distribute their booklets, Essential Liberty and The Tea Party Primer. Fan the dying embers to start the small brushfires of liberty everywhere you go. Educate yourself to fight against Socialism, NWO, central bureaucracies, the Muslim Brotherhood, forced depopulation, cronyism, suicidal immigration, deficit spending, over regulation and the police state, the FED, judicial despotism, and the erosion of the separation of powers and the Bill of Rights.

Do we see the elements of Obama's "Brown Shirts" being born?

I cannot help but think that a very large percentage of (normal) Americans feel that the Occupy _______(Fill in the Blank) is so assinine that when it it mentioned on the news they want to vomit.

Right on!

Looks like Barry's time as a community organizer has served him well!

It looks like we are in the process of going back to the Dark Ages! Some of the masses are myopic.

It is remarkable, that these masses of people do not know (or want to know) history.

Every Socialist nation on Earth has failed by making ALL except the government poor! The newest example is Cuba. The conditions in Cuba are atrocious All the houses and the entire infrastructure are decaying. Health care is free… Except that the doctors don’t have medicines, or equipment to provide it! The once great university of Havana is in shambles. When you see the toilets without flushing water and no toilet paper you will know how great Socialism is!

In the United States anybody can prosper all it takes is awareness and knowledge to succeed! There are hundreds of examples of individuals who started small (very small) and created multi-million enterprises! Thus, creating thousands of high paying jobs; the opportunity is there… All it takes is a frame-of-mind to succeed. We live in the greatest nation on Earth let’s use our luck!

After several years of reading and enjoying the many truths that have been expounded upon by the 'Patriot Post',I cannot help but join and contribute to finance 'the cause'. Please accept my sincere thanks for your willingness to stand up for our freedom. (SALUTE)...Len Grummell USAF (ret)

Do we see the elements of Obama's "Brown Shirts" being born?

Advise all to make preparations for severe societal disruption in 2012. Some of the groups behind the worst among them are actively preparing their adherents to give their lives for "the cause" next year, with major push to launch on May Day (how appropriate). They want to provoke a whole series of "Kent State" type incidents which they hope will serve as a catalyst enabling them to provoke an actual violent revolution. And they've already convinced some, who are prepared to take a bullet upon being so instructed. This information comes straight from good people who have penetrated some of their miscreant organizations. Acquistion of emergency supplies ahead of time, as well as the ability to defend yourselves and your families, is highly recommended.

This should be no surprise to anyone. This is the work of community organizers. We have the Community Organizer in Chief in the White House.....

The fight is always going to be there. It's really important to educate our children and our grandchildren. Be grateful when they understand, patient when they don't.

I believe in this country and I believe that although some of our countrymen (and women) are falling prey to some nicely packaged fruitcake, there are still a lot of us who see things as they really are.

Alas the fruits of our misdirected labors return to us. We work our fannies off to make a good life and raise our children to want more than we had. Laudable! But now we suffer the result. Our children grew up expecting more and more. They are entitled to it - just ask them. We taught them that! They don't have to work for something, just want it.

I had never heard of wealth redistribution of wealth until our Failure in Chief said it during the Joe the Plumber days. I did a double take and thought it was a joke then almost fell out of my recliner that I worked and paid for. WHAT GIVES HIM THE RIGHT!!!!!!! it is out and out thievery!

The liquidation of the assets of the 1% that you mention that would leave all with equal amounts of 'stuff' or wealth would, after a new election returns the U S to a free market system take just a very short while till the same people who work long hours, save, invest, take risks, lose when they fail, and overcome failure today would have that same high percentage of the nation's wealth again.

How many of the Occupiers would add to or even keep their shares of Walmart when they could sell/trade them for drugs/booze?

Those who will not work would squander their share in less than 5 years.

When the Flea Party and their Socialist Zombie Masters have taken thelast dollar from the last working man, where then will they get themonies to operate their entitlement programmes?

Funny thing, Socialism. It works really well until it runs out of other people's money.

Your forum rules will not permit me to express myself in the manner that I would use to explain my feelings about this "Occupy" B.S., therefore I shall just think it and go on with my rat killing.

Amen

I wonder, gentles, what might happen if on, for instance, this Thanksgiving weekend, the %1 along with all those who support liberty, freedom, and who have been appalled at the pedestrian ignorance of the so called Occupiers, suppose the %1 and the %65 busied with working and sustaining our nation chose to opt out of the massive retail Spend-A-Thon - and continued to opt out of the spending spree right through Christmas.

Imagine that the counter protest to these preposterously witless souls – and their equally witless Dear Leader – was a national shrugging off of retail consumption. In lieu of various piles of Black Friday swag, why not treat the OWS mob to what a true Black Friday might look like – from the day after Thanksgiving through at least two days after Christmas? This is not a joke. These lost post adolescent Obamavillians mean to do serious damage to our nation and freedom. Standing around on someone else’s private property is not going to get their attention any more than it will get Obo’s attention.

No need’s to ‘strike’, call in sick, miss work, stop producing. But those who love liberty and can speak and speak loudly – by sitting out the retail season. How soon might Starbucks and other such OWS Friendly firms begin to dim their glowing embrace of this rank socialism.

Thoughts?

The one and only reason that this "occupy" crowd of malcontents has gotten the so called traction is strictly due to The Ministry of Left Wing Propaganda aka ABC,CBS,and most notably the "community organizer's " favorite branch, NBC.One does not need to go any further than that.Let us speak louder in 2012 than we did in 2010.

Regardless what percentage of the 99% are pro socialist, an obvious question;

Why are the anti-socialist pro-republic percentage consenting to and participating in the same socialist democracy form of government as the socialists?

Assuming ", ... Governments are instituted among Men, ... from the consent of the governed."

Was not socialism and democracy both unconstitutional in the Republics and their republican forms of government?

The eventual conclusion of democracies is when the majority have a vested interest in the use of government power for robbing Peter to pay Paul and vote according to those socialist lines. Resulting in a totalitarian all powerful government. And the anti-socialists cannot complain as they consented to and participated in such form of government and must accept the consequences.

Might this be how the 1% control the 99%?

"If one understands that Socialism is not a “share the wealth” program but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super rich men promoting Socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism, or more accurately Socialism, is not a movement of the down-trodden masses but of the economic elite." – Gary Allen

"Communism: AN INTERNATIONAL,

CONSPIRATORIAL DRIVE FOR POWER ON THE PART OF MEN IN HIGH

PLACES WILLING TO USE ANY MEANS TO BRING ABOUT THEIR DESIRED

AIM-GLOBAL CONQUEST."---Gary Allen, "None Dare Call it Conspiracy"---

"Democracy is indispensable to Socialism." – V. I. Lenin

"Socialism leads to Communism." – Karl Marx

Gives clarity to the idea of "useful idiots" does it not? They are the entire 99% that are consenting to and participating in the current "reconstructed" federal so-called national socialist democracy form of government.,

Time for wake the hell up truth, perhaps?

Mike

www.pacinlaw.org

We have a group of people that are completely lost.......they have no concept of what going to work every day and taking care of yourself and your family means...........they want someone else to to this for them!

Who is to blame? Certainly the way they were brought up, which primarily puts the guilt at the feet of the parents.........but I see this whole thing as a result of an education system without a spine, an entertainments system that promotes exactly the opposite of truth, and a government that is supposed to be by the people and for the people which is, in fact, a group of self absorbed intellectuals out to get as much as they can from the system-----exactly like those people camping out on Wall St

I'm glad you stuck to the 35% number--the 55% that some conservatives use is problematic, not least because a lot of the people who are net gainers in income tax are not net gainers overall. Even those who pay no income tax and receive benefits from the government don't pay 0 in taxes. When one includes all the other taxes and surcharges and tariffs the government adds to everything anyone buys, only those with no income at all besides what they get from the government are really parasites, and many of those are not permanent. I personally know several people who have been out of work for more than three years, some on unemployment, some on welfare, some living off their families or churches--none of these are leftist and like their situations. Many are ashamed that I know about it. Lots of horrible things have happened to decent people thanks to the ruinous ideals of romanticism and its current 'progressive' incarnation. 35% is probably too high a number as well; many of those who are truly dependent on the government are quite wealthy. They depend on the government to give their lives meaning, as well as handing out fat paychecks. Red meat is fine, but it's never a good idea to alienate allies by heaping scorn on them, especially when they're already ashamed of their situations.

It must always be remembered that it is the left that has dismantled the old safety net in favor of their 'new' and inferior version. Most importantly we must all remember that Rush Limbaugh is wrong about one thing: Socialism does work every time it's tried. It does just what it's supposed to: enrich the 'revolutionary vanguard.' Just ask John Corzine.

The socialist political is brutal and dangerous. No where has that movement helped but millions of people

have been killed by the leaders.

They are battering in Oakland today. If they meet no resistance it will get worse.

I must add.............We must be diligent in our defense of the truth that our great nation was built upon..........but first we need to get on our knees............ask God for the help knows no bounds, for without His help...........we are lost!

Presidents Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and now Obama continue to support United Nations Agenda21 - which in its depth and breadth of attack on the individual sovereignty of US Citizens, is nothing less than an Anti-Human Initiative. These New Age Socialistic 'occupation forces' are playing their part in executing UN Agenda21. The major attack point on America is through the adoption of unionized tactics used to promote and adhere to the “Consensus” of the State. However, "The State" now being promoted is the United Nations, pretty much a 'socialist state', and NOT, The United States of America via the traditional Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.

Most of these people, these occupyers, are what Lenin called “Useful Idiots” in they do not try to identify if actions and votes they make are within the framework of the United States Constitution. For political and financial reasons(ie easier to live off entitlements than actually provide value with honest work), these "Useful Idiots" are ready willing and able to sign away the freedoms that generations have died to preserve!

Agenda21 is an octopus with hundreds millions of tentacles squeezing the very life from the time tested value of adhereing to the traditional United States Constitution, which defined our system of government based on God-given unalienable rights.

Just Google 'Agenda 21 for Dummies' for starters and make your own determination ... And for the Patriot Post ... What do you think about UN Agenda 21 Mark????

I have grown very weary of the continued misstatement that those who pay no taxes are the ones wanting redistribution of wealth and that they have no stake (and thus should have no say) in how the government is run. Throughout my adult life I have never made more than 35k. For most of it I have made 15k or less. As such there have been very few years that I have had to pay income tax, and when I did it was covered by what they withheld. So I have never 'suffered the pain' of having to write a check to the IRS. This does not mean that I have no stake in our government or how it runs the country. I don't want anyone taxed so that I can have more. What people have earned they should keep. We need Constitutional government not the socialistic or even communistic government that the left keeps ramming down our throats. If we had that (Constitutional government) then those who have could (and I believe would) of their own accord help those who are in need. It is not philanthropy when the government picks your pocket to 'help' someone else. It is wrong, and I am tired of being blamed for being one of those who wants more government handouts and more taxing of the rich to pay for it. I do not, and I believe that there are a lot more Americans in my situation that believe as I do.

Mark,

I hate to take exception to you but when you say. "There is still much to be done, however, and the defeat of Barack Obama and his socialist hordes next November is NOT preordained."

The only thing that keeps me going and sane is that I have a sovereign GOD who governs this universe.

Ephesians 1:11

"In Him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of Him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of His will." NIV

That doesn't mean that I have NO RESPONSIBILITY but it does mean that I can rest in a sovereign God no matter what happens.

The supporters I have talked to are worried about jobs going overseas, having a degree and not being able to find a job and being or almost being homeless because of home foreclosures and they blame wall street greed for it. Does not sound like leaches to me.

I agree about who these people are that are protesting. But, the facts are the facts....1% has so much money they don't know what to do with it and the middle class is going down in this country. If we continue at the rate we're going we'll have a 3rd. world country. If you earn more We should have a more progressive tax going upwards on those earning 250,000 and up. We need to close up loopholes and subsidies for large wealthy corporations and we need to stop war mongering in other countries. We need to bring manufacturing back to this country making clean and high quality. Germany and Austria do great. They make great quality cars. We need to stop producing tons of garbage from all of this technology that breaks down withing 6mo-1 yr. Maybe we go back to the 50's where only one person per family works but, makes a decent salary. We used to have repair people owning their own business and Drs make housecalls and our schoools were good. This economy has been perverted with too big to fail corporations and businesses and the small business owner if they're lucky gets to eat their lunch otherwise, they out of business. Please stop talking like everything the republicans are doing are good. We need to worry about the middle classand people who live in a community owning a business in a community. Everyone gambling on the stock market and not producing anything is killing the middleclass. It's unfortunate that themiddle class doesn't demonstrate cause they're the ones who should be...they have the most to lose. Stop acting like this is communisim(sp?) The weathy used to pay more in taxes and took care of the communities they lived in. There's very little of that anymore. We have corporate raiders who come in to company's squeeze the money and jobs out of them and leave. Nothings good about the republican economic ideas. They're not fair...often the rich have just been lucky and they should thank their lucky stars and think about training their employees like they used to do instead of waiting for government to do it. Many rich suck of the teat of government too it's not just the poor and welfare folks.

I say that Emperor Obama should be charged with TREASON against the Constitution of the United States.

No representation without taxation!

When a man can vome into a Wall Street firm, make a very bad 'bet the house' call, blow up the company, amd then walk awat with a multi-million dollar check as severance pay, I don't need a bunch of protesters to tell me that there is something relly rotten about Wall Street.

If my Father, who left the Soviet Union in 1921 and was in the 1917 revolution were around today, he would comment that this reminds him of the Red hordes in 1917 Russia. God help us.They had weapons but these idiots don't but some may. It will get violent in the future and a military coup to restore order and the Constitution may be required. Lock and Load. I am prepared if necessary.

Steve

Colorado

The occupy wall street protesters are part of the 47% of the US population who do not pay any federal taxes and want to leach off hard working Americans who do pay taxes. Occupy Wall Street are by large people who want to destroy our economic system and will use mob violence to accomplish their goals.

The 99% movement is not going anywhere but up and out, and the fun you are poking at the fringe element within the ranks of the Occupiers is going to be short-lived. The truth is that Wall Street greed created a great deal of the mess we are experiencing, and blaming Obama, Fannie or Freddie is just an exercise in self-delusion. Our financial crisis was a creation of the "wealth industry," and what is most remarkable is that the Occupiers are non-violent. It is a testament to the social fabric of our country that they are just protesting. But their ranks are growing, and for good reason. Watching the middle class evaporate has a lot of people who are very much part of the mainstream very worried about the direction of our country. This reminds me of the anti-Vietnam War movement. In its infancy, it was made up of kids and the fringe left. By the end of the war, it had become mainstream. If you still have a job and health insurance, you may consider yourself outside the 99%. But you are just a pink slip away from being a part of the movement. And if it has not happened to you, it will happen to someone you know. If you are buying into the fantasy that the Koch Brothers and their cronies are promoting, that continuing to lower taxes is going to solve any problems, while our class sizes are mushrooming, our police forces are shrinking, our manufacturing jobs are vanishing and corporate profits and retained earnings are growing, you might be interested in purchasing a bridge in Brooklyn...

There has been and always will be those who demand something for nothing. The percentages appear to increase in direct proportion to leaders inclined to more government is better, This era of American socialist began when teh democrats/socialists and FDR created the welfare state. That has been about eighty years of people living on the government tit. In order to remove them will result in the tit being pulled off with the one sucking on lt. Unlike the lizard that grows a new tail. the tit will not grow back.

Stop the spending NOW.

It is time to get out the fire hoses, and wash away this ignorant scum. Why isn't anything being done about it to get them out of there permanently?

Occupy What Street?

Watching the “Occupy Wall Street” crowd and their serious concern with the trampling of civil rights of innocent people, the influence of lobbyists, the “greed” of investments firms and banks, the horrors of capitalism and the suffering poor makes me think if they want make a difference in all of the areas mentioned above, maybe they should occupy an abortion clinic.

The unborn are as innocent as anything created on earth. None are poorer than the unborn who have few who defend them. They are entirely at the mercy of a society that promotes the culture of death and a government and President who trumpet the cause of death for unborn children.

The worst capitalistic profit center one could imagine would be to make money by killing the unborn, which happens every day at Planned Parenthood and we accept it like Nazi Germany accepted neighboring Concentration Camps.

And for the OWS crowd who want hope and a real future, children are the one true renewable resource.

To really make a difference maybe the OWS crowd should be OAC, or Occupy A Church and get on their knees and pray.

Clark Sowers

Belle Fourche SD

605-210-0274

I am trying to push for legislation prohibiting those from voting who pay no taxes. Would end the conflict of interest from those who contribute nothing and whine about it.

Read the Old Testament, especially 1st and 2nd Kings, 1st and 2nd Chronicles, the Major Prophets, the Minor Prophets,and Proverbs, and it will become obvious that those same kinds of people have been around for at least 1,000 years BC.

It's all about NAFTA and Jobs.Thats what the protest are about.Unfair taxing.Fraud wast and abuse of power and position in all branches of government. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will eat for his lifetime.

The OWS crowd reminds me of the people viewing an autostereogram who “don’t get it.” As with an autostereogram, seeing the picture is all about focus. A person who is focused on hating the rich – class envy – is not going to get the picture. To them, "crony capitalism" is an indistinct blur – they can't see the lawmakers, the regulators, the deal-makers – i.e., those who pick winners and losers – the politicians in the picture.

With all these anti-American groups, including the POTUS, supporting the flea-baggers, Americans with any common sense can see that if the direction of this country is not changed, and changed fast, we will lose the United States as we've come to know it; the United States, which so many have fought for and have given the ultimate sacrifice to keep the freedoms, liberties and all that is guaranteed by our Constitution, will be lost forever.

Itss not Wall Street it's the Congress Idiot.

I always feel bad when I hear about the 50% who don't pay any taxes. I did for years and I paid in to Soc. Sec. and am now collecting $830/mth. I don't earn enough to pay taxes, but I do pay property and sales tax. I am a Tea Party person, not a flea party drone. I am absolutely in favor of everybody being able to keep and enjoy whatever they earn without BO taking it and giving it to some one who hasn't earned it.

Just remember who started the Communist movement in the US. Franklin Delano Roosevelt started the Federal Income Contribution Act (Social Security)and that is really working. LOL

Let's stop the Socialism movement now. At some point everyone is going to ask why are we working and that will lead to the demise of Socialism in the US.

Total colapse of everything we know!!

Until we decide to stop rewarding ignorance & laziness Socialism in the US will grow.

99% is really the 35%! Rubbish... these people are no more "useful idiots" than the rest of us.

There are many factors secretly at work over the last 3 decades, robbing from the majority of the poor and middle class to give to the rich.

Laws and treaties have been enacted that benefit the richest of America's wealthiest persons and their corporations.

Taxes and the brackets have dropped from almost 90% back in the 1950's to less than 35% now for the upper 5%.

Tax give backs and incentives to off shore many jobs to foreign countries while issuing H1B1 visas to skilled foreign labor to work here while allowing the southern border of America to be a sheave for unrestrained illegal immigration of unskilled labor to pour across, displacing domestic citizens of jobs in a variety of American industries, while simultaneously importing H1B1 skilled labor. Amounting to a one two punch to America's labor force....

Let me not belabor the fact that our own government has a 70% share in the Stock Market, amounting to the "bailout" being our government bailing its own ass out while shafting its own citizens.

Can I mention all the government owned offshore bank accounts? Or the secret grain future deals at the mercantile grain markets in Chicago, each and every time congress was about to pass a grain deal to sell China or the USSR 200 or 250 metric tons of grain?

I could keep going on... but why? I predict OWS is only the beginning, once the entire truth comes out as to how much money so few have made over the last 3 decades at the expense of the many... you know the 99% you media types call "useful idiots"... you know, people like me:) There will be no place to hide.

This clueless, choreographed losers' tantrum has morphed into an exercise in collective panhandling. Plaintiff solicitations have apparently been successful in acquiring over half a million dollars in donations. How willing would this gaggle be to redistribute those undeserved gains to the 90% of the world's population that is more “disadvantaged” than they?

The nature of the encroachment upon American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer; it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the pensioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity and frugality become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, luxury, foppery, selfishness, meanness, and downright venality swallow up the whole of society.

John Adams

The nature of the encroachment upon American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer; it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the pensioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity and frugality become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, luxury, foppery, selfishness, meanness, and downright venality swallow up the whole of society.

That property rights are as sacred and inviolable as the laws of God is exactly true: they are both human conventions which certain groups would like to see as inviolable because it puts them in a superior position relative to the rest of society. And the laws of God and property are not inviolable; they are broken every day in gross and subtle ways, often most egregiously by their loudest proponents.

I like how Christianity has now been identified as absolutely aligned with corporatism, absolute private ownership, and maintaining the privileges of the upper classes. Have any of these people not read the book of Acts? The church community sold their goods and shared everything in common, from each according to his ability and to each according to his need (obviously not in so many words, but the gist of the description is clearly there). Ananias and Sapphira were supposedly struck dead by God for keeping private property separate from the rest of the church and then dissembling about it when confronted. Paul railed against different treatment of wealthy believers from poor or enslaved believers. I am not a Christian, but I used to be, and as much as I disagree with the core tenets of Christianity, I won't have revisionists claiming the exact opposite of what much of the Bible loudly and obviously preached to convince the majority of believers that their faith demands they never question their economic superiors.

I marvel that Obama ecourages them to "STICK IT TO THE MAN!", when he IS The Man. In fact, he is fighting hard to remain The Man.

Does anyone remember that early scene in "Soylent Green", where the garbage trucks with front loaders remove a crowd of demonstrators? Makes one go, hhhhmmmm......... soy-lent green, soy-lent green, soy-lent green... One more point: Are these protesters so dense that, after complaining about having to pay their student loans, it hasn't occurred to them that they shouldn't have to go into debt just to get a BA degree? Where's the protest against Big Ed?

That said, there are those on the left who take the opportunity to spout mindlessly general anti-capitalist rhetoric without providing a detailed alternative system to match the extent of the system that they are intending to abolish altogether. There are also among the group a number of of extreme libertarians who believe privatization of everything and a return to true laissez-faire capitalism will solve everything. Neither approach will work, and I doubt either group has devoted sufficient thought towards acknowledging that possibility, or how their views might be improved.

The important issue is that there must be discussion. Much of the Occupy Movement is devoted to bringing people's attention to the amount of corruption in this country, and establishing something resembling a dialogue to motivate voters to establish a viable plan for repairing the situation. That is why I support them. I'm no unemployed hippie (technically, I am unemployed at the moment by choice, in order to take care of my baby daughter while finishing school while my wife works; it was the best solution for us in the short term), and the future for me and my family post-graduation looks relatively promising as is, but I have grave concerns about the overall stability of the system and the kind of world it will lead to.

We have an absolute right to demonstrate publicly and assemble to petition the government for redress of grievances, enshrined in the first amendment to the Constitution many of you claim to regard as sacrosanct. You can either be constructive and join in the debate, pointing out our specific errors (we will try to do the same for you, for undoubtedly we all err), or you can congregate in your corner of the political spectrum feeling smug in your superiority because you lump everyone you disagree with together and call them dirty names. Which better befits your dignity as citizens? We are also citizens; treating us as enemies rather than opposition will get us nowhere, and we will try to remind ourselves of this fact as well.

@ Paulrod: many within the movement see the same irony in Obama as you do. As far as protesting "Big Ed" for college loans, some do see it as a structural problem involving the exorbitant cost of education, much of which is superfluous or unmarketable. However, that itself is something of a separate issue, which needs to be addressed soon. If you have ideas, please contribute them.

The main concern currently is the way in which existing financial institutions have used lobbying power to break down regulations such as Glass-Steagall, opening a path to increased market volatility and liability by taxpayers. The speculation taking place only made sense in a world in which value would only ever increase, without hiccups, and many loans were issued that ought not to have been. However much many ordinary people made foolish decisions at the time, nearly everyone was told it was a good idea under the new regime of permanent economic expansion, and few were educated enough to seriously question it.

The scale of leveraging in the derivatives markets, as well as elaborate concealment of threads of ownership and actual degrees of risk made what would have been a significant but manageable real estate crash into a global financing crisis. Many are rightfully upset that CEO's who ought to have been held to account for their sloppy policies by suffering the loss of revenue that their companies actually incurred, were paid in full, and quite lavishly, using money essentially extorted from the U.S. treasury. That money was not lent out to stem the credit crunch to small businesses, which was the justification of sending the money to the banks in the first place. Instead, additional consolidation of financial institutions took place, with larger banks using federal funds to gobble up smaller businesses, and the underlying risk mitigation measures were not repaired, so we are still vulnerable.

These are truly lost souls. One can only pray we can survive another year until we have a chance to remove the top layer of trash from our enviorment.

The Communist Manifesto should be required reading. They predicted what is now happening.

"Give us your children for three

generations, and we will HAVE them."

Our school system has done it's job well.

The shanty towns of the Great Depression were called "Hoovervilles". Can we call today's tent cities "Obamatowns"?

I heard when I was young, which has been some time ago, if all the wealth were collected from everyone in America and redistributed evenly among all citizens and we remained in the same free enterprise system and government. Within 20 years those who were rich before that happened and those who were poor would be in exactly the same position with very little (less then 5%) difference.

Furthermore, I believe that is undoubtably correct. Because, give away programs like welfare and others, although well intended, have demonstrated they do not work. The Indian tribes are an excellent example. Therefore, those who advocate wealth redistribution must also necessarily advocate the overthrow of free enterprise (capitalism). And in order to do that our United States Constitution must be done away with.

Many including myself made this point prior to the 2008 election. No one was willing to listen. But, once again it is proving to be true. When obama declared to Joe the plumber sharing the wealth was a good thing. Three hundred million lights should have come on in America. And we should have awakened but they didn’t. Only now are the majority of American’s waking up to what obama proposes for our nation and it “ain’t” good. Those patriots who have awakened may not however be enough to wake up the blind followers who have become dependent on government hand outs.

Within the next several years this nation shall go through a transformation, maybe not the one obama promised, but a transformation non-the-less. We are at a cross roads. If obama is reelected he will without a doubt within the next term attempt to make good on his fundamental transformation of America. What he forgot to mention however is its into a new world order. The proposed new world order includes a centralized government.

What is the most common occurrence in large government? We should all realize it is waste and corruption. All large governments are plagued by both. The larger the government the more waste and corruption. Our own government is an existing example of that. If we have a “one world government” can you imagine how much of both will take place. Who among us thinks that won’t happen. In a new world order (government) that will not be the biggest problem it presents to the American people however, the biggest problem will be that we no longer have a free country or a constitution as we do now.

The OWS gang has many official sponsors. Many of whom are subversive organizations including but not limited too the communist party and the nazi party of course there are well over a dozen other groups but you get the point. Even Iran supports the OWS movement. Now lets consider something. We know they would kill every American if they could (and their not alone in the middle east) so if the OWS was good for the Republic do you think they would be supporting it? Just who among us is that stupid? I rest my case.

REVOLUTION is the only answer, the Declaration of Independence & abuse of the Constitution authorize it!

Somebody please help me understand how all the

destruction, clean-up costs, business losses, not

to mention the small shops which became the brunt

of the demonstrators "rage?". This was nothing

more than anarchy of the few who wanted something

for nothing. It "aint gonna happen suckka".

Law enforcement needs to enforce the law and move these people out of there. If the police won't enforce the law, the American people will do it for them.

Hey Terry: The OWS crowd is "never will be's'. They get stupid, idiotic, unmarketable college degrees from left wing socialist universities. Then they can't find jobs with those worthless degrees, then demand socialism. Pathetic. Get a marketable skill and get off your OWS butt and get to work. The world doesn't owe you a living and you and those people look really pitiful expecting such. And pulling the age comment really shows how little your argument has in the way of serious content. Having a serious discussion with the OWS mind numbed robots is like dueling with an unarmed man. I've tried. To no avail.

Not that OWS needs more notorious supporters, Planned Parenthood is now on board with them.

As I am celebrating my 40th year as a U.S. Citizen, who came from the Near East, I am dismayed by the fact that ANY PERSON WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS COUNTRY did not have success in building a better future for themselves and their family.

If I can come from half way around the world and start 1t 27; and make it so that our three children go through private schools and graduate from college to become successful professionals, I GAVE NO PITY ON ANY AMERICAN who did not make it.

He/she just DID NOT WANT TO!

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I volunteered to go to Southeast Asia to fight against this garbage only to see it come here. What the hell has happened to my country? Where is the RULE OF LAW? I believe my military service was in vain.

Spot on! The Useful Idiots will overthrow the current system and then they become Useless Eaters. Read your history book. The Bolshevik Revolution resulted in the deaths of millions of people because the "State" knows how to redistribute resources equitably. It's coming here. Get ready. The 6 Gs. God, Gold, Guns, Grub, Ground, and Gas. Got it? Get it!

@1 of the 99,

When the system collapses, you will have nothing and you will be worth nothing to the 1%. What part of Useful Idiot do you not understand? What part of Useless Eater do you not understand? That's YOU! If you show up at MY door, you will be tomorrow's stew (the secret's in the sauce). Any part of THAT you do not understand?

I understand that in order for a big lie to have any effect it must be supported with some truth. So the Socialist-in-Chief tells his lies about stealing from the investors, entrepreneurs and workers and giving to the poor. The truth in one of his latest lies is, “These days, a lot of folks doing the right thing are not rewarded. A lot of folks who are not doing the right thing are rewarded." The folks doing the right thing are the investors, entrepreneurs and workers who know the pride of hard work and enjoy the fruits of their labor, their reward. The folks not doing the right thing are the sorry bunch polluting the cities as “Occupiers” (which by the way, is a good moniker for them as they are doing nothing but occupying, i.e. taking up space) who want to reap the fruits of everyone else’s labor, or as they see it, their reward, their “ENTITLEMENT”. Twisted. So twisted in fact that I cannot understand how they arrived at their conclusion.

I started to say that if any two of them got together and tried really hard they might come up with a whole brain cell to work with. But, then I realized that there are thousands of them all in one place and still haven’t found a whole brain cell to work with. Wait a minute, I over looked the key word in my thought…WORK!

"[T]he wealthiest Americans have made out like bandits. ... It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." - Obama

This quote from the Bandit-in-Chief reminds me of what he said during his 2008 run for tyranny, “I don't know what's next. By the end of the week he'll (John McCain) be accusing me of being a secret communist because I shared my toys in kindergarten. I shared my peanut butter and jelly sandwich.” I said then that his (Obama) sharing his toys and peanut butter and jelly sandwich was a good thing and made him a philanthropist. However, since he wants to take our toys and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and share them with others, makes him not only a communist, but a bully and a bandit.

Convet,

Our military service wasn’t in vain. We learned valuable lessons over their which we now need to teach to those who will listen. Those who won’t listen are lost anyway.

US Army 11B10

1st ID & 25th ID RVN 69/70

As always, Mark's perception and eloquence in writting is spot on, and I can add nothing but I AGREE!

To: Robert E8 USN Ret

I'm replying to your reply to me in yesterday's Patriot Post. I didn't see your comments until this morning.

You could easily consider my comments specious if you don't understand them. That is what I suspect since you seemed to be having trouble reiterating them and/or summarizing them in your effort to make a point.

Yes, I agree with you that unions are a problem, whether they are private sector or public sector. They are a means of wage inflation that serves as an unnatural, disruptive force in the economy.

In general, I don't think people have inherent animosity to government employees. They just see the very obvious effects of government spending on high government salaries and on tremendously huge expenditures on government-created entitlement programs, which allow generations upon generations of people to exist without putting any value into society. People complain about government employees because over the 200+ years of our existence, government has grown from a small, affordable entity with discreet powers and duties, to an enormous, bloated bureaucracy of arrogant people who want to run everyone's life.

Overall government employment is also a problem in a free market system that is supposed to have a government that is limited in size and scope. The size of government has done noting but increase over my lifetime, and I'm no spring chicken. Do you see government shrinking? Government employment always shows up on the red side of the balance sheet, and this is why I consider it overhead. Any good business owner always seeks to limit his overhead to only what he needs and no more. Compare that to what our government represents in our economy. Get it? Perhaps the axiom should be that if a task can be done within the private sector, it should be done in the private sector. And no government function should ever compete in any way with the private sector.

If you can't understand all this, then I'm sorry that I can't help you any further.

And by the way, I have a nephew in the Marines. We seldom see him, and I don't know what his rank is now, and we never know where he is, it's always a secret. But one thing I do know is that next to other government employees, he is grossly under-paid.

@ Robert Brown:

What lessons did you learn and who needs to listen? I am curious what you mean by this.

Google--- U.S. Concentration camps. Then tell me that "THEY" wern't planning this! I'm just sayin!

maybe we should require proof of employment before allowing or permitting public protests, and proof of tax payment and some type of permanent address before voting.

Why did we ever allow people that do not work or contribute to society, or those who draw public assistance to vote? At one time voting privileges extended only to property owners. This allows that 20%+ to continue to drag down the rest of the economy and society.

Shouldnt you freedom loving "folks" be doing something constructive with your time instead of whining, complaining, slandering and arguing on the internet?

Hamilton; Thank you. Well said, and agreement here. As to military service and what one learns---the value of Trust! Without trust discipline fails. Doubts of leader decisions arise. Commands are not immediately acted on. All of which defeats the mission. That is what this miscreant in the White House is sowing--divide and conquer, by creating mistrust by one segment against another of our society. This treatise by Mr. Alexander admirably explicates the result of that effort, and what we, as patriotic citizens of this Republic, must combat. We shall, I am certain. That is what I learned in the military service of this Nation. Commencing with WWII, then Korea, then RVN. The military did not lose those engagements. The civilians governing the military have that responsibility. We are in a position of no trust--of our leaders. That is what must change if we are to survive as a free Republic.

The "Occupy" movement is the best benefactor of conservatism imaginable. I remember the war protests of the 60's; they doomed democrat candidates -- including incumbent LBJ, Hubert Humphrey, and George McGovern. Those who vote find this kind of protest repugnant.

Unfortunately for the US (and conservatism), the Republican Party nominated a liberal for President in 1968. And unfortunately, it looks like they are preparing to do it again in 2012.

This has been the communist montra for years now. Everyone equal. Poverty for everyone except the ruling elite.

You have a predetermined low estimate of the one candidate that provides what we are looking for and I urge you to reconsider.

Try to grade your potential Republican nominee on the basis of someone who has these qualifiers;

Constitutional Liberty platform

Integrity

Logic

Experience

Knowledge

Trustworthy

Good reputation

He has sound logical answers to support his position on those matters that some refer to as "wild" or foolish.

That man is Ron Paul.

Lets start a stealth campaign among those conservative editors in the media who can recognize the value of selecting someone who has your confidence to lead in those critical matters that will arise 4 to 5 years from now and are not even on the "radar" today.

So what am I? My salary places me at the poverty level so I am not the 1% but...I don't identify with anything these spoiled brats are saying. They certainly DO NOT speak for me!

To Robert E8 Usn, Ret

"Miscreant in the White House". I like that description - haven't heard the word "miscreant" in awhile.

Yea, it's an academic exercise to debate whether Obama's deplorable actions as POTUS are intentional subterfuge or simply unfortunate folly due to his innate liberalism, blinding him from being able to see the multi-faceted deleterious results of his policies. I mean, how long are we going to wonder why Obama treats America, a notion born from a womb of liberty, with more government regulations? How long are we going to wonder why he continues to subvert the constitutionally codified balance of power within government, with czar after czar and executive order after executive order? And how long are we going to wonder why Obama addresses our long-term-generated national debt with more government spending?

We Americans can have that debate all we want over why Obama (and so many Democrats, along with him) do what they do, but it's the height of foolishness not to recognize this faulty, dangerous leadership and change it asap, regardless of the answer to that debate.

The early settlers of this country had only themselves to rely and they enjoyed relative freedoms, but had enormous prices to pay for that freedom. If we want those freedoms, we have to be willing to accept the responsibility for own lives. With entitlement such an enormous part of the fabric of our culture, I just don't see us getting through this time. We have to be a society of doers, not a bunch of cry-babys.

The demonstrations these misguided children are participating in remind me of the Viet Cong supporters that threatened our base and homes back in the early 1970s. They had no basis for their actions then and they don't have any now. They were organized and trained by left wing communist sympathizers then and they are again now.

Obama will not have his DOJ arrest the bankers and or Fannie Mae employees who are responsible for this current economic mess. They paid for his election so he cannot prosecute them. As it turns out though now he is using his community organizer skills and his friends against them. Talk about confused and double minded. He threatened people as a community organizer (do it my way or else) and he is trying to do the same thing now. He does not want American to be the wonderful country it is. He can move to Liberia and fix that poor place up.

May our Heavenly Father Bless America

VV

Wow, this is just incredibly off base. Mostly it reads as a canned Conservative attack in favor of wealth and power. Only once do you mention the dissatisfaction with the financial industry, and then only in a quote. You do nothing to address the central concern of the protests. I suppose you think it's fine and dandy that corporations and moneyed interests can pour unlimited cash into political campaigns. I guess you think that is democracy. I don't.

1. Pretty much everyone is dependent on government subsidies. Roads, infrastructure, schools, etc. Not to mention all of the corporate subsidies that dwarf the cost of the social safety net you so obviously hate.

2. This is not Obama's uprising. He's just as culpable as the other politicians. His policies and appointments have been very friendly to the financial industry. His rhetoric has been just that.

3. It is faulty to assume that the protesters are lazy and unwilling to work. Current estimates are that there are 5 unemployed people for each available job. That isn't the fault of these individuals. That is the fault of capital outsourcing labor and getting tax breaks while doing it.

4. You obviously think creating fraudulent financial instruments is the same as creating wealth. It isn't. It creates an illusion of wealth that is pawned off on unsuspecting rubes who trust financial "experts", and inflate market caps beyond anything resembling sanity. The shadow market of CDOs and CDSes setup by major financial institutions was a giant gambling hall. They knowingly created risky securities called CDOs, got S&P to rate them AAA, sold them like hot cakes, got AIG to insure them against losses, and then bet against the whole damn thing with CDSes. No one has been held responsible for the crisis caused by this activity. I don't understand how you can call the protesters lazy and entitled when the crooks who did this to us are the most entitled of them all.

5. You also seem to think that the movement is about taking all of the money away from the rich. It's not. It's about labor getting a fair cut of the pie. It's about a financial system that was allowed to grow out of control, crash the economy, and not receive any punishment. All while working people lost homes, retirements, jobs, and security.

6. It's only called class warfare when the poor fight back.

7. According to the American Express poll, which only includes people with salaries of 6 figures and up, they think that the wealthy should pay higher taxes. http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2011/10/05/the-affluent-support-higher-taxes-on-the-rich/

8. Social Security and Medicare have kept seniors out of poverty even in recessions. I guess you would like to see those programs cut since you demonize FDR's legacy. http://www.nber.org/aginghealth/summer04/w10466.html

I have appreciated The Patriot Post for several years now and yet never contributed.

At this point in my life I truly cannot afford to. But after reading "Alexander on Populist Socialism" I realized I can't afford to not contribute!

It won't be much, but I hope hundreds of others are also motivated to act and give you an unprecedented response for the fund drive. Keep it up and THANK YOU.

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I am stupified! No one...NONE...of the talking TV heads, conservative or liberal pundits...NO BODY has bothered to mention cartoonist Al Capp and his group of S.W.I.N.E. - Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything.

This group was a send-up of the Students for a Democratic Society, a protest group of the late 50's and early 60's. Looking at the members of the "Occupy" organs...it's the same group...just older, and just as disorganized.

As usual, there is no mention of the actual problem. The reason there are protests is due to the system failure. More and more data is coming out showing that giving tax breaks to the top 1% does nothing for job creation, and only lines there pockets with more money. Over the last 30 years, starting with Reaganomics, we have seen a decline in spendible income for the middle class all while the top 1% get more. We need to fix this.

I am stupified! No one...NONE...of the talking TV heads, conservative or liberal pundits...NO BODY has bothered to mention cartoonist Al Capp and his group of S.W.I.N.E. - Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything.

This group was a send-up of the Students for a Democratic Society, a protest group of the late 50's and early 60's. Looking at the members of the "Occupy" organs...it's the same group...just older, and just as disorganized.

What is frustrating is NOT what is going on inside the heads of dirty debauched ne'er-do-wells and malcontents and mindless skull full of mush. It is that we who look on this and hear about it day in and day out do not organize ourselves to throw the bums out.

Let's take up a collection and send the bunch to you-know-where; then they can learn that the democracy they cussed is pretty damn fine.

Well, you have turned black into white and up into down. You must be very proud.

The OWS's core demand is very simple, so simple that to get it exactly wrong takes some doing. This is it: they want justice for the 99% whose wealth was, and continues to be, redistributed to the 1% who crashed the economy and had to be bailed out while getting special treatment from our government. So they do not want wealth redistributed, they are angry because it has been redistributed. This has been very well publicized and is embedded in the group's name. It's hard to miss unless you're trying.

Yes, they seek changes to the tax and other laws to make everyone's income the same. Apparently, to you declaring the gambling income stockbrokers and others are allowed to call capital gains actual income goes against some fundamental pillar of capitalism and therefore qualifies the speaker as a socialist. As someone who seems to hate taxes, you should realize that every form of tax is simply a made-up category into which is lumped -- or excluded -- whatever the law writers declare. To argue about what should and should not be included in an imaginary category does not make you a socialist. It makes you a citizen with an opinion.

Of course -- and lucky for you -- the movement has attracted the inevitable fringe of wackos, professional malcontents and publicity seekers, which gives you a chance to cherry-pick a few of their statements and attribute them to the whole movement. It's dishonest, of course, but apparently extremely useful for you. And, as usual, you slather on a layer of blather about liberty while telling the actual average Americans who read your essays that there exists a special crowd whose income must be treated differently than theirs and that defending that wholly made-up distinction is a sacred duty. What you're really saying is that we are all equal, but some are more equal than others, and that we should all defend to the death the perks bought by those who are more equal than we are. Again, you must be proud.

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Obama is supporting this as a pretext he had his adviser show up and tell the "Occupiers" that they needed to get more militant three days later the violence breaks out in Oakland. If all the "Occupiers" go violent on command as they seem ready to do Obama then can declare martial law and suspend the elections. just look at the makeup of supporters involved none of which is very pro American Ideology just like Obama

The 99%: Official list of Occupy Wall Street’s supporters, sponsors and sympathizers

Communist Party USA

Sources: Communist Party USA, OWS speech, The Daily Caller

American Nazi Party

Sources: Media Matters, American Nazi Party, White Honor, Sunshine State News

Ayatollah Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran

Sources: The Guardian, Tehran Times, CBS News

Barack Obama

Sources: ABC News, CBS News, ForexTV, NBC New York

The government of North Korea

Sources: Korean Central News Agency (North Korean state-controlled news outlet), The Marxist-Leninist, Wall Street Journal, Times of India

Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam

Sources: video statement (starting at 8:28), Black in America, Weasel Zippers, Philadelphia Weekly

Revolutionary Communist Party

Sources: Revolutionary Communist Party, Revolution newspaper, in-person appearance

David Duke

Sources: Talking Points Memo, video statement, davidduke.com

Joe Biden

Sources: Talking Points Memo, video statement, Mother Jones

Hugo Chavez

Sources: Mother Jones, Reuters, Examiner.com

Revolutionary Guards of Iran

Sources: Associated Press, FARS News Agency, UPI

Black Panthers (original)

Sources: in-person appearance, Occupy Oakland, Oakland Tribune

Socialist Party USA

Sources: Socialist Party USA, IndyMedia, The Daily Caller

US Border Guard

Sources: White Reference, www.usborderguard.com, Gateway Pundit, Just Another Day blog

Industrial Workers of the World

Sources: IWW web site, iww.org, in-person appearances

CAIR

Sources: in-person appearance, Washington Post, CAIR, CAIR New York

Nancy Pelosi

Sources: Talking Points Memo, video statement, ABC News, The Weekly Standard

Communist Party of China

Sources: People’s Daily (Communist Party organ), Reuters, chinataiwan.org, The Telegraph

Hezbollah

Sources: almoqawama.org, almoqawama.org (2), almoqawama.org (3), wikipedia

9/11Truth.org

Sources: 911truth.org (1), 911truth.org (2), 911truth.org (3)

International Bolshevik Tendency

Sources: bolshevik.org, Wire Magazine

Anonymous

Sources: Adbusters, The Guardian, video statement

White Revolution

Source: whiterevolution.com

International Socialist Organization

Sources: Socialist Worker, socialistworker.org, in-person appearance

PressTV (Iranian government outlet)

Sources: PressTV, wikipedia

Marxist Student Union

Sources: Marxist Student Union, Big Government, marxiststudentunion.blogspot.com

Freedom Road Socialist Organization

Sources: FightBack News, fightbacknews.org

ANSWER

Sources: ANSWER press release, ANSWER web site, Xinhua

Party for Socialism and Liberation

Sources: Liberation News (1), pslweb.org, The Daily Free Press, Liberation News (2)

These protesters really, really like getting those free unemployment checks. They have nice homes, cable or satellite tv, internet, electricity, food stamps, cars, cigarrettes. Now, they complain, not because they don't have jobs. No. They are complaining because, since you work hard for your money, and you make for yourself more than what they get from the state, they feel you ought to compensate equally or more, for the amount they are getting from the state from your account or paycheck. They should be exported and shipped off to Russia, along with their president and hold a million man march in Red Square. See how that turns out... "again".

Well, does one blame Christian values for this move or do we stand and uncover the seed of deception planted by our colleges. Bill Ayers and other agnostics for years have spun their web, now the spiders are crawling. Failing to teach American History and love for country presents results. Failing to honor the God and his son who has given us our freedom is by far the main cause. In all of this perhaps remembering Auschwitz and others may help but is it past that? Be of good cheer all you born again Christians our Lord is on his way!

I am convinced that the only solution is a spiritual, political revival for each individual and as a nation.

Apart from "...a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence", our Republic is in grave peril.

For me, I will study my Bible and learn more about Bible propesies. When I read the 37th Chapter of Eziekle and also the last ten or so chapters of Ezekiel, I find that those Prophesies are being fullfilled on a daily bais.Also the words that Jesus himself spoke in the 24th Chapter of Mathew.

I recognize that many things prophesied in the Bible are being fulfilled daily at this time. Take one prophesy for example-- The increase in the number of earthqukes that are an everday occurencs over the whole earth. For the past few years I have noted the number of reported earthquakes have at the very least doubled each year. I saw one report that stated thatas many as several thousand have been beendetected in one day.

Because of these proofs that many of the prophesies found in the bible are being fullfilled so rapidly

leads me to believe that perhaps many of the weird things, and decisions that Obama is pushing might also be found to be included in some of the Bible`s prophesy`s

Let us not forget that Obama is an avowed Muslim. I heard him so state in a speach he made before he was elected President.

For me and mine, we will keep a sharp eye on Mr. Obama and his Islamic organizations and followers.

You know about all of those out door internment camps the government won't admit they've built at Army bases? They are for the idiot 20%. As in the early days of the Communist Chinese government we will let a thousand flowers bloom, they'll make their protest, the government will pick all of them up and arrest them, and the rest of us will cower as people do in China. This is what the Democrat-Socialist Party has been working for all these many years. Did you take note that the wonderful Mr. Clinton said at his concert for his 65th birthday that he's proud to call himself a citizen? And later he said we're all citizens of the world. Great platitudes. Citizens of a unified New World Order. "It won't be long now, Yeah!, till they -- come back -- for you."

MLK Jr. said MLK Sr. told him that he believed in redistribution of wealth, thus he was a communist just like the FBI suspected. That makes civil rights legislation a socialist ideal. The minorities in america now tell the majority what to do and judges usually side against the majority.

I was born in 1991.

The ignorance of my generation will be the downfall of this country. Everyone is distracted by social media, texting, video games etc and has no idea what is happening in our government and the real world in general. Worse yet, they don't care.

Blissfully ignorant and proud of it. Willfully distracted and not looking back.

When I press on the topic of politics with my peers I find they want the government to handle everything so they don't have to. It's disgusting and I am embarrassed to be part of the laziest, most self-induldged generation our country has ever seen.

I wouldn't be surprised if I no longer live in America by the time I'm 25.

Good luck patriots.

I feel that if we don't get rid of obama we the people are in a world of disfunction. Obama the do nothing pres. that blames the republicans for doing nothing when the democrats are in charge of 662/3% of the congress. Obama is a bastard that needs to be eliminated from the U.S. and sent back to Africa where he was born. Socialist or communism has never worked but Islamist musalems are out to destroy America and he has a good start. Impeach the imposter.

I don't expect the rich to give up their riches, but those, and similar corporations who pay no taxes need to have the loopholes plugged, so they will pay something toward their success.

How grateful all God's people can be as they read the ancient book of Job. It's there that we are allowed to see that our Holy God sets the limits on the extent of Satan's power to cause trouble for people and nations.

Those who demand to have all their help come from the government will discover that the cost is total

lack of freedom. Those who look to God discover that

they are the ones who have life and life abundantly! P.T.L.

Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; Its' inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery-----

Winston Churchill

I would add to that that Obama's gift tot the world is having unequivocally manifested all of the above virtues unapologetically for all to see. Now the American public no longer has to IMAGINE what the United States would look like under Socialism. The big question is will they REMEMBER this lesson in 2012?

Wow! This is fun!

I am not a 99% or a 1%, according OWS.

Nor am I a 20% or an 80%.

I do find things odd, being outside looking in:

1. those protesting are non-contributors to society, therefore, according to GB Shaw, M. Sanger and other socialists, they are "useless eaters" who should be "exterminated." Is that ironic, or am I missing the point?

2. If they are targeting "the 1%," name them. Seriously, I can think of Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Oprah, a lot of NFL, MLB and NBA stars, a bunch of singers and actors, Lady Gaga, Elton John,

Brad Pitt, etc.etc. Oh yea, I almost forgot! Nancy Pelosi and her husband...hmmm? I guess I could look at Forbes and find out who they are.

OO!OO! I forgot George Soros!

3.This looks like a prequel to the French Revolution. That didn't work out too well.

And I suppose I CAN, however, agree with Mutantone's list! I'm glad I'm not the only one who's watching those groups work "The Plan" laid out by Lenin and Stalin.

Yea, great work there, guys. Protest in a country that sustains you so you can change it into one that will shoot you in the head as soon a you get what your asking for! That's not a joke. It's an historical FACT.

Be careful what you ask for.

Many years ago I heard it said that if you really did take all the money in the U.S. and divided it equally among the populace, within a year or two, those that had it to begin with would have it again and those that didn't, wouldn't!

Aquiring money and keeping it is a talent, just like singing, playing sports, writing or any other skill.

I've also noticed that those that receive unearned bounty are not happy with what they have and always want more.

There is no doubt that the plan of Obama, and those who support him, is the complete destruction of our American Christian, Free Capitalist society. The fact that the Whitehouse, the bulk of the democrat(socialist)party in senate and house, the US Communist Party,the Unions, and the Occupy crowd, are all following the same policies, should give concern to every Patriotic American. It is important for us to understand that we are in a cultuarl war, and we must do everything in our power to defeat socialism. We must not be afraid to call a spade a spade.A communist is a communist,not a liberal. These folks would not know what it was to be liberal if it hit them up the face.

Starting now we must denounce the enemies of America, and seek to stop them in their tracks. We must point out the wrongs fearlessly. If we are able to have elections in 2012, we must seek to put up candidates who are unashamedly American, Strict Constitutionalists, God Fearing, and believers in Free Enterprize.(at least). Republicans must be serious about Conservatism,and stop playing footsy with RINOS. Oh yes, and these candidates must be willing to were American flags on their lapels.

God Bless my adopted country of AMERICA.

As an Amemrican citizen living in Australia I must comment that the Occupiers are active here as well. It is a global endeavor - part of the New World Order espoused by President George Herbert Bush during his one term as President in the early 90's.

I just read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged - amazing how her philosophy parallels the Founding Fathers concering industry (production). Amazing how her story is almost history written before it happened.

Those who rely on the government for their food and shelter will soon starve and freeze.

The Democratic Party in the U.S. and the Labor Party in Australia are Democratic Socialist parties and do not understand that the wealthy redistribute the wealth through paying people to work for them. Governmentally forced redistribution through welfare systems paid by taxes robs from the wealthy and middle class alike.

One would hope the Occupiers wake up and smell the poison in their "free" coffee.

You make reference to "Obama's mandate to implement Democratic Socialism." Hold on there, pardner. There is no such mandate, any more than President Clinton's 43% of the electoral vote in 1992 was a mandate. This is undeniably President Obama's goal and mission; but it is most definitely not a mandate.