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Obama Orders Military 'Gay Pride' Celebrations

CinC Using Armed Forces for Political Fodder

By Mark Alexander · Jun. 21, 2012
“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and morality are indespensible supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism who should labor to subvert these great Pillars of human happiness – these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere Politician, equally with the pious man ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. … [L]et us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that National morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.” –George Washington (1796)

Just when you thought the Left’s campaign of cultural degradation couldn’t become any worse, Barack Hussein Obama, ostensibly the Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces, sent down a decree that the Service Branches must celebrate “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month.” The purpose of this mandate is to affirm the minuscule number of homosexuals (2-3 percent) serving in the military ranks – mostly in rear echelon positions.

As you recall, one of Obama’s earliest campaign promises was to repeal the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” proscription against open homosexuality in the military ranks. On December 22, 2010, Obama signed that repeal after it had been passed by his outgoing NeoCom House majority and seconded by his Demo-controlled Senate. This occurred just weeks before Tea Party Republicans, who decimated the Democrats in the 2010 midterm elections, took over the House.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta dutifully carried out the “gay pride” order, saying, “During Pride Month, and every month, let us celebrate our rich diversity and renew our enduring commitment to equality for all.”

Obama’s declaration came during the same week the DoD announced it would comply with atheist group demands that all military editions of the Bible be removed from Base Exchange centers. The complainant had prepped a lawsuit based on the errant notion that “separation of church and state” is enshrined in our Constitution. Naturally, the Obama administration accepted their objection without a fight, based upon the Left’s adherence to a so-called “living constitution.”

Apparently, Panetta’s “enduring commitment to equality for all” applies to sexual preference but not faith. Oh, wait … maybe it doesn’t even apply to sexual preference. After all, when was the last time any Leftist celebrated “Heterosexual Pride Month”?

Make no mistake, Obama’s Gay Political Play is a keystone in the Left’s macro agenda to undermine the most critical pillar of Liberty, the family. However, there’s nothing “gay” about Gender-Disorientation Pathology, and “affirming homosexuals” in any context not only poses a threat to natural families and good military order, but disregards the welfare of millions who manifest this destructive pathology – merely using them as political pawns.

Rather than provide one lone opinion about Obama’s military “Gay Pride Month” mandate, I asked 20 career military officers, five from each of the service branches, to give me their opinions about this mandate. While I value the opinions of many young friends who are among the enlisted ranks, I chose to ask officers, in order to provide a more strategic perspective on this issue.

The responses I received came from those who ranked from O-2 to O-9. Each reported that their sentiments were echoed by virtually all of their colleagues. Each agreed to provide their “personal perspective” without attribution, because the military PC police (Lefty lawyers in the JAG and IG offices) are very persistent at prosecuting Obama dissenters, and these respondents expressed an interest in completing their military careers, abiding by their oaths as military officers, and endeavoring to maintain history’s best fighting force in defense of Liberty – despite assaults from the CinC to the contrary.

What follows are representative amalgamations of comments from members in each service branch, all of whom are combat veterans.


Clinton accelerated the practice of using the military as a political test platform for social policy, pandering to its electoral constituencies. The Obama regime put it in warp speed. … I will retire soon, and it pains me to see this political crap manifest itself in the ranks of fine young men and women. … Military service requires a solid foundation in moral virtue because war destroys the societal safeguards that aid civilized society and civilized people in staying grounded. When we remove morality from military service, such as the moral imperatives behind the UCMJ regulations against homosexual behavior and adultery, we risk dislodging the moral compass from its true north bearing. … This has nothing to do with military readiness and everything to do with political expedience. … The requirement for even more “sensitivity training,” which we already endure for Equal Opportunity (EO) and Sexual Harassment, Assault, and Rape Prevention (SHARP), and resulting UCMJ changes, all detract from the real aim and purpose of training our soldiers to fight and win, wasting his most precious resource, time. … This mandate is irresponsible and rains down from politicos who are not even remotely acquainted with the reality of ground combat.


I have had to do few things more distasteful in my 36 years than train (read “indoctrinate”) my unit members on the new post-Don’t-Ask-Don’t-Tell (DADT) rules. … Those of us who have been brought up with legitimate, closely held religious convictions have to bite our tongues and accept the unacceptable. … We all know it’s a load of horse dung, and are just holding our breath for a real CinC to replace the phony one now at the head of the table. … If being a Christian makes me a bigot, as our Commander-in-Chief indicated (in his reference to people “clinging to their guns and Bibles”,) then I willingly wear that title. … Next up will no doubt be affirmative action for homosexuals to increase their numbers in our ranks. … When one group, for whatever reason, is given preferential treatment over another, it is ultimately destructive to the command, or the service, or the military writ large. … Yet to meet one in the fighter community! … When you consider that the average junior sailor (E6 and below) lives separated from family and friends for months at a time and in worse conditions than the majority of our federal prisoners in order to serve and protect our nation, you’d think that they would be the last people who would have these political mandates imposed upon them by our civilian “leaders.” … Typical of an administration that can’t differentiate between equality and Liberty!


There is no evidence that decisively links genetics to homosexuality – and this lack of a genetic link totally separates this issue from race and gender … except for political expedience. … When will the pandering politicians please get their social agenda out of my way so we can do the job we came here to do? … Everyone who has candidly spoken to me about the issue thinks the DoD’s policy towards homosexual conduct is wrong, period, and contributes to a degradation of unit cohesion and effectiveness. The fact that the DoD would then not only allow the conduct, but now endorse it is absolute anathema to anyone with a moral compass. … Now that we’ve opened Pandora’s box by legalizing homosexual behavior, we are now challenged to figure out exactly what kind of status and rights we are going to bestow on it. As a commander, I would be content if we could simply acknowledge it as a permissible lifestyle and not celebrate it as some kind of panacea that will give our military a tipping-point advantage that will allow us to defeat our enemies. … Despite the “re-education classes,” I will likely continue to hear humorous comments loaded with gay innuendo, all followed by the standard disclaimer, “not that there’s anything wrong with that!”


I read Panetta’s order … and it sickened me. Panetta is not part of the “military ranks.” Unfortunately his “leadership” of the DoD defines, in part, where the military ranks are, and where we will go. … I’m not a fan of Hispanic Heritage Month, African-American Whatever, Women’s History Month, etc. The posters produced, ceremonies, seminars and luncheons held, and messages that are promulgated are presented under the guise of bringing us all together when, in fact, they mostly define and divide by differences. … Celebrating one’s heritage or behavior is fine as long as it’s your celebration, not the DoD’s, or the Nation’s. … Lord, please send us a real CinC! … In my opinion DADT was a very workable solution. If folks did their job and kept their homosexual behavior a private matter, I was OK with that. … I knew fellow Marines who cheated on their wives, who lied and who stole, but I was never required to celebrate those sins. I could still voice my rejection of those behaviors, and get my fellow Marines to straighten up and fly right. But now I would be dishonorably discharged for such action. … Numerous studies/surveys of our Marines conclude that the youngsters, who almost exclusively make up front-line combat troops, don’t fight for God or country or freedom. They fight for the guys on their left and right. By dividing along the lines of our differences, we erode the foundation of military success. … Contrary to Panetta’s statement, the military doesn’t exist to provide opportunities or make people feel good.

Unit Cohesion?

Two comments really sum up the thousands of words I received in response to the Obama “GLBT” mandate.

The first is from Col. Ron Crews, USA retired (emphasis added), who is now director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty: “By openly affirming bisexual and homosexual behavior, military leadership is coming into direct conflict with the morals and standards held almost universally by chaplains and service members of virtually every major faith group in the military. This blatant attempt to ‘celebrate’ a minority view of political correctness will not endear military families to the military. I want the American public to see just where the current administration is leading our military. They have turned our Armed Forces into a social experiment at the cost of military readiness.”

The second is from a Marine: “When I volunteered for the Marine Corps, the military expelled homosexuals. A decade later, Bill Clinton ordered that we ignore homosexuals as long as they kept their sexual preferences a private matter (Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell). That was OK because few if any of them were in combat units. Last year, Obama and his Leftist congressional cadres obliged the military to endorse open homosexuality (Do Ask, Do Tell). This decision had nothing to do with military readiness and everything to do with political pandering to a loud special interest group. This week, Barack Obama decreed that my Marine Corps would officially ‘celebrate Gay Pride Month.’ The next step will be to set quotas for homosexuals in the ranks, and to offer marriages and same-sex benefits. I’m preparing for retirement after more than 30 years of service to my country, and more than a few scars to prove it. It grieves me to leave my beloved Corps in such a state, being used as a political crap pot for Obama and his socialist administrators. I have honored my oath. They have deserted theirs. Do citizens give a s–t anymore? Time to wake up. God Bless America! S/F.”

When Obama repealed DADT in December 2010, he said, “We are not a nation that says, ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says, ‘Out of many, we are one.’” But Obama’s invocation of “E Pluribus Unum,” the national motto proposed by Benjamin Franklin, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson in 1776, as the basis for his social agenda to normalize homosexual deviance, is anathema to its definition. That is because Obama’s objective is not to unite, but to divide (and conquer) under the pretense of uniting.

George Washington once called on the nation to determine whether we would be united or divided: “We are either a United people, or we are not. If the former, let us, in all matters of general concern act as a nation, which have national objects to promote, and a national character to support. If we are not, let us no longer act a farce by pretending to it.”

Indeed, Obama in his capacity as President and CinC, is a monumental farce.

(For more on this issue, read Gender Identity, The Homosexual Agenda and The Christian Response and 10 Reasons Homosexual Behavior Is Unfit for the American Armed Forces.)

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Dioneikes in Colorado said:

It is TIME to get rid of this assmunch that sits in the Oval Office and soils its honor with his very presence. To see what he has been doing to my beloved country and my military heritage, sickens me and angers me. I wonder just as my "brother" Marine did, don't civilians care what is happening to the military anymore? I was in the Navy back when we used to get rid of those people who were an anathma to good order and discipline, or you can call it "GOD" as it was what made the military a functioning fighting unit. It is NOT the place for social experimentation. For God's sake People ... WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!!

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:04 AM

lbgage in Az replied:

As one of "We the People", let me assure you that so very many of us have indeed woken up. You won't read about us but we do donate money and time to organizations that fight against changing "Marriage Between a Man and a Woman" to gay marriage. I fight it at the high school where I teach. Even if we weren't in the military we do care! I've been present in more Tea Party events than I can count until it got politicized. I donate money to Liberty Council and the Patriot Post among others. I write letters, email, call and attend gatherings of our elected representatives. It is just as disheartening for us as well as for you to see this country slide into moral decay. We do have the right to toss out the President, Congress, and our Representatives. If not by vote then by force. I was looking forward to growing old, visiting my kids and g'kids. However, my husband and I have decided that if freedom for our loved ones demand we wade into the fight and lose our lives then we will have done our very best for freedom. Those of us that feel this way are hoping for one uniting person to sound the trumpet call to 'Charge!' Keep your powder dry!

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Kittie Mann in Pleasanton, Texas replied:

Amen---fellow american and I'm a granny with dry powder

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 11:05 PM

ganewf in Warner Robins, GA replied:

lbgage,you are right and, you would be surprised how many of us, civilian, retired military, and active military are keeping our powder dry. One other thing I urge folks to do is buy guns and ammo. I will gaurantee Hillary is on a mission, directed by OBUMMER, to get us entraped in the UN effort to eliminate our second amendment right to bear arms. Get prepared while you can and be ready to stand and defend this great nation from the "Domestic Enemy" occupying the White House.

Thursday, June 28, 2012 at 2:24 PM

William Keller in Fayetteville, NC replied:

Thank you for your post. As a veteran, I am equally disgusted with the complete lack of standards and values exhibited by our governing officials, particularly that person in the Oval Office. I am equally fed up with the complacency among the citizens of this country and their lack of morality. God help us.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Ted in Bagram, AF replied:

William, you are not as alone as the liberal media may have you to believe. MANY STAND WITH YOU. I am one. God Bless You.

Monday, June 25, 2012 at 2:08 PM

sfj in Alabama replied:

It's already too late. I served on active duty for 23 years in both the Army (RVN combat vet) and USAF. I retired in 1988 and still work for the USAF as a civilian. I see this crap every day - ignorant/lazy civilians making ill-informed decisions about our military. Of course the militant gay community will seize the opportunity to blackmail these feckless "leaders" (military and civilian) into "celebrating" an immoral lifestyle. The military is gone - no discipline - no moral compass - no sense of pride. The picture of 2 "marines" kissing says it all - DISGUSTING!

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Guillermo in EL SALVADOR replied:

I served in Irak in 2005 as a member of one of the salvadorean contingents that were sent to OIF. I was so proud of serving along with those wonderful men and women of the US military, so humble and at the same time so magnificent. I retired after serving my country as CNO and in that condition I continued working tiogether with american military. Now I find to my distress that all moral values, which are the core of that great miltitary organization are under attack by liberals headed by Mr. Obama. How painful is to us, the foreign military who admire you so much, to witness how you walk towards your degradation and eventualy towards your destruction. Isn't there any thing that can be done to prevent this? Please do something; the world has it's eyes upon you.......

Wednesday, June 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Kevin Shimp in Colorado said:

This is a sad and difficult article for me to read. I am retired. I value my service to God and country. The sentiments expressed indicate a profound sense of loss. Our country seems to be falling apart at the "heart." When will we change our heart? When will we again comprehend true "pride" - not the false one that exhibits the rainbow of moral decay... When will we wake up to the reclaim "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" based on inalienable rights endowed by our Creator?

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Ray Lindsey in ohio replied:

First to all who have served and are serving, I thank you. Second I served in the Navy from 61 to 65, at that time if someone was found to be gay they were immediately discharged. Now we have a whole new problem. Sailors doing duty on board ships are in very close quarters, the literally sleep just feet apart, some times less, now you add a homosexual and you have nothing but trouble. This is a disgrace to our military and our country. I wonder if the President or Peneta has read the story of Sodum and Gamora. (spelling may be wrong) how God destroyed a whole city because there were none righteous, mostly homo's. unbelievable this adminstration calling it self the commander in chief.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:36 AM

R. Courtney in Washington replied:

Mr. Lindsey, first, you're welcome, I am proud of my combined 21 years service (8 USN/13 USNR) and time served in Vietnam. Second I served USN from 1963 to 1971 and was a Yeoman 1964-1971. I had to process homosexuals from the Navy, it was the law. I did not, and will not, question the UCMJ and all that it stands for. Where I was concerned was that we treated gays as criminals, they had two choices: 1) face a courts-martial or 2) request a discharge under other than honorable conditions - gee let's ruin their lives while we're at it. We treated substance abusers and other assorted losers better than we treated gays when it came to discipline. Was the Navy correct in carrying out the letter of the UCMJ - YES.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 7:31 PM

john olson in minneapolis mn. replied:


Friday, June 22, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Steve Spencer in Muscatine, IA replied:

This is true. The military cannot order one to celebrate gay pride month. They can try, but the list of those disobeying orders would skyrocket. It's best to let only those who feel like "celebrating" it "celebrate" it, which would be very few. The gay pride month is just not recognized by the vast majority of people, and most likely never will. Anyone can make up a "month" for a cause, then "celebrate" it. Kind of reminds me of "Festivus", the holiday created by Jerry Stiller in Seinfeld.

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 4:21 AM

Sam Santucci in Gladstone, New Jersey replied:

I, too, share your sadness. I, too, value my service to God and country. I, too, feel our country is falling apart. When will it change? When will we re-
claim "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?" It will take time, patience
and perserverance for much has been lost, but it can start as early as Nov-
ember by voting this arrogant, condescending, narcissistic, godless, man out of the White House! Then, and only then, can we begin to rebuild the
country envisioned by our Founding Fathers.

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Mike Burwash in Albuquerque said:

Even though he obviously despises the military, he is not hesitating in this attempt use it for his own political gain. Col. Sherman T. Potter on MASH used a descriptive term appropriate here "horsehockey"!

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Kenneth Wood in Marion NC said:

This thing is pure BullShit to put it mildly...
It's not the same Navy I served in during Korea ..
Obama is ruining our once great Military ...

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Steve Spencer in Muscatine, IA replied:

Agreed. No man has created more ruin to a military force than Barack Obama.

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 4:23 AM

Michael Gehri in San Antonio said:

A serious mistake done solely for his re-election, blatantly dumb...

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Chuck daniel in Newport News, Va said:

Yet ANOTHER instance of El Presidente's assault on our country. We need this man out of office NOW! He and his "Social Scientists" have wrecked enough damage to our once great nation. We need to rally ourselves & come out of the gate fighting for our country back!

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM

COL Joseph A. Masterson in Crestview, FL said:

They do not want "Equality"! They want "Superiority" and preferential treatment! This "in your face" approach has gotten way out of hand.

If they want to engage in deviant behavior, then let them go off to some private enclave. Heterosexual people do not engage in the type of behavior they do in public. It is a "private" matter and should be KEPT that way.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Corsica in Bayonne, NJ replied:

Truer words were never spoken (written). These groups have become obnoxious and arrogant. For a group that was supposedly persecuted, they sure have become persecutors.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 1:01 PM

nameless in replied:


Heterosexual people DO engage in such deviant behavior. Have you ever gone to the mall and seen serious face munching? What about drunken couples that don't realize no one wants to see them making out and falling all over each other? Everything that you see in the homosexual community happens in the heterosexual community, even anal sex. It's ignorant to think that it's just one group. And I agree wholeheartedly. It's something that should be kept private, but don't narrow it down to one group, because all groups are guilty of the behavior you're complaining about.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 5:49 PM

JesusKnight in Texas replied:

But they do not force homosexuals to participate in such behavior or make them 'celebrate' it. Chew on that...

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Marine Mom in Levittown replied:

BS. What is serious kissing? At the mall? I go twice a year to Oxford Valley Mall, no one, NO ONE was kissing, and barely anyone held hands. Everything you are saying is done in public, not.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Just Saying in Idaho replied:

You have the right to say that when the heterosexuals have pride parades, where they make out in public, and be almost naked, flaunting their heterosexuality. And the fact that heterosexual couples may experiment with deviant behaviour doesn't make that behaviour normal.
You are but a plant from the likes of HuffPo.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Steve Spencer in Muscatine, IA replied:

No, same gender sex is an exception. It's pretty bad. Can't fit it into our universe. Opposites attract, the same do not, so when it happens in human culture, something very wrong is up.

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 4:26 AM

Dave in Denver, CO said:

As an honorably discharged US Marine, I am sickened and saddened by what is happening to my Corps. We MUST get this guy out of the White House, or see the end of the America that we love.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Dale R Johnson in Kaufman Texas said:

I do believe we are no longer one country. I didn't think we could do any worse than Bill Clinton but I know now that there is no absolute bottom. This socialist, fruitcake lover will be re-elected and the next 4 years will move us closer to the one world government goal of the left. It may also drive us closer to secession and revolution as well.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:23 AM

OldCyeKoe in Midland, Michigan replied:

I may have to move to Texas so I can secede with you. This social experiment is the most utterly disgusting thing I have ever seen in my 60 years. God help us!

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Lawrence in Ft Lauderdale, FL replied:

Retired TSGT USAF Desert Storm Vet 1991. Unfortunately I predict
a second term. Voter apathy indifference ignorance..entitlement programs.
God help us!

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 3:17 PM

jeff spencer in texas said:

the sergeant major is right on...we've got to stop this "abomination" from continuing and make sure we activate everyone who believes in moral values, integrity, and "true" Christianity actively participates in the upcoming election

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:23 AM

RK Sprau in L.C. N.M. replied:

I've read numerous comments. I know very little about the Marine Corp or the Navy for I'm Army. Beliefs, this is what keeps us going.

I've read we are Christians, We are Christians. Good. Let's assume for sake of argument this is a symptom of a vastly larger problem. Now what other symptoms are there, we are cutting food stamps to the very poor, we have a state that fires elected officials, I can go on.

We can focus on a hot issue topic or we can do our christian duty across the board. When he church send a letter to Congress and to Rep Ryan personally telling them they aren't doing Gods will and they are hurting the poor across the board, I believe, I have to check, no one on this blog said jack about it. We become upset over the gay issue yet we call ourselves Christians, Maybe God allowed this to happen. (See Amos and Hos) for examples). Maybe this is a wake up call and we are to self centered or blind to see it. If this is the case, I would hate to see what he has in store next. we had major storms, earthquakes, now this. Yet we're focused on a symptom not the disease.

We want doctors to lie to there patients, woman to stay home, barefoot and pregnant by passing anti birth control laws yet we're upset for God allowed this to happen? Time to pray for what we';re doing wrong across the board and not just this. We are willing to starve our own, not give them a living wage, kill them by pricing them out of the health care insurance but we complain about this.

Maybe, just maybe we have been judged and found wanting, Maybe wer are to blind to see.

All I'm saying is we all to include myself, should look at the larger picture and quit hiding behind the Bible or a title.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 1:31 PM

KD in Arizona replied:

Was there a point buried in this nonsense that is anyway germane to the article?

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 2:38 PM

RK Sprau in L.C. N.M. replied:

Yes. KD. The nonsense is we claimed to follow God, we claim to uphold the Bible yet we DO NOT. We claim to do but our actions say something different. the nonsense is are we being judge for past sins or is this a wake up call. The point is, I've read numerous Biblical quotes, THAT is the point.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Elizabeth Staats in New Smyrna Beach, FL replied:

The current Administration seems determined to undermine the traditional high moral standards, pride and comradere of our great military men & women. What could celebrating gay pride month have to do with military missions, this is ludicrous!

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Mark in Virginia replied:

You make no sense. You need to read your Bible and understand that your objections are not bible based. Birth control is not a biblical idea.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 2:54 PM

RK Sprau in L.C. N.M. replied:

Guess again.

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Just Saying in Idaho replied:

RK this is utter nonsense. So, if we are against the government redistributing wealth in the guise of welfare, and against the gov mandating birth control paid with tax payers money, we are not bible minded? Where did you come up with the idea that Jesus wants the GOVERNMENT to take care of the poor, and provide birth control? And your attitude is right there with Lenin's: if you are not with us, you are against us. So if our conscience says no to birth control it absolutely, necessarily means that we want women back in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant?
Health care is not a right Mr. Sprau. Life is not fair, nor are we all the same. Only in Socialism, where being the same is mandated by the gov (except for the ruling class) would you see your dream of having all the rights you want. But they all come with a price...
I said it before, and I will say it again. With friends like you, who needs the progressive enemies?

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 5:42 PM

RK Sprau in L.C. N.M. replied:

We do for it keeps us line and forces us to re-examine ourselves

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 12:03 AM

RK Sprau in L.C. N.M. replied:

I'll say this later on but to you, I didn't send the letter to Rep Ryan or to Congress, the church did. I am not there answering service. If you have a beef take it up with the spiritual leaders not I. When Congress or Ryan says the church is wrong, then we have taken it upon ourselves to go against those who the Lord has placed over us. When Congress who claims to be christian says, the church is wrong, when will it end. This is the thrust of my statement. If you have a problem with who wrote what, take it up with those who God placed over you.

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 2:38 AM

MNIce in Minnesota replied:

I have been learning from the Bible for over half a century, and I have yet to read a passage that says it is the duty of government to provide for the poor. However, I see many passages that say it is the duty of those who have material goods to help those who do not. And yet, even then the Scriptures do not require a handout. For in Leviticus 19:9-10 God says, "When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not wholly reap the corners of your field, nor shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. And you shall not glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather every grape of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the poor and the stranger: I am the Lord your God." The poor were expected to harvest and prepare their food themselves! Not only that, but this passage, as do all others prescribing care for the poor, makes it a personal act.

Even when providing for the poor was done collectively, as we see in the New Testament, it was done by voluntary contributions through the Church, not the State. You are mistaken to say it is unchristian for Representative Ryan et al. to refuse to increase coercive provision for the world's richest poor people. (And if you had looked at how many people we have added to the food dole since January 2009, you would see that your claim that we are cutting the program is incorrect.)

However, God did command the government not to oppress the people, particularly not the poor. When government imposes a tax code designed to prevent people from saving enough to get out of poverty, that is oppression. When government sets a minimum wage that keeps people with few skills out of the job market, that is oppression. And when government demands the military spend money on propaganda events when it cannot afford the pensions and medical care it provides to those who have sacrificed health and fitness for their country, that is oppression.

Thomas Jefferson asserted, "To compel a man to provide for the propagation of opinions he disbelieves and abhors is both tyrannical and sinful." It is difficult to imagine any other action would bear this out more accurately than what Mr. Obama has just done. I would point out that, since Congress has not appropriated any funds for the promotion of this perverse and disgusting behavior, a requirement for the expenditure of even a single penny of the taxpayers' money to comply with the order would make it illegal.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:40 PM

RK Sprau in L.C. N.M. replied:

I wish I could say ouch. Normally I concur with you but not this time. The church sent the letter not I, the church sent it to Congress and to Paul Ryan not I. If you have a complaint send it to them for I'm not there complaint department.

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 12:01 AM

RK Sprau in L.C. N.M. replied:

In the New Testament, it's called early church communism. It was taught to all seminary students during the study of the book of Act's.

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 12:05 AM

John W Bletsch in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio replied:

Semper Fi SgtMajor! I have been activated against this abomination and treasonous usurper of the office of president for over 3 years now. What he does is unconstitutional and comletely against the principals that guided our founding fathers. Sgt E-5; honorable discharge, Vietnam veteran 1967, Northern I Corps

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Dave Ingram in Ponder,Texas replied:

TOTALLY AGREE !!Jeff,if this bastard offspring of Muhammad wants to worship "allah" and act like an Arab chieftan,then lets ship him to Iran and let him see how much he likes that culture !! Michelle will beating him over the head with a broom all the way back to the airport !!

Sunday, June 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Orton Peat in NY said:

I'm glad I'm 70 and not 17! What will come next in our PC USA? Every belief I have has been asaulted by the PC crowd, Democrats, Progessives and Obama. The only answer may be worse, but it may be the only answer. Occam's Razor will out.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Tom Ponko in Grove, OK said:

Just another reason to make sure he is a "one term" president. I spent over 30 years in the Navy and burnt my retirement certificate because it was signed by Bill Clinton. Not sure what I would do with one signed by BHO, but I sure wouldn't keep it.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM

marv in va said:

If Obama wants them in the service, put them all in one unit and call it the
"Gay Brigade" Semper Fi

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Bob in Louisville, KY replied:

Probably be a lot of "soap dropping" in that brigade.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 12:08 PM

The Sarge in California replied:

However, they will excel in "naked leapfrog...!"

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 1:35 AM



Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Gary the Immoderator in Anderson, South Carolina replied:

"STUPPED" interesting use of Yidish slang though the spelling is actually shtupped. Or perhaps you meant stooped. Either way I'm told spelling doesn't count here. And I'm just teasing.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Chime in Houston, Texas replied:

Gary: Why can you not keep your stupid mouth shut? Oh, I forget you share one of Obama's shortcomings, you simply do not know when to keep your trap shut.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Gary the Immoderator in Anderson, South Carolina replied:

Is the First Amendment suspended on this forum? Half of the inane things I say here are to get a rise out of people like you who can't stand to hear an opinion that differs from their own.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Mike (Arizona born and raised) in California (Not by choice) replied:

You actually asked if the First Amendment is suspended in a post you were freely allowed to submit? Now I'm really confused, Gary.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Just Saying in Idaho replied:

We are really very grateful to you Gary, for bringing the inane opinions here. I think we had enough of them, though. Can you express a cogent thought, or maybe just go away for a while? I hear that they are missing you at the Huff Po

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Mike (Arizona born and raised) in California (Not by choice) replied:

P.S. The First Amendment protects citizens from THE GOVERNMENT quelling your speech, not private websites. Please find your high school civics teacher and punch him in the face. Additionally, find your Latin teacher and give him an apple as your repeated use of "ad hominem" should warrant some kind of recognition for somebody.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Leorena Gore in Mesa, Arizona replied:

Good Word Capt. Bill and I am glad you have the courage to speak out. Keep Speaking Out, Voices like yours needs to be heard more and more, and courage in men like you need to rise up. Where is the man that will stand in the gap for the USA, God, Country and Freedom. I am glad to read of one here that is willing and able..Thanks again

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 5:59 PM

The Sarge in California replied:

Wise words Captain... wise words...

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Rob in Peoria, Arizona replied:

That is a great suggestion and, since we know the muslim anti-gay position, the "Gay Brigade" could be posted on the front lines of action against those forces.....should work out well.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Marine who quit in Iowa replied:

I agree with marv in va, put all the queers into one unit, train them for combat service and use them as the "point" on all combat adventures. Sexual activity, including any and all foreplay and preparation for the act, should take place in a private location not demonstrated for all to see. No matter how attractive and sexy I, or anyone else, thinks they are, no-one wants to see them crawling all over each other in public. Those are actions that should be kept private and between themselves alone, not foisted on those who have enough decorum to do those things in private.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 3:07 PM

The Sarge in California replied:

Let's call them; "The Lavender Savages Brigade"

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Dwayne Alons, BGen (ret) IA ANG in Hull, IA said:

To me, this direction for the military soils my service to my country. I believe my military years devoted to preserving our freedoms under our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution meant preserving life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which is doing the right thing while serving our Creator - not embracing a perverted way of life.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM

The Sarge in California replied:

General Alons - It does my heart well to see someone from the " Good Old Boys Club" have the balls to stand up and make their voice heard...!!! It used to be that if a moronic policy like this were adapted - a General Officer or two would throw their stars on the desk in protest... I didn't think those types of General Officers existed any longer....!!!

BRAVO ZULU Sir...!!!!

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Robert Drake Jr in Tucson Arizona replied:

Kudos General,
We are meant to serve the whole country not celebrate a tiny percentage of a self serving population that has no idea what military service is about!
proud vet

Friday, June 22, 2012 at 4:27 AM

Dave Ingram in Ponder,Texas replied:

General Alons,
I wanted to thank you first of all for your service to your country and secondly for your comments.It gives me comfort to know that men such as yourself are still serving in our armed forces and will lead my grandson (who is serving in the Army in Afghanistan)In the proper manner where he will not be subjected to this immmoral behavior.Again,THANK YOU !

Sunday, June 24, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Ron Warren in Annapolis MO said:

As a retired Marine, I can only say that I am glad I served when I did and not now and that I feel for the Marines of today having to go thru such PC crap!! It is a lowering of standards to accept immoral behavior.

Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM