Climate Change: Back to the Future?

· Thursday, January 14, 2010

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams

My father phoned from the Florida Keys this week. At 86, he likes warmer climates in winter, but there has been nothing warm in Florida lately -- it was zero degrees Celsius the morning he called.

Three decades ago, scientists coldly calculated that another ice age was imminent. (See AccuWeather's analysis of these predictions.) But, no longer. Today, they are prophesying that ice caps will melt within the next hundred years and swamp coastal lowlands. That is unless, and only unless, an international governing authority is established posthaste to control economic/industrial development that is blamed for global warming.

What is the truth?

Earth's climate is changing. It always has, and it always will. Mean global temperatures might, in fact, have trended upward, though recently, many climatologists are now suggesting that the planet might be in a 10-30 year cooling trend.

If anthropogenic (manmade) CO2 really has been responsible for a global warming trend over the last two decades, then why, with more man-caused CO2 today than at any other time in history, would the climate be cooling now? CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere are estimated to have increased from 280 parts per million before 1750 (industrialization) to 387ppm today -- a 38 percent increase, so the ice age hype of the 1970s notwithstanding, how could a warming trend be interrupted?

The Obama administration and their Leftmedia minions are double-talking this apparent contradiction, claiming that global warming is responsible for global cooling, and the lemmings are buying it wholesale.

Moreover, why would those scientists who insist they can predict the temperature 100 years from now, fail to predict the current cooling trend?

There are many factors influencing climate. Variations in solar cycles, solar radiation deflection/absorption, the earth's core, ocean currents, complicated climate cycles, urban islands, rain forest depletion in some regions, reforestation in other regions and volcanic eruptions are just a few. The influence and interaction of all these factors and many more are much too complex to model precisely enough to draw conclusions about temperature rises and drops next month, much less next century.

According to the best scientific evidence available, much of our planet has been buried under ice for most of the last million years. The duration of the ice ages was about 100,000 years, the most recent beginning approximately 114,000 years ago when global temperatures abruptly plummeted. Just as suddenly, about 10,000 years ago the planet warmed and glaciers receded.

I checked, and there were no coal-burning fuel plants or SUVs in 8000 BC, but that will, of course, not deter the climate alarmists and their cult following.

The most recent effort at establishing an international economic/industrial regulatory body, ostensibly to control CO2 production, was the December '09 confab in Copenhagen. Representatives from 200 nations gathered an effort to draft a successor to the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, the last attempt at controlling CO2 output of industrialized countries.

Kyoto called for the reduction by 2010 of CO2 and other greenhouse gases to a level that was 5.2 percent less than their 1990 output, an average 29 percent cut of current emissions levels.

The accords failed at Kyoto and Copenhagen, primarily because the biggest growth in CO2 production is from China, India and other developing economies. These nations are not about to submit to international agreements to suppress or depress their industrial output.

Despite scandals involving global warming alarmists -- most recently the suppression of contradictory evidence by climatologists at the University of East Anglia -- and Albert Gore's outright lies at Copenhagen, it is important to understand that there is a relationship between CO2 levels and global temperature -- the "greenhouse effect."

Though 99 percent of our atmosphere consists of nitrogen (78 percent by volume) and oxygen (21 percent by volume), without greenhouse gasses, primarily in the form of water vapor, in the remaining one percent of air, the mean temperature of earths climate might be as much as 40C degrees lower.

However, the overriding question is not whether the climate is changing -- it is -- but why is the climate changing? Answering that question requires steady, rational analysis and conclusions, not hyped-up fear mongering driven by political agendas and bolstered by phony so-called "carbon credit" scams.

Though we mere mortals have a natural desire to predict the future and be the arbiters of our own destiny and that of our planet, when it comes to our ability to control global climate, the fact is we probably have less control than a butterfly has in a tornado.

Of course, all the hyperbole about climate change is not so much about global warming or cooling as it is about centralization of the global economy and usurpation of national sovereignty by supranational governing entities.

As Alexander Hamilton warned, "Of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people, commencing demagogues and ending tyrants."

Though the climate may be cooling or warming, Leftists never let facts impede their power grabbing agenda, and such is the case with Obama's "cap and trade" tax legislation.

After usurping the banking, investment, insurance and auto industries and attempting to slice up the national health care sector, the Obama administration will be redoubling its efforts to enact CO2 legislation in order to control the industrial sector of our economy.

The bottom line is this: Human activity does affect the climate. Every time you exhale CO2, you increase the concentration of that minuscule greenhouse gas in the atmosphere -- but if you want to make a positive impact upon the environment, don't hold your breath. Roll up your sleeves and promote liberty, because, per capita, it is the free nations of the world that have the cleanest environments.

Conservation is not a bad word -- it even shares the same root word as "conservative." Indeed, our family makes every effort to use energy and resources wisely. The "waste not, want not" principle is good economic practice.

But make no mistake; those who are attempting to enact global mandates are advancing, first and foremost, socialist economic agendas under the guise of concern for the global climate. The implication for liberty, in those few pockets of the world where it still exists, is ominous.



Comments

Levi in MO

An occasional bit of truth is so refreshing.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:29:16 AM


Neal

This hits it on the mark. I am so tired of hearing, "It's so cold because it's so hot".

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:30:44 AM


Bud Heisser

Another great column today on the global warming hoax, Mark. These scientists, in an effort to keep their funding, have taken the approach used by opinion polls. "Give me the result you want and I will get data to prove it". Now, in the face of growing evidence that the climate may actually be cooling, they are telling us that's what it takes for a warmer climate, more cooling.

Keep up the great job!

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:31:12 AM


A. Black

IT IS PAST TIME THAT PEOPLE ACKNOWLEDGE, "GOD IS THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE AND IT IS ONLY GOD WHO CONTROLS THE CLIMATE".

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:32:02 AM


Daryl Bickell

"According to the best scientific evidence available, much of our planet has been buried under ice for most of the last million years. The duration of the ice ages was about 100,000 years, the most recent beginning approximately 114,000 years ago when global temperatures abruptly plummeted. Just as suddenly, about 10,000 years ago the planet warmed and glaciers receded." I would be care in believing this. This just falls into believing in biological evolution. I believe in what the Bible says about a global flood and the after effect of this was the cause of the so called ice age occurring only around 4000 years ago.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:32:14 AM


Karl

An A+ essay! One word; BRILLIANT!

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:35:11 AM


William R

The most casual observer should see that any democrat solution to any contrived problem involves taxes and wealth transfer. If this is such an effective method, let's do away with the local police departments and just put a tax on criminal behavior.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:36:31 AM


Bob

It's also possible that we are in at a low level for CO2 in the atmosphere. In our hydroponic greenhouse, we have a CO2 generator to increse the "greenhouse" gas levels as the plants grow 30-50% faster with larger fruit in the higher concentration. Statistics are wonderful things but when applied to climate change the scope seems to be so narrow that the scientists have missed the big picture.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:38:17 AM


Marjean Morton

There is a forest, can't remember exactly where, somewhere in the northern north American continent, where no people live and few animals live. This forest produces enough oxygen to supply the entire earth EVERY DAY. I remember seeing this on either the Discovery channel or National Geographic channel. The environment God brought into existence is indestructible by man. The devine laws of nature established are immutable. Even though man will fail and bring a curse on the environment, God will never forsake His creation. In other words, even tho man will do lots to impact our invironment, it can not and will not be destroyed by man, because God said so.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:38:56 AM


Patrick Mandeville

My sister voted for Obama, every can, glass bottle, and piece of plastic gets thrown away in her house. We didn't vote for Obama. Every can, glass bottle and piece of plastic gets recycled.

Go figure.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:41:54 AM


Rifleman

It's all about FEELINGS, not FACTS. Since the 1960s, we've taught two successive generations to FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEMSELVES; to reject anyone or anything who doesn't kowtow to that mantra. That's why Obama was elected: because people FELT GOOD about the "community organizer." Oprah is a Billionaire because people FEEL GOOD about her show. Obama has convinced millions of Americans that Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Pharmaceutical, Big Medicine, Big Insurance, Big Morgage. Big Profit are all something we ought to FEEL BAD about. Algore has amassed a net worth of some $150 Million while he's taken $750 Million in taxpayer shamulus money overseas to build an Eco-car which will sell for $80,000. He's laughing all the way to the bank, riding the tsunami of making people FEEL GOOD about "saving the planet." Geese gather in gaggles. I believe that idiots do as well.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:45:33 AM


Paul Reinfried

I agree with your assessment that global warming / climate change is all a big hoax. However, I do take issue with your statement about the ice age and millions and hundreds of thousands of years ago, which is belief in another hoax called evolution. As we all know from the bible the earth is only about 8 - 10 thousand years old.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:51:27 AM

Editor's Reply:

Where does the Bible say that the earth is only 8-10 thousand years old? You seem so sure - we'd be grateful for a reference.

Mark Sussman

I found your article to be well written and consistent with much of what I read from other science-based writings. I think that facts will win in the end, but it might be a long, expensive ride if the Conservation radicals have their way. Moreover, the ride will be dangerous both to our liberty and prosperity. I think we've made some progress, largely because the "Greenies" have periodically shot themselves in the foot. But we can't confidently rely on that. What are your thoughts on making the rational, science-based, Pro-Conservation philosophy more widespread and accepted? Where are the best "tip of the spear" Leaders and Organizations?

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:51:59 AM


rpu28

It's easy enough to determine whether we are in a warming or cooling trend - just define the measurement method and period (e.g. the average noontime temperature of the capital cities of the 100 largest countries, tabulated annually) and see if anything changes. This is good,solid data - but it covers only the blink of an eye in geologic/climatic terms. Movie stars think we're in catastrophic global warming because it was really hot in Malibu last summer; others say we are moving toward an ice age because the temperature trend has been downward for the past five years. It's quite possible that we are hurtling toward another ice age at historic speed, just as they claimed in the 1960's, but are merely undergoing a minor warming period that will last only a century or two; a warming period that will be undetectable to scientists 2000 years from now. Because the reverse is also possible, I'd prefer that we not spend a trillion dollars a year trying to prevent one trend instead of the other. Better to leave that money in the hands of those who will cure malaria or find an economical substitute for petroleum.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:52:34 AM


Jenny

If you'd like more information regarding ice ages, check out answersingenesis.org. They have articles online and books available written by scientists (Christian scientists) regarding global warming and previous ice ages (not to mention many other topics).

Thanks for all you do.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:53:41 AM


Vince Morgillo

I think we are all missing the ruse. It is not the industrial sector that these pundits are after. It is the control of profits from energy. In our technologically dependent world energy is the common factor. Those who control energy control all. During my 35 years in the automotive industry the reason for giving our jobs to Mexico (thanks Billy -NAFTA), China, India, etc. was labor costs. The real financial driver was the conversion costs - the cost of converting material into products which requires ENERGY. The cost of energy in NW Ohio is some of the highest in the nation even though we have a nearby nuclear plant and natural gas and petroleum reserves nearby. Labor has become a very small part of conversions costs due to the level of automation used in industry. The ENERGY used is still significant. Refining, smelting, forging, casting, molding, etc. require huge amounts of energy. China, India, Mexico and other countries strictly control their energy 'costs' making them artificially competitive. These same countries are excluded from the 'Cap and Trade' discussions. Show me an energy company that is not paying BIG bonuses and reaping HUGE profits. Look at todays price of gasoline. even with growing inventories. A great read was the book (and the movie) the formula. BP, Exon, Shell, etc. learned in the '40s that energy controlled the world. Banks thrive on the investments from the energy giants. The Bilderberg group knows this and are the Pied Pipers of Global Warming.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:57:34 AM


Jack

I reject the notion that because I am a conservative I do not care for the Earth. I have no problem with doing things that lessen my impact on the earth. But don't tell me I HAVE to do these things or else the earth will be destroyed by the actions of humans. I agree that most of this hype has only one objective: the control and enslavement of the people so the powers that be can have their power and comforts while telling us that we HAVE to do these things for the good of all mankind.

I refuse to go back to the STONE AGE. And I refuse to give power to these idiots who want to cram an unconstitutional measure down our throats.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:58:54 AM


Ellen

The only thing that has come from this on-going debate on climate control is that Al Gore -- who exposed the love canal -- who invented the Internet -- all lies -- has become a multi-millionaire. He refuses to debate those who dispute these findings. One of the things for which I will be eternally grateful is that this guy never made it to the White House. On November 13, 2000 I received a copy of "The 1001 Lies of Al Gore." Everyone should read this One was that he said that his father, a senator, was a champion of Civil Rights during the 1960s when --in truth -- he voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. There are many, many more. He is a congenital liar.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:02:20 PM


Jenny

I don't understand much of politics and don't keep up that much with it. But an interesting thing happened recently.

I was watching History Channel's series of shows with my son on WWII. One program was devoted to explaining the "cult" in Hitler's government and a particular statement slapped me in the face. They stated that Germany was still reeling and struggling financially from WWI and because of the poor economy it was prime for Hitler to come in and appear to take in hand the needs and concerns of the people. Then we all know what happened after that.

What I realized is that in all probability (I believe) the Democratic (Socialist) Party and Obama are deliberately destroying our economy FOR THE PURPOSE of becoming tyrants/dictators/(whatever else names fit) to rule the United States of America.

Not sure what we can do besides pray and vote everyone out that we can.

But if God allows it, I guess we'll be learning to depend on God in ways we've never had to, just like those during the Holocaust.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:05:29 PM


rpu28

It's easy enough to determine whether we are in a warming or cooling trend - just define the measurement method and period (e.g. the average noontime temperature of the capital cities of the 100 largest countries, tabulated annually) and see if anything changes. This is good,solid data - but it covers only the blink of an eye in geologic/climatic terms. Movie stars think we're in catastrophic global warming because it was really hot in Malibu last summer; others say we are moving toward an ice age because the temperature trend has been downward for the past five years. It's quite possible that we are hurtling toward another ice age at historic speed, just as they claimed in the 1960's, but are merely undergoing a minor warming period that will last only a century or two; a warming period that will be undetectable to scientists 2000 years from now. Because the reverse is also possible, I'd prefer that we not spend a trillion dollars a year trying to prevent one trend instead of the other. Better to leave that money in the hands of those who will cure malaria or find an economical substitute for petroleum.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:05:59 PM


Ed Sackett

I once wrote a thesis on global warming. Right now, the Earth is nearing the end of a 10,000 year warming trend, and if past patterns prevail within 2,000 years will enter another mini ice age. At least once in the past, the Earth was some 14 degrees warmer than it is right now.

To put it into perspective, take the entire Earth, subtract the areas under water, both salt and fresh, subtract the polar ice caps, subtract the uninhabited/uninhabitable areas, subtract the non-industrial areas, and the area remaining that MIGHT affect the climate is really quite small.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:06:46 PM


Bogie

Rifleman has it right 100%. But then you see that the quacks are quacking - with the statement that "the earth is only about 8-10 thousand yeaars old. Ignorance is alive and well in this land.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:13:21 PM


Robert King

To Mark Alexander - If your father called from the Florida Keys this morning, it was 32 degrees FAHRENHEIT there, NOT 0 degrees Celcius. Last time I checked, Key West is still in the good 'ol, United States of America!

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:15:03 PM


crystalake

Global Warming Not. The Earth goes through Cycles & was designed to do so. By the Creator of this planet.

Our " Heavenly Father " God " & One only needs to read the greatest History book ever written to find the answers to these all important Questions. That History Book is Called the Holy Bible, KIng James verison. This Book Contains the Answers to All of Man's Questions. & Gives the Actual Age of this Planet. For Myself I Believe it as it was written. i where the word states " God Created the Earth in one day, A day in his timeing is 1000 years e then rested for 6 day's or six thousand years before he started the creation of Life.

He " God " is still in control. As he Rules The World, planets And Heaveanly bodies, IE; Moon-Sun-Stars-glaxie's. & from time to time allows man to get a glimpse of what he really created in the heaven's. As far as the Ocean's over taking the land mass &flooding it, you won't see it as he " God " Promised that the Earth would not be Flooded a second time. as it is written in his Book.

The Answers to All Life Questionn, including Health & wealth are also in that book, Perhaps if Man were actually to take the time to read it, We as a People wouldn't be in the position that we are in today. But he gave us Free will. The Choice to Follow him or the choice to follow man. Hopefully the Choice that you have taken, will lead you to the Truth.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:15:51 PM


K Johnson

Nice essay. One or two points that should always be mentioned. First, CO2 is not a pollutant, and it does have a cycle of being taken out of the air and put back in--plants breathe it as we breathe oxygen. Second, thinking that any human activity can significantly change the climate is like thinking that if everybody on Earth peed in the ocean at the same time the water temperature would rise to 98.6--or anywhere near it.

Thanks!

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:18:52 PM


Chet C

this is about as good a commentary on the subject as I've seen!

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:34:44 PM


W. Stites

While many of the major climate changers are pro-socialist, the driving force is money and greed. The "scientists" push it for grants and fame; Al Gore, George Soros and Wall Street push it for the profits from trading carbon credits (also known as the emperors new clothes); GE and other corporate backers see vast new markets in fields they control and huge tax-funded subsidies; bureaucrats push it to expand their fiefdoms and curry favor with 'the right people'; tinpot tyrants in the third world see vast fortunes from selling their country's carbon credits. But it only works with massive gov't control. Therefore, we risk being sold into the slavery of socialism for others short term greed.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:46:33 PM


Esther Mae Egan

Thank you for your letter today. It is about time someone mentions that Climate change if bigger and higher then us humans. It is controlled by God. Yes man can make some difference but in the end it is God that is in control. What I find interesting is HARRP.(I think that is how it is spelled). Man uses this machine to aim at different places around the world to control crops and humans and God says Ok if you want to mess with my creation then let me stir the pot a little more. That is why some of these disasters are worse then what puny man expected, because God gets in on the action. I really do not fear what man can and will do, because he is not God. God is the only one capable of destroying the earth, since He is the one that created it in the first place. And, I trust the Bible when it says the next time the earth will be destroyed is with fire. The first time it was with water. Gore and others like him forgot God. They have made themselves to be gods and God says "Thou shalt have no other god before me". God is not going to give His position or power to some mortal. Global warming is just like our body . If we take the temperature of our body's throughout the day it will change, but we are still in process.

I am glad I read this one and wish all would and could read it. It might settle their fears. It is not wonder God calls us sheep. We are about as intelligent as a sheep, and we will follow just about anything or any one.

Esther Mae:

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:53:26 PM


Drifter

It's alright to remember the perps at East Anglia, who were caught with their hands in the envirosocialist cookie jar. Let's not forget, however, that dozens of so-called scientists from American universities were also implicated in those purloined missives.

Who knows why the Russians blew the whistle? Maybe they were unhappy that they wern't getting enough recognition for the use of their weather stations...

Posted January 14, 2010 at 12:56:49 PM


Peter Osborne

Climate article fails to note that WATER VAPOR acfcounts for 95% of the greenhouse effect. CO2 accounts for about 4% of the greenhouse effect. Very important in deciding the best way to go, especially as we are dependent on plants recycling co2 back into the atmosphere as oxygen.....

Peter

Posted January 14, 2010 at 1:11:08 PM


Ol' Timer

Only an idiot would believe we could do ANYTHING to change the climate. Mother Nature (namely God) will regulate the temperature, and rainfall as He/She sees fit, and any other notion/idea/attempt, is foolhardy.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 1:22:30 PM


steve_the_grate

I agree 100%. the question is not if climate change will happen - it will happen at some point. The real question is if humans will be the cause of additional changes. Also, fossil feuls will run out - maybe 15 yrs or maybe 1500 years from now - either way they will be gone. So, the smart action to take is a route that allows us to have our cake and eat it too. A route that preserves our national sovereignty, reduces our dependence on foriegn oil (before it is gone), reduce the funding of terrorism by reducing oil profits to those that fund terrorism, reduce environmental impacts for all nations of the world and, best of all, allows the USA to retain a leadership role in innovation and production. How??? ----- 1)Dump the cap and Trade; 2)Review, Revise and Require Resonable Env Regs that protect the environment while also allowing corporate profits; 3)Implement a green economy that promotes innovation and rewards finding new ways of doing the old and reduces (or, better, removes) dependence on fossil feuls; 4)Impose a price structure on fossil feuls that would allow the new technologies to get a foot hold - once OPEC sees the green tech happening, they glut the market with oil long enough for investors to go away from green techs and they have what they (OPEC) wants - USA once again dependent on their oil; 5)Fund a Manhatten style project to solve biggest or most of hurdles facing all green techs - cheap and efficient feul cell, solor panels, electric production that doesn't dam rivers or create radioactive waste, wave energy, wind energy, etc... 6)Make sure that American industry and all American states are the benefactor of the results - these results will allow our factories to start production of the equipment and ship accross the world - It is a revised industrial revolution with a green twist - If America is the leader, Americans will benefit - and trust me, China is trying very hard, research it...

In addition to the above, Americans (and the world) need to follow more of the "waste not, want not" philosphy mentioned. It is just smart to do. I don't build my out house too close to my garden or drinking water well for a reason. I bet you wouldn't appreciate me taking a dump in your garden either. Take care of what you have and it will take care of you...

Use your God given talents and do what you know deep down in your gut is the correct thing to do.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 1:27:47 PM


Abu Nudnik

While I am willing to concede that the attempt to move toward political internationalism is part of what drives the anthropomorphic climate change agenda, it is far from the only one.

You mentioned that people like to be in control of their destinies and that's an important second motif. But there are more.

Don't forget the wealthy conveyor, taking gold from the haves to the have nots in the name of fixing climate change and oops! Where'd that gold go? (into a Swiss bank acct I'll guess) There's an economic motif.

Fourth: the return of the repressed religious content: "We've been bad: we will burn."

Five: Mass hysteria is a social binding mechanism which emerges in moments of economic and cultural crisis to provide a common goal. The more horrific the scenario, the more effective as a social binder.

Six: self-importance and vanity cannot be overlooked. We are weak mortals who want to feel we have, or could have, some momentous effect and things like global warming or electing the first black president are opportunities for acting out our heroic self-image.

Seven: misdirection. "I've always felt that people who were out to make the world a better place either had no problems of their own or were too cowardly to face them." That was a clip in Warren Beatty's boring movie "Reds" by novelist Henry Miller. Instead of facing real problems, they have tilted after the Climate Change windmill.

Eight: If science is to be the new religion, it must supply meaning and value (something it can not do without compromising itself). So evidence will have to be moved from the top to somewhere down the list after purpose, meaning, etc...

These are eight different motifs (there may be more) that feed into the mass hysteria/hypnosis re: the myth of anthropomorphic climate change. The nightmare scenario is, as Freud said of all dreams, overdetermined.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 1:29:11 PM


Jack Newell

Our nations "higher learning" educational system is defiantly not giving graduates their learning experience in a true academic environment, what happen to our Creators wisdom in academia.

Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

Pleasant Essay, Thank you,

As always, Praise be to God, our Creator.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 1:42:47 PM


connie

One way to help save America is to become actively involved in pressuring Congress to get out of the United Nations and their plans for Totalitarian, global government. This vision is Obama's vision for America's future. To see how you can help watch http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5525404669120383223&hl=en#

Posted January 14, 2010 at 1:44:33 PM


Paul B.

I once read in a book, "The frontiersmen" by Allen W. Eckert that at the time of the Pilgrims, it was said that a squirrel could climb a tree at the Atlantic Ocean and go from tree to tree until he came to the Mississippi River and never have to touch the ground. Trees and plants use CO2 as food and produce oxygen. Where are all those trees today?

Granted we could never replace all the missing trees. After all, where would all the cities go? They would be in the way, right? Seriously, as a retired meteorologist which in my work entailed climatology, I do have a theory of what is happening climate wise but I'm afraid it would take up more space than I'm allowed here. Simply put it's the sun making changes and not man. The arrogance of those claiming that man is the problem is in my opinion the epitome of assininity.

Regards,

Paul B.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 1:49:07 PM


Phillip F. Eisner

Once again Mark Alexander has written a outstanding essay on January 14th concerning the loss of liberty facing our country. His statement that the Obama Administration has "ursurped the banking, investment, insurance, and auto industries and is attempting to slice up the national health care sector and enact Co2 legislation to take over the industry sector" hit the nail right on the head!!!! The people in this country need to wake up before it is too late. I thank the "Good Lord" every day for Mark Alexander and Patriots like him who have the balls to stand up and speak the truth about what is going on in this country. Keep writing your essays, Sir. The country desperately needs you. I feel the tide is turning, and the "Truth Will Set Us Free"!!!!

Posted January 14, 2010 at 1:55:47 PM


Jack Newell

Our nations "higher learning" educational system is defiantly not giving graduates their learning experience in a true academic environment, what happen to our Creators wisdom in academia.

Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

Pleasant Essay, Thank you,

As always, Praise be to God, our Creator.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 1:59:18 PM


K.Tex

Great essay, as usual, Mark, but one of your "facts" bears scrutiny: CO2 has NOT increased over the past 200 years if you compare current *ICE-CORE* CO2 levels which are < 300ppm to the ICE-CORE samples of the 1800's. Now if you compare CO2 *AIR* readings from 150 years ago, many of them were > 400ppm. Bottom line: CO2 has merely fluctuated, not risen on average.

Also, isn't it convenient that many air-samples are taken from to tops of volcanoes at Mauna Loa. Volcanoes produce 700% more CO2 than humans do.

"Facts are stubborn things..."

Posted January 14, 2010 at 2:19:02 PM


C Kern

The global deep freeze being experienced this year, right after the conference on global warming in Copenhagan, is probably just God showing an arrogant humanity that they are not the cause or effect of anything in His creation.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 2:27:03 PM


TJS

Mark, be careful when using statistics taken from the global warming common knowledge.

For example, I believe the actual warming has been about half or less of what the UN IPCC and NASA has stated.

Another example is that I tend to believe theorists who say that CO2 has no additional warming effect, that our complex atmosphere is completely saturated with greenhouse gases, and adding more of any gas does absolutely nothing; changes in temperature do occur, but they are caused by solids or liquids in the atmosphere ("aerosols"), by the Sun, the orbit of Earth, by cosmic rays, etc.

In truth, mankind is fairly clueless about climate. We do have some who pretend to know, who have a fatal conceit about their knowledge, and who are eager to take control of our energy supply, our wealth, and our freedom.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 2:32:09 PM


Arthur Manning

Global warming is mostly hot air coming out of Washington D.C. When are we going to learn and understand who it is that from creation is controling all things on this planet, beginning with nature itself. ????

Posted January 14, 2010 at 2:53:16 PM


Tim Hitchcock

Man likes to think that he controls everything, including the weather. Unfortunately, he cannot control his own appetite for power and domination. How could he possibly control the weather? He should read Amos 4 and understand that God uses the weather to get our attention. I started saying that in 1981 before anyone even talked about "the climate change." It was not until 1984 that the local paper carried a front page article on the strange things happening in our weather. Soon after that, it went global. It's an age old problem called sin.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 3:07:58 PM


Arthur Manning

The current winter of 2009-2010 time frame is and has been one of the coldest in modern history sll over this globe. All caused by global warming,I'm sure. I have been here on this planet for 86+ years and globel warming is nonsense. All the current TV climate reports for the past weeks talk about cold, snow and freezing rain, and never mention global warming, when are we going to hear the truth? Global warming is a hoax perpetrated for political gain. And lets not blame it on cows, huge heards of cows have been with us since the beginning of time.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 3:08:02 PM


Jared Mayes

On climate: I have just finished reading Super Freakenomics. Everyone including the Patriot Post should read at least the part on climate. The PP position is solid but it doesn't go far enough.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 3:12:20 PM


Marcus Brown

Your "...waste not, want not..." reminds me of the admonition that my siblings and I constantly got in the 1930's: Willful waste makes woeful want."

Posted January 14, 2010 at 3:29:49 PM


Erick

I recycle, use florescents, set my temp to 68 in the winter, etc. Its amaizing how many of my liberal friends, all for the global warming crap, find it just to inconvenient to do these on there own.

I guess hypocrite is really spelled LIBRAL.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 3:54:12 PM


David Thompson

Mr. Alexander,

"However, the overriding question is not whether the climate is changing -- it is -- but why is the climate changing?" you said.

But the concept of a global temperature average is a theoretical construct, just as complex as the theory of anthropogenic (you know that the environmentalists coined that word?) global warming or climate change.

The temperature rises here; at the same time, it falls there. On the globe, there are (at least) thousands of heres and theres. To construct an average is not to add all the temps and divide by how many. And the Warmers have their own theory about how to calculate the average. It's subject to a variance, which politically motivated scientists never admit to.

If the measure of the global temperature is subject to a variance of +or- 5 degrees (a very conservative - no - minimal value), a change of 0.2 or 2.0 degrees by 2050 is no change at all.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 3:58:43 PM


Texan

Re: Paul B.

I take it the book you read was a novel. There are more tree in the United States today then there was during the time of the pilgrims. Unchecked wildfires cleared brush and weak trees and kept a healthy enough spacing between what was left that a flying squirrel would've found it difficult to go coast to coast, let alone state to state without touching the ground. Most of the great plains never saw a tree until white settlers put them their. Modern conservation practices have improved habitat to the point that most species have multipled several fold since the days of Plymouth Rock. In fact, in much of the west there are too many trees and wildfires are a constant summertime hazard. Vast areas of Yellowstone were decimated because nature groups fought against the thinning of the forest. These days precribed burns and thinning leave a much healthier landscape than the indians could ever have dreamed of. Stewardship has improved the land in spite of what the tree huggers are saying.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 4:02:15 PM


FREDO

OK. We've identified the suicide bomber and we've dicided to punish him for his act. He's gone, but if he knows before he leaves that his family will soon be joining him, he might change his mind. By family, I mean root , tree, and branch. Parents,

grandparents, aunts and uncles, cousins, siblings, and children. He must know before he pulls the trigger, he's not just killing himself. Would it work? I don't know. I do know it's unamerican, it's uncivilized, and it's unchristian and it's not

something we'd ever do, but there are regimes in

the middle east that are unamerican, unchristion, and uncivilized, who might be persuaded to follow

this road. All problems have solutions. Sometimes the solution is as bad or worse than the problem.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 4:15:19 PM


Helen Murphy

This publication or writing is informative and promotes self help about objective.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 4:26:41 PM


Lee Harris

This article says exactly what we all know is true.

Thank you for putting it in writing.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 4:31:45 PM


William D. Best

It is my understanding that based on ice core analysis that the relationship between atmospheric CO2 and temperature is that temperature is the leading indicator not the other way around, i.e. in actuality a rise in temperature causes CO2 to increase. An experiment with a can of pop in the sunlight can illustrate this.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 4:34:56 PM


Klesk

Please restrict your attacks on scientists until you educste yourself in regards to how science is conducted and how long term data is analyzed. There is no doubt that scientists are as political as any educated group, but your comments are based on opinion, not facts. Your flippant editorials are the reason I have not donated funds to your organization.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 4:56:53 PM


Roy Robb

God made the universe. He made human beings in His

own image. He Is LORD of heaven and earth and He is able to take care of this planet. He designed the way that animals and plant life supply what each needs. He controls the weather and is on His throne. Why don't we just let Him run things?

The answer: Humans are prone to desire power and we know from Lord Acton about what power does. I am glad

God is in charge.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 5:53:13 PM


rpu28

It's easy enough to determine whether we are in a warming or cooling trend - just define the measurement method and period (e.g. the average noontime temperature of the capital cities of the 100 largest countries, tabulated annually) and see if anything changes. This is good,solid data - but it covers only the blink of an eye in geologic/climatic terms. Movie stars think we're in catastrophic global warming because it was really hot in Malibu last summer; others say we are moving toward an ice age because the temperature trend has been downward for the past five years. It's quite possible that we are hurtling toward another ice age at historic speed, just as they claimed in the 1960's, but are merely undergoing a minor warming period that will last only a century or two; a warming period that will be undetectable to scientists 2000 years from now. Because the reverse is also possible, I'd prefer that we not spend a trillion dollars a year trying to prevent one trend instead of the other. Better to leave that money in the hands of those who will cure malaria or find an economical substitute for petroleum.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 6:00:39 PM


Mark C. Gerton

Mr. Alexander,

This is a great commentary; I do, however, have one question.....You apparently believe in the millions-of-years (goo-to-you)leftist nonsense; if you cannot believe Genesis, how can you believe the rest of the Bible? If God lied in the first book of the Bible, how do you know that he has NOT lied in the other books? God's Word, Mr. Alexander is either true in all it says, or true in nothing.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 6:10:02 PM

Editor's Reply:

Where in Genesis does it say how old the earth is?

Rodney Stanton

Good article.

Send it to the GOP lefty "Alarmists" McCain and Graham! Giventhier willful ignorance of the facts the last few years I douth it will wib read; but at least they should have to be forced to knowingly turn their heads

Posted January 14, 2010 at 7:05:36 PM


Chris Martinez

Mark,you stated; "Moreover, why would those scientists who insist they can predict the temperature 100 years from now, fail to predict the current cooling trend?"

How about NO ability to predict the FREEZING COLD now gripping the great State of Florida (thereby wiping out the citrus crop) with no more than a few days warning, when at that point it was evident to everyone the COLD is arriving and yet they want us to believe they can see weather 100 years into the future?

When the farmers almanac comes out and says we're going to die from over heating - then I'll take it seriously. Until then forget it.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 7:19:42 PM


W.T.Door

Don't let it escape notice that the current cold spell brought about a magical change in nomenclature. In an instant global warming became climate change. Guess the Administration was concerned that the concept that it suddenly got colder because the planet was getting hotter was going to be a hard sell thus putting in jeopardy cap-and-tax legislation.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 8:21:45 PM


Tom

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." --John Adams

Mark,

A good article, however some of your "facts" on the timing and duration of the Ice Age are a bit exaggerated. Following the Biblical model of the Earth's age (approximately 6,000 years), it is estimated that the glacial maximum was reached at "about 500 years after the [Genesis] Flood... with an average ice and snow depth of about 2,300 feet in the Northern Hemisphere and 4,000 feet on Antarctica." [http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/where-does-ice-age-fit by Michael Oard on November 22, 2007].

The best estimate of the duration of the Ice Age is based on "the average melt rate along the periphery (a 400-mile long strip) of the ice sheet in North America at about 33 feet/year. Such a melting rate compares favorably with current melt rates for the melting zones of Alaskan, Icelandic, and Norwegian glaciers today. At this rate, the periphery of the ice sheets melts in less than 100 years. Interior areas of ice sheets would melt more slowly, but the ice would be gone in about 200 years." [also from http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/where-does-ice-age-fit by Michael Oard on November 22, 2007]. Many other references could be sited.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 8:59:05 PM


HaroldtheBear

Dear Mr, Alexander- I hate to take exception to your artwork but it needs to be corrected or you risk playing into the hands of the warmermongers: Your third box makes CO2 a much larger portion of greenhouse gases than is the case (it looks to be about 10% of the total)- It appears that you have fallen for the scaremongers trick of leaving out the only actual MAJOR green house gas: Water vapor (not clouds, which is water in liquid form but rather actual gasous H2O). Water vapor is fully 98% of all greenhouse gases and provides 95% of the greenhouse gas based greenhouse effect. It really looks like you have fallen for yet another of Al Gore's tricks. Might I suggest that you adjust your third box accordingly?

Posted January 14, 2010 at 9:38:58 PM


Mark C. Gerton

Editor:

God said he created the earth in 6-literal 24=hour days. That is how it was written, and that is how it was intended to be understood. The Hebrew word "yom" (day) when accompanied by an ordinal number always is intended to mean a literal 24-hour day. I suggest you visit www.AnswersinGenesis.org for a more thorough explanation of this subject, by many individuals more qualified than I. Here is but one link out of many:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i2/creation.asp

Posted January 14, 2010 at 10:15:27 PM

Editor's Reply:

Yes, that's one possible interpretation of the Hebrew word "yom" (day), but not the only one (ask a Jew). And you still didn't answer where Genesis (or any other book) tells us how old the earth is. Where those 6 days 6,000 years ago or 6 million? The answer is: We don't know.

Adam Cassidy

Lord Monckton said it so well - the word "Government" appeared repeatedly in the Jokenhagen Treaty; the word "Election"?

Not ONCE.

This is 'Socialism' alright - NATIONAL Socialism.

Adolph Hitler is dancing a jig in Hell right now.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 10:23:46 PM


Bob

Our memories are short and our long range predictions fall even shorter. Anyone who has a half a brain can track the earths climatic changes by knowing the Earth's history. The planet has been in flux since it was formed over four and a half billion years ago. Hot, cold or temperate, it has little to do with Man(although we think we run things)and all to do with "The Planet". At one time in man's history we would be blaming this on the Gods and totally unaware that change happens on its own, listening to priests and shamens who offered sacrifices. WELL, We still are sacrificing. Our money and our way of life. We love to speculate and we love people who tell us what to do and why we should do it. After all, we're only human....LOL

Posted January 14, 2010 at 10:57:28 PM


Maarten van Swaay

From the essay on global warming, posted 14-jan-10:

" The bottom line is this: Human activity does affect the climate. Every time you exhale CO2, you increase the concentration of that minuscule greenhouse gas in the atmosphere -- but if you want to make a positive impact upon the environment, don't hold your breath. "

True, human breathing accounts for a little more than 1% of manmade CO2 emission. But the breathing comparison is misleading. What we breathe out is all recycled: it comes from the food we ate a little earlier; i.e. from carbon that was removed from the atmosphere not long before. Fossil fuels are mined; they introduce carbon into the atmosphere much faster than they are regenerated.

None of that detracts from the main thrust of a welcome article: the idea that mankind can have much effect on climate can only be called gross conceit. The total manmade contribution of carbon exchange with the atmosphere is just over 3%, and geologic history tells us that the earth has been quite capable of adapting to rising - and falling - carbon content in the atmosphere.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:06:28 PM


Tom Daniel

Excellent presentation, Mark.

The retired climatologist - 'Paul B', has it right: Its the SUN, stupid!

The pernicious charlatan - Maurice Strong - (longtime UN "employee") is the culprit who started the "Global Cooling", er, "Global Warming", er, "Climate Change" swindle as the ongoing "crisis" for implementing the long sought after goal of the International Leftist* infested UN - that being Global governance by non productive; non elected lifetime bureaucrats, elitists and "one-world-order" zealots who lust for the power to control the means of production on a 'global' scale - and make themselves rich via taxing the "carbon footprint" of mankind.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:17:15 PM


Kent Rozycki

I don't mean to be trite or even clever. But doesn't every living breathing human being emit CO2 upon exhaling? Perhaps the answer then is a reduction in the surface population. Where have I heard that before.....? All the myth of global warming has done is made Al Gore rich.

Posted January 14, 2010 at 11:45:25 PM


Frank Shipley

Here is a suggestion for a fun project: with a large piece of graph paper, set one axis as temperature, the other axis as years. Use an almanac of your choice and graph the record high and low temperatures for the part of the world you find interesting, such as for the United States, every state. See what interesting inferences you make, comparing the dots. and any lines of trend you see.

If your graph supports the global warming idea, then you may say this helps you to decide your politics. If it does not support the idea of global warming due to more people, more fuels burnt, and more exhausts emissions, or animal excreta, then another political decision might be appropriate.

By the way, since there are numerous deer and elk, more than since the "invasion" by Europeans; and reduced numbers of antelope and buffalo, can the beef and dairy cattle stand in for the absent herds of antelope and buffalo? Settlers said the herds of buffalo held up the progress of even railroad trains for days at a time. Are the methane productions similar, or not, to the past?

Posted January 15, 2010 at 2:01:16 AM


Phil Tallman

It's probable that the climate changes are controlled more by the heat source (sun) rather than anything we mere mortals can or cannot do.

Evidenced by the past ice ages and likely reoccurane of them at some future time. Certainly not a reason to waste current natural resources or throw vast fortunes at blue sky

remedies.

Posted January 15, 2010 at 7:54:14 AM


Guy L W Hardy

An explanation as to why the Yutz-in-Chief is so interested in playing Doctor (without a medical degree, even one scrawled in crayon by his daughters) is that the truth is a virus and he thinks that he can stop it.

Whatever cure the System and the Establishment think they can come up with, there can be no better cure than simple common sense.

God Bless America!

Posted January 15, 2010 at 9:07:53 AM


Roy

Good article with the exception of the fact that you apparently accept the theory of evolution. That's your mistake.

Genesis 1:1--"In the beginning..." In six 24 hour days, God created the heavens and the earth and all they contain. That answers all the questions. God is in control, always has been and always will be. There is no global warming/cooling other than what God allows. The problem is mankind turning its back on God. And that's the problem with our country.

Posted January 15, 2010 at 9:54:41 AM

Editor's Reply:

Believing that the earth is old isn't the same thing as believing evolution. Many Christians believe, with good reason, that the earth really is as old as it appears to be, and that God, who is timeless, created it a really long time ago.

Andy Mount

Great article.

What I find as well is that while the global warming people continue to spell gloom and doom on the world about the effects, other than higher sea levels, they are pretty sketchy about what ill effects warming will have on the worlds populations.

I don't agree with many that the effects will be all bad. In fact the warming period that you mentioned about 10,000 years ago allowed the Vikings to populate and plant crops on Greenland. In addition some studies have pointed to lower mortality rates given the IPCC level of warming. See; http://www.stanford.edu/~moore/HealthAmenity.html

A recent conversation with a fishing captain that I know in Florida has him concerned with the temperatures there in that the much lower temps may cause a fish kill in southwestern Florida. Much of the citrus crops in Florida have been wiped out by this freeze. I'm not liking this cold right now.

Posted January 15, 2010 at 10:44:34 AM


Pete R

The pictograph in Mark's Essay is priceless when explaining the facts of Anthroprgenic CO2 contribution to the atmosphere to my children. Thanks.

I have desired a similar relationship pictograph of the size of land requested to drill in ANWAR vs Alaska vs Contentintal United States, if you have or know of one.

Posted January 15, 2010 at 11:17:04 AM


Bill Hummel

If CO2 is 60% heavier than air, how can it go up to form a greenhouse affect???????????

Posted January 15, 2010 at 12:23:47 PM


Dave C

I believe all that political nonsense is what is ruining the climate. I suddenly think the huge heap of Bull s--t about global warming is causing more CO2 than any other possible source .Makes as much sense as their explanations.

It is all about a group of extreme control maniacs with nothing else to do, trying to gain control the the rest of us.

Posted January 15, 2010 at 4:07:46 PM


Dave C

And sorry I forgot to say that was a great article ,good job.

Posted January 15, 2010 at 4:13:41 PM


Don Montierth

The premise of the global warming alarmists is that we humans are the cause of climate change, and the culprit is carbon dioxide. The historical record of carbon dioxide in the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets, over hundreds of thousands of years, shows that the carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere lags behind temperature trends. If carbon dioxide is the cause of climate change today, why does it follow climate change in this historical record? This question is never addressed by the so-called scientific consensus. It is just an inconvenient truth for them. I'm a believer in the scientific process, but I will never be a believer in anthropogenic climate change until this cause and effect is adequately explained.

Posted January 15, 2010 at 5:25:56 PM


Bill in Ohio

The enviros still won't let go of their "CO2-causes-man-made-global-warming" mullarkey but the fact is that CO2, in actual density, is one and one-half times the weight of an equal volume of air; it settles to earth. Methane is a greenhouse gas but is beyond man's control, occurring naturally as well as being produced by millions of flatulent animals -- both wild and domestic. CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. Besides, we exhale CO2 when we breathe; what do the enviros have to say about that?

Posted January 15, 2010 at 5:27:58 PM


Stuart

In addition to the uncertainties about the science, please recognize that the temperature records themselves are highly questionable. Old temperatures get adjusted downwards, current measures include urban heating effects which are not removed, stations in cold locations get closed, removing low numbers from the current data.

The temperature data are uncertain, the climate is a chaotic system, and the earth has passed through extremes of heat and cold in the past without succumbing to runaway trends. But many seem willing to sacrifice civilization to appease a mythical earth god. If we only had some virgins, we could throw them into the volcano...

Posted January 15, 2010 at 7:37:16 PM


Don A

Yes we have the glaciers melting, polar ice etc. what ever we do won't change it. Our time and money would be better spent on what we are going to do when it happens.

Posted January 15, 2010 at 10:56:54 PM


Brianpeter

A very interesting article, concise and to the point.

Thank you, there is however one point that is never mentioned enough when discussing the weather and controling it, and that is the butterly effect this is the reason that science will never be able to controle the weather, Heat and cold are what causes weather shifts whenever the two meet.

So back to the global warming scineario it is a natrual occurence of our world

Posted January 15, 2010 at 11:40:05 PM


Carol

There is only one person in control of climate -- God!

Posted January 16, 2010 at 11:34:49 AM


Karel Lea Biggs

Great post - and as a science teacher, I couldn't agree more. Here's an idea (sure to irritate the enviro nuts who think conservatives want to destroy nature) - feel guilty about exhaling all that carbon dioxide? Plant some more trees! Plant shrubs, flowers, grass! Make your yard beautiful! After all, as even my 7th graders know, without CO2 for the plants to use, we wouldn't have any oxygen! The more plants we have to take in CO2, the more oxygen we get! Isn't nature beautiful!?

Posted January 17, 2010 at 12:09:49 PM


S Ralston

Amen. Lets be real here folks, the talk of changes we must make according to the alarmist community, all amount to, give them the power & money to run everything, and they will make it all alright!

Bunk!

Its time this scam is exposed as the political power grab it really is. Shamefully, Al Gore, a former Vice President of this great nation, is among those seeking to exploit mankind, obtain wealth through this scam, and secure power over others or all to be exact.

Mr. Gore.... I know you resent not being elected president. I am told you felt you were groomed your entire life for the position. Well, too bad. The people, those who pay the taxes, die in wars, and actually run the show despite all attempts by socialists to the contrary, decided you were not capable to hold such a position & all of your activities since then only prove the people of this great nation knew exactly what they were doing.

Guess you should try to come to realize that that means, the people really are much more intelligent than you give them credit for, huh??!!

Posted January 17, 2010 at 11:07:05 PM


David Kilpatrick

Do you have any actual evidence that there was a scientific consensus of global cooling in the 70's? Don't interpret my question as doubt but articles in Time and Newsweek do not make the case for any global cooling "scare".

Feel free to respond offline. I do not need to see this in print.

Posted January 18, 2010 at 8:11:03 AM


J. B. Smith

I totally agree! If you are interested in an alternative logic for Arctic ice thinning, carefully study the National Geographic May 2009 article, Arctic Landgrab. Several references are made in the text and inserted map of recently discovered volcanic and other geothermal activity along the Gakkel Ridge between the very deep Nansen and Amundesen Basins. Any objective student of Physics would easily recognize the potential for great plumbs of heated water rising toward the ice cap and fanning out to the reaches of the thinner ice of the continental shelves. Think the editors of the liberal media would consider this politically incorrect concept? No, I submitted a response to their Letters Department, which apparently was trashed.

Posted January 18, 2010 at 8:39:15 AM


ClimatologistPhD

This is right on the money. As a professional climatologist, I called out Gore and company back in Kyoto 1997 for this political farce. i have challenged supposed scentists to prove their data and knew the rat will then come out sooner or later to prove that the lies are unfolding and their leftist leaning media lap dogs shall fail to report the real truth.

To get the Weather Channel (Founded by Dr. John Coleman an esteemed friend on mine and Gobal Warming fraud expert) and National Geographic to just name a few to spread the lies of Gore and Company is shameful and tosses out any notion of common sense that God and Mother Nature are in charge and not humans inasmuch as solar flaring, weather, and carbon emissions. Their notion of this Global Hoax is likened to putting butter on a burn as a cure.

Computers are machines that feed data in need to capture and create scenarios that only humans, most with leftist agendas, can program. Thus skewed numbers, facts, and figures that Gore, the idiot and snake oil salesmen he is, used to tout his lies in a movie that is full of BS. In fact his movie should be labeled a big user of their liberal laced carbon footprint with the amount of methane used to deliever their lies.

Gore refuses to even challenge us who call out his assertions as the mere lies and treachery they are. He is a global pirate incapable of seeing the truth in face value. His cowardice in not debating this issue with real facts against a growing clientelle of esteemed globally renowned scientists will only reduce him to a no nothing marxist liberal he truly is. Moreover Gore, as an enterprising scam artist and "Green Marxist" will bilk trillions of our taxpayer dollars better used to assist humanity than line his pockets with socialist wealth.

Common sense needs to reappear and fast.

Posted January 18, 2010 at 11:39:32 AM


Texan

With science working overtime to disprove creation this is the fun part where they unwittingly disprove science. There is nothing more oxymoronical than "scientific consensus" and nothing more disproves science as fact than climatology and their claims surrounding global warming/global cooling/climate change. Science is nothing more than mankind trying to understand creation. Too bad the scientists have bought in scientific theory so deeply that, to them, science is religion. At least the Haitians only practice voodoo.

Posted January 18, 2010 at 5:24:31 PM


richard

The fact that God is timeless is not relevant to the summation of time recorded in the Bible. Please stick to current politics without quoting questionable "science".

Posted January 19, 2010 at 8:01:35 PM


Wednesday

Thank you. This issue calls to mind "The Emperor's New Clothes" meets sound bytes, a complex issue addressed by pack mentality, commercial ventures and manipulative political platforms (no matter how inaccurate or inappropriate).

So, "The Emperor's New Clothes" he'll need a sweater.

Posted January 20, 2010 at 12:44:53 AM


Dave

I am a gas expert you could say. I have been teaching mixed gas diving for 15 years and have a scientific complete understanding of the atmosphere we breath it could be deadly if I don't get it right in this profession. When I explain how small the percentage that co2 is in the atmosphere and recite the last ice age stats to my friends, fellow workers and associates they look like their brains are short circuiting because of the contrast of the public dissemination of information on this is below high school level and it seems to be a de-education process they are implementing. What you so eloquently wrote here is in so many words is exactly what I have been advocating for about ten or more years since this bunch of lies started.Keep up the education of the masses of de-educated idiots.

Posted January 20, 2010 at 8:21:45 AM


Don Hagler

Absolutely clear and best summary of the facts yet. Your dimishing chart-squares illustration says it all. Congratulations.

Posted January 21, 2010 at 6:17:48 PM


Charles Sproull

"Global Warming" - science or political propaganda?

From studying a wide spectrum of sciences in 2 colleges for 5 years, and measuring the various processes within and beneath the ocean surface as an Oceanographer for 9 years, I believe the combined effects of sun light and ocean surface temperature are the major cause of all atmospheric conditions. Since about 75% of Earth's surface is ocean water, what happens to the atmosphere as it across over the ocean surface has more influence on our climate than what happens as it blows over the 25% land.

According to information in IMPRIMIS (Hillsdale College publication Aug 2007, Vol 36 #8) and other honest scientific studies (including Dendrochronology - study of tree rings in very old trees), our climate may be slowly warming up as a result of natural periodic changes inside the earth that cause slight long-term variations in oceanic and atmospheric temperatures. This has been going on for centuries - so no big deal. In fact, real science has shown long-term minor temperature increases in some areas of the world and decreases in other parts.

I believe long-term climate changes are influenced mostly by the following process: long-term rise and fall of transfer of heat from the intensely-hot molten magma currents inside the earth, through the relatively thin tectonic plates that form the ocean bottoms, into the deep ocean water masses, through circulation from the deep to shallow, and finally to the surface where it contacts the atmosphere.

If ocean surface temperatures are slowly warming from the combined effects of rising internal temperatures and increased sunlight (decreased sun spots), then the wind would carry a warmer climate to the land masses. Even if the atmosphere over the land masses is being heated up by man-made CO2, (like massive harvesting lumber from trees in rain forests, driving gas-fueled cars and trucks, power plants burning coal, incinerators, and raising cattle) that is only a small contribution to the global climate.

Furthermore I believe that volcanoes and forest fires put more carbon into the atmosphere and affect global temperatures and climates more than any man-made sources, and therefore they should be charged more carbon taxes.

During the "Ice Age," when glaciers were covering parts of North America, global temperatures could have been 60 degrees (F) cooler than they are now. And mankind didn't have any influence on the global warming from that age.

Also, I believe it is un-scientific (dishonest political propaganda) when people look at glaciers that appear to be receding, and attribute that to man-made global warming. They are not considering the long-term phase of formation of that particular glacier. The lower end of that glacier was formed at a higher elevation many hundreds of years earlier. If, for example during a 30-year period, the precipitation on that mountain gradually reduced and resulted in a gradual thinning of that portion of the glacier, and it slowly flowed to its present location at the lower (warmer) end of the valley, then even if the climate and atmospheric temperature remained the same, the end of that thinned portion of the glacier would slowly melt and appear to recede up the valley. I don't know of any studies that have taken that possibility into consideration. If you know of any, please let me know.

Therefore, I believe that global warming activists are "FULL OF HOT AIR," and there to be a better political climate in America if they would just "COOL IT."

Chuck Sproull, Springville IN

Posted February 9, 2010 at 12:46:38 PM


Emcee

Mr. Alexander: Regarding your previous question to me as to where in the Bible does it say that the earth is not millions of years old: Add up the years of the ages of the people listed in the genealogies, and you will discover that the earth is young. The genealogies are complete, and contain no gaps, despite the views of some who say so. And if you refuse to believe the genealogies, then you are basically accusing God of giving us incomplete and/or incorrect information, which makes absolutely no sense for a Perfect, Omnipotent, and Holy God to do, and/or thus suggesting that Almighty God is incapable of having men record the correct information for us, and also incapable of keeping His Word uncorrupted. Scripture tells us that God "breathed-out" (Greek: Theopneustos) His Word to the people He had chosen to record it. [2 Timothy 3:16,17.] Paul was specifically referring to the Old Testament when he wrote this. I suggest that you stop compromising God's Word with the words of fallible and sinful men. Science cannot contradict or be superior to God's Word, since God is the author of both. Romans 3:4 "...Rather, let God be found true, though every man be found a liar, as it is written, " THAT YOU MAY BE JUSTIFIED IN YOUR WORDS, AND PREVAIL WHEN YOU ARE JUDGED."

Posted September 10, 2011 at 5:33:43 PM


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