I was in the US NAVY 1969-1975..During my tour of duty...We are given a scenario of possible US Military involvement in California should the need arise...to assist with Terrorist Threats...

Have things really changed that much? Yes we do need to be aware of this when it comes up...It's not any more desireable now than it was in 1970..The Government should always be "watched" with a discerning and watchful eye...I do agree we are today in a much more dangerous time than I've seen in my lifetime..I've never seen people scrambling for guns and ammo with such purpose in my life either..

The 194th Armor Brigade is a unit for Basic training for tankers and Cav Scouts at Knox. Until a Brigade of 1st Infantry Division is stood up, there will not be any combat units at Ft. Knox.

Should this scenario actually occur; it would be islamsists protesting, not tea party advocates. If the exercise scenario were islamists, they would never hear the end of it. So the only politically correct excuse for such an exercise is to defend the country from true patriots; the tea party folks.

You can't blame the military; they can't come up with a real scenario, like defending America against islam.

This is absolutely egregious. To suggest that freedom loving Americans are terrorists is certainly not the view of men and women serving in our armed forces, most of whom consider themselves Conservatives and sympathize with Tea Party Patriots. I don't recall tale of military exercises combatting militant Wiccans, radical leftists, or Chicago political mobsters. It is extremely upsetting that this exercise was upheld by the officers on base, and I commend the soldiers willing to step up and call it what it is - wrong.

Aghast, I am. I can only imagine if the tables were turned for say, the 10,000 man march (falsely named million man march). Republicans homes would have been burned to the ground and riots ensued.

The double standard becomes ever more clear and would be pathetic if it were not so threatening.

I hope your message is spread far and wide. It will only serve to wake more decent people up to what is really going on in the mind of the current resident of the White House and bring more "hope and change" - the good kind this time.

They (Dems) are going to be --SO voted out of office..

How can they be so rediculous and still claim to be intelligent?

It is beyond my comprehension that such an exercise actually took place. My heart shrunk in my chest as I read the verbage used to describe those who are saddened and outraged at what is happening to their country. I have not attended a Tea-Party rally up to this point but I am reconsidering my tendency to watch from the sidelines.

Whatever happened to "Centralia" as the antagonist in training exercises? (in my day Centralia was our perennial enemy)

Regardless of the contents of their gun safe at home, TEA party folks bring strollers, babies, and water bottles to their events. Not alcohol and firearms....So, the premise of the training exercise is flawed from the start.

HOWEVER...comma...it is dangerous, dangerous in the extreme to let this go unanswered.

I submit that our national(ist) government is a greater threat to our lives and liberty than any terrorist, more so than any banker...though, to paraphrase Jefferson, the central bank does make the list of threats to national security.

Things are moving in a terrifying direction. I worry for the future of my children.

Our country is going stark raving mad. The man who occupies the White House must be brought before this nation to answer to this.

Judging by recent comments by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, your cited stupidity relating to alert at Fort Knox could have originated with him.

I have been to a few tea party events, and have never, ever witnessed behavior that even approached being offensive, illegal, or threatening.

I fear that we have reached a point in American history where restoration of lawful government can only come about when those officials who take their oath to uphold the Constitution seriously will realize that overt, physical action to remove the illegal and unlawful regime is the only recourse left. Yes, I realize that this posits at best a military coup and and could lead to civil war as the anti-American, anti-rule of law crowd that has occupied positions of power for far too long take to the streets or seek to play military factions against one another, but we are sadly at an end of legal government.

The overwhelming power of the government and its agencies precludes anything other than a military coup from restoring constitutional government.

That is only my opinion, but I find it being shared by many, in and out of government. Remember, I am not advocating treason or insurrection, only restoration of constitutional government.

This article is intriguing and scary, and sadly, unsurprising. Obama's enemies are not the militant Islamists (Hassan types), socialists and illegals: they are the ordinary, responsible, independent, self-reliant, hard-working people, who are the back-bone of America. Obama is quite clearly intimidated by such people. They are a threat to his socialist agenda, which can be accomplished only by the construction of a dependent class of citizens. I trust our citizen soldiers, but I must admit to being a little concerned about some of their politically oriented commanders. The Obama administration has already demonstrated a willingness to bribe anyone essential to their agenda. I fear this could easily be done with top Pentagon officials and others.

Another example of a serious but common fault with a peace time military - careerism. The lack of protest by field grade officers is indicative to me, like the failure of superior officers to curtail the Fort Hodd assissin, that career pathing is more important to peace time officers than any oath to defend their country/constitution.

The reasons are obvious - political control of the military includes political control of promotion and assignment of these same officers.

After reading this, my concern is that someone will lash out in anger in an "I'll show you" temper tantrum. It's almost as if we are being egged on to actually do something stupid.

I feel as if I am in a high school history book and this is the story of "The Man Who Would Be King" and how he killed off or banished all who opposed him. I can honestly say I am scared for the life of this country. May God help us all.

As a retired Army Judge Advocate officer, I am completely dumfounded! First, my observation about "Tea Party" participants is that they are peaceful Americas exercising their First Amendment rights. There is no evidence of violence in their demonstrations to support the so-called "intel". Second, to deliberately involve the military in such blatantly political maneuvering is itself unconstitutional.

Every military installation has contingency plans to deal with violence, including terrorist incidents. In some instances, such plans should be revised and updated. But identifying a group whose record is clearly peaceful as a viable threat is in the minimum politically motivated.

As an Army officer, I have confidence that the military commanders will see this nonsense from the Obama Administration for what it is, pure politics. And they will avoid it.

So let me get this sraight. The Obama admisistration is not worried about the criminals that cross our borders every day but is worried about peaceful deminstrations the disagree with his political views.

It is time for all patriots to join together to through these traitors out of office.

Next will be the Obama regime's version of the Reichstag fire, to justify deploying the troops and "detaining" dissidents. What form will it take?

I pray that we have someone on the inside to warn us at the appropriate time, because once it starts it may be too late for anything but guerilla warfare against our own. Exposed ahead of time, we might be spared the agony of being forced to become the terrorists that they depict.

Please Lord, let this cup pass, but Your will be done.

Military officers and Noncoms are not required to follow all orders. They are required to follow all LAWFUL orders based on the constitution they swore to defend.

If our officers are so weak or stupid that they can't or won't distinguish between lawful and unlawful orders then it is a very good thing that US citizens are preparing to saddle up.

Just a thought, for the majority of our military, these very same citizens that are being categorized as terrorists by the Leftists are our soldiers mothers, fathers, grandparents, sisters, brother, cousins.

This illegitimate administration would have our military turn on its own family/citizens. When will the insanity that is the Obama administration going to end? Or the better question might be, when are 'We the People' finally going to go after our domestic enemies?

And I'm not referring to the ballot box alone. At what point in time will our military and other leaders actually turn around and institute the very protections enumerated in our Constitution they swore to uphold, protect and defend???

And yet was anything done concerning the protesters in Arizona who were far more violent than any Tea Party has ever been??? Our President is proving that he is adept only at abusing his power. I would never in a million years have figured our country could go down so quickly.

I served as an enlisted soldier in an Intelligence Unit for approximately 6 months at Ft Meade MD during 1973. Meade was a major piece for defense of the Military District Washington (MDW) for the anti-Vietnam war protests.

During this time my unit was proscribed from gathering or doing anything domestically regarding the protests by an Executive Order issued by Nixon. That order should still exist.

This is a very frightening development when the federal government (obama admin) views the citizens as likely enemies.

My concern with these directives from the Executive Branch to our military about Tea Party patriots being labeled as domestic terrorists can lead to agressive action against peaceful demonstrators by the military at this event. It would only take a small group of infiltrators to cause a panic.

Look to a true Constitutional Congress to have thenm review and repeal most or all of the Executive and or Presidentiual Orders issued that paved the way for the great Imposter to circumevent the Supreme Law of the Land, Our Constitution. Without those deliberate weakening 'Orders' by mis informed and compliant Presidents past, the constitution would reign supreme. These Orders were in all reality created by the Council on Foreign Relations an arm of the "Secret Government" that has been spoken of by past Presidents up to {resiodent Ronald Reagan. Reagan was informed that in order to get anything accomplished he would have to fill his administration with Members of the CFR. The Bilderberg exists and has had many Presidents and advisors (Henry Kissinger) within their membership. They are an International Org. with ties to the Rothschilds. The Federal Reserve is part of this cartel. George Soros want to be the new leader of the New World Order that formed the E.U. and has plans for the N.American Union.

I'm a retired Navy LCDR and conservative Republican running for Congress in WA-8. Obama is the single greatest threat to our national security and must be immediately arrested and jailed, along with his gang, for massive criminality. We're talking ourselves to death.

Here is my website: http://elect.ErnestHuberForCongress.com/

Here is my YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnYLuNlgfFs

The political implications of the military exercises at Fort Know are horrifying. What are the legal implications? Would Posse Comitatus preclude or allow such actions if this nightmare became reality?

Have they not heard of the Oath Keepers? The Constitution forbids our military from being used against our nations own citizens. Not that it hasn't been done in the past, but it is unconstitutional.

Look to a true Constitutional Congress to have them review and Repeal most or all of the Executive and or Presidentiual Orders issued that paved the way for the 'Great Imposter' to circumevent the Supreme Law of the Land, Our Constitution. Without those deliberate weakening 'Orders' by mis-Informed and compliant Presidents past, the Constitution would reign supreme as it was meant. These 'Orders' were in all reality, created by the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), an arm of the "Secret Government" that has been spoken of, by past Presidents up to President Ronald Reagan. Reagan was informed that in order to get anything accomplished he would have to Fill his Administration with Members of the CFR. The Bilderberg exists and has had many Presidents and Advisors (i.e. Henry Kissinger) within their membership. They are an devious International Org. with Direct Ties to the Rothschilds Banking Regime. The Federal Reserve is part of this cartel. Socialist/Communist George Soros wants to be the New Leader of the NEW WORLD ORDER that formed the E.U. and has plans for the N.American Union. G.W.Bush signed, In Secret, the IPP Treaty that not only gives authority to Foreign Forces upon US Soils (if called by the President), but seeks to Remove All Borders between the USA, Mexico and Canada. This is why they are pushing the Amnesty Bill for ALL ILLEGALS! Clinton gave title to lands surrounding our National Parks and most Rivers and Tributaries to the U.N. ! Clinto gave up an Island off of Alaska to the Russians! Now a Spy Base. Why? WAKE UP AMERICA. Now they are attacking the TEA PARTY!

Thanks for your reporting on the military planning. Sounds Like Janet N. and Janet Reno have a lot in common.

Perhaps it is time for Tea Party activists to

1) obtain rights to "We shall overcome" to sing and

2) learn the techniques of peaceful sit-ins.

You might also want to offer a "Remember Tiananmen Square" T-shirt (photo of the single person standing in front of a tank).

Concur with the comment on "Centralia". Having written exercises in the past, I can say that we never used the names of real world groups especially if they were American citizens. That would raise the possibility that we might be collecting intel on these groups, which is forbidden. Such collection would violate Executive Order 12333 and Army Regulation 381-10. EO 12333 has at its roots an executive order written by President Ford, and each President since has re-issued this Executive Order.

Very poor judgment.

Mr. Culp is correct. Posse Comitatus would prevent the military from engaging in law enforcement. However, that would not apply once on the installation. The military would be able to defend a military base against intrusion/attack. Signs on the installation warn anyone entering that their vehicle is subject to search, for example.

This exercise scenario was unwarranted propaganda. I can't believe it made it through the staffing process. TEA Party participants are being equated with terrorists training in compounds like Al Qaeda or nuts like David Koresh !?! That not in the TEA Party agenda.

The Services have a long history of non-partisanship and it’s considered poor etiquette to bring your political leanings to work (save it for the bar). I find the scenario offensive as both a retired officer and a citizen.

Playing devil’s advocate for the Army’s war-game, I do feel like a storm is coming. The great polarizer and power grabber, King O, does make me very security conscience. The rights of the States and the people are being whittled away slowly as Federal powers grow.

It is for this very reason our founding fathers saw necessary to craft the Second Amendment to the Constitution ensuring “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

The term “Militia” was not used to define the armed forces. A militia is the formation of citizens to protect themselves from their own government to secure a “free State.” I’m not advocating violence, but I will be prepared.

Hmmm..... The Safest State of the Art Off Shore Oil Rig mysteriously Explodes just after the Great Imposter proclaimed his Green Light to Off Shore Drilling ????? Now Gulf and Ocean States are moving to stop it. Just like he planned? Hillary Clinton Sec of State, (who occupies a position outlawed by the US Constitution that prohibits any Member of the House of Reps. from taking a position in Gov. on which they created or voted to increase the salary of) has signed a U.N. Treaty to Outlaw Gun Ownership by Civilians. And for all of these Anti-USA actions, the Great Imposter was given the Nobel Prize by a group of Known Socialist/Communists in Denmark. Ain't Life Grand?

A coiled snake with the slogan "Don't step on me" represents this WWII U.S. Marine veteran's attitude on what's now happening in America. There were 16 million of us serving in the U.S. armed forces during WWII, tnere are now just 1.8 million of us left and we are passing away at the rate of 1,400 every day. Next year it will be more than 2,00 each day. I am absolutely pissed... the America that we WWII veterans faught for is being destroyed! If we WWII veterans were still 16 million strong, we absolutely wound not permit the destruction of our beloved nation. Those Washington bastards would have to fight us... we would clobber them as we did in savage combat with Germany and Japan.

I continue to say this same thing - when will someone start the impeachment, or better yet the Arrest, of the president and of the Congress who are our true internal enemies? It is becoming too late - too soon. These actions need to be done now. If not, the government has the means and ways to eliminate all protest and all constitutional freedoms.

We should find out what steps can be taken and these steps need to begin immediately.

Never in my life have I seen an administration that labeled Tea Party activists as terrorists. I am afraid of the agenda Obama has in store for us. To have the military prepare to use deadly force against the citizens is something you would see from Iran or China, or for that matter any communist controlled country. But there is a problem here, we the people are not disarmed, yet. That is coming with the U.N small arms treaty. Mr.Obama will not need to make the order to confiscate our weapons. The U.N will do that and their orders will followed by Congress. Our only hope is that the military will obey their oath of office to our constitution as it appears our Constitution, rule of law our Bill of Rights and sovereignty are under attack. I fear we are in great danger of having all our rights removed.

That these types of political lies and trickery could be seen actually happening in the military in the U.S. and be entirely caused by a Marxist president pushing to blame the Tea Parties for rightly protesting his vicious financial policies, is a crime of epic proportions.

The "army" is so busy being politically correct, kissing the muslims butts et al.....you think they for one minute are going to "protect and serve" the people of the United States? They will go blindly wherever that muslim in the white house tells them, they will do whatever he says...honor, truth, patriotism and all aside.......The Army has never in my opinion been a great bastion of virtue, but they ought to be ashamed.....!!imo

Thank you Sir for standing in the gap against this obvious AntiChrist movement occurring in our nation today. How can I as a christian patriot stop this evil without compromising my faith? All I do is pray and hope and vote. Does the Lord expect me to do more I wonder?

You may remember about 20 years ago, when the scenario addressed the "legal" confiscation of firearms from citizens. Special Operations people were given a hypothetical situation of individually-owned firearms having been outlawed by Congress, signed into law by the president. The Special Operations Command (SOCOM) operatives were asked a series of feasibility questions, including one along the lines of, "Would you advocate the use of deadly force to execute this directive?"

The citizens had been named as potential enemies of the state by their refusal to comply with "the law."

To re-state: it was a hypothetical situation, but a portion of the military had been identified as the potential enforcers of the directive that all firearms be turned in or forcibly confiscated.

The results of this survey were never made public, possibly because the responses made the higher-ups nervous. The SOCOM operatives did not advocate the use of "deadly force" in this situation.

There are some orders that must not be obeyed, must be questioned, must require specific definition. As a young soldier, I learned this, and as a senior officer I taught this.

It may again be time to re-address this principle.

Keep up the fire!

OathKeepers dot org

There are enough out there, and in the correct positions to keep this from ever getting out of hand. If not, there will be a lot less once it's finished.

Just remember, there is no wrath like a woman scorned...and this woman (Lady Liberty) is getting pissed like never before.

Someone stated previously that the military is comprised of 50% leftists and 50% conservatives. I beg to differ. We have a fully volunteer military and very few leftists sign up for the military. I also have serious doubts, being a former Army man, that the people in the military would, even under orders, fire on their own people. If I were in the military and saw a fellow serviceman/woman readying to fire on civilians, they would have to shoot me first. I just don't believe there are many that could make themselves do it. Obama is going to learn what tea party members are all about, hopefully before anyone gets crazy. Obama and team are doing all the "pot stirring" if you check it, not tea party Americans. He has lied about alcohol and guns being at the Tea Parties. There is nothing he won't do to keep the far left in power. God Bless America and all true Americans.

In my 30 years of active duty US Army including four tours at Fort Bragg I have never heard of anything so bizarre. This could not happen without the knowledge and approval of the chain of command in the army I knew.

I think you shoud check your sources on this.

Ellietson "Sam" Rogers Colonel US Army (Ret)

If ever the American military is ever deployed against Americans who are peacefully petitioning their government, I venture to predict that they will stand down and mutiny. They would not take any offensive action and will view such orders as egregiously immoral and illegal. In fact,any order by the Commander and Chief to take steps that place Americans in such danger will backfire is such a way that we will se a Seven Days in May Senario play out.

I have a novel idea...Why not train the Army to protect our borders. Yeah I know Possecomatatus ect. But that was written before, When aliens actually followed the laws and tried to become citizens the honest way. I guess we aged, ex-veterans who truly love our families and our country pose a greater threat...By the way, I haven't had a drink in 18 years, and my aim is just as steady as it's always been.

Don't be too shocked...Remember the story last year, the 10th Mtn. and Canadian troops were traing to quell any domestic "up-rising"

As stated above, normally, during military exercises, we use make-believe countries, names, capabilities, etc. Not this time. The TEA Party organization is identified by name. And members are portrayed as drunken, violent, domestic terrorists with a training compound like the Branch Davidians.

I have to wonder if using the proper name was a staff officer blunder or an ingenious tactic. To discredit the TEA Party movement, those who want to give the government more control must demonize its members. That way, others are discouraged to attend for fear of being labeled “terrorists” or “right-wingnuts.” Another clever tactic might be to “leak” information that the U.S. Army is preparing for civil unrest and public enemy number one is the TEA Party. Who wants to mess with the world’s greatest fighting force? Better to disband than meet the Army head on. I’m skeptical (and pissed).

Wow. Planning forceful suppression of peaceful dissent. Or at least trying to the ire of the military against peacefully demonstrating citizens, assuming the demonstrations are in fact real. This really is a bona fide extra-constitutional power grab. When Obama got elected, I thought "give the guy a chance. Maybe it won't be as dire as I made it out to be." He has far exceeded my worst fears of November 2008 and February 2009. When he was lamenting the Constitutional limitations of Fed power in that 2001 (?) Chicago radio interview, he wasn't just whistling "Dixie," he really does lament and resent the limiting language in the Constitution in toto. Maybe he pictures hinmself as a François-Dominique Toussaint L'Ouverture.

This problem is indicative of why the draft needs to be re-established. The military complex needs to have the same dissension inside, that we(draftee's), had during the Viet Nam era. I'm sure that we had an impact on keeping the military leaders from going overboard.There is also the fact that Blackwater security is licensed in all 50 states and they are after all, a mercinary organization motivated by money alone, and number in the tens of thousands. Obama and his regime's agenda is the take over of the U.S. by whatever means necessary, to which, he is assualting us on numerous fronts. The Tea Party, Police, former and current veterans and any other patriot that believes in the constitution being the basis for the rule of law, are all considered to be potential terrorist by the 'REGIME' and they are scared to death of us. The 'CONTROLLERS' will do anything it takes to keep there power, and I pray the American people will wake up and stop them from completing the New Wolrd order of socialist slaves that they would make of us. The Bildeberg's do exist and this is part of their agenda as well. WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE IT"S TO LATE. These people ought to be arrested and tried for treason.

Is this for real? God help us if it is! God save us and God save America. Are we ready to stand for America and the Constitution? Are we ready to be imprisoned if necessary?

I think all of us ought to hang a tea bag on the back of our cars, in the rear windows, so that the army and the Washington malcontents can easily identify us.

Kristy, you should NOT under any circumstances allow yourself to be taken away for who you are and what you believe. The lessons of history are very clear on that account. Here's a stark piece of reality: it is no exaggeration to say that the same ideas that have animated the 20th century’s worst mass murderers now have a happy home in the White House. Obama and his minders are worshippers in the same pew as Stalin, Castro, Mao, Chavez and Pol Pot. They all bow before the same altar of human sacrifice and power for power’s sake.

That's who we're dealing with today and that’s the pedigree of their ideas. The Constitution and the rule of law are just so much toilet paper to those who would rule us now. Our values – honor, duty, love of family, love of country, reverence for our Creator - are punch lines to sneering jokes told by smug ‘progressive’ late night TV show hosts to applauding audiences.

It's not about the money. Don't believe that for a moment. Money’s just a means to the end. To what end? George Orwell told us long ago in his classic 1984:

'...The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power... We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites.’

‘The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it.’

‘Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.’

The object of persecution is persecution.

The object of torture is torture.

The object of power is power. '

So we are now in the endgame of Antonio Gramsci’s and Saul Alinsky's heirs and disciples. These are the murderous great-great-great-great-grandchildren of the French Revolution, cold-eyed with contempt for you and yours; spiral-eyed crazy with hate for what you believe in and they possessed of that utterly unappeasable appetite for controlling mankind.

Just as Hitler was completely candid in "Mein Kampf" about what he intended to do with Germany, the Jews and the world, so the Progressive Left has been completely up front about where they intend to take America, how they've planned to do it and what they're going to do once they get there.

So, when it comes to the Constitution and rule of law, it’s only a game - and when they're tired of it, they’ll not only sweep the pieces off the board, they’ll upend the table and put a bullet in you while they’re at it. As far as so-called 'progressives' are concerned, rules are for losers and history - god-awful bloody history - is my witness.

If you do not own a firearm, get one and learn how to use it. Don't go down without a fight. Make the monsters pay.

This is Provocation pure and simple.

Lies about this movement are insufficient for the purpose afoot.

Some element within it must be found which can be provoked to act in a manner which then proves the lie.

That's when things will get interesting and Tyranny will have a whole new and enormously useful "crisis" to work with.

This does not surprise me at all. I am of the opinion that the real enemy is the Obama and his government but he is not starting this. I feel that these plans to destroy America from the inside have been underway for many years and those behind the scenes felt Obama was the right point man. The fact that they may have underestimated the will of the American people is the root of why they are working so very hard to portray the Tea Party members as enemies of state. They have shown their hand and made their move - it is too late to stop what has been started so this is the only thing they can do. Sadly, it seems that with the media on their side they may well succeed - at least on an earthly level.

One officer insisted, "The American people should require greater accountability of their commissioned officers, that they abide by their oath and never allow politically motivated propaganda like this exercise on any post or base again."Another observed, "Whether this is complacency by officers who do not see such orders as a problem, or worse, officers who recognize the problem but do not insist the orders are changed, this is a serious problem. We are discussing the training of American citizen soldiers in the use of potentially deadly force against a specific group of political dissenters. There is never a time in an officer's career in which he does not have a duty to apply critical thought to the orders he is given and asked to give. It is my opinion that any officer that has allowed these orders to persist, to reach the level of junior officers and soldiers, has demonstrated a lack of judgment or apathy towards what his duty requires of him. Either way, we should demand more of the commissioned officers, who we as a nation empower to lead our sons and daughters into battle."

While this will be hard to swallow- live with it folks. These field grade officers and even senior noncoms willingly go along with exercises of power like this because they realize they are out on their ear if they do not. Look at Clinton's 93 order which disarmed all bases and require service members to register personal firearms EVEN IF THEY LIVE OFF BASE. Obama and his group are successfully labeling anyone who opposes him or his policies as terrorists and insurgents, whether we like it or not. Vote him and his cronies out. Or dig in for the long haul

I wonder who dreams up this GARBAGE?

This is why homosexuals are wanted so badly in the military. They will be shephered by existing ultra leftists within the armed forces to open fire, without question or conscience, on conservative American citizens they are readily convinced are their own personal enemies. Rational Americans in the military would disobey orders they perceive are immoral or illegal. Homosexuals have a hard time with the word 'immoral' and don't even get me started on their 'illegal' issues.

The original 1878 Posse Comitatus Act was indeed passed with the intent of removing the Army from domestic law enforcement. Posse comitatus means “the power of the county,” reflecting the inherent power of the old West county sheriff to call upon a posse of able-bodied men to supplement law enforcement assets and thereby maintain the peace.

Is the Posse Comitatus Act totally without meaning today?

No, it remains a deterrent to prevent the unauthorized deployment of troops at the local level in response to what is purely a civilian law enforcement matter. Although no person has ever been successfully prosecuted under the act, it is available in criminal or administrative proceedings to punish a lower-level commander who uses military forces to pursue a common felon or to conduct sobriety checkpoints off of a federal military post.

Officers have had their careers abruptly brought to a close by misusing federal military assets to support a purely civilian criminal matter.

But does the act present a major barrier at the National Command Authority level to use of military forces in the battle against terrorism?

The numerous exceptions and policy shifts carried out over the past 20 years strongly indicate that it does not.

While the act appears to prohibit active participation in law enforcement by the military, the reality in application has become quite different. The act is a statutory creation, not a constitutional prohibition. Accordingly, the act can and has been repeatedly circumvented by subsequent legislation.

Could anyone seriously suggest that it is appropriate to use the military to interdict drugs and illegal aliens but preclude the military from countering terrorist threats that employ weapons of mass destruction?

For two decades the military has been increasingly used as an auxiliary to civilian law enforcement when the capabilities of the police have been exceeded. Under both the statutory and constitutional exceptions that have permitted the use of the military in law enforcement since 1980, the president has ample authority to employ the military in homeland defense against the threat of weapons of mass destruction in terrorist hands.

Mr. Carl E. Warner @ 12:30:21

The Country for which you fought isn't going anywhere!

Not while I still breathe or while my children still live!

I promise you, and those of your generation, your efforts will not have been in vain!

There are enough good Citizens who will not tolerate this much longer.

I wish I could assure you that you can rest easy, but "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." —Thomas Paine. You may have to witness the unthinkable before your days are ended, but we will make you proud.

It may take time to right the ship, but it will be done.

As a former Air Force officer, I am astounded to read of any plans by the government against the peaceful demonstration by the people of America under the first amdendment.

The Tea Party movement is a simple request for the government to return constitutional governance. No firearms or alcohol is ever permitted and no outward violence or hostility is ever intended or condoned.

Secretary of Defense Gates should advise the President that such plans against the people are unlawful at best and dictatorial at worst.

The officers in charge at any installation involved should question the legality of any order charging them to take up arms against the American people

Marc,

Why do you think his book was titled "Audacity of Hope?" He was hoping that no one would realize his audacity to try to over throw the government of the United States by using it own laws against the people.

The American people has awakened to find themselves caught in a nightmare of horrific proportions. They are now aware of what will happen if the messiah is left to carry out his maniacal agenda.

Keep our powder dry; keeps our heads on a swivel and be ready to defend our country from its own.

Duke

We Christian conservative American patriots always say, "Think what would happen if this had referenced some other radical left-wing group or some ethnic group etc.?! There would be marching protests in the streets right now across the nation, demanding public apology and re-dress by the commanding officer/s responsible for such bigoted discrimination... instilling a holy fear in the other side"

And yes, for sure this would have been the case and for sure there would have been re-dress of some sort and public apology.

But I only have one thing to say, as long as the unpatriotic left-wing are always more motivated for such action, we Christian conservative American patriots will sooner or later loose our country!

Enough for talk! Those who want to unite and patriotically protest as our Founding Fathers did, here is my email: ssc700@gmail.com

The Obamao regime is trying to make our armed forces think that any and all who are not goosestepping along with the regime and worshiping at the altar of Obamao are the enemy.

This is not surprising, the same tactics have been used by Fascist and Communist totalitarian dictators throughout history and Obamao is just another in a long line of totalitarian dictators with delusions of godhood.

The Politicalization of the Military Academies is just about complete. The same 30 year schedule the Bolsheviks applied to the Public School System was applied to the Academies as well (all the Academies). Started under Carter and completed under Clinton with the connivance of the two Bushes in between.

If the Muslim Pretender in the Whitehouse is not soon driven from Office and the Country; well, the streets won't be save for anybody.

As Thomas Jefferson said; "The Tree of Freedom and Liberty must be refreshed with the blood of Patriots & Tyrants once every generation" It's gettin close Americans.

Thank you for reporting (Alexander's Essay – April 29, 2010, Army Preps for Tea Party ‘Terrorists’) on the military exercise underway at Ft. Knox, the U.S. Bullion Depository, based on a scenario of military suppression of Tea Party members who are characterized as drunken racists. As you state in “Our Sacred Honor ... to Support and Defend” on Friday, November 14, 2008, “… Commissioned and enlisted military personnel are also required by statute to ‘solemnly swear, that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same...’" It occurs to me that some (many?) officers and soldiers would recognize that it is the Tea Party members who are, like them, supporting and defending the Constitution. Then where might the military point their weapons?

--Bob in Bozeman, MT

The president has stated that he wants a stateside force comparable to the scope of our military in size and firepower. Now we know why. It's to put down those groups with the audacity to challenge his authority as king.

When the Berlin Wall went up I was stationed in France with tactical Signal company that supported SHAPE and EUCOM HQs. As a unit we were placed on immediate deployment status, all the necessary equipment loaded, C-rations, weapons and ammo.

We understood the need for this, but the need to do this at Ft Knox escapes me. We are trying to suppress

the rights of the American people.

Our Commander in Chief needs to understand what the US Army and for that matter what the US military is all about. His never having been in the US MILITARY

leaves a lot of doubt as to his actions and that of his staff as well. GOD BLESS AND PRAY FOR ALL OF OUR DEPLYED TROOPS WORLD WIDE..

Did the intel come from the Southern Poverty Law Center ?

If you plan on overthrowing the government; how do you expect the government to react?

This is uncoscionable. The usurper is the worst president America could EVER have.

You want to combat violence on American soil with the military Oblahblah? Watch what happens Sat., 5/1 when the millions of foreign invaders take to the streets.

Their violent actions have already begun, in the past few days they have attacked police, threatened citizens with death and committed vandalism.

Millions of peaceful American citizens protested for months with no incidents. The illegal aliens have just started and the arrests are already occurring.

What are you going to do about the illegals that have actually perpetrated violence?!

In the event that your Intel reports are accurate, then Obama is throwing gasoline on a smoldering fire. I am concerned that the Obama Administration is trying to provoke an incident which will provide an excuse for a declaring a state of martial law. This is of course, a classic tactic used to establish a Dictatorship.

I said it before and I must say it again. The November Elections may NEVER happen. Why you ask? If the constitution can be ignored over the things that have just happened in the last few months, What makes any one think a little thing like cancelling elections will be oppossed successfully?

Those who have taken oaths to defend and protect the constitution against ALL enemies foreign and domestic have looked the other way for several months now. Why do you think they would do something constructive in this constitutoinal crisis? We are at the mercy of raging beasts and those who have been sworn to protect us are part of the raging pride of Lions trying to destroy us. What is the answer?

I seek not for power but to bring it down

As a retired Marine officer and fighter pilot who remains forever devoted to my oath to our Constitution, I find it outrageous that quoted text below from the “intel reports” is being associated with TEA Party or Healthcare protesters! I would challenge anyone to confidently identify just one of the below noted attributes in a real TEA Party or Healthcare protester gathering.

"White Supremacists Organization…armed…combative training…Military Snipers…explosives training…Militia compound…military grade firearms…shoot the government agent…Components of bomb making…criminal records relating to explosive and weapons violations…"

Your essay notes “complacency by officers who do not see such orders as a problem”, and “officers who recognize the problem but do not insist the orders are changed”. I would add that the several decades of “social indoctrination” prevalent in our society and schools has probably created some officers and soldiers who, beyond being complacent, actually do not see that there is even a problem with this situation.

You state that “There is never a time in an officer's career in which he does not have a duty to apply critical thought to the orders he is given and asked to give.” I just worry that this ethos is not being taught, let alone practiced widely in today’s military. In my 20 years as a Marine, I saw decisions and responsibility get pushed further and further up the chain. When this happens, those further down the chain become less critical in their thinking.

Is this “blatant malfeasance on the part of the individuals who composed this exercise”? Or is this a gradual and unnoticed “rot” occurring within the ranks of our military? I don’t know. Your essay will do us all a service by bringing this situation out into the sunlight where we can assess the situation. Thank God for the Patriots that sent you the intel.

Semper Fi, California

Don't forget 29 Palms. The liberals that run our schools have brainwashed our kids so badly (not mine, BTW), that they would wear the U.N. uniform and likely shoot Americans if so ordered.

This is most disturbing. My friends and I have talked about whether or not our military would kill us civilians if ordered to by Obama. It seems as though some of them would.

How very interesting that Obama and his ilk are willing to use the military to further their aims. If I remember my history correctly, did they not have nothing but animosity towards the military establishment and all it stood for when this group was in its infancy in the 60's? What an interesting turn of events. Actually, what a scary turn of events. With that said, with all of the folks here all hot and bothered I do believe that some clarity needs to be brought about. Since 9/11, the military has looked at and trained for much more that we 'old timers' did.

Our leaders are once again trying to plant the seed in our militarys mind that there are more urgent "offenders" such as the Tea Party Patriots when it comes to considering who is a threat to our nation. Of course the real threat is the Islamic terrorists that would love to end our lives any way that they can. Oops, that would not be PC to make that statement, better to pick on Tea Party folks then face facts. I still have faith in our young men and woman in the military to know the difference between a precived (by the goverment) threat, and the real deal.

I've just realized the purpose of all this. The purpose is to make grandma and Aunt Sally so nervous about going to a rally that they stay home in fear - exactly what Obama wants - for us to stay home and cower in fear. Then, CNN doesn't have to worry about our disapproval anymore.

Two main purposes of this exercise have been fulfilled. One, to clearly signal the willingness of this administration to unleash the military against our own people, and Two, to mentally prepare the military for such an action.

Ward:

You're exactly right.

THis 'Nam era jarhead says Stockpile and wait. When they approach your front door, drop the first few, then destroy everything...Burn it all. The scorched earth policy worked twice for the Russians (Napoleon and Hitler). Leave the Marxists nothing of value.

Just a thought...How many people would be willing to show up outside Fort Knox to bring America's attention to these plans and provocations?

I guess if you stop to think about it, we consider ourselves patriots, but we are probably all on a government watch(enemy) list. I'm glad nothing like this occured during my 20 years in the NAVY(58-78). Now I think I should arm my power wheelchair in case they invade my home. Don't own a gun, and there is no ramp to get out, so I'll have to use one of my many canes to defend myself here. OH, I use a regular wheel chair after going out side. This is all true, but I like to make fun of things that affect me. It helps me keep my spirits up while sitting here alone all day, almost every day. I'm 70, and the better half is only 55, and works full time so we can survive in this GREAT NATION. At least I can putt-putt around here and do some house chores. Have a good day, Ya'll...CPO,USN,Ret

Is anyone aware of the fact that the U.S. military oath was changed,in order to have no allegiance to the U.S. anymore? Secondly, in 1996, a soldier sued in court protesting he would not wear the UN uniform, and the military court-martialed him! Judges are in cahoots with the present Marxist/One World administration and shadow government.

I have attended tea parties in Olympia, WA on April 15, 2009 and April 15, 2010, along with my wife and son. I can’t express to you how disturbing it was to read about the exercise scenarios. It is obvious to me that this was a deliberate attempt to brainwash our soldiers into seeing tea party protesters are violent and a threat to soldiers who may in the future be called to respond to a tea party demonstration. There is an old saying, “Practice makes perfect”, which means that if you practice the wrong thing you will get perfect at implementing that wrong thing. This may mean that peaceful demonstrators may greeted with violence at some future event.

This scenario creates a very chilling effect on our first amendment rights. I have to think twice now about bringing my wife and children to tea party events. I fear that this is the intended result, so it is very important to trace down the origins of this exercise. If it can be traced back to the Obama administration, we must speak the truth and let the country know what is happening.

We really have to start worrying when Obama gets his Civilian Force(remember what he said when he was campaigning) trained and armed like the Military. He stated that they would be as well trained as our military. Does anyone out there know where they are being trained?

As a 30 year Navy veteran, I'd say we all need to read the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital because I believe that’s the playbook of the current administration. We should be able to point to the page and paragraph that correlates to their tactics.

The administration and lap dog media are very consistently portraying Tea Partiers as Timothy McVeigh wanna-be’s. They are deliberately lying and trying to paint a picture of anyone who opposes their Marxist/socialist agenda as dangerous racists and anarchists. Look at NY Senator Kevin Parker who just called Republicans White Supremacists. It’s a good thing when they get carried away because the lie is exposed, but the administration in particular is very smart in the way they vilify (“just being cautious”) people who read and understand the Constitution.

The article condemns the LtCols and other senior military officers, but again, the administration is being very coy. If an O-4, O-5, or O-6 decides to call the exercise what it is and refuse to have his unit participate, his career will end and he’ll lose his retirement. You going to risk all that over an exercise? The administration is slowly and deliberately boiling the frog. Get them used to exercises and having the Tea Partiers labeled as domestic terrorists and sow lots of doubt - thoguhts like "Who’s to say there really aren’t a few like that among them?" "This is coming from our own intelligence sources, isn’t it?" "We won’t actually shoot anyone, just detain them. No sense losing a career and lifetime retirement check over that."

The ones who should be stabding up in particular are the senior flag officers – the three and four stars. These are men who have bravely risk life and limb in the face of enemy combatants, but often cower when their careers are at stake. I believe the last time a group of flag officers stood up to civilian authorities was the Revolt of the Admirals in the late 1940’s. A mass resignation by very senior military officers who spell out why they’re resigning an then vocally oppose and expose the administration as retired officers would be a major blow to what I believe are the administration’s plans to impose a Marxist/socialist government.

Unless some Congressman and Senators get very upset and public about these exercises, the administration just might pull off a communist style coup. Obama’s not in this alone – he has lots of Marxists/socialists in his administration, Congress, and the media supporting him in every way they are able.

As a former naval officer, I am outraged at this turn of events within our present military command. If this was orchestrated by any part of the Obama administration, then we have a duty to act to uncover this malfeasance and alert our citizenry to the inherent dangers of our government arming it's military against it's citizens. This cannot stand.

I must admit I was ambivalent about the tea party rallies. I guess it was a combination of apathy and, well, a lack of time. After reading your post, I want in. Could you please publicize any future TEA party events so that I may attend with my family and perhaps raise awareness so that others might attend as well. Thanks for your efforts to keep us informed.

ms

I`m with you Semper Fi!!!!

...and I take offense to that language used by this article to describe the very basis of our nation and those that wish to preserve our constitution.

I will never again vote Democrat......nor will I ever give one the time of day. We all gave our lives to preserve this way of life and these bastards come in here like they own the place and change the very foundation, beliefs and core of my love for this country and what the principles are that this country was founded......these people have every right to protest this tyrant and his minions.....I think Senator Mcarthy was on the right path...and believe me...he should be here now!!!!

Semper Fi, Semper Paratus and always willing!!!!

Tom Manning:"Our country is going stark raving mad" Tom, I suggest that your very astute obversation is unfortunately RIGHT ON! Don Knowles, your post today made my day. It is so comforting to know that your response to my post indicates that this old WWII Marine is not alone. We WWII Marines were willing to fight an overseas enemy to perserve our nation, now Americans have to fight a raging enternal enemy. The great greek philosopher Aristotle said, " There are times that in order to perserve the sancity of a nation is may be necessary to shake it up". It appeaes that that thime is here.

Semper Fi

Interesting story. I have been on Ft Knox regularly this week including spending time in the 194 Armored Bridgade on Wednesday, 28 Apr, and saw no evidence of any Soldiers being on "Alert" or vehicles being prepped and loaded for an "exercise". I did see a compamny of Basic Trainees returning from a Road March to eat chow at their dining facility. Also, there is massive construction going on there to improve facilities for both civilian employees and Soldiers at Ft Knox. Are you sure this happened there?

It seems to me that since the Military oath is to "support and defend our Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic" they should look no further than the Federal government which has stretched our Constitution out of shape and well beyond the intent of our Founding Fathers. The problem begins in Washington and the end must come by voting the "progressives" out of office as they come up for re-election.

I am writing to President Obama informing him that I, as a citizen, do not need to be called names by him. As a TEA demonstrator, I am exercising my constitutional right to speak against the government- when I feel it is not working under federalist principles.

our freedoms are gone its later than you think its 3rd world

The difference here is that in the past Centralia could be the "enemy", to represent whomever. But now there's a need to vilify American patriots to our military and part of our citizenry who are easily disenfranchised, or rather believe they are because they believe the liberal socialist lies they've been being fed for decades. Have a look at how the Jews became the enemies in Germany and the rest of Europe, and the parallels are too close to be ignored. But in order to get our troops to act against US citizens, they first have to be indoctrinated to believe those citizens ARE the enemy as claimed, the more so since thus far the Tea Partiers haven't done anything but play by the rules set forth in our Constitution. Obama hasn't yet been able to provoke the "civil unrest" on the conservatives' part to institute martial law, which was how Hitler consolidated his final power grab: first vilify the conservative element of the citizenry, the educated, and those unwilling to conform to the program... Naziism or Liberalism... then get the rest and the militaries to turn against them to keep them from interfering with the program. Here we are now!

I am almost 62 years old, the mother of two grown children and grandmother of six grandkids. I am an ordinary American citizen who is deeply concerned about my beautiful country, which is why I am also a Tea Party protester. I will not be intimidated by this action and will continue to protest against this anti-American and anti-Constitutional regime. I worry, daily, about the futures of my grandkids. I blame myself for not seeing this coming the past several years and want to help right the wrongs from years past. I believe in peaceable assembly and my right to speak out against this regime currently in office. We are slowly losing our freedoms, and if the need arises, I am ready and willing to fight and die for my country, Constitution and my grandkids future just as our Revolutionary ancestor's did for us. God help our country!

Oh what webs we weave. Obama you don't need the military. Don't be afriad of the truth it will set you free. Yes Americans will start setting free many congress men this November and then you next. That will finally expunge that Saul Alinsky mentallity from what was one the most respected office in the world. Americans need not politicians we need statesmen. Who will benefit most from CCX me or you?

Does POSSE COMMA TATIS (SP?) apply here?

The "people" always have to be put down, and in the most horrific manner, when totalitarian regimes take over governments. And clearly we have one of those regimes now in America...for the first time ever. God help us all.

But to think that if push comes to shove OUR military (mot Obama's)...our sons and daughters, would go along with something like this is unthinkable. It would take "I was just following orders" back to the 1930's in Germany!

if things get out of hand within our goverment over the tea party people and the goverment turned the military on them i do not believe the armed forces of the u.s.a. would not turn on it's people. in todays goverment there are many not to smart to understand what is going on, but i promise most top military brass no just what is happening, how does a man who never been in the military, does not understand how it works or cares, just as long as he is boss. i got news for him. i am a vietnam veteran and talk to many veterans, most are independents and most will back the tea party people. so if the goverment thinks they have the military behind them on this tea party thing, i think they would be making a blunder. don.

To: Jim H.

The following two quotes are from a document written and signed in July 1776 by 56 Patriots of the 1st Order. As Ben Franklin told them: "we must all stand together or separately we shall all perish." That is a very loose paraphrasing of his comment. But it serves the purpose.

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Thomas Jefferson wrote these lines in the Declaration of Independence and they are as valid today as they were 234 years ago. A popular election means absolutely nothing if the elected do not abide by the laws of the land. The Supreme Law is the U. S. Constitution; NOT, the whims and wishes of the Socialist fairies in Washington today.

Your comment about voting them out of office is valid and that is what must be done. But, we may not have the time to wait for the November elections.

Remember your oath, Captain. You swore to protect and defend the CONSTITUTION against ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC. The theft of our rights as guaranteed by that same Constitution is a serious offense. The fact that it comes from our own citizens DOES NOT MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE. You did NOT swear your oath to any single individual or governmental office.

Duke

This kind of reaction is about what we have come to expect from our president.

As a former officer of the United States Army, I would have a problem with this CIC. He is in violation of his oath of office without question. Carrying out the orders of this DEGENERATE would cause me to violate my oath to the constitution. As such I would stand against BHO and I do as a civilian! Do the rest of you officers have any testicles left or have they been removed from your bodies? This goes double for you field grade weenies!

This information should be well publicized to the media and talk radio. Particularly, as a aresident of California, send to Sen. Feinstien and Boxer and to Representative George Miller. They need to be embarassedd as members of the party that dreamed this senariao.

i think its a good idea to have a party,go tea party !

Over my 31 years of service in the Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve, I have participated in many, many military and civilian/military exercises and I have participated in scenario development. I have NEVER seen a scenario in which a political agenda is used as the basis of a security exercise and I am appalled at the lack of leadership in allowing this scenario to be used. Senario development requires trusted agents from participating agencies to provide input to the scenario that will help exercise their command's training requirments. Any command that would allow their trusted agent to provide this kind of input should be reprimanded along with the trused agent for exercising extremely poor judgement in such a politically emotional and volatile environment.

These guys are really getting desperate. Are they so afraid of the grassroots patriots who defy the Marxist oriented pretender occupying the White House that they have to resort to antics of real thugs and buffoons such as the SEIU and ACORN bullies, who, of course, are given a pass by the liberal media, whoch does not cover their illegal activities.

To picture the Tea Party participants as other than peace loving patriots who are sick and tired of being pushed along the Marxist road of destruction and the demise of our country as we have known it, is to blatantly lie--an accomplishment for which the radical Left has become very proficient.

Jack- I live here on Fort Knox and I have not seen much of this exercise either, a company commander here told me about this whole thing. He says he received both of these "Intel updates" himself. Whether or not this plaid out in actual drills (I have no idea what the plan was or what happened), these emails were sent out to commanders here on post in these units.

If the professional fighting force of this country is going to remain subordinate to its civil authority then it must refrain from even appearing to enter into the current political debate. According to Huntington in “The Soldier and the State,” it is the duty of both the civil and military sides of a society to understand this and require it. As a military officer I completely agree. As a citizen and as a military officer, I am concerned about what types of “real” choices I might be forced to make down the line if such exercises are allowed to continue. Frankly, had I received these orders myself in this exercise, whether that consists of actual physical training events or just academic exercises in receiving orders, I would think twice about it.

If anyone doubts this article is true, he should contact this congressman and demand an investigation. If not his own, then how about one of the congressmen who is also active in the Tea Party. You would think they have vested interest in determining if this is true. The writers at the Patriot Post will have a much harder time getting to the truth, especially if the worst is true and this stuff is actually happening and accepted by the majority of the officer corps. At the end of the day, even if this is just the most harmless email exercise sent down the chain of command, and I believe it isn’t, then this is still very troubling and we citizens should demand the full truth about it from our elected officials.

BULL! More PC.

I did my basic training at Fort Knox and I can say without a doubt that it would take THOUSANDS of Tea Party activists charging the multiple fences around the gold depository with their flags to even scare a rabbit sitting on the steps of the depository. I guess this is more important than sending these troops to the Southern border to stop the invasion of illegals. And that is what it is....an invasion.

I forwarded the story and Patriot Post link to my Congressman Tom McClintock this morning. He is a Tea Party Patriot supporter and has appeared at Tea Party rallies. Thanks for pursuing this Mark.

Bob H

Forgive me for being an idiot and misrepresenting my profession. I misspelled several words in my post. I will blame the fact that my blood is up and I wrote too hastily. Please forgive my lack of attention to detail.

I'm a former police officer and I feel the command staff was well aware of these happenings.... I always was aware of what my troops were up to, if not I would have been a fool..... I'm no fool....

Ron Jones, I guess you haven't heard about the rallies supporting gun rights where people are bringing firearms. http://politics.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.html?page=23888&external=256271.proteus.fma

Black Helicopters on the horizon?

So who is it that is going to "Council" the person in the white house that is called The President"? I do NOT respect him. The first clue was his refusal to salute the flag. Some of his actions (in my book) are treason. He should be impeached!

Well that is encouraging. I would hate for the military to think I was not on their side with this current fiasco.

Maybe the Command Staff didn't approve the scenario you described, but it sounds like something the current White House Staff would approve.

Mark, thank you for providing the update. The scenario would have been much more realistic if it had incorporated the SDS or La Raza.

About time some nobama ites got caught with their hands in the cookie jar; and had to crawfish out - - -

But are they still on our side??

JB

Oklahoma

The ONLY TERROR-ISTS are the ones that are currently promoting the TERROR within the people of OUR United States. They would be, starting with the worst one - Barack Obama - the biggest TERROR-IST & LIAR who is insighting Terror among us, and promoting racial tension. Following him are his CZARS that he placed into Federal Control of US Citizens, and who by the way are not held accountable by the Senate or the House of Reps. They too are TERROR-ISTS insighting Terror among us. Then we have all of B.H.O.'s minions in the Senate and House of Reps - the Liberal-Democrats, that are TERROR-ISTS, who are looked at with scorn by B.H.O. if they do not do, say, or vote the way he wants them to. THEY too are instilling TERROR among us. Those folks are the only ones that are terrorizing US Citizens by telling us what we have to do, say, buy, etc. They are the Socialist Public Enemy, NOT the Conservative Tea-Party folks, who might I add come and go peacefully, without rioting or starting any violence. The rotten Lib-Dems are the only ones who are contributing to those factors with their bad language, racial-slurs, Union-bullying and overall Bad Form. Those are the TOTAL SCUMBAGS that my fellow soldiers should be looking to protect the good US Citizens from, not the Tea-Party Folks!! IMPEACH OBAMA ASAP!!!

Mark - re the update you sent to subscribers - I might suggest that the "appropriate counsel" mentioned by command staff would be for this officer to be advised his retirement would be recommended in lieu of a reduction in rank.

As a retired 25 year veteran police officer, I am disgusted by the constant incursions by the military into law enforcement in contravention of the Posse Comitatus Act. It has to stop. Curious that most of the most recent transgressions have been during Democrat administrations, no?

At any rate, I had posted your Brief on my blog, and will now post the update. Keep up the good fight!

The comments in this article remind me of exactly what we did in the 1950's during the civil rights movement. We trained and practiced various scenarios, and at times implemented them, as you know.

Any American citizen who thinks those soldiers wont shoot them is sadly mistaken.

We are being led my a very misguided government and have our liberties very much at stake.

Moon

The light of day always makes the rats scurry away. And if you believe the "official" explanation, I have this really great land by the southern Nevada/Cal border than I would love to show you.

Are the military leaders NOT aware of the high level of distrust most Americans are feeling to our civilian government?

If they were would they not want to assure Americans that our military leaders can be trusted?

This exercise would indicate someone in the chain of commander has a lack of respect for the American people. I can NOT imagine in my wildest dreams playing out a scenario like you described.

Mistrust leads to defensive measures by folks. We need to calm this mistrust and lower the level of tension in America. This exercise did NOT achieve any good purpose.

pray for our military leaders.

thanks for your response. We are at home just about 12 miles from Fort Knox's main entrance and the gold vault, closer than that to some of the training ranges. Have they been busy? Absolutely, and very loud sometimes but, nothing out of the ordinary.

Let us not get overly excited. Wait and see what transpires.

It appears that they do not want you to know that you're are going to rounded up in advance, that they're practicing their herding tactics and that their "ducks" are in a row (logistical integrity and/or continuity). Liberal speak for "if you can't beat 'em or discredit 'em, lock 'em up. We sure elected a "winner" didn't we?

While it is reassuring that the senior command staff contacted you regarding the inappropriateness of such parameters for the exercise, it seems to me that the horse is already out of the barn on this one.

As I was teaching Boy Scouts last weekend during a Leave No Trace Presentation, the best way to train anyone/anything is to reward the approximation of a task. Since the task of rounding up patriotic Americans has been successfully approximated, I'm not sure that merely counseling the individual(s) who changed the exercise is going to be enough. Shouldn't the troops be informed that this was not an acceptable scenario as well?

thank you for keeping all informed. its the only way we truly know what is going. obama and his cohorts are very dangerous. our country has got to have god back in our lives, its the only. god bless you peace

Ranks right up there with the "uninviting" of Franklin Graham to speak at the National Day of Prayer for calling extremist muslims evil.

Could it be that :

"I think He Doth Protest Too Much "

You are RIGHT ON the Ball!

Nicole said:

"Ron Jones, I guess you haven't heard about the rallies supporting gun rights where people are bringing firearms."

So, is that a problem for you, missy? Are you suggesting the Second Amendment is null and void in the case of a peaceful and orderly protest about this administrations attempts to curtail our sacred Constitution?

I read your first alert with serious concern. I was under the inperssion that use of the US military, any branch, against citizens of the United States was prohibited by the Constitution. I thought I had been in error all these years since law school. I hope the "counsel" envolves serious "re-education" of the poor misguided officer.

..And we are to accept this explanation at "face value?" Not if you are attuned to what games have been played on US citizens...like the comment about the soldier who refused to wear a UN uniform,took it to court, lost, and the military court-martialed him. So much for trusting the military of today. Now,back in the "greatest generation" patriots could be found everywhere.

I wass flabbergasted at the blatent political motives report by this "exercise"

Thank you for exposing it. Can you also expose the planners and approvers of the plan. Perhaps tie in the A*hole prez

Thanks

I regret to say that I don't believe those that contacted you. They made an excuse for the military's action, but I am sure it was the proverbial 'cover up.' In fact, I have no doubt the military was given orders on how to act during a Tea Party gathering. I am to the point that I don't feel safe from "the supposed Good Guys."

Well, no wonder Ft. Knox had so many recent deaths due to a REAL TERRORIST. whom they chose to not address.

I am a Tea Party member and proud of it and never ever have I seen any disruption, slander, carrying of arms, etc. at any gathering. This is a Democracy or it is supposed to be with all being allowed to speak their beliefs, called FREEDOM OF SPEECH, I believe. I can't believe that even our Armed Forces would stoop so low as to believe this current administration and the way it is taking our country. Political correctness is ruining our country.

Wake up America and read the writing on the wall before it is too late.

When is enough, ENOUGH!!!!! IMPEACH THEM ALL, they are shredding our Constitution. I beleive in our military, they love this country, they prove it everday. But when is it ENOUGH????? Who, When, Where will someone do something, this is going to far. I am scared that November is too far away, too much damage is being done to our country.

Where is George Washington? We need a leader and to take a stand, we will be pushed no further.

GOB HELP US ALL

Regarding the Fort Knox issue, I call BS about this not being authorized. As a former Division G3 staff officer, I can tell you the CG was always thoroughly briefed on every aspect of our training operations. They are throwing someone under the bus, and it would be interesting to see if they actually do reprimand or counsel anyone.

gee, now i wonder why i don't believe that. or anything else anyone else in this regime says. could it be because the military command, most of them at least in the upper echelons, continue to take illegal orders from an illegal, unconstitutional, anti-constitutional fraud in our house. it's called cya because they were caught with their pants down. it seems to me there was another exercise planned for may with foreign troops on our soil that was canceled or re-scheduled. hmmmmmm.

in order to further the cause of freedom and liberty and to identify what we stand for i believe we need to label those traitorous and treasonous elements in our government which is why i'm pushing a campaign to call obimbo and his ilk anti-freedom, anti-liberty, anti-constitutionalists to identify them for what they are. in my opinion calling them socialists or communists or fascists or nazis, which they are all that, doesn't resonate enough with the average american. but calling them anti-constitutional

makes them sound exactly like what they are, anti-american. it is specific and definitive enough to make it stick. it is also distinctly american. will you support me in this and help it go viral? and i'd like to have everyone wear white shirts on thursdays to show support for the constitution.

This is an entirely plausible scenario. Google "garden plot". If that doesn't scare the daylights out of you, I don't know what will.

Yokes out

Thank you for updating this information. I cannot imagine that our beloved military would ever take action, even pretend action, against patriotic Americans such as myself. The sad part is that I found it believable considering the current commander-in-chief who hates the country he was elected to serve. May God Bless our soldiers always.

Great, timely essay. It is very gratifying to see that someone at Fort Knox read it and provided a favorable response. Thanks for the update and for the good work.

Wouldn't it be nice if our grandchildren could grow up in an America with some decent standards.Loving their country and proud of their Heritage.

For those that question the Tea Party programs I wish they would attend a few and see just what those patriots are doing and saying as Obama takes us down the road to socialism.

Nicole. Why do you assume that it is a threat for people to carry arms at any of the 2nd Amendment rallies you reference? If they are doing it illegally then they will be arrested. They are legally open-carrying their firearm at those rallies. What is wrong with exercising their right to do so? It's in the Constitution, for crying out loud! And tell me please, which one of them pulled their weapon or threatened anyone at those rallies? They didn't, because they were responsibly exercising their Second Amendment right!

If the Command staff was aware of the altered scenario and let it go ahead anyhow, they are negligent in their oversight responsibilities and should be disciplined or dismissed. If the Command staff was NOT aware of the altered scenario, they are not paying enough attention to the people and programs they manage and are negligent in their oversight responsibilities and should be disciplined or dismissed. In keeping with the finest military tradition, I expect that the blame will be pushed as far down the chain of command as they can get away with, and the people at the top who are paid to keep things like this from happening will get off the hook.

THE TRUTH IS NOT IN THE WHITEHOUSE, ILLEGAL CZARS OR THE DUMOCRAT MILITARY OR ELECTED LEADERS, THEIR IN BED WITH OBAMA, PLUS THEY ALL ARE LIERS, NAZA, COMMY, ANTI AMERICAN, UNCONSTITUTIONAL,SOCIALIST, LAWBREAKING, THEIVES, TRYING TO BE ANOTHER HITLER, AND DESTROY AMERICA.

Just one more cover-up. A new day; a new cover-up. Trying to deal with this government is pointless. There is absolutely no honesty and (therefore) no credibility. Benjamin Franklin, forgive us. We lost the Republic. Our children gave it away one day.

Glad to hear someone was thinking. Must have been a sergeant.

Sadly, I do not believe the "Command staff". I think they got caught and these are the best weasel words they could come up with to blunt criticism. This expose will just drive them undercover. As a proud Viet Nam vet, I grieve.

This senario corresponds with conversations I have had with members of my Tea Party in that it was suggested that younger soldiers would fire upon their own Countrymen. I took that as an offense as a retired Army Senior NCO. Sure order come down from you know where and you know what rolls downhill. I do not believe that military officers would obey an order similar to that of Nazi Germany. My knowledge of Army officers is that they follow what they swore in their oath, to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who the domestic enemies are today. I believe in soldiers and my beloved Army and Country and have faith to this effect. We came under attack by enemies during the Vietnam period but the administration never reacted by calling the anti-war crowd terrorists or seditious. The National uard on the border recently with no ammunition ran for their lives when fired upon by Mexican invaders. I say no more. God help us.

This is an entirely plausible scenario. Google "garden plot". If that doesn't scare the daylights out of you, I don't know what will.

Yokes out

Have a problem with the Army. Send in the MARINES.

I have forwarded Mr. Alexander's update to my Congressman (who actually DOES have his head on straight), recommending a formal inquiry. These days, sadly, one cannot trust the Command Staff at an Army post to properly "counsel" not only the offending officer, but the rest of the troops who have been exposed to such dangerous "official" direction.

(As to "Centralia", that was my [real] home of record the whole time I was on active duty!)

Pat

So, 'someone' is listening: Patriot Post DOES make a difference.

Yep, the reason for he statemen was that they got caught. Wonder what Raphand David A had to do with it

good job!

Thank you for the update! Let's hope this field personnel get the appropriate counseling and not the kind that Hassan 'received' at Ft. Hood.

Reaffirms my faith in our military and our commissioned officers. Thank you again!

What we call liberals, the old Soviet Union called useful idiots. The useful idiots are being expertly

used by evil men to accomplish their agenda. We are living in the most dangerous time our republic has ever endured. Keep your powder dry. It is going to get worse. Keep up the good work at Patriot Post/.

Modern communications....GREAT! Somebody's paying attention. GOOD JOB!!

Yeah! Right! And the SWAT team called out in IL where a Tea Party was assembled peacefully to protest an Obama talk was "just a mistake" as well! We are being set up for the lose of our First Amendment rights to assemble against Obamanation!

Harold, Don and Jim,

The Guard et al troops are in Afghanistan doing exactly what a civilian troop takeover would encompass...house to house/search and seize/quarantine, etc. They are training on bases now for urban warfare. The Marxist playbook is followed exactly-he who controls the economy controls the people! I emphatically agree with you! At Tea Parties I've attended, those people were not there. Had they come, we would have politely asked them not to taint our goals and achievements. Bcz it is grassroots, there are many diverse views-united by one theme: the government is too big, taking too much money from our paychecks!

Recommend that people read Atlas Shrugged again and John Ross's Unintended Consequences. Both will scare you about goverment intervention

are you sure he didn't just get disciplined for getting caught and embarrassing his Chain of Command?

I agree with Joan above...

and you NEED to post the scenario docs BACK on the website... there are zero, zip, zilch nada security reasons for taking them down....

trust me, as someone who is armed, and has combative / sniper/explosives training / experience

as well as various super secret squirrel alphabet agency involvement....

Today, a tea party standing and singing the Nation Anthem were subjected to some IDIOT calling out the Swat Team to parade and intimidate the Tea Party people. They were simply exercising their Constitutional right to protest and petition our government peacefully. They weren't throwing things or shearing re-fried beans on things.

I am reminded of Ruby Ridge and Waco. Is that next? It was the ATF & FBI who fired the first shots and killed citizens. Evidence lost and destroyed. Survivors paid after court decision. FACT. Thank you Mr. Clinton. This type of political, black booted government big gun activity scares and angers me.

What a waste of public money and resources. This is serious and an insult to the people. Officers need to examine the oath they took. Let us get back to the Constitution!

Lloyd

That the excersise include any mention of "Tea Party" and "terrorists" in the same event whatsoever implies that at least an assumed approbation if not direct command would be in effect.

Military structure and culture does not lend itself to whimsical notions as part of any excersise. Specificity of concepts and purposes are the rule.

The response from them seemed quite emasculated as well.

The liberal left seems bent on making the Tea Party some radical fringe group, ignorant and uncultured marked best by red neck jokes. If one wouldn't know better, somebody is pushing for a fight to prove they are right.

Thank you for the clarification. I am pleased to know that there were extenuating circumstances. I am equally pleased to know that the Patriot Post provides full disclosure in a "front page" style. The mainstream media, in a case such as this, would have tucked the new information somewhere on a back page in fine print.

Corrected spelling:

This scenario corresponds with conversations I have had with members of my Tea Party in that it was suggested that younger soldiers would fire upon their own Countrymen. I took that as an offense as a retired Army Senior NCO. Sure order come down from you know where and you know what rolls downhill. I do not believe that military officers would obey an order similar to that of Nazi Germany. My knowledge of Army officers is that they follow what they swore in their oath, to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who the domestic enemies are today. I believe in soldiers and my beloved Army and Country and have faith to this effect. We came under attack by enemies during the Vietnam period but the administration never reacted by calling the anti-war crowd terrorists or seditious. The National uard on the border recently with no ammunition ran for their lives when fired upon by Mexican invaders. I say no more. God help us.

Isn't it convenient that, as soon as this little plot was exposed to the light of day, the lead man of the military unit running this exercise denies that the plan existed as exposed, and threw a convenient scapegoat under the bus? Can we say "CYA?" I wonder what the exercise would have looked like had it not been exposed early on? Would the Tea Party folks (peaceful, one and all, so far as can be determined) still have been targeted as one of the "extremist groups?"

It is most admirable to see a timely update when needed. Keep up the good work.

God have mercy on us all; if our military can be ordered to respond to peaceful protest in this manner, we are doomed as a Republic!

I am appalled by this whole scenario. The "retraction" posted doesn't help the situation much since I am of the opinion that it is nothing more than a CYA statement when the S**t hit the fan. I am a conservative, ex-marine Corpsman (RVN 65-66)an cannot believe what is happening to our country. 2010 begins the revolution to take back our country. Vote OUT all that are spending & socializing our country. Then in 2012 we can get a real President into office.

someone needs to "draw a line in the snd"; and soon!!

This President is more (or less) than just a liberal thinker. My personal opinion is, he is part and parcel to a much more sinister goal. He and his cronies are beyond honest discourse. I don't believe anything he says or does is without without a caveat.

He doesn't want illegal aliens to come to American in search for a better life. That will happen; but his objective is to create a new voter group to ensure a re election. That objective is to change our Nation into s socialiist 2nd class, or worse, gathering.

"Something" has to be done to prevent that from happening. The first step is to keep the borders closed to illegals...for now....THERE, I've said it!!

It is nice to know that there are still pofessional Officers in the Army that understand our oath to defend the Constitution against all enimies foreign and domestic, and recognize political BS when they see it. I also hope the the Officer that altered the scenario, to insert realism !!!, has need of a very soft cusion at his Office Chair to insure that he is capable of setting comfortabley for the next several weeks. Hopefully, his indescretion and stupidity will be duly noted in his Army equivelent of the Navy's fittnes report.

I don't believe a word Obama says. Most Congressmen are liars. Why should I believe any government bureaucrat, agent, or officer?

Having been a government employee of some form or fashion for about 40 years (including 3 years and 9 months active duty in the United States Marine Corps), I've been lied to by the best (and the worst), both in uniform and civilian attire. The more I hear about the present government of the United States, the less it reminds me of the country I swore (3 different times) to defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I pray my grandsons will see this nation return to what it once was, humbled and on its knees before Almighty God. Semper fidelis.

The ONLY TERROR-ISTS are the ones that are currently promoting the TERROR within the people of OUR United States. They would be, starting with the worst one - Barack Obama - the biggest TERROR-IST & LIAR who is insighting Terror among us, and promoting racial tension. Following him are his CZARS that he placed into Federal Control of US Citizens, and who by the way are not held accountable by the Senate or the House of Reps. They too are TERROR-ISTS insighting Terror among us. Then we have all of B.H.O.'s minions in the Senate and House of Reps - the Liberal-Democrats, that are TERROR-ISTS, who are looked at with scorn by B.H.O. if they do not do, say, or vote the way he wants them to. THEY too are instilling TERROR among us. Those folks are the only ones that are terrorizing US Citizens by telling us what we have to do, say, buy, etc. They are the Socialist Public Enemy, NOT the Conservative Tea-Party folks, who might I add come and go peacefully, without rioting or starting any violence. The rotten Lib-Dems are the only ones who are contributing to those factors with their bad language, racial-slurs, Union-bullying and overall Bad Form. Those are the TOTAL SCUMBAGS that my fellow soldiers should be looking to protect the good US Citizens from, not the Tea-Party Folks!! IMPEACH OBAMA ASAP!!!

This crystallizes the validity of this article. If you click on any of the support documents, they are no longer available as The Patriot Post has been asked to remove them. I thank the Post for keeping us informed. This is simply frightening. Go tea party! This is what the link to the documents now says...

The official Fort Knox security exercise documents originally posted on this page were marked "unclassified". However, at the request of command staff at Ft. Knox, we have voluntary removed them for security reasons.

Appropriate council? The officer who circulated the "more realistic scenario" has disgraced the uniform he/she wears and broken the oath of office. This officer needs to be a civilian.

This surely sounds like CYA.

Government is no more than an implement of force, ie, a gun. The only distinction between political parties is the direction that the gun is pointed and what demands are being made. The Conservatives have a tendency to point the government at those who threaten the lives of the American citizens, while Liberals take aim at the citizens.....God help us all

Bruce, I never said I had a problem with those rallies. I was commenting on the fact that Ron said it wasn't like people were bringing guns to rallies. I was pointing out that there actually are rallies where people are bringing guns. But nice of you to make assumptions and to derogatorily call me "missy".

You keep up the good work. Had you not "called their hand" on this, there would have been nothing done about it most likely.

Thank you for your efforts to keep us posted. You ARE appeciated.

Sounds like someone got cought with their finger in the cookie jar!

Kudos to Command Staff at Fort Knox for their swift action to correct this exceptionally unfortunate "alteration" of the training scenario.

The specific officer in the security loop who "altered the scenario "in order to make it more realistic"" FAR exceeded his or her authority.

Hopefully this individual will be permanently relieved of any position of authority or command within the United States Army, as well as be evaluated as to whether his or her conduct may have violated civil and criminal law in addition to military law. There is no career in the United States military for such an individual.

It is interesting to think that there are folks in the armed forces that would fear the Tea Party Movement.

Mark, funny how everyone is making inferences from my post. I said nothing negative about people bringing guns to rallies. I was just pointing out to Ron that there have been rallies where people are bringing guns. Re-read what I wrote & what you wrote. I support the 2nd amendment and if they're not doing anything illegal, then I say let people bring their guns. You all need to get some reading comprehension skills.

"Why do you assume that it is a threat for people to carry arms at any of the 2nd Amendment rallies you reference? If they are doing it illegally then they will be arrested. They are legally open-carrying their firearm at those rallies. What is wrong with exercising their right to do so? It's in the Constitution, for crying out loud! And tell me please, which one of them pulled their weapon or threatened anyone at those rallies? They didn't, because they were responsibly exercising their Second Amendment right!

If there is any officer in the security loop who would alter the the scenario "in order to make it more realistic" in the current political climate is not qualified to an Army Officer!

Thank you so much for your "UPDATE > Alexander: Army Preps for Tea Party 'Terrorists'". The very fact that this incident occurred at all is upsetting (all the more so since I went through The Armor School as a young Second Lieutenant and served briefly at Fort Knox) but the disclaimer by "senior command staff" makes me rest a little easier.

I disagree completely, though, with other posters that senior staff necessarily knew about this before hand. As the leader of a Tank Platoon stationed on the Korean DMZ, I could very easily have started an international incident without the battalion staff or even my company commander having prior knowledge. For that matter, any member of any of my five tank crews could have shelled North Korea before I could have done anything about it. I might also add that I would stake my life on none of them ever considering firing on Americans under any circumstances whatsoever.

Did they perhaps have their collective heads in a fox hole? How could the commanding general and senior staff not see what was unfolding? Or did they just ignore the exercise designed to offer the ultimate protection for the nation's gold supply?

The above Army Prep for the Tea Party is the perfect example why we must be ever vigilant. All tyranny evolves in small steps.

How did this get past the senior officers. It sounds like they found a scape goat and are doing their best to cover their butts.

it is my hope and my prayer that our military will stand with the people against hussein obama.i would like to see the people walk up the steps to the capital with a written declaration to arrest the democratistanis and be backed by a platoon of combat infantry soldiers to help carry out our petition. i was United States Navy 1077-1985

The staff officer that changed the exercise should be relieved...there is no place for 'stupid' in the Army.

If there is any officer in the security loop who would alter the the scenario "in order to make it more realistic" in the current political climate is not qualified to be an Army Officer!

The Ft. Hood scenarion is a quantum escalation in the psywar between the Regime and the Constitution... a testing of the waters, a recon by fire.

Your pusillanimous observation, Jim H, does not bespeak your claim to have been an officer of Marines.

Mr. Warner, hand salute for your service, sir... spoken like a real Marine.

Alex

Platoon Commander, Fifth Marines, Viet Nam

the abuse from this white house by a person that has never been in OUR military or so much as been in charge of a worm farm goes to TREASON. as a student of history several items seem to follow the path of a person called HITLER. any time a leader starts to use the troops he has control over points to less rights and more control over the people that put him in office. it is my opinion that this white house WANTS to see this country fail. that way he can allow his rag headed brethen to take over with out loss of their life. i am neither a drunk nor ignorant. what I am is P/O at the american system of government that has lead us down this path of national destruction.

Thanks for the update. I found it very hard to believe any military intelligence office could really be that stupid. I spent nearlu 30 years as an intelligence specialist/officer and never heard of anything this foolish. Hopefully the person who is responsible for this idea will find other more worthwhile work outside the military.

Charlie

Alarming! Can a police state be far behind?

NAZI GERMANY:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --

Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --

Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --

Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller (1892-1984) was an ardent nationalist and prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last 7 years of Nazi rule in concentration camps.

PROGRESSIVE U. S.

First they came for the Tea Party participants, and I did not speak out --

Because I was not a Tea Party participant.

Then they came for the NRA patriots, and I did not speak out --

Because I was not an NRA patriot.

Then they came for the Christian conservatives, and I did not speak out --

Because I was not a Christian conservative.

Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.

Let's not overlook the obvious: why go to this much trouble to pit the military against its staunch supporters?

A lame excuse, how shameful the whole sceneraio is

I hope that this did not happen as you described however I have no doubt that it did. Any slimy way the opposition can be put down is the way of Obama. Also he wants to put a chill down the spines of those that even consider opposing him. What will be next? It surely will not be honest, fair government. He is off on another tour of the country doing "campaign" speeches. As he rudely told Senator McCain "The campaign is over" so, President Obama, "The campaign is over". Try to be honest about something although you have not told over fifteen or twenty lies this last week. Keep up the good work.

I agree with others that this scenario was known by the command staff which is now trying to back peddle. It is sad that U. S. Army officers would have agreed to participate in an exercise in which American tea parties are identified as terrorist organizations. Yes we all were trained to follow orders but surely there would have been open objections to the scenarios. This whole thing smacks of political correctness gone completely amuck. I'm a retired USAF officer and it truly saddens me that honest, organized disagreement is now terrorism if the disagreement is with the current administration.

Do you believe the explanation from commanders, that they did not know about the scenario?

While the government and its 'angry mob' of ignorant malcontents continue to spew their venomous picture of some 'evil' contingent of society, me and my fellow Tea Party participants and supporters continue to show NOTHING but pure American Liberty in petitioning this gangster-government in exactly the way our forefathers intended - with dignified expressions, common sense and ultimately good behavior. WE are America; the rest belong somewhere else that conforms to THEIR socialist leanings - say Europe or Canada?

Thank you Mr. Alexander!

Thank you for keeping our military and us informed.

Your dedication to our battle for Liberty is most appreciated.

Mr. Conservative

http://blogs.lubbockonline.com/conservative/

We are indeed in a most dangerous and interesting time. It seems both sides, gov't and civilian, are continuing to make assumptions about the other, perhaps not without some marginal foundation. Just as in the Ruby Ridge fiasco, where the homesteaders made assumptions about the Feds and the Feds made assumptions about the homesteaders, this is a downward spiral. When each assumes the worst of the other, then each feels compelled to prepare for the worst the other can offer. And the more each prepares, the more justification each gives to the other.

If we do not find a way to break this cycle and get past the propaganda, we will indeed have a civil war.

All told, however, I'd rather face that horror, than the long slow horror of enslavement under the communist/socialist yoke.

Thank God for the later update from Mark!! My blood pressure spiked with alarm, disgust, and frustration when I read the original essay this morning. As a retired Navy Commander and former squadron commander, this struck me as both surreal and ominously incredible. I've always had my suspicions that We the People might someday have to worry about trigger happy local cops and municipal police officers who if forced to save their jobs and impress their out-of-control local elected officials wouldn't think twice about shooting a few civilians and looking for some way to cover it up later. Too many of these hired guns have too little respect for the civilians they supposedly protect and serve anyway and I suspect that many of them slept through the training on the Constitutional and legal aspects of using deadly force, especially in domestic situations and when dealing with population emergencies. But military officers get lots of that training before earning a commission. And military personnel also know that fat politicians in their fancy DC offices who never served in the military a day in their lives obviously wait with baited breath for opportunities to crap all over our service men and women, and our Border Officials for that matter, for ANY breaches of judgement, protocol, or discipline on the battle fields and border skirmishes--never mind when dealing with civilians back home. Any disciplinary infraction by a military member for any reason ranks well above punishing 9-11 terrorists or dealing with a nuclear Iran in Janet Nepolitano's, Eric Holder's, and Obama's America!

So when I read that the military was going along with an exercise intended to create a mindset that any concerned citizen who questions the Government and protests harmful and economically devastating legislation out of frustration IS an enemy and a threat to national security of this nation, and must be handled using force, my stomach sank! I really don't expect politicians to "get it" any more. They are too self centered and too stupid to understand what many generations of men and women fought and died to create and preserve for the rest of us! But the military should recognize the reality that when the people fear Government we end up with tyranny and and they have no excuse for propping up an American Dictatorship. Resign your commissions and go home--but document the facts and report the bastards before you do. Me, I'll continue to march with the TEA Party groups to prevent this scenario from unfolding during my lifetime. But when it becomes official Washington policy to demonize ANYONE who doesn't agree with them and encourage thier lacky media sychophants to push the same message 24-7 in this era of No Facts--Just Spin--Journalism, I see the curtain falling on what used to be a free nation!

Sort of reminds me of the famous cartoon with the cop standing over a body with hundreds of bullet holes announcing to the other investigators "Most determined suicide I've ever seen!"--only the new version of the cartoon will have the lame-stream media instead of the cop reporting on what happened to the bodies of what were unarmed and peaceful TEA Party protestors who dared to carry signs they made at their kitchen tables the night before.

Good work! Vigilance is essential.

I am watching Glenn Beck as he describes Tha underlying player in the Cap and trade scam an particularly thse who are engaged in creating the Carbon exchange.

There is so much going on and it runs so deep. There is no transparency and the the MSM has checked out. Does any body care? Can the America we love survive.

I have retired from the Army as a CW4. And from my experience in dealing with higher ranked RLO'S (real live officers) I can say with certainity these two words, "Bull Shit". The changes were probably made at the rank of O5 LTC, or O6 COL. I suppose they forgot their oath; Support and defend the constitution against all enemies, forgien AND domestic. (Nobama)

God Bless America

nice going. i sent the original to everybody on my contact list.

In regards to your article on the Tea Party Terrorists, and with what is going on in our country today, I have serious reservations about what our Government or ANY of their representatives have to say. Just this morning I received an e-mail from a friend who is a trained observer(due to his previous occupation for 30 yrs.) and the following is a small portion of his e-mail: "These photos are of Mather AFB which closed back in the 90s. You've got to ask yourself: What's with the double fence with razor wire on top, the flood lights and guard tower? If it IS a training area, then why do they need the double fence? This area is in the outskirts of the old base, away from public view." This base is located southwest of Sacramento, Ca..

Look at history and ask yourself: How did Hitler and his "brown shirts" start off in Germany?

L. Morgan

After reading your original post, I wrote two e-mails, one to the American Legion & another to the Vietnam Veterans of America(I'm a proud member of each). I demanded that both veterans organizations demand an apology from the Sec. of Defense down, to ALL veterans for this offensive and misguided exercise of "drunken and lawless" veterans attacking the Gold Depository at Ft Knox. Are there ANY adults in charge of the Army today? Thanks for keeping WE THE PEOPLE informed & enlightened.

Vern Wigley

CSM,USA,Ret,

Dundee, OR

A WWII veteran who served 3 yrs overseas to keep these 'nuts' from our shores and today they live in the White House. LET FREEDOM RING LOUDLY SO THESE 'NUTS' GET THE MESSAGE AND GO BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM. LONG LIVE THE US MILITARY.

We already have a problem if this culture has found its way into even one officer in the Army. How will the American people know that the problem has really been fixed? I agree that this officer should be a civilian for this, but will we ever know that it has happened? The military must demonstrate to their civilian authority, us, that they are still subordinate. So far, they have simply demonstrated that some of them are not. Frankly, I think it is more likely that this order was altered at a high enough level that it still passed through several levels of complacent and complicit commanders and staffs before it reached the bottom.

Again, we must demand that our elected officials not only investigate, but publish what actually happened, at what level, and what is being done about it in order to reassure the public that their military still works for them. If we cannot trust our representatives (and we may not be able to), then we have a whole different set of problems. If we are still assuming we can, then we should demand to know where this originated, who knew about it, and what exactly is happening to the officer that perpetrated this act as well as those that did not object to it.

Thanks for the up-date. I am doing my very best to believe.

May Day (Commie Day) 1970 Ft.Dix,NJ. The place BHO's peace lovin buddy Bill (I never killed anybody except cops,security guards and they don't count)Ayres. I was in medical hold. (disabled vet) no't fit for duty yet.I had a walking cast on my left leg. I was on my bunk talking to the guys. Somebody ran in and hollered come to the day room,theres riots at every Army post. Made my way to the day room and t.v.It was on every channel.They had molotoff cocktails and who knew what else. In less than 30 minits we were on deuce an a halfs with flack jackets 14's and 16's,bandaleers and going in all four directions to man gun pits all over post. That was the first time I experienced hatred from my fellow Americans. It wasn't the last time. Late March early April 71.A buddy and I were on the way in to the USO in Trenton,NJ for an armed forces council meeting.We were council members so you were required to be in uniform for all meetings. We drove right in to a riot of some kind. We were again in danger from our fellow Americans just because we were soldiers. Some g.i. had done something to somebody in the Trenton area.And they were headed to the USO to burn it down. The only thing I can account to Dick and I getting out of danger is our mothers prayers and the grace of God. So much for community organizers and other peace lovin Americans

Regarding "Army Preps for Tea Party 'Terrorists'," can this possibly be anything other than a hoax? If not, it is the best argument for Second Amendment rights I have ever heard.

How would Barry and his pals like being targeted in the same way by the U.S. military?

I was in the Air Force in England in the late 1980's as my unit was drawing down. I wrote a scenario where a group of Islamists attacked our base with regular and chemical weapons. It was deemed "too far-fetched" at the time to be taken seriously. Our "last, best hope" is a military that understands that its primary responsibility is to the Constitution, not to the Government - not even to the President. It seems there was at least one officer that didn't get the memo.

at the age of 82 years and having served this nation as a merchant marine and a staff Sargent in the 2nd armored division, I am more alarmed at the course our president has decided to take than I WAS AT THE TIME OF THE JAPANEESE BOMBING OF PEARL HARBOR. I am appalled at the current president's apparent lack of patriotic attitude toward our nation and his obvious lack of concern for the constitution of this great nation. we are a very blessed nation and posses the finest people on earth.the constitution is a God given document and should be revered as such, especially by our very strange president.

The quote by Mr. Ernest Huber is brave and brilliant and right on the money. This Obama Administration and all of it's corrupt communist machinery is guilty of high crimes against America/Americans and our 233 year old sovereign nation!For their Treasonous acts they should be removed from office immedietely, fined millions of dollars from their Communist bank accounts and stripped of their citizenship and either jailed or given the choice to leave America forever.ENOUGH of the insanity, evil must be dealt with...

While I am reassured that this "rogue" action officer has been reeled in, I am nevertheless disturbed that an officer in the US Army [or any other service] would characterize conscientious American citizens in this fashion. I have been to a couple of Tea Party events. These people are friends of National Defenders and are the salt of the earth, many of them military vets and retirees. The fact that the President of the United States and his Majority Leaders in Congress continue to mischaracterize the Tea Party movement is despicable. If the Two Party system were performing properly there would be no Tea Parties. Officers are taught from the start that the Constitution and the People are their charges to protect and defend. President Obama has divided this country like no other President that I can recall and I am 61. Many of these Tea Party people truly fear some use of Federal Troops in violation of Posse Comitatus in order to shut them up. With rhetoricians in the MSM calling them crackpots, terrorists, wing nuts, and seditionists daily, it is no stretch to see how some errant, or misinformed officer might actually believe the smear and try to "spice up" the exercise. A reprimand and some re-training as to his responsibilities under his oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies, foreign and domestic are in order. Many of my old service comrades are likewise disturbed about the direction of this Administration. This officer's attitudes are "fixable." Sadly, I'm not so certain about the President's attitudes.

Mark

Please?!? Do you really believe that CON-INTEL PRO????

Help! Where do we stand when even our militaty is run by politicos. So much for the no politics policy within our military ranks.

The federal government is getting stranger and stranger as eacn day goes by. I believe tthe next few years are going to be a defining moment in this countrys history, our we going to be a free republic nation under the Constitution or a socialist progressive one world government governed be non elected officials and money people and we have no say in the game.

Mark,

Thanks for the fine work on the military exercises which wrongfully utilized "Tea Party" adversaries.

Honorably discharged,former Army infantryman and cavalry scout.Life memeber of DAV,with a (small ) SC disability.Strict constuctionist,who straddles the grey area between conservative and libertarian.Bill of Rights/US Constitution=VERY IMPORTANT and not to be transgressed.

April 15 of 2009-Remember that lovely speech Janet Napoliano gave RE who she considered to "bear watching" ????She would NOT use the word "Terrorsit" or "terrorism" to describe what some folks have perpetrated on us an dcountless others-yetshe almost gleefully apllied the "extremist" logo to thelikes of us.

I truly fear that this administration is getting in touch with their inner totalitarian/personality cullt a la Stalin,and are expecting many LEOs and serving military to subordinate their oaths to uphold an ddefend the Constituion of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic;to loyalty to our elected /appointed officials.......I wonder how long it will be before all line units/elite formations have an American version of the Zampolit-Political Officer to ensure Revolutionary Fervor and Ideological Conformity.

we can only hope that the American Military continues to uphold an ddefend their oath and traditions.

I'm just paranoid enough to take the explanation with a grain of salt.

Can you believe the statement by Justice Joseph Story? We have heard so many lies by the imposter how can we believe anything we hear. Hillary is still poised to sign the U.N. treaty for a small arms treaty (weapons ban). Knowing that Obama tried a total weapons ban in Illinois I would not believe anything he says regarding our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. I think we all know without doubt what the agenda of the administration is about regarding our weapons. They are well aware that armed citizens prevent tyranny from a dictatorship and a socialist government. To implement their full agenda they will have to disarm us. Justice Story's statement is below.

"The duty imposed upon [the president] to take care, that the laws be faithfully executed, follows out the strong injunctions of his oath of office, that he will 'preserve, protect, and defend the constitution.' The great object of the executive department is to accomplish this purpose; and without it, be the form of government whatever it may, it will be utterly worthless for offence, or defence; for the redress of grievances, or the protection of rights; for the happiness, or good order, or safety of the people." --Justice Joseph Story

I don't believe that this adminstration is one bit concerned with the rule of law or our Constitution.

If we "The People" have to rise up against this government is it treason or self defense? We have a right to protect this country and our constitution,sovereignty, freedons and our Bill of Rights. I am military retired and yes I am armed. We may get the call to lock,load and rock and roll.

Well, you got the US Army's usual reply, someone spoke out of turn and will get a letter placed in their file. End of career.

I sent Alexander's essay to everyone on my email list and contacted staff in two Washington, DC Congressional offices asking for an investigation by the Secretary of the Army.

As a former Congressional staffer, a TEA Party member and Navy wife of 27 years, I have NEVER seen such an abuse of power from those who took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution.

I am frightened to death of what is happening at the top levels of my government, and outraged that those who are aware of it allow it to continue.

As a veteran of Desert Storm, Provide Promise (Bosnia) and Crisis Action Team Executive Officer for United States Air Forces Europe, I am deeply distressed that there are not more officers questioning whether these orders are lawful or not. I fervently hope, that if that day should ever come where our military is called to quell non-violent political dissent, that officers of good character will not only stand down, as did the Russian Army when Yeltsin took power, but that they will place those who gave those orders under arrest. Our officers took an oath to uphold the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, not an oath of loyalty to any individual. Maybe that is why BHO wanted a "civilian defense force as well equipped as the military." Can you spell "SS"? I am saddened that 60 years of liberal indoctrination and lack of education on civics, citizenship and our unique history has brought us to where our nation is today. I further hope that those same military leaders remember that when the people are oppressed, not only have they the right, but the duty to dissolve an unjust government one way or another.

Hank Lade

Lt Col-Ret, USAF

The American military will never turn on the American people. Now Obama's Private forces will, and will make up what ever evidence is needed to support their attacks or agenda.

I pray that our Presidnet re-thinks this statagy to break the backs of good American citizens that are exercising their rights under the Constitution. Simply put, we may all see the American Military back "We the People". Every military person I spoke with (active or inactive) has stated, they we will never have to worry about them turning on the people of this Nation, but will still uphold their oath.

God Bless America

Greg

Looks like some staff puke overstepped his authority.

Amazing, PATRIOTPOST.US exposes malfeasance in the military and there is an almost instant response including denial of reaponsiblity by those in command. That's the easy way out, blame it on a subordiate instead of accepting the responsibility. Those in command need to be reminded of the saying, "THE BUCK STOPS HERE". Too bad the military has some apparent "dodge ball" players in command positions, instead of those with the integrity necessary to be REAL senior officers. I seem to remember some trials conducted in Nuremburg that tried to address that problem.

I was suprised by your essay this morning but I am not surprised by the response from command. I am an "Old Marine" (never Ex) and I am confident my brothers and sisters in arms regardless of the branch of service, would NEVER take an order, such an order as presumed to have been sent down from the Gray House...as being valid or lawful. THAT is the key...it must be a LAWFUL order. Just 'cause that cretan puts out a clap trap directive doesn't mean that those with the means will turn on their families and friends. The wake up call has been placed. and WE are here and we are aware with ANGER and measured visceral (oxymoron?)hatred for all things evil to our nation. WITH PREJUDICE and I am NOT talking racism...I am talking us; that is You Me and our brothers and sisters of ALL races being robbed of our heritage. We will exact a correction starting in November and ending when it does!!

Semper Fi!!

Re: The Army response to your article:

The Fort Knox response is not credible. The signature on the bottom of an OPORDER is a lot higher than a Field-Grade. Signing off on an exercise is a senior command function.

(O-6, USNR-R)

From what I have seen the Tea Party participants have been lawbiding citizens peacefully demonstrating their concerns about the way this Republic is being destroyed by Congress, the President and his Administration. These Americans are being characterized as Bigots, Racists, out of control gangsters and nothing could be further from the truth. It seems our President is constantly calling this nation's citizens to task. He has villified everyone working for Insurance Companies, Banking Concerns etc. These industries are made up of American Citizens. Never in the history of this nation has any President villified groups of Citizens like he has. I think it is time for me to join the local Chapter of the Tea Party

CWO-3 USMC Retired

Please check out the link at the bottom of this post. I read this story this morning before I read this article. I laughed when I read the first story because I know the small community of Quincy, IL. I stopped laughing when I read this story. : http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/04/28/team-obama-calls-out-swat-team-on-tea-party-patriots/

I suppose this amounts to poetic justice in the end. The officer who introduced this scenario is apparently in line for his just reward. Just as well that any officer who would consider Tea Party participants "terrorists" should be subject to a courts martial.

Sure glad to hear not true that this was not true, Massachusetts Tea Party member with enough to worry about already without having to start forwarding to rally friends.

I find this incredible. First the unnamed officer who changed the scenario probably didn't do it without the knowledge and approval of more senior officers. Second, who reviewed and approved the scenario? There shouldn't be "discussions". This should result in formal reprimand and, in my opinion, relief from command. Back in the dark ages a commander was responsible for what happened and blaming the problem on some unnamed individual was an excuse that just didn't fly.

R. Greene, LTC, AUS, retired.

I'm not that gullable as to believe them

A conspiracy doesn't require like-minded people to converse, they must only think and act alike toward the same end. It does appear the current administration has enjoined a group of co-conspirators at levels low enough to create action without oversight....and only a reprimand. After their shots are fired it will be too late. We are truly reaching a scary place.

God Bless True Americans and Our Country.

A Patriot and Veteran

Unless all the leaders such as Jones, Napolitano , Schultz , Franchi , all patriots need to say enough of Washington D C . and band together then the fight is over and turn in the constitution and your guns becouse niether one of them will help you Joe

This is simply politically motivated propaganda meant to malign tea partiers and their movement.

It sounds increasingly like liberals are running so scared of the November election fall-out that they will even resort to ‘provocations’ with potentially inflammatory rhetorical posturing.

Such blatant provocations should at the very least solidify tea partiers, 9/12ers, Oath Keepers, et al. to a single cause.

This will back fire on the administration in the end, and harden support for the movement!

And if the scenario ever plays out where the Obama administration and military labels and targets legitimate tea party, patriotic Americans as terrorists, we all stand ready to fight!

Let it then be the 'new' "shot hard around the world."

I'm an AF officer and I ran the exercise and evaluation shop (AFTER 9/11) at a major Air Force installation for two of my three years assigned to the wing and NEVER once during that time did we even propose nor would we ever have proposed such an outrageous scenario.

The officer in charge of this exercise should be removed from their position and severely reprimanded. There is no excuse for this. As citizens, we are entitled to hold our own political positions. As military members, we are obligated to "support and defend the Constitution", while keeping our personal political beliefs just that, personal, not public. This officer needs to be scrutinized to ensure their conduct exemplifies the high standards to which military members are expected to adhere.

As the great philosopher Pogp said: "We have met the enemy and if is us". So very sad.

My commissioning oath held me to a higher sat dad than this!

It sounds (to me) like passing the buck from the White House down to command staff at Ft. Knox. I do also believe the White House told command staff to think there was a directive from the White House to command staff to 'fall on their swords' for this one.

I don't trust anything coming from the White House.

Now that we are hearing the "excuses" from the brass, one has to wonder. This isn't some individual decision for kicks. SOME ONE or MANY in the military ranks are trying to destroy the bond between the military and the American people. The people always support the military (frankly,it's the last government agency we still respect and trust!). If the American people could be turned against the military (thinking that the military turned against US) that would be a very devious and effective "divide & conquer" technique. One in which I am sure Saul Alinsky and his accolytes in the current Federal Govt. would approve.

The officer who provided that update was relaying the CG's CYA message.

Instead of being counseled, the officer who made the change should be adminstratively, or as a result of a GCM, dismissed from the service.

The troops should be told, directly by the GC, that the exercise was a mistake, that it could never happen in the real world, and what punishment was meted out to the officer responsible, although I suspect the officer responsible was the CG.

This sailor is an old man now but it doesn't take much muscle to pull the trigger. Someone said, and I paraphrase, if it is to be, let it be now so that my children and grandchildren will not have to do it. So, bring it on BO, and lets get it over with.

Oh, and hi there NSA and Echelon. You can stick it where the sun don't shine!

Pity the poor Field Grade Officer who is going to be thrown to the wolves... RIP.

Are you serious ?? I do believe the Government AND the Military need to re-read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights! In The United States Of America, we have the right to Freedom of Assembly and the Freedom to Lawfully and Peacefully Protest anything of which we disagree! We are not going to stand by and watch The Obama Administration disrespect our Country or the Men and Women who have given their lives to protect her. This Administration is treading on dangerous ground! Shame on him for trying to destroy our Constitution and the American way of life. The Tea Party Members I am aware of are mostly Senior Citizens, who know exactly what is happening to our beloved America! We are Not Racist, we are Not Violent,we are just Not going to take it anymore!!!

No one is going to turn These United States Of America into a Socialized European Nation, No one! What amazes me, is the Democratic Party's willing compliance with this plan! It is a sad time in America, when we are saying out loud, we are afraid for our Freedom ! We are afraid for our children and grandchildren's future Freedoms. God Bless America, "The Land Of The Free and Home of The Brave!"

It would appear that Command at Ft. Knox is to allow anyone in the loop to change whatever they want. That in itself should warrnat an investigation.

After the slaughter in Texas, you would think the Army would get better control of their people.

Who is in Command ???

Democrats, as has been their quest for generations, in turning our nation into a state of government entitlement reliant peoples, are now feeling threatened by the voices of our self-reliant, self- responsible and clear thinking citizens, a.k.a. the Tea Party.

Hence, they revert to the standards liberals have used for years when confronted with rational thought and common sense. Name calling, finger pointing and blame is the progressive order of the day.

November is TOOOOOO Far away. I do not trust this administration, they will plant people at the Teaparties (Already done it) to cause problems and could incite trouble. That said I hope more of you now, will join us at the Teaparty Rallies to save our country. Together we can stop this take over of our country. But we must stand together!!!!

God Bless America & Our Troops Fighting For Freedom

We need cameras at every event too, for proof of any problems and where they originate from.

Wear your Red White & Blue and bring flags!!!!

Another thing clear across this nation we should all be flying our flags so we know who we can trust and I want to see flags in businesses so I can patronize my brothers & sister Patriots in this nation. Lets all fly our flags proudly everyday!!!!

I really don't fear the military because they are US citizens, too. However: I do fear our current government.

In full disclosure, I am active Army and have been for 10 years.

We do these force protection exercises on installations to walk through the plans and execution of potential threats to military installations. It usually involves a few GS-14/13s/12s (civilians) at the IMCOM on the installation and they are in the G2 shop. They would be the ones on Ft. Knox who develop the "threat stream" for the intelligence to feed the exercise. The officers involved (likely a COL sitting in the G2) approve the exercise but rarely see the actual "threat intelligence" that provokes the implementation of FORCEPRO OPPLANs.

Now, that said I've taken part in planning and execution of FORCEPRO exercises post 9/11 and we used everyone from Al Qaeda, to eco-nazi terrorists, to Republic of Texas (I was at Ft. Hood) nutjobs. We do this to illustrate the depth of threats that could affect an Army installation, not how likely they are. Again, its usually some government service worker who devises the "threat" in this and that could be anyone they want it to be. Would a tea party rally ever demonstrate next to a military base? Not unless it was in support of it (having been to a few rallies myself, see my twitter stream of the same name).

Is this the tip of the iceberg? No. We're not going through an exercise like this to my knowledge on my installation. Is this the start of a trend? Not likely unless something came down from Big Army DA G2 and you'd find someone along the way to bust that out, I promise you.

I find it rather disturbing that as I am researching I.V. Stalin and the Ukrainian genocide of 1932-1933, that I see a rather frighting similarity between Stalin's tactics in his collectivization efforts of the Ukraine and the Obama administrations tactics to push forward their socialist agenda.

1) Stalin- regarded the Ukrainian people with particular suspicion after the Russian civil war of 1918-1920. The Ukrainian people fought with the White Guard and against the Bolshevik/ Red Guard.

2)Obama Admin.- regarded the majority of Tea Activist with greater suspision after the 2009 goveners elections where the Tea Party Activist really started to be vocal against his policies and voted against his party. His poll numbers also dropped and he was no longer the political darling.

3)Stalin- Declared the Kulaks or prosperous pesants of Ukraine as "enemies of Soviet authority, by Social Revolutionaries and Polish Agents with the purpose of conducting agitation 'by means of peasants' against the collective farms and Soviet authority in general in the northern districts of the USSR." (Top secret instruction given by Party Central Committee Secretary Stalin and Soviet Prime Minister Molotov, 22 January 1933)

4)Obama Admin.- Declaring the Tea Party group and those who share anti-govt. sentiments as something that the FBI needs to put on their watch list and the military is now preparing to defend against.

Are we an enemy? Stalin declared the Ukraine people as an enemy because they were among the few nations in the Russian collection to have strong opposition to his policies and socilism. Obama does not like our opposition to his socilism either. He may not be able to starve us into submission or send us to labor camps, but he will brand us as traitors and tax us into the grave.

Nice to see the upper echelon reads the Patriot Post.

Right. I'd love to know the political affiliations of the Command Staff at Ft Knox. If this President wishes to divide America as was done in the middle 1800's, it will be good to know who's who. I think I'll find out.

It seems to me that Obama is following the course of one of his favorite mentors, Abrham Linoln Lincoln stirred up trouble with South Caorlina, one of the hot head states, by lying about his entensions for Ft. Sumpter. South Caroline atacked the Ft. giving Lincoln the provication he needed to call up troops.

I think he's trying to agitate someone into over reacting. Lets hope cooler heads are prevalent.

The constitution has never recovered from Lincoln's actions.

Since when has the Posse Commitatus Act been repealed and the Army authorized to do domestic law enforcement, especially at political functions like Tea Party rallies? I’ve read the Patriot Act and analyses of it and find nothing there that does, much less overrides the First Amendment and federal court case law under it.

With organized efforts and Web sites like CrashtheTeaParty.com/org openly intended to promote and incite torts and crimes to discredit the Tea Party, it looks like the legitimately constituted law enforcement authorities within the U. S. should be planning for that.

Hey, I love this new Comments form except that, using a decently large type size not as shouting but so us old guys can see it [there being no Spell Check] causes much of the comment to roll out of sight. I usually compose in Word and paste in to solve these problems.

It's a relief to know the armed forces weren't practicing against tea party folks, as this is what we all fear. Change will come, but it needs to be done responsibly, and hopefully peacefully.

Don't forget the pretender in the White House has reportly asked for Russian use of their 3th and 4th special forces brigades to help put down cilivian unrest if their called upon. I have no proof that he actualy did that but it came from a FRIENDLY source in the Govt. For this old man, former US Army SFC(SOG) and retired LEO, they better bring along their lunch because it take them a while.

De Oppresso Liber (Sure hope the russians speak Latin)

Yeh! Another CYA load of BS, and a poor underling will suffer the consequences so that an "higher-up" will not have to sweat!

I feel sorry for the poor "underling" who will suffer for doing his/her duty!

The Rev. Dr. M. A. Kunkle, NRA TC

Harold, Don and Jim,

The Guard et al troops are in Afghanistan doing exactly what a civilian troop takeover would encompass...house to house/search and seize/quarantine, etc. They are training on bases now for urban warfare. The Marxist playbook is followed exactly-he who controls the economy controls the people! I emphatically agree with you! At Tea Parties I've attended, those people were not there. Had they come, we would have politely asked them not to taint our goals and achievements. Bcz it is grassroots, there are many diverse views-united by one theme: the government is too big, taking too much money from our paychecks!

OK, so how many of you believe the 1st vs the 2nd explanation?

Officers do not change orders or they burn for it and they know it. So this is a no brainer for me, someone is taking a fall for this weather they did it or not.

i thought it is against the law for the president to use the army against united states citizens --- is that correct?

if it is --- and he does --- he should be impeached without hesitation --- sry about the spelling

1. In the military, the commander is always responsible, even if the G-3 was running the exercise. 2. Note the words used: “more realistic”. According to whom? The use of those words appears to confirm that some in the military truly believe that Tea Party members, and those who simply express anger, disgust, and dissatisfaction with the unconstitutional actions of government, are breaking the law because they demand that the Law be obeyed. The Constitution is the Law of The Land and any law or government-actor action which is not in conformance with the actual words used in it is, by definition, unlawful. 3. While there may be some 5th columnist Oathkeepers inside the ranks, an active advertising and recruiting operation needs to be initiated.

This article is proof that there are factions in our own government and military that are dangerous to a free society. Please keep up the good work of spreading the truth and hopefully in the near future those anti-freedom minded individuals will be in a position to no longer cause problems in our society.

Seemingly a little off subject, but categorically relevant to the socialist’s agenda; liberals are attempting to quietly push Puerto Rico statehood through congress.

Why would they all of the sudden do this, some may ask? Well because they again are fearful of the power loss in November that will thwart their Maoist agenda.

And who do you suppose liberals are pandering too in doing this act? Of course, they are pandering to the Latino vote. How do most Latinos vote, well, they vote democrat!

They will stop at nothing, nothing at all to hold onto power and prolong the pushing of their Socialist agenda.

We are being blindsided daily by the programs and legislation Obama and his administration are perpetrating on the American people.

See where this is going? Doesn’t anyone else see this???

It's reassuring to know that the perpitrator of this travesty will "receive appropriate counsel." Somehow I suspect that means legal counsel, not the 3-months in the brig he or she deserves.

As a retired Regular Army officer with 30 yrs of active service, I'm disgusted with the political correctness of some brother officer, who would never even dream of writing an exercise scenario where the enemy attacking Fort Knox is an Islamic jihadist strike force, but rather is depicted as a horde of "Tea Party" patriots and further described as the lunatic fringe of American society.

Apparently that Army staff officer listened a bit too closely to the Army Chief of Staff's disgusting reaction on national TV to the Hassan murders at Fort Hood, in which General Casey worried more about the potential damage to "diversity" ideals than the blood shed by our own soldiers (who, incidentally, were prohibited by military regulations from relying on their Second Amendment right to bear personal weapons in self-defense). May Almighty God save us from our loopy comrades!

I guess that we best pray that the unfortunate incident was just that !! Methinks, however, that we might be in a harder fight than any anticipated as certain in the power chain fear We The People.

I hope the person that contacted you wasn't from the Office of the Inspector General at Fort Knox. Their motto (at Knox, and everywhere else): "We're here to help!". Next thing they say is: "Bend over!"

The fact that high ranking officers saw this and okayed the exercise shows a stunning infection of Leftism into our military. On the heels of the bizarre reaction by the brass to the terror attack at Ft Hood, this is most alarming.

A sane, competent C-in-C would order a top-down investigation into the chain of command and how political agendas have affected military mindsets, and do whatever it takes to correct that deficiency. A Leftist, politically correct military is a terribly expensive but utterly useless enterprise.

All of that is above and beyond the stunning attitude toward shown toward peaceful Americans exercising their Constitutional rights. Do the Leftists pushing this propaganda truly believe our sons and daughters in the US military will fail to recognize unarmed, peaceful civilians when they see us? If these Leftists truly believe they can order our military to turn upon us, then they are FAR more insane than I suspected. What's bizarre is that virtually all the violence in these protests has come from the Left. We had hundreds of demonstrations scattered all across the country involving millions of Americans from every walk of life and there was zero violence, virtually no arrests, no bodily injuries -- hell, we even cleaned up our rubbish on the way out! When the police bother to show up at all, they're smiling, dressed in their regular uniforms (with one exception), and they know there won't be any trouble.

Contrariwise, last week the Left held ONE protest in Arizona and the result was a full-blown riot, scores of arrests, numerous injuries, threats of murder, and the police showed up in full riot gear because they knew the Leftists would cause trouble.

But Ft Knox wanted to prepare for violence by US?? That's lunacy.

It is time for all good people yo come to the aid of their country

It would be nice to know how many of these officers and senior NCO's are (like me) "Oathkeepers."

I've recently had conversations (before this ruckus came to our attention) with several friends who are active duty officers in the US Army. I have asked these fine gentlemen in very direct terms, "What would be your response if you were ordered to point your weapons and fire upon US citizens peacefully demonstrating against the current administration?"

To a man, they all laughed at the prospect of such a ridiculous scenario - but when pressed, all became very uncomfortable with the premise. By uncomfortable, I mean that they couldn't conceive of ever being put in such a position - and even then, didn't believe their chains of command would ever issue such orders. Still I pressed, "What if you DID receive such an order?" Every one of them said they would refuse to comply.

I find it incredible that this scenario even came to my mind several months ago, but now it seems I was not so far off base. I was taught as a youngster that our government existed to serve the People of this great Country, but that sometimes the folks running the government found ways for it to serve themselves. Well, here we are - self-serving government on steroids.

All of us reading this blog realize the United States of America is at a crossroads. Where we go as a nation will be decided by us as a people whether we choose take action, or whether we choose to sit back and do nothing. We all have to decide, and we don't have a lot of time to make the decision. Sort of like Adams, Jefferson, and Washington didn't have much time to decide.

I believe the situation is that dire; that everyone of us needs to ask ourselves - and everyone we know - what we will do when we are staring down the barrels of US Army issue M-16's, wielded by our fellow countrymen in uniform.

God help us all.

Calm down, people.

1. This was an exercise scenario, NOT an OPORDER.

2. Scenarios are written by junior staff officers, reviewed by the Intelligence or Operations Officer (G2, G3, S2, or S3), and usually rewritten by staff officers several times before being issued. The G2 or S2 may or may not have seen the final version after last minute changes. (Been there, done that many times.)

3. The organization's CG or CO may well have not even seen this scenario or been aware of it other than to hear from his G2 (or S2) that it had been or was being prepared.

4. The scenario would not, by itself, have caused even one trooper to even get out of bed early. No, it was not a LEGAL order because it was not an ORDER.

Let's not rush to judgment and panic. That's what the leftists want us to do; that would justify more drastic action in their eyes.

I am deeply concerned how this Government perceives the Tea Party movement. They want to think that it is a fringe group. It is nothing of the sort. They are regular Americans deeply concerned about the direction this Country is being guided by the Obama/Pelosi/Reid is taking it. I have put my life on the line for a free America. I didn't put it on the line for America to become socialist. I pray this Country wakes up and votes these criminals out of office. I pray for my children and my grandchildren. What kind of country are we turning over to them?

I think the U.S. Army should spend more time protecting themselves against the ravages of Sodomy that prevails within their ranks & leave the Tea Bags alone..

It's coming. Even some law officers acknowledge the possibility.

"Apprpriate council" for the solder who altered the response scenario should include dishonorable dischage for the dishonor they brought to the millions of americans who wholly or partially affiliate themselves with the Tea Party. But I'm sure the "PC" approach will include a mandatory 4 hour training session for all personnel on how "inclusiveness" equates the Tea Party as well as Muslem extremists, and their right to protest the US Government.

I would like to think all of this is a joke, but I know better. We have a crew in DC that is openly hell bent on destroying this country, going as far as insuring that we would not win in Iraq by not providing the funding the military needs to sustain operations anywhere, never mind an active combat zone. I remember seeing the homeland security brief that considers myself, and all other returning veterans, as potential "lone wolf terrorists". That's a great "thank You for your patriotic service and dedication to this once great nation". The path of the liberals is quite "open", and very unconstitutional to say the least. If we soldiers behaved as our government is, we would be brought up on charges and tried via the laws of the UCMJ, and could potentially be sentenced to death. How can the officials swear the same oath as us, turn around and blatantly break their oaths, and not only remain in office without legal charges being brought against them, and then get re-elected. Time to wake up people !!!. I have defended against our foreign enemies, now it appears we may have to take our country back from our domestic enemies.

Re: Army Preps for Tea Party

The can be no doubt that the individual responsible for this absurdity is a Left Wing Lunatic of the "osama"/reid/pelosi brand. The question becomes, what if any input from the "osama" regime was involved in this action. It is difficult to conceive on any officer preparing something(and risking serious consequences to his/her military future) so totally absurd without having received not just input but approval (and possible assurances concerning serious repercussions) from those within the regime.

This definitely requires a Congressional Investigation.

It is not so much that we need to "take back" what is already ours so much, but rather what those of us that put our time in the military service have sworn to do. That is, we swore to protect this country and the Constitution from ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC! There are many enemies within our borders, as I am sure that most of the prudent, mature, thinking, adults and even some minors have determined. As for me, I will work with those that want to do it right, but I will not support those that want to take over this country thinking that WE are not capable of making our own decisions...they call themselves "elitists" and I truly believe they are more ignorant then the rest of the real partriotic Americans.

Read every one---took a while. ssc700; hello."Well Said!"

We as Americans have a constititional right to free and peacefull assembly for the redress of grievences. When a goverment denies it citizens thier right to peacfull assembly for the redress of grievences what other options is left? Today as we stand together to voice our grievences with an administration who regards "we the people" as mere subjects and not citizens, they ignore our voice as we call for the restoration of the constitutional limits on our goverment. We are held by this administration to a double standard, a standard that continuely excuses thier behavior and vilifies "we the people" as malcontents, biggots, and racists. They are the party of the RACE CARD, so if we "The People" have to rise up against this government in self defense. We shall do so only as a last resort. We have a right to protect ourselves, our country and our constitution. I am an old Marine, and I will fight like one with my brothers. We will prepare for war, but tonight I will pray for peace. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child (grandchild) may have peace." —Thomas Paine · "

Do I understand that a major exercise was conducted and the Command staff was not aware of the purpose?

Is this normal at that base?

I think someone is lying, or someone should not be in command.

Well, UH, do we belive this, or was the George Soros funded militia unable to perform on time?

I tend to believe the army since I am a retired USCG officer, but there is that lingering doubt that the wackos might try to put up a violent demonstration and be covered in TEA party slogans. They are NOT beneath doing that.

Here is something I have not read in the comments as yet. As a matter of historical fact, in the middle of the Great Depression, the "Bonus Army" of WWI veterans were fired upon with machine guns. THey were in DC; they wanted their war bonus now; the government had previously stated that no bonus was to be paid out. Many were killed. Such bright lights , serving officers in the then USA Army, George Patton, MacArthur and others, were the officers in charge of this murderous incident. All of these fellows were obviously promoted to some rank of GENERAL, or another. Payment for faithful allegiance by a grateful government. I think that should persuade people in general, that any career officer, currently serving would NOT disobey orders to machine gun USA citizens. Veterans or not. In fact, the veterans will probably targeted first, under the theory that veterans HAVE military experience and therefore be a greater threat against the 'domestic tranquility'. And remember ANYTHING that has happened ONCE, will absolutely happen again. given the "correct" circumstances. This isn't paranoia, this is a historical fact.

Fortunately, this country was founded by a tea party,and perhaps its time to throw the tea in the harbor and start over.I'm a vietnam vet, 2 purple hearts, bronze star,and I'm ASHAMED of where our country is going.

Bruce

What does "appropriate counsel" mean? Answer: "Good job - too bad you got caught."

As an active duty soldier with the Sixth Amrd Cav.,back in April 1968,I had to help put down riots stated when Dr.King was assasinated.

There were no peacful Tea Party type gatherings.These were the local D.C.population burning down buildings,while their breteran were still in the buildings.These people were flaming lunatics.

There are no lunatics in the Tea Party.I hope that late comunication from Ft.Knox,is true.

E-Mail to David Ignatious of the Washington Post

Your column about political procrastination and the need for a value added tax to prevent our financial collapse is true but specious. The solution is not more taxes but less spending. A congressman is proposing a 1% tax on every transaction excluding stock sales. The solution is always more taxes. Do you really think a value added tax will reduce the federal deficit? Politicians will only spend it and continue to raise the tax. President Obama and his handlers have no intention of reducing spending.. His current Debt Commission is just more window dressing. Commissions like the Hoover and Grace commissions made good recommendations but were disregarded as expected. We currently have Unions, of all people, staging large demonstrations in New York against Wall St. and people rioting in Phoenix regarding the new immigration monitoring legislation and Congress taking Goldman Sachs over the coals when it was Congress and all its minions who are most at fault for not doing their job and monitoring the financial industry and actually promoting and tasking banks to continue offering toxic mortgages that were destined to fail.

Meanwhile, the Obama administration and the Democrats act like inmates who have taken over the asylum. Last year I saw a brief interview with Thomas Sowell, economist, author and teacher who was asked what he thought of the state of the government and our entitlement culture in Washington. He indicated the he believed the country has reached a tipping point beyond which it soon would be impossible for any party to resurrect. He said he hated to say it but he believed it would probably take a military take over of the government to bring a halt to this insanity and get us on the right track.

I hope General Petraeus and some planners at the Pentagon are currently gaming how to implement such a scenario.

Peter J. Brock

2115 Platinum Drive

Sun City Center, Fl.

It seems to me that when Liberal Groups congrigate and have a protests it takes the sanitation department two days and $20,000 to clean up after them. When the "Tea Party's" hold a gathering, it is civil, clean and most of the people have clean signs that are not obscene or profane. When they leave, you can't even tell anyone was there.

A lot has been said about how dangerous these people are, that they are the type that blew up the Federal Bldg. in Texas. It is strange that it was done on the 2nd anniversary of the Waco masacure. Janet Reno and Bill Clinton were the people behind the anger that blew that building up.

Isn't the use of Fed military forces against the citizens prohibited by the Constitution???? Was that not a central point of contention about the mess at Mt Calm near Waco?

Must be a lot of work to cover that many backsides that fast. Wouldn't it be interesting to determine the method, content, and results of the "counseling"? No worries there...right?

I found this kind of drill very offensive. I’m 60 years old and would like to see the constitution and the bill of rights restored, as would most “Tea Party” members. All of our demonstrations have been peaceful and left the land in better condition then when we got there because we picked up after our selves. We believe in the laws of America and doing things with in the laws of the land unlike many in our government. We will peacefully demonstrate until good faith changes are made.

I think it would be well to remind this "officer"

that the "Tea Parties" that they are practicing their little manueuvers against are the same people that have been sending care packages, phone cards, Christmas cards, get well cards and the same people providing escorts and honor guards for funerals and keeping lefty protestors off Military hospitals.

Doug--The people at the Christian compound in Waco had violated NO federal laws before they were attacked! A federal agent fired the first shot as she was exiting a cattle trailer and that started the attack. Koresh was on the phone with 911 trying to get the feds to stop the attack. The result of the Clinton/Reno attack was over 80 innocent men, women, and CHILDERN murdered by the Federal government. At that time Albright stated that the greatest threat to America is armed Christians.

So do I assume from their assessment, "these groups are armed, have combative training and some are former Military Snipers. Some may have explosives training / experience", that any time there is a gathering of ANY type of law enforcement we should assume that they mean to shoot unarmed civilians, because that has happened in the past?

For those of you that don't believe the military will fire on civilians, better think again!

Last year I had a conversation with my career Navy son (an E6 with 15 yrs in....he's an Master at Arms LE/SP in other branches) because of something I read about using the military in a civil disturbance. The enlisted military is already indoctrinated! My son would not questions orders to fire on civilians! So I talked about him being a Christian and that didn't matter either. If there are orders to fire because there is civil unrest, he would do so.

I told him that when I was on active duty (AF), we took an oath to uphold the Constitution and he says he did also but that after 9/11 things changed. I sure hope and pray that it's just the career field he's in and not the whole military. It's still wrong any way you look at it.

Ref Update: Too little to late. I doubt the Command Staff was in the dark on this for very long. Not until the Patriot Post brings this to the light of day do we see a retraction from the Command Staff. Why weren't orders issued timely to rescind and revise the scenrio? Based on the time lines given, the first intel wasn't issued this week.

They damn sure better not approve of such excercises. The military sware an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the United States of America, not a political party or for that matter a President. The officer that altered the orders should be busted to buck private and walk a fence line in the artic circle. What an outrage!

Wait until the 2012 elections draw near. There is big trouble on the horizon for this country.

Let us hope that this 'alleged' perp was not acting under orders but was in fact, A loose connection.

The great thing about video cameras is that they record and this can cause embarrassment. In the good old days, they would have gotten away with this.

God bless our troops, especially if/when they are troubled by their own commander and chief or the higher ranks who might be motivated more by political outcomes than reality. There is almost no way for civilians to thank the people in the military enough...and to many of us, it seems as if the troops have been fighting with no break since 9-11-2001.

However, this summer in Washington D.C. on 8-28-10, it MIGHT be possible to show up and be respectful to our troops and especially to their leaders:

http://www.glennbeck.com/828

In this case, I believe appropriate counseling includes a General Officer Letter of Reprimand containing the phrase..."Makes decisions above his/her pay grade" or words to that effect.

I served in the Army myself as a medic in Vietnam, and I might ad with pride. Since then however through my career in International business I have had periodic contact with our armed forces as well as our Embassies overseas. Among other events I was in Tehran when it fell and that was only the first a number of eyebrow raising events. Personal experiences leave me somewhat apprehensive as to what they might do if so ordered. I was struck by what I felt was a very different mind set from when I was in among NCO's and mid level officers with regard to "the" mission. It seemed more a business matter then anything else.

This administration has been the most deceptive, dishonest and underhanded of any possibly in the history of this country. If the Commander and chief orders action they serve him not you and I. I would like to believe the latest exchange you reported on from Fort Knox but I feel a need to maintain a degree of vigilance and a watchful eye that would never have occurred to be before.

In light of my experiences the subsequent conduct of United States Military officers murdering fellow soldiers and the response to that is to prepare for TEA Party attacks this can lead me to believe only one thing, we are in more trouble than I imagined.

You just have to hope if the time ever arrives that the military will truly uphold their oath to the constitution and not to an unamerican socialist president (I cringe every time I call him the president).

God help us!

What a great job. Thanks for staying at post! Vic

The question remains unanswered:

What was the purpose of thesecurity exercise at Ft. Knox

@Nicole: How do you link a protest on 2ND Amendments rights to the Tea Party? That's quite a stretch. You have quite the vaccuous imagination.

On to point. I spent 15 years in the Guard and the RA. I have never given up my oath. It still stands. Any member of the Armed Forces who would follow such a scenario is no countryman of mine and I have no need of their counsel.

As Samuel Adams said:

"..Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may

posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”

Just curious - suppose you had not brought this to our attention - and apparently to the attention of those in higher command position - isn't it possible that a very unfortunate incident could have occurred? I am a Tea Partier and I have a never seen anything but enthusiasm and good natured patriotism. We are serious but not violent. Thanks for keeping us informed and speaking the truth wherever it needs to be spoken.

I hope this is not to just save face with thousands that have read the original message. I have 31 years of military service(all active duty) so it was difficult for me to believe what I read. The Officer that made things more realistic is not really a good Officer! Thanks for setting things straight.

Ralph

Thank you very much for updating us on something so important

Clarification; the incident speaking of a military officer murdering fellow soldiers should have been singular and I was referring to the Islamic fundamentalist, I believe he was a psychiatrist.

Ref. their excuse - "The command staff informed me that the alterations were not approved at the command level and that the individual who circulated the scenario through official channels will "receive appropriate counsel." I was assured that the Command staff would not have authorized such a scenario." UH HUH! Sure! MEANING: Some poor LtC or Maj. becomes the scape goat and takes the heat. Some things never change.

God help us all. I hope our military never has to choose sides between our freedom (spelled Constitution) and our political elite.

I think people should tell there sons and daughters not to ever draw there weapons on Americans no matter what Obama tells them.

Long ago(early 70s) while our current president was either growing up in Indonesia or living in luxury in Hawaii, we Airlifters moved US Army troops to guard government people and property within the United States.. We were guarding against people like obama's friend Bill Ayres and his mad bombers in the Weather Underground Terrorist organization. The flower children and viet cong sympathizers did not like it then, any more than they like the TEA Partiers now.

May God Our Heavenly Father have Mercy on the USA.

Read Philippians 4 and Ezekiel 38 and 39

The blood of American Patriot's will flow.

I work with the military; I completely support them and their mission. I honor their dedication and service; BUT I know one day in the near future, these young men and woman will be called out to face angry crowds of Americans protesting against the policies of their government. At some point the situation will become ugly, a sharp crack will be heard, was it a shot? There will confusion. The order WILL be passed and it WILL BE OBEYED. That's what they are trained for, they will fire into the crowd.

I do not condom the solders, latter they will hate what was done and may cry over the action. It happened at Kent State, it will happen again. Our government will order the military to suppress the coming uprising. I pray that after the first blood is shed, the leaders in our Armed Forces will stop the illegal and un-Constitutional use of force against Americans. I pray for a peaceful restoration of our Constitution and Bill of Rightss, but I believe it will only come at the price of American patriot’s blood.

Pray for Peace, but prepared to defend our Liberty!

Way to go Patriot Post!!!

Thanks for faithfully standing for our God given, and Constitutionally guaranteed liberties.

The trouble with the idea that the U.S. military would never fire on its own citizens is a bit naive. Have we forgotten about the Kent State shootings. It happened in Kent, Ohio on Monday, May 4, 1970. The national guard fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis. Some of the students who were shot had been protesting against the American invasion of Cambodia, which President Richard Nixon announced in a television address on April 30. Other students who were shot had been walking nearby or observing the protest from a distance. None of the students were armed. So if you really think the military will never fire upon its own citizens, think again. While they may not be willing participants, they can become victims of mass hysteria, be to afraid to question orders from superiors, or feel they would appear weak. And that is the problem. Those in charge, the high ranking officers who would be complicant in this are in a position to stop it but will not out of fear of their own careers and livelyhoods after retirement. It will take the middle eschelon of leadership to step up and stop it before it happens again, but I don't see that occuring.

Frankly, the fact that serving officers of the Army had this concept for an exercise with this script says very bad things about the officer corps in general.

I would think that 99.9% of all 2LT would think this is a bad idea on the first pass...I would have hoped that other 0.1% would have been weeded out as idiots before they did any real damage...let alone get promoted...

Sounds like a Nuremberg defense coming up...

I'm retired military, am proud of my service and have always considered myself nothing but a patriot. I love my country but fear for her and wher we're being led. That said, I hope I have the huevos for what may be coming...I truly fear for my children and grandchildren and will defend them, with my life, if I must.

This is beyond insane. Our military holding an exercise wherein firing on civilians isincluded, yet not being allowed to fire on border-jumping drug dealers is a good picture of what is wrong in America today. I attended the Tax Day Tea Party here in Wheeling, WV and I can assure you, there were no drunks, no armed thugs (as in obama polling places)and the attendees could not have been better behaved. I never warmed to Gates' appointment and I have to wonder if he was part and parcel of this endeavor. America is scaring the hell out of me...

During the late 50's and early sixties. The D.O.A. had intelligence units draw up plans to circumvent "local familiarity" designating non local Guard units to be used for group control and law enforcement purposes.

Basically, this meant that if there were a problem in Virginia the state Guard could not be used for fear that local Guard would be reluctant to fire on or arrest their Friends and neighbors.

I'm sure those plans are still on file.

Some day every member of the military, police, FBI and Secret Service will face a decision. To either obey unconstitutional orders against the citizens of our country or repress the people.

Spook

called US as we the people a {terrorist} that is wrong of full. we the people of the united states that was is god given to american people as we the people as untied we stand to be a patriot to defense our country and i tell u something if person is unamerican is meaning is a terrorist and gang member is terrorist what hack called to tea party a T-word get hack out my or our country trun me off now

While it is somewhat of a relief to know from the update, that senior command did not devise the subject training scenario "as issued", it is still worrisome that some (presumably) mid-grade personnel are so poorly educated, or are conditioned to swallowing whole the misinformation fed them by the "mainstream" media, that they would concoct this obscenity. Evidently the World War II Wehrmacht wasn't the only place where "just following orders" is the normal way of life.

Just to clear up a point, Nicole. You were kind of mixing apples and oranges. The original statement was that "tea Party" protesters were not carrying arms etc. The armed marches that you alluded to were Second Amendment supporters, not Tea Parties. And even all the Second Amendment marches were not armed, mostly the right to concealed carry supporters.

sometimes the fox gets caought in the hen house!!!

no wonder goverment as at all time low for trust

I consider Obama to be a villain! He has put this nation in great peril. We are on a collision course with a righteous God who will judge us both as a nation and individually. Consider Hebrews 4:13

Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. Pray for Obama and remember Hebrews 10:31.

It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

We can not continue to accommodate evil. Reverend Franklin Graham and the Tea Party Patriots were denied their 1st amendment right, the right to speak the truth freely.

After talking with a few of my friends who were officers, and I admit the word there is were, I believe officers of our military will stand by to uphold the Constitution no matter what the president and his staff tell them to do. That is what the Oath Keepers swear by.

I am afraid - for my family, my children and my grandchildren - and I know there will come a time when this generation will not be here to guide them, but I have no doubt my children will lead my grandchildren into believing in the Constitution and what is right. I also believe this "uprising" by The People is where we are being led. Of course, I'm also afraid the muslims will out number all of us one of these days and then I hate to think what will happen.

OK, call me crazy now

Seems like komerade Obama is getting ready to open Pandora's Box.Let's pray that all military officers live up to the oath they took when accepting their commission. Where in hell is the indignation that should be coming from the Halls of Congress?

I worked at the Command Level of a Division such as the Second Armored. I can guarantee you that to back out of this at the last minute is pure 2-Star, Flag-Officer politics. The G3 with input from the G1 and G2 staff sections and guidance from the Commander did the general scenario. After about 3 to 6 months of planning and input, the plan came together and it was unique and reduced to writing and final copy, only it was signed by the G1 (usually a light Colonel,) NOT the Commander, which is typical. Once the cat left the bag, the Commanding General can always disavow everything as not having been "approved" by him/her. It's been that way since 'way before Vietnam.

"I love my country, but I fear my government."

What better action for Pres. Obama to carry out at the peaceful Tea Party rallies then to have them surrounded by military forces in order to make the attendee's appear as if they are dangerous. There is a method to Pres. Obama's madness.

The officer responsible for this should be court-martialed, discharged from the United States Army with a Dishonorable Discharge and forfeit all retirement benefits!

Dear Sirs: How disappointed...I am with the Army "war-gamers". One couldn't find a more gentle, NON-THREATENING group, than "tea-baggers." Only a few "tea-baggers" have EVER caused any problems, and all of those were later found to have been leftist, AGENT-PROVOCATEURS, NOT, genuine tea-baggers. To have an "exercise" against tea-baggers, is like the Marines training to deploy against Quakers/Mennonites/Buddists--it simply makes NO SENSE! How simply STUPID...today's Army is!

Frankly, the fact that serving officers of the Army had this concept for an exercise with this script says very bad things about the officer corps in general.

I would think that 99.9% of all 2LT would think this is a bad idea on the first pass...I would have hoped that other 0.1% would have been weeded out as idiots before they did any real damage...let alone get promoted...

Sounds like a Nuremberg defense coming up...

Sounds like standard 'damage control' to me.

This was undoubtedly supposed to be a classified training mission, and when the truth got out, they set up this 'senior command staff' member to supposedly correct it. Way to celebrate the 40th anniversary of Kent State.

RE: the Update and the military's excuse:

Having worked in large corporations, including a nuclear plant, for many years; allow me to translate the military commander's statement:

"We got caught. A scapegoat has been designated. The person that blew the whistle is in deep doo-doo."

As much as I love and respect our military, I am always brought back to the reality that their top commanders are appointed by Congress. And the liberals have been strategically appointing individuals to positions of power for decades.

(From a retired senior Army officer) I apologize to our “on guard” citizenry, for what was doubtlessly a dumb decision by a probably a captain or perhaps a major.

(1) As menacing an image as the title “16th Cavalry Regiment, 194th Armored Brigade” may paint, I assure you the Brigade, its subordinate battalions and further subordinate units are not deployable (“go to war”) “combat units.” They serve totally in support of “tank training” at Ft. Knox. http://www.knox.army.mil/school/16cav/) and (http://www.knox.army.mil/school/194arbde/)

(2) The branches of the Army, e.g. Armor, Artillery, Aviation, Quartermaster, et al, each have a “home base” at which their Branch-specific training is conducted. Knox is that base for Armor (“tanks” and tank-related maintenance). It conducts the (a) Armor’s Lieutenant and Captains qualification level courses; (b) “one station” basic and advanced individual training for inductees (they take armor recruits at the front and produce E-3 level armor crewmen to be sent to units upon graduation); (3) Junior and senior level NCO ‘s (noncommissioned officers academic courses required for advancement); (4) maintenance training for tanks and heavy tracked vehicles, etc.

(3) Reflect on the enormous numbers of trainers (throughout the fort or from the podium and many classrooms), e.g. There are support soldiers, OPFOR (or “aggressors”), teams to operate and serve as assistant instructors on weapons ranges, bus/truck drivers for transport to/from field sites, preparation/transportation of meals, water and medical support -- the list is endless, and the members required number in the low 4 figures. And they all need “administrative homes.”

(4) Until the mid-to-late 1980’s, these homes were unimaginatively designated “1st Training Battalion, 2nd Training Battalion, 1st Training Brigade,” etc. The Army then wisely decided to designate (“reflag”) these “Training” units with the designations of previously active units with valorous combat history. Hence, what had been the “2nd Training Battalion” may have become the “15th Squadron, 16th Cavalry Regiment,” and . . . you get the story.

(5) These school support units are not organized as typical combat units but in units corresponding with the support missions for which they are responsible. However, every soldier must semi-annually or annually personally qualify with a weapon, pass the Physical Training Test, etc. At all training posts, these units also normally have support roles in emergency disaster relief (a) when requested by the Governor and (b) approved by the President. These roles might be levy building, food/water supply -- but not law enforcement. No doubt, this was an exercise designed to practice assembly and supply centralization. Have no fear, military posts have Military Police units assigned trained and proficient in installation defense. Again, some young officer has received more attention than he ever expected by a simple attempt to instill some stimulation into an exercise in the planning stage.

The Obama admisistration is not worried about the criminals that cross our borders every day but is worried about peaceful deminstrations the disagree with his political views.

November can't come soon enough, so we can vote these idiots out of office.

Hot Dog!!!!

I always have to have to give good reason to the CFO (my wife) on why I need another gun.

I have been authorized to buy four...thanks PP!!!

Garden Plot for the Depository requires no elaboration. Just do it. Leave the polytickle posturing to the Obamanites and support and defend the Constitution. . . .

Piece by piece, little by little our country is being torn apart by this man that sits in the White House.

It's clear to me now that he forgot his constitutional oath of office within minutes after they were spoken if even he believed what he was saying in the first place.

Ask for the officer's name and interview him. I'll bet that you will not get a response. They never expected you to uncover this and you forced them to cover their butt.

I spend six years in the Air Force (66-72) and let me tell you something - the VERY thought that our military would even pretend that peaceful Americas exercising the First Amendment rights would be made the target of ANY MILITARY exercise is unacceptable!! This moron should either be demoted or sent to Venezuela where this occurs on a real time basis....and while you at it take your Commander-In-Chief with you.

Here's an idea - lets PRETEND ITS al-Qaeda or would that be too offense to our Muslims brothers like Major Hasan, who murdered 13 Americas at Ft.Hood. Hood.

Do I understand that this security exercise did in fact occur and as described with the Tea Party group as a target? At what level in the Army was this exercise approved? THis is very serious misuse of the Army.

I would certainly hope that this was not something that the Command Staff had approved.Thanks to the Patriot Post for alerting us common citizens. I am sure it will not appear in the liberal media.God bless America and the members of our armed services who give us protection.

What a load O'Bull from the command staff at Fort Knox!! First off, the Army never admits in public to having to "counsel" anyone if they're telling the truth. They are just posturing for you and blowing smoke. They are covering up for a buddy, a field-grade officer or above. This wonder boy will get a very small slap on the wrist. FYI: If the offender had been an enlisted man of any grade, they would have used the words "will be subject to disciplinary action under Article 15 of the UCMJ and possible court-martial.

It is for this very reason that progressives in all segments of our society have become a clear and present danger and should be dealt with, with the force commensurate to that which they apply to law abiding citizens.

It is their choice if they resort to violent force as witnessed in Phoenix these past few days against American citizens concerned with what is happening to our nation. I would rather see matching rhetoric in lieu of violence, but we will no longer be intimidated by our duly elected representatives agents of violence.

They are effecting the military now, so the sooner this bunch is run out of Washington and their propaganda machine the MSM is shut down the sooner we will resume being the America of our founding fathers. I hope 'We the majority . . .' have learned a far reaching lesson by what happens when progressives are given authority over the peoples government.

The Turban Torpedo

Just the fact that the excercise happened with the scenario re "Tea partiers' is very troubling to this Vietnam vet and my two Vietnam vet brothers. Apparently some of the younger generation service personnel do not know the Constitution and american history like they should. Our WW II B-24 vet father is rolling over in his grave and my brothers and I are determined to not let this great country go down the tubes. We love this country, but we fear the assholes in charge. !!! God bless America !!!

As a former Marine Corporal I find this whole scenario extremely prejudicial to good order and the moral of hte Armed Forces of the United States.

Every officer who either gave the orders or who failed to take action in a timely manner to recind these illegal orders in violation of their Oath of Office is culpable and should be court martialed for the failure to perform said duties in accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm

That means from the lowest rank to the Commanding General who bears RESPONSIBILITY for all that occurs on his Post on his watch.

I'm glad the message finally got through to the

military at Ft. Knox. It's quite likely the command crew would have been in for quite a surprise otherwise!

It is a great service you provide, and I truly appreciate it, sponsor you when I can, and rely on you 100%.

Although this turned out to be the work of one officer directly involved in the design of the exercise and "intel" development, I find the description of the Tea Party participants to be clearly political and left leaning nonsense, insulting to those who have been exercising their first amendment rights in a most honorable fashion. I have been watching the rallies closely with the eye of a life-long cop, experienced in civil disobedience of the worst order. I've participated in our local rallies and have been very proud of the total lack of disorder, which appears to be the norm nationwide. No alcohol, no threats, no insults, just good and reasonable protest. Keep up the good work, America! Do your best with honor! Don't let one or two idiots ruin your efforts.

I agree with GunDog in that it will happen that a pieceful group of patriots will be fired upon by a directed order to suppress an idea. Why would we think it could not happen. When you have heard people say they believe the military should be called in to clean up the streets from law breakers in Chicago then this shows a mindset of where we are heading. We don't need the military to do the job of law enforcement. We don't need the military or the law enforcement to interfere in peaceful protest of lawbiding citizens trying to voice concern about what is a wrongful act against the Constitution of the United States. Let us remember history and not forget it. Remember what a disgrace this country went through in the 60's.

The original essay as written surprises me less than the disclaimer published as an update. Three days transpired from the original notice to the second. For those in charge to assert they were not informed of the details is beyond belief. I've been retired for years and I know things change but not this. The "command staff" may have plausible deniability but no more than that. More likely, this was a trial balloon to see where the objections would originate. God help us if the active duty officers today do not understand their oath is to the Constitution above all else.

Retired Marine and "Oathkeeper".

Don't believe for a second that the way this exercise was altered was done by accident. Yes, much of the military is on the side of the American people but i don't doubt certain individuals and groups of individuals swear complete allegiance to the State, Obama, and not the American people.

I don't doubt for a second that some of these people would have no problem with declaring tea party members enemies. I'm sure many already have.

For they too have their political leanings and we know how bitter leftists, not in the military, are and how far they've gone in trying to demonize tea partiers. Military members or not some of them still are leftists and still have a negative view of tea partiers. Think martial law.

Great scenario !!! It certainly prompted an entertaining collection of commentary. I relished each and every one ! They alone made the entire exercise worthwhile.

A couple things to keep in mind.

Approximately 70 % of the US military voted against the current CiC. And they are not stupid individuals. I know many currently in and they are on the side of the Tea Party folks.

I also know a lot of fairly new, and older vets...and we remember our oaths. And we are watching, participating in some of these protests, contacting our reps at every turn, and preparing for the worst while working towards the best.

SPEARHEAD!

GOD help us all...we are under siege.

This administration is so inept that they will turn on ordinary Americans who exercise their right to free speech rather than on the forces of evil who seek to destroy us.

Obama and his progressive cronies must be sent packing. They're an infection that will dismantle our nation.

It's a disgrace.

Sad, bit I have reached the point where I believe very little of what anyone in authority says anymore.

If it something I would like to hear (such as dear leader saying something positive about America)I assume it isn't true. Never take a shower when someone invites you to do it in an unfamiliar shower stall.

I enjoy daily reading The Patriot Post. To bad that you gave out info without checking deeper into the story. This is how confidentances is erroded.

With so much misinformation floating around the internet it has become more and more difficult to know truth from error.

Glad to see that you have cleared the misinformation. I had not yet forward it to my friends.

Thank you for your rapid publish of a correction.

The blood of American Patriot's will flow.

I work with the military; I completely support them and their mission. I honor their dedication and service; BUT I know one day in the near future, these young men and woman will be called out to face angry crowds of Americans protesting against the policies of their government. At some point the situation will become ugly, a sharp crack will be heard, was it a shot? There will confusion. The order WILL be passed and it WILL BE OBEYED. That's what they are trained for, they will fire into the crowd.

I do not condom the solders, latter they will hate what was done and may cry over the action. It happened at Kent State, it will happen again. Our government will order the military to suppress the coming uprising. I pray that after the first blood is shed, the leaders in our Armed Forces will stop the illegal and un-Constitutional use of force against Americans. I pray for a peaceful restoration of our Constitution and Bill of Rightss, but I believe it will only come at the price of American patriot’s blood.

Pray for Peace, but prepared to defend our Liberty!

I'm amazed at how blind the average American is. During the "W" years, liberals whined and moaned and claimed that they were being patriotic in opposing the President, even as they "outed" top secret programs designed to protect us.

Now that those liberals are in office, they have changed their views. How DARE anyone oppose their views? Those who do are either stupid, small minded, obstructionists, clinging to their religion and their guns, or just plain terrorists. Are the liberal minded in this country that hypocritical? Are they really that blind to the hypocracy of the liberals in Washington? Evidently so. It's pathetic.

Is that what we call politically correct?

How about sending them to our borders to PROTECT the USA! Now that's a idea!

I WOULDN'T PUT ANYTHING PAST THIS REGIME THAT IS IN POWER IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THESE TYRANNICAL INDIVIDUALS WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO STILL THE VOICE OF DISSENT; TO KEEP SILENT THOSE WHO WANT JUSTICE REGARDING OUR PRECIOUS CONSITUTION. PEACEFUL GATHERINGS ARE BEING TOUTED AS 'VIOLENT' AND 'RACIST' AND PARTICIPANTS ARE CALLED DEROGOTORY NAMES; MUCH THE SAME AS PAST DICATORIAL REGIMES HAVE DONE TO THEIR FREEDOM LOVING CITIZENS. WE MUST RETURN DECENCY, SANITY AND ABOVE ALL, TRUE PATRIOTIC AMERICANS WHO LOVE AND CHERISH THIS COUNTRY AND WHAT IT STANDS FOR TO LEADERSHIP IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

Sounds like a coverup to me, which is what happens more and more in Washington and the military. I have no doubt that the military was practicing such a scenario.

For such an exercise to even have begun with the original scenario is telling.

It tells us that somebody in the chain of command actually DOES think that the TEA Party and other legitimate dissenters assembling peacefully to petition redress pose a direct threat.

It's all fine and dandy for it to have been stopped but we NEED to know who instituted it in the first place. there's no question at all about how the Kenyan Usurper feels, his comments have been faithfully reported by the LeftMedia.

I have been in other forums where participating military officers have stated that the military simply would NOT participate in launching rounds at the citizens of this country. I took that on faith.

Now I'm not so sure any more. It only takes one trigger happy or frightened trooper or one misguided officer to spark an explosion. I seem to remember such an event from history where British red Coats opened fire on unarmed colonials. It marked the beginning of a small event known now as the American Revolution.

Whatever the party, once the slippery slope is slid down, it will make no difference who said what, who did what or when it happened or didn't happen. I am against any one who is trying to initiate a campaign based on hate, bigotry and misunderstanding as I see is happening in so may circles these days. Why can't we make an effort to not be so offended and learn to talk to each other again.

Fred Pauer

Martinez GA

This needs to be brought before the President and he should be confronted and someone should be confronted.After all why is it anyone that stands against communism is a terrorist,and all that stand for it are aloud to protest with out being called what the truly are.

Islam is recruiting convicts in American prisons. As these Islamic convert convicts are released from prison they are brought to any of 35 Islamic paramilitary style training camps across the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. They are drilled with Islamic dogma (continuous mandatory jihad against ALL non-islamic cultures--NO HOLDS BARRED), and trained in kidnaping, murder, enslavement, mutilation, etc.

I can only imagine why they are allowed to exist in AMERICA!

"We are all outlaws in the eyes of Amerika!"

Jefferson Airplane.

(You can post my name) Lame excuse from the Fort Knox "leadership." I guess they may have figured out that when men like me say "Article 32 to Article 37 to public execution" that such men are not joking.

This reminds of "4 dead in Ohio" @ Kent State in this Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young song of that era. I recall being alarmed by those Kent State attacks by our military, our military that is sworn to follow the Constitution, protecting us citizens. this is also alarming. remember the (Japanese-American) citizens interred during WW2. Are we safe from our own citizen soldiers? Trusting Father to protect His own!

The conservatives need to keep their cool. I believe that the left is trying to intimidate the conservatives into doing something stupid so that those in power today can declare a state of emergency and postpone/cancel further elections thus keeping their grip on power. In November we need to clean house and elect those who understand and UPHOLD the constitution and bill of rights.

I am appalled by the inability, or unwillingness, of the Republican Party to implement proceedings against the Obama regime. What are the party leaders afraid of? When will action be taken to expose Obama for what he is? All things point toward treasonous activity within the White House and by the actions taken against civilians that choose to protest the destruction of our Republic and Constitution. The man is bent on creating internal strife for one purpose, to implement martial law and make it a dictatorship.

I would hope that the officer who did this act would get the boot. It is blatently clear they are; 1.)too stupid, to in anyway lead or be responsible for troop safetyor training in any fashion.,or 2)they are so politically left orientated that they cannot be trusted to defend liberty, our Constitution or our great country!

Additionally I would venture they have lost ALL respect of their fellow soldiers at Ft Knox who know their name. As long as a few soldiers know their name it WILL BE passed along so therefore it matters not where they are transfered/hidden this will follow them.

The only way for them to save face is to publicly apoligize and resign.

I would like to salute the soldiers who came forward with this issue and thank my brother veterns for their service and writting on this issue.

Ron Johnson

Master Sergeant (Retired)

U.S. Army

Amen! I'm worried and scared for our country. Thanks for the courageous report - this helps lesson the anxiety. Although the Pres is inciting us to be an even more divided nation..What's happening in Arizona does not bode well for us. Many men would gladly go to defend our citizens in Arizona - our army is also made up of such men who would not be lead by a tyrant.

In English criminal law, incitement was .. the act of persuading, encouraging, instigating, pressuring, or threatening so as to cause another to commit a crime. (or WAR) PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY.

Dan Wilcox, Major (RET) USAR- What better PEOPLE-Unit to USE against it's OWN people then those NOW being BRAINWASHED and I make that statement as a Retired US Army E-7. Of course they are NOT going to try to convince more then likely hardened Combat Troops that DO have info concerning the possibilty of this happening- Tea Party March. This could ONLY be possible USING NEW TROOP'S that are in their infancy of Brainwashing!!!!! And, ANYONE that dispute's that Brainwashing happen's/goes on w/o us knowing it (The TROOP) has not looked back on their career and everything that happened in their MIND change. It took me a couple of year's after retirement to realize how MUCH I had been indoctinated w/o knowing it.

Anyone and EVERYONE that has a son/daughter in the Military right now, need's to educate them as to what may/WILL happen and that the Gov't is wrong and their son's/daughter's should know it. I WOULD BET that the Military STOP's all family contact within a week or 2 of this happening, IF not loger. That's WHY you need to educate ANY troop or Future Soldier about the possibility.

IF, the Gov't is capable of accomplishing this, what a SAD DAY in American history it will BE. The President of the US is capable of containing Peacable People USING US Basic Training Troops.

Sounds like the Fort Knox Command Staff has egg on their faces. They really didn't know that the scenario has been altered? Nobody at Command and Staff level was monitoring and important Command and Staff Security Exercise until they read "The Patriot Post"? On one hand I could wish that they didn't know or approve the "Tea Party" inclusion as a potential threat because they surely must know better, but on the other hand I must ask, "Did this scenario come down from the SecDef"? Gustin

Snake Hunters - 10thMtnDiv, WWII, Sez:

Sirs: There's a real shooting war escalating on our southern border this year, and the Pima County Arizona Sheriff, Clarence Dupnik has coined a word - "Fornikaboobery" - to describe it. In reading about your exercise at Fort Knox, I submit the good sheriff's new word to describe the absurd actions taken by the current administration in response to the mature Tea Party Movement. Sempre Fi! - reb

www.lazyonebenn.blogspot.com

My fellow Americans, Is it not time to finally consider the reality of a One World Government. and the desire of this seemingly man without charictor, respect, integrety and belief in anything other than his own selfserving arrogant view of the constitution has but one mission and that is to Change (OUR) country into a mish mash of Islamic simpathetic non-patriotic socialistic self serving gready butt kissing resigme.

I live in Illinois and just because Obama is able to read a teleprompter and take your money and rights at the same time proves nothing, larceny by trickery is still a crime, regaurless how good you are at it.

People, the UN will have forien troops stationed in this country just like there are blue helmets from everywhere else in countrys now. You really dont think us troops are actually going to be expected to enforce gun laws that a presently being made through the un do you??????????? there will likley be someone who you barely can understand at your door with plenty of help demanding your firearms under the UN law.................

Is this sinister thinking ? You bet ! the dangerous part is that it is taking place where respectable public servants once protedted America. The White House. Presently a flop house to a gang of thugs from the city who are attempting to expand there turff war to include all 50 states.

Its time to jail, impeach, fire, vote out these bumms and save this Country and Constitution As formed by our forefathers, pass it on to future generations before there arent either !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO I DO NOT APPOLOGIZE IF I HAVE OFFENDED THOSE WHO I REFERENCE IN MY EXPRESSION OF UTTER DISTAINE AND DISCUSS FOR WHAT IS BEING DONE TO THE FINEST COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET. OF COARSE ONE NEEDS TO BELEAVE IN A SCOREING SYSTEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT A CONCEPT............. A B C D F

I would give my spelling about a C- .

I doubt that any junior officer is going to change the plans and scenarios of an exercise formulated and approved by Command

I seem to recall the original Tea Party (a.k.a. the Sons of Liberty) was seen by the regime as a terrorist group as well...

As a retired Army Master Sergeant, I find it very disturbing that there is even the potential for our military to be used against American citizens who are exercising their constitutional rights of free speech and assembly. Nothing like this was even considered during the tenure of our previous (Republican) commander-in-chief, and he was the recipient of much criticism by both citizens and the press. He obviously had much thicker skin.

Thank God for the conservative media who keep up with and report the goings on in Washington, because the American people are not being fully informed of both sides of issues by the mainstream news outlets, TV, and the press. One sided reporting is not journalism, it is bias.

I salute the Tea Party folks. It is about time the voices of the people were heard. And November is not far away.

Boy. did this ever stir up a hornets nest!

Regardless of the weak denial, I believe it shows the length the present political establishment plans to go to and that it was done as part of psy op conditioning of the troops.

This smells like a practice for Krystallnacht. Only the jews are now the tea party advocates. Meanwhile the rest of the country sits idle while the power and rights of the people are usurped. By the way did Barack ever find that birth certificate of his? I didn't think so. I am not allied with the tea party, nor democrats or republicans. I do think it is time for armed intervention against our government. Not to overthrow the constitution, but to oust those who plot against the american citizens.

I seem to recall MacArthur forcibly removing WW1 vets from the Mall. And his aide de camp future President Dwight D Eisenhower by his side. If they had no problem turning on "their own" it is not a stretch that the current crop of Cortney Massengales would do the same to the tea partiy folks.

Jim H. Captain, are You that out of touch with what is going on in our country????

I hate to state it, but, our Fore Father's wrote the Second Amendment into our Constitution B/c of this (Obama) type of Tyrant. As far as your statement concerning the talk of Arm's, the talk of arming American's mainly come's from Democrat's, NOT republican's and do you wonder WHY??????

This man is calling out US Army Troops for the 2010 Election's and has planned it WAY before there was a Tea Party OR any other group had been planned or even BORN. Therefore, He knew that his action;s were so out of the NORM that it would excite and FINAALY UNITE people.

I cannot believe that as, a Captain Of the USMC, that YOU, do not haave the smart's to see what this man is doing to this country. Did you run your Plt's.Companies in this same ignorant way? IF you did, I am so glad that you have retired.

If, you are Democrat, don;t go to Republican website's, go to Indepeandent wedsite's and read how crazy this man is. She what he has in store for US, the US. IF, you really want to be informed, go to Fox new's, Gleen Beck or o'reilly or any other. Believe it or NOT, theey DO produce the FACT'S, NOT the Crap that Demo's want you to believe.

God Bkess America in these difficult time's, God Bless our Troop's and God Bless them in the time's that they are about to see. I Love Our Troops, I do not want to have to confront them for Obama's IGNORANCE..

When has Barack Obama or any of his principal henchmen been deterred in the least by law? They've broken every one they've been confronted with.

Posse Comitatus will NOT stop them from using force against the American People.

Perhaps you have forgotten the 6,000 man Security Force authorized and funded by the health care "reform" boondoggle. This force, when trained and equipped, will be under the direct command of the Director of HEW as bidden by the POTUS to be used in any "emergency" that results from a health related issue. That means ANYTHING the POTUS wants it to mean.

Posse Comitatus does not apply to them.

Sorry for ALL of the Typo's in the emaail to Jim H. The (Ret) Marine Captain.

RE: Donnie Smith

Don't forget that the Posse Comitatus apparently didn't restrict President Clinton and AG Reno from assaulting the civilian Branch Davidian compound near Waco with tanks from nearby Ft. Hood. The justification at the time was the prevention of "child abuse" within the compound. However, the Federales committed the ultimate act of child abuse by incinerating them in the resultant congflagration. Clinton was impeached for the wrong reasons.

When I hear the vilification coming from the mouths of those opposing the Arizona ID law, I hear silence from former president Clinton who admonished the TEA partiers for "immoderate language". I see video and hear terms like Nazi, racist, fascist, racist, apartheid, racist, hate-monger, racist, but not a peep of comment from the Left, while the media attempt to perpetuate their mythical construct about the racist bigot militia seditionist TEA partiers. Leave it to the liberals to never let the facts get in the way of a juicy story line. The Democrats are reminding me of the boy who cried, "racist" too many times.

I was stationed at Fort Knox for a number of years.

There was NO THREAT to the gold depository; trust me.

This was just an example of OVERKILL by a bully of a president.

The lack of judgement and common sense is evident.

Ill equipped for the office and stupidity is dangerous to all.

I am a retired 74 year old veteran U.S.Navy Aircrewman and marketin executive with a wife, 3 indendent children & 7 grandchildren, and have attended Tea Parties with other patriotic Americans of several races, genders, ethnic backgrounds, religions and ages. I cannot even imagine one of our fine young military men and women having to direct violence towards me and other Tea Party attendees and organizers who are there only to protest our present governments violations to our U.S. Constitution, wasteful spending and robbing our descendents of our Creators gift of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Shame on President Obama, House Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Reid for even suggesting that Tea Party people are other than non-violent and God fearing protestors of their Marxist policies!

First, Obama has to soften the troops to the idea of Tea Party patriots being home grown terrorists and uses training scenarios such as this....then its not such a great leap for troops to actually use military force to jail and if needed shoot dissenting Tea Party protesters.

Obama's just planning for the future when the dung hits the fan and he goes for broke implementing his socialist utopia.

Patriots....keep your powder dry.

You don't suppose "the officer in the security loop" that altered the scenario was related to the officer that prepped the troops for Kent State, let's see, 40 years ago, almost to the day!

More seriously "anti-government" and "health protestors" were identified too - a wider ranging characterisation. Did the Ft Knox honcho back on those being mentioned?

I would be curious as to the original scenario for the exercise. As my military time was a spent as a sea-going Naval officer I'm not familiar with the designing of an exercise scenario, but it would seem that a single officer would be able to make no substantive changes in the format - merely some editing of the text.

I'll give the command the benefit of the doubt, there some far-out "militia" groups in the country and if the command felt they needed to set up an exercise for the defense of Ft. Knox from armed invasion there aren't many scenarios that don't involve domestic terrorists (they could have used the James Bond flick Goldfinger, but who would play Odd Job).

The offensive thing is the naming of Tea Parties and the association of the causation with objections to ObamaCare and a tax revolt. The militias (and let me include Bill Ayres' Weather Underground in that group) are a bit more general in their condemnation of our system. Far left or far right, they are "armed and dangerous" - although the far right perhaps less so as they tend to congregate in enclaves and be more visible, whereas the far left tends to be underground.

My shock at this is mainly that we have officers who would insert such a political portrayal when an unnamed and amorphous militia would have been adequate for the scenario. Not completely surprised, we did let the Ft. Hood shooter stay in for PC reasons (apparently), but I didn't think the career military had been infiltrated from the left (I doubt that this was a one tour Louie who could edit the scenario).

In summary, the basic scenario would have been ok with me had they not defined the supposed grievances and parties involved. The exercise had to involve domestic terrorists (or infiltrators) for any realism, but a generic revolt against the US would have been quite adequate for that.

The officer in question should be made to apologise to the TEA parties and should be severely reprimanded. He sounds like some political officer in the USSR and is definitely NOT command materiel.

In the 1930's and 40's thousands of proud patriotic young men, lured by the glamour of state propaganda and the delusion of grandeur, hoped more than anything to wear the exclusive and intimidating uniform of the much vaunted SS.

They raced to stake a claim in their country's glorious military tradition, accepting the state's propaganda at face value without deeply searching their hearts for the truth of the matter.

Later, when acting on the State's orders to knock down doors and search the homes of their fellow citizens who resisted their governments drift away from traditional german values, these erstwhile heros came to be feared, then despised and finally resented even more than the allied invaders who were eventually welcomed by many as liberators. A word to the wise....

Before putting the modern equivalent of the SS bars on your collar you had better ask yourselves... Whose side are you on? Duty, Honor, and Country is more than a cheap slogan. Your people and families are your real responsibility, not a bunch of psychopaths in government.

You fellers have said it all. Which is the greater danger; Obama or the electorate that elected him?

I can only pray that more of those that did, won't ever again.. 2010 for Congress 2012 for the Presidency.. please, if you aren't involved with a "Party", choose one and go into it meaning to reform.. There is a Tea Pary or 912 near you... go for it!

God Bless,

www.fatheromalley.com

I am a retired Army Major (Armor) and have been assigned to Ft Knox a number of times both as an elisted Sgt and as a LT & Cpt. I was waiting to see this reply. Command & Staff did not know. How could they have not known?? Another example of "Political Corectness". FT Know has always had a Reaction Plan/Team for the vault. I was on a reaction team in exercise in 1963 as a E4 & Sgt.

My advise to the TEA PARTY Planners ( I am a Tea bager) A protst at the Vault should be forgotten. The valt is located well inside the installation, even the main highway 31W is on the instlallation. A dependent housing area is located close to the Vault A protest would bring hardship on the soldiers and families stationed at ft Knox. beside to get close to the vault to protest Would make every protest in violation of the Ft Knox Tresspass LAW and automatic arrest, fingerprinting , documention and detention. Such action would also result in FBI action. Folks this would really play into Obama"s agenda and reflect bad on the Tea Party. You could bet the press would be all over it and nothen good for the Tea party Those who remember another protest "Kent State" Fear is a strange thing.

In my 23 plus years in the US Army (much of which was associated with real time intell.) I NEVER saw such outlandish propagandizing in a training scenario. We trained against "real threats" as documented in intell briefs, etc. Characterizing "TEA party" as a segitamate threat is nothing less than indoctrination. Whoever put that in the training scenario should be reassigned--perhaps to the information desk at the US Embassy on Mars!

I am relieved to read your update, Mark, clarifying the Ft Knox Command's position on this matter. Though unthinkable, it is not entirely surprising that something like this could develop. Somebody or some group of staff involved in this needs to be counseled alright ...... all the way to the psycho ward for a nice, long talk. Better get to the bottom of this now. It is just too convenient that a scenario like this would emerge. When the play book starts to line up with hard left talking points promoted by both government "leadership" and a fawning, Fascistic media complex re enforcing its remarks ..... I would say it all bears watching.

How about an exercise centered on confronting the 35 known terrorist training camps across the United States and run by Sheikh Gilani from Pakistan? I could be all wet ..... but the "Soldiers of Allah" or "Jamaat ul-Fuqra" may be slightly more threatening than Tea Party members.

The likely hood of a disruption from them would seem to be eminent at some point ..... YA THINK??? Again ..... maybe it's just me ..... but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once.

As a senior enlisted member of the Armed Forces, it saddens me to see that a military exercise like this could even be considered as valid training. On a daily basis we in the military are recieving some form of sensitivity training or another and it has made us soft and weak. Especially if we consider or fellow Americans exercising their first ammendment rights as the greatest threat to the american way of life. We in the military do not have free reign to voice or displeasure with the way things are going in this country. But I can tell you that activities on the part of our senior leadership, just like Fort Knox's misguided drill, have members of the armed forces questioning what we are serving for to begin with.

Is it just me, or has everyone missed the fact that a extremely large portion of the Tea Party ARE military families?? Whether they are retired military or the mothers and grandmothers of current servicemen, any "scenerio" used for training would be training our military to fire upon not just their own countrymen but their own families?? We're the ones that stop military personnel on the street to say "thank You" and routinely pick up the tab when we see someone in uniform eating at a restaurant and organize welcome parties at airports for Honor Flights. Maybe I'm just an idealist, but I have a REALLY hard time believing ANYONE in the military that wasn't some kind of infiltrator themselves would consider the TEA Partiers as a threat...its their mom for goodness sake!

I can not believe in this great nation we can not disagree with our government. I am 56 years old and a 9th generation American. My ancestors fought to help make this country great and defended it in all wars.

I am not racist, I am not A traitor. I love my country and grew up with freedom of expression. I don't agree with gay rights activists but they have a right too. The same goes for anyone who in a LEGAL CITIZEN. This president can't get past his ego to run this country as it was founded. Him and his czars are the problem!!!!!

Wow! I agree with most everything that has been said, except for a solution. We the people have more love in us than we seem to think we have. There is only one way to defeat a mentality ( or lack of I should say) such as our current regimes. HAVE NO RESISTANCE!!. Simply refuse to play the game. Stop paying taxes and refuse to play the game. Love one another enough to help each other and if necessary starve them out of the Government.

This smells like a coverup to me. Either way, it should never have happened, and if the senior command staff at Ft. Knox was not aware of it, that makes matters even worse in terms of their lack of control of the base.

Am merely waiting for like units to be chopped over to North Com for the duration. Wonder what the ROE would have been?

Would love to know who wrote this political piece of garbage.

as a reired US Army Officer I would strongly recommend every Officer that their first and formost duty is to " PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES BOTH FOREIGN and DOMESTIC ". Illegal orders by the President or anyone down the chain of command ought not be obeyed .

This explanation sounds really "FISHY". In fact it sounds like bullshit. An officer in the security loop had the authority to drastically unilaterally modify the scenario to what was reported?? Don't believe it. I think it's safe to assume that this drill was ordered by the Whitehouse as follow-up to the "demonization" of the "tea party" movement and the earlier DHS "DEMONIZATION" document:

(U//FOUO) Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment

To Jon Murphy after reading your post Odd Job could be played by either VP Joe B. or VP Al Gore! lol

Also to Daniel Bolster

I attended my first Tea Party here in St. Louis the day after Thanksgiving last year and there was absloutly no sign of violence. The crowds were very respective of the speakers; now if you went to a STL rams or cards game, you may have a bit more of a problem there.

However it would not surprise me to find that the Army or FBI is training for such a threat secretly.

one only has to read some of the comments here and in other "patriot" sites to know that there is a very real element within a mostly peaceful group for whom violence is a preferred method of demonstrating their temper tantrum. Instead of whining about what seems to be a BS scenario why don't you address the scumbags in your midst who are given good reason for the "bad" reputation. Grow up kids, the reaction of this administration towards demonstrators is NOTHING compared to that we have seen under Republican rule. Remember - in this country we VOTE, not fight. If you can't abide by that there are many other places where you can exercise your barbarism.

For those that keep citing Posse Commitatus(sic), please understand that it was effectively repealed by Bush through the passage of the Military Commissions Act of 2007, along with the Federalization of the National Guard to be under the direct pervue of the President of the United States.

Why else do you think Texas and Arizona has been begging help from Washington to deploy National Guard to secure the border? The Govs of those States do not have the authority to do so anymore. You can google up what I said if you want proof.

Which leads to this point in time. I'm not surprised to see such a thing come into the light of day. I've been hollering about the corruption in Washington to all who would hear me since 2002. At first, I was a nutjob. Then a Conspiracy Theorist. Today, people are actually at the point I was in 2002. If We the People keep dilly dallying and slowly moving to restore our country and Constitutional Rights, by the time we get to the point of being effective, then yes, those who would obey illegal orders will have starting to open fire.

I hate the idea of violence, it sickens me. But understand, those that make peaceful revolution impossible make a violent revolution inevitible.

I joined the local Tea Party last year. I am 54. Except for probably 5 others I am the youngest member. O-dumbo keeps characterizing us as dangerous. Go and see what I see. For cripes sake, these are retired people, grandmothers, people in wheel chairs!

I urge everyone reading this to help us by joining.

This entire issue is federalism versus stateism, just like the Civil War.

I just thought you should know that the Administration may be supporting this viewpoint among some military Officers. When Obama was here at Bagram Air Field last month, every soldier/sailor/airman admitted to one of the "Staged" events at which he appeared, was required to leave their arms, ammunition, and even their water bottles outside. This is a COMBAT ZONE where everyone authorized carries their weapon with them at all times, even to the shower and to bed. But they were stripped of their arms just to be in the same building or tent as the Cheat in Chief. he doesn't just believe the "Tea Partiers" are his enemies, he really does think the US Military consists of enemies too.

Mark, for the first time in my memory, and this is reading the Patriot Post 3 times weekly for several years, this is the first time I ever saw you mistakenly and quite embarrassingly miss the point about the military exercise that you (in one day) investigated and wrote your "mea culpa" today. We all make mistakes, but I have to think reactions and second thoughts to your original column yesterday caused you to look more into this mess and come up with the truth today. That second look and investigation should have been conducted BEFORE you wrote your original piece. Thanks.

Charlie Seng

FOLLOW ME boys, I'm armed with 100 Red Rose Teabags!

That's racist! They can't counsel that officer!

Remember May 4th 1970 Kent State!

I also participated in "Riot Control Training" in the late '60s and '70s while on active duty with the US Army. Remember there were some differences in the protests of the '60s and the Tea Parties of today. Cities were burned in the '60s, i.e. Detroit, Chicago and Washington DC. Also, a National Guard Unit in Ohio fired on student protesters. The difference is, the active duty military units were assigned to local police departments and usually were not allowed to have live ammo. The local police did have live ammo and did fire on civilians, looting and burning local businesses. The Ohio National Guard unit was issued live ammo and very little riot control training.

Active Duty Units should not be utilized in local protests. National Guard Units may be utilized at the request of local civilian leaders but should not be deployed unless imminent threat to life and property exists.

Just saying....

Perhaps there is a ray of hope. I am especially encouraged that folks in the military are obviously aware of the "Patriot Post".

Thank you for what you do.

After reading this total article,It makes me wonder just where wqe are getting our Military Officers today to protect our country.

These clowns in Washington starting with Bama have made up all the problems to try and take all blame off themselves when something happens at our borders,

We need more protection at all of our borders so more people are not killed by the ilegals and start looking better at Bamas country men (THE MUSLIMS) and send them back to their countries.

Maybe I have gotten off track a little bit ,but when I was in the NHavy I was instructed to follow all the commands of my seniors but if I knew that the order was against all regulations as put out by the constitution of ths country I did not have to obey these orders,and The democrats are not in mine or any Military Chain of command and if they get involved them they should be arrested and placed in confinement untill they are taken before a Military COURT.

MAY GOD BLESS AND BACK ANY AND ALL OF THESE TEA PARTIES AS LONG AS THEY ABIDE BY THE WRITTEN LAW OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY!!!

Adm Mullens has no backbone. This happened on HIS watch. We need a petition for his resignation. Followed by an investigation that will lead us much higher.

PS

The troops will never fire on free Americam.

Mark, the Army's lame excuse or explanation is not sufficient. The perpetrator of that "exercise" needs more than counseling. He or she needs the severest punishment as a lesson to any other Nazis in our Army that the honest citizens are not their enemy and that any Army officer who would do this kind of thing is not a good American and is the enemy of the people. This needs not to die out quietly like the atrocities perpetrated by the jack-booted thugs in New Orleans after Katrina. Tom Cook

The day the government starts hunting us for being political desenters, I start hunting Them and I know of 300 "equipted" fellas with extensive honorable military training who feel the same way.

It's great to see this viewpoint is both known to and respected among the commanders. Let's just hope the military adheres to its "don't ask, don't tell" guidelines. This way, Obama won't ask hypothetically if forces would attack Tea Party attendees, and the forces won't be forced to "just say no" either.

I am not shocked by these events. These army generals are only following the lead of their CIC. As an old white guy, Bible carrying, anti-abortion, ex-military, anti-big government,I have already been labeled a national security threat by 000's Napolitano. Every free thinker is a threat to 000.

This pre-planned event was a test to see the public's reaction, designed to give the generals' plausible deniability. Facts are stubborn things.

We are disenfranchised. We are bankrupt. 000's intent is to crash the economy and assume total control of the country. America is on the road to perdition.

Nature lacks sympathy for the unprepared.

Perhaps the exercise scenario was approved at the highest levels to test the reactions of the individual soldiers involved in facing down innocent U.S. citizens.

Several hundred military have in the recent past refused orders questioning their issuance and legality of the Commander-in-Chief.

Why would large numbers of Tea Party participants converge on Fort Know any way? What tactic would be used by 80 year old great-grandmothers and fathers? Throwing Tea Bags? Holding signs? Making speeches?

The Tea Party has been proven by many reports of various countries media to be a peaceful, non-violent protest against an out of control, spend irresponsible government.

The White House tries to paint the Tea Party participants as anti-government, radical, terrorists. No matter how many times obama tries to tell that lie, it will not stick. The free press is still free in various countries, unfortunately, least of all our own.

GOOD

typical CYA comment from higher command.

And what about the 50,000 troops at Ft Stewart, Ga who are ready for CONUS Deployment? Is this just one of the "exercises" the current administration is practicing? Seems to the TEA PARTY folks that he is just trying to instigate civil unrest by his name calling when he should be listening to what we are saying. He is looking for any excuse to discredit his opponents to justify his own radical agenda. An "imperialist president" ??? He has no clue what our Constitution says and proudly our military defends it and our country both domestically and abroad. We right-wing radical extremists are from every walk of life and peacefully support our freedoms but want OUR government back not to continue BIG government as "THEY" see fit but what is of, for and by the people.

The Obama administration will do anything to demonize a legitimate exercise of free speech. They even brought out the riot police like storm troopers in Quincy, Illinois for 200 peaceful demonstrators during Obama's visit...looking for another Waco?

After I read the first story, I looked for any reference to it on other news sites. There were none. And that, lol, is how I knew it was true.

I'm inclined to wait and see. Keep up the good work. The hypocrisy of the Goldman-Sachs investigation is catching on. Let's see how many illegal immigration supporters show up at the rallies tomorrow.

Almost every day this president adds another brick to his wall of irrelevancy.

This is an absurd action by an officer who needs an official reprimand as well as making a public apology to the American Tea Parties! The entire Tea Party Movement has been peacefull and geared to returning our "Left Leaning and Progressive Politicians" to civilian status, as well as returning the Country to Constitutional Rule" As a former Soldier and Military Police member, I am proud to be a Tea Party Member from the start! Through ANY escalation, I will stand firmly with the Tea Party, we must return to the Constitution!

>One officer insisted, "The American people should require greater accountability of their commissioned officers, that they abide by their oath and never allow politically motivated propaganda like this exercise on any post or base again."

You don't get it. Americans who ARE greatly concerned about the military and its expanding role in deviant enterprise (strategic force and control used against citizens) are despised by their 'patriotic' peers for critiquing military motives and objectives.

Fact is, 'patriots', you all need to get your heads OUT of the blinding sand and realize that the U.S. military IS something far different than your white-picket-fence and apple-pie emotions have lead you to believe.

It ain't about protecting the homeland from exterior threats anymore. ANYONE outspoken or critical of Federal/State intentions under either Republican or Democratic 'rule' now borders on Enemy of the State.

If you think this all about bad dems you seriously need to look at the rotting canker you call the Republican party. BOTH parties have built a wall and BOTH parties hate citizen protest. Period.

So top command admits the Army is out of control and they are under the control of the Commander and Chief. Makes sense to me.

Sounds like CYA to me!

Political Correctness will get us all killed!

The compound ignorance on display by our leaders in Washington, DeCeit is absolutely amazing.

Our borders still open after 30+ years of broken promises with terrorists ingress guaranteed. This government has spent us to bankruptcy while ignoring job creation and punishing those who create wealth - - how wrong can it get?

And, to add insult to injury, loyal Americans are targeted as "Local Militia Groups / Anti-Government Protesters / TEA Party".

How ignorant and wrong can Washington, DeCeit be?

The November election absolutely has to clear out the demented leaders in Washington. We must clear more of them out in 2012 or we will lose this nation to Socialism and other forms of demented and immoral wackos.

America, Wake Up - - vote for honest and moral folks who understand our Constitution and will represent our interests in Washington.

When I queried several of my sons friends the question, "Could American service men shoot Americans?" they answered, "About half could."

So how could an apathetic populace stand up against a military that could shoot them? Not very well I suggest. It will take a generation of fighting against a tyrannical regime to move this country back to a centrist position. Good luck children and grandchildren! The November election will be cancelled due to Marshall law.

Sounds like the boys are backing up.....either it is true or it isn't. Shocking to me since I live 45 miles from Ft. Knox.

IF this is true, we are in trouble. On their way to power, dictators have used the military to stifle dissent.

I have attended Tea Parties and find nothing that even hints of sedition or violence. What I see are average people who are disturbed about what is happening to our Constitution and Nation and want it to stop.

Remember. "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing".

Lest I remind everyone of the following events in the US Military history of complacent obedience to unconstitutional actions against American Citizens that were deemed a potential threat......Japanese American Citizen internment, confiscation of property, division of family units. American Indian relocation to "reservations" at the point of a bayonette and subsequent genecide of whole Indian nations because they were deemed a threat to National Expansion.

Where I admire our military men and women for their service, and give them due thanks for their sacrifices, I also don't fully trust that less than 50% would fire upon, obey internment orders, etc against law abiding US Citizens. It happened before and the US Soldier is trained to follow orders. The compartmentalization of those orders only provide enough information for the unit to perform its mission, they don't see the whole tapestry of the goal, if so they would question the order.

Is that like, "Hey...I was only kidding !"

Caught again and desperately trying to "pull their pants up".

...and for those who believe this, dream on...!

The name of the officer responsible needs to be made public, and his background and associations investigated. This smells like an attempt at political indoctrination of troops, which is forbidden by US law.

"... the individual who circulated the scenario through official channels will 'receive appropriate counsel'."

Unless that "appropriate counsel" involves something that forever reminds him to NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER take liberties with other peoples' liberties - something that looms so powerfully over his decision-making processes that it cannot be forgotten or excluded from them - then whatever counsel he receives shall be little more than a finger shaken in his face and, "naughty, naughty!"

This "misinformation" campaign won't work. I've been to all but one Tea Party rally in my area, and they are not only peaceful, but a family event with seniors in wheelchairs to babies in strollers.

"They" are trying to discredit us, intimidate us, and provoke us. This grandmother of three will always be there anyway. It is my duty as an American citizen to protest the intentional destruction of our Constitution and our great Republic.

Regarding illegal and/or unconstitutional orders to police or military...check out the following website. There is a list of the "10 Orders We Will Not Obey". Civilians may join as well.

www.OathKeepers.org

In 1986 I was stationed at Ft. Sill, OK. with the 200th Aviation Group. The great Ronald Reagan was our Commander in Chief. In 1987, our SGT.MAJ. called a special formation and passed out questionnaires from the HQ of none other than Bill Clinton, who was seeking to take the Presidency. SGT. MAJ. said to fill out the questionnaires and that he could not instruct us how to fill them out ,but, he did tell us to pay very close attention to three questions. The first asked "Would you swear allegiance to the UN?" The second asked "Would you take orders from the Secretary General of the UN ?" These two questions were unanimously answered NO. The third question asked "Would you fire on UNARMED American civilians if ordered to do so?" Every soldier in that unit answered HELL NO! Now it seems I am seeing a repeat of this.

Im releived to hear that the Command staff would not have authorized such a scenario. I've spent most of my entire adult life in the Armed Forces and I can not imangine a drill that would preped me for a situation that involved wrongfully causeing harm to the citizens and families I have sworn to protect and defend. Just to make a statement I would not pratake in this exercise. Im KNOW alot of others feel the same way.

Thanks for your hope.

I strongly object to being called a "Terrorist" just because I disagree with the agenda of the President, the left, and the left media. I served my country honorably and took an oath to uphold the principles of the Constitution of the United States of America. The idea of labelling everyone a terrorist because they dare to disagree with the party line is, to me, reprehensible. The terrorists among us are not me or other Tea Partiers, the terrorists are the accusers themselves.

As a TEA PARTY member, I am still wondering what the Obama-a-a-a-a Administration is so worried about. I doubt we are going to raid their arsenals. I doubt we are going to burn their cities down. I doubt we are going to infiltrate their radical, left-wing Socialist/Fascist Democratic Party and I doubt that we're going to violate OUR U.S. Constitution. However, I suspect us TEA PARTY members are DEFINATELY going to use the Ballot Box this November. [Look, Ma... No curse words, either.]

This is amazing, truly it is! I am a veteran. When I entered military service we were ALL told about 'posse comitatus' and the criminal actions for violating our duty to protect American rights. We have a 'new breed' of soldier today. A recent poll exposed that large percentages of American soldiers would fire on American citizens if ordered to do so. These men were totally unaware that the order which deployed them would be an illegal order; and, that by firing on American citizens they and their officers would be legally and morally subject to immediate capital punishment! Immediate punishment would be authorized because a state of war would now exist between the citizens and the Army which had attacked them! We need to return to the well understood principles embodied in our Constitution -- NO STANDING ARMIES for the Federal Government. Only a navy was authorized to the federal government. The Constitution required that each State create its own standing Army. Period. Our founders understood that dividing the armies amongst the States would protect us from military control. Denying the federal government a permanent standing army is the only way that we can be safe from a tyrannical federal government that is willing to wage war against anyone -- even its own citizens. The framers of the Constitution understood power and its abuse very well. We have forgotten what they knew. It is time to remember.

@ Steven G. Poyzer re: Apr 29, 2010 @ 12:18 --

"Have they not heard of the Oath Keepers? The Constitution forbids our military from being used against our nations own citizens. Not that it hasn't been done in the past, but it is unconstitutional."

Transgressions of this sort go way back. Remember the Whiskey Rebellion? Treasury Secretary Hamilton convinced President Washington to conscript an army to march on a small body of angry dissidents who did not like the new tax. It turned out to be some 12,000-15,000 armed troops - from several states - marching into the sovereign territory of a brother state to deal with no more than 250 angry private citizens. All to collect an unpopular tax.

No, folks; this is nothing new.

The individual who altered this scenario, if he actually exists, needs to have his career ended immediately. But I don't think he even exists, I think its the brass protecting their own rear end. Our army can't even win a war or defend themselves at home because these politicians in uniform tie our boys' hands behind their backs. If the individual who did this will not be court martialed then I DEMAND that that the senior command staff are court martialed.

To be honest I was rather disturbed by the original article. Not because of the need of such exercises but the premise that Tea Party Folks were labeled as and percieved as a threat.

I do think that the officer who made the decision to have the the Tea Party movement added as a possible threat, should recieve more than simple counselling.

As to the theory that Command knew all about the use of terminology, that they were "floating a test" for the purpose of determining reactions both from the soldiers and the civilian population I cannot accept. Though our freedoms at this time are under assult on many different fronts, from many different factions, our Armed services have been and continue to be, the most visible and succinct examples of loyalty to our Nation.

Presidents will come and go, but the Troopers, sailors, and Airmen will remain.

What is more scary to me, a retired military member is that there are individuals and groups that would attempt to blend in like hunters wearing hides and stage something. Wolves among the sheep so to speak, all it would take is one person. And the more I read, the more I am certain that this is “someone’s plan” to set the stage for martial law.

Of course this is why I was usually assigned the additional duty on being on the base Exercise Evaluation Team, I have a devious mind.

Eternal Vigilance, especially by those planning or attending these rallies and gatherings. We must be watchful ourselves and isolate and then turn over to law enforcement those that might or are attempting any action but peaceful ones.

It's good to know they are listening and responding, we pray, with truth at the forefront. Thank you for all that you continue to do for the good of our nation and for liberty loving citizens everywhere!

It is reassuring to find that the officer in question who editorialized the standing order has been disciplined but it is unnerving as well, that such an event could happen. Let us hope that more

responsible Command Staff make SURE that this never happens again. The officer trying to make the exercise more realistic should probaqbly be court-matialed and cahiered but, the Army may be playing games to cover it's own ineptitude. In that case, I agree with previous poster Josh.

@ Kyle re: Apr 29, 2010 @ 20:32 --

The idea is not to take any opportunity to start shooting at fellow Americans WHO HAVE SWORN TO DEFEND THIS NATION, HER LAWS, AND HER CITIZENS - TO THE DEATH, IF NEED BE - but to give them the opportunity to choose and proceed.

"Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." -- Captain John Parker, 1775

We must not stop honoring our troops - unless and until they show they have no respect for us. I pray Almighty God that never happens.

Guess what folks our Constitution is being shredded every day and our right are being ursurped. I don't care how many names I am called or how many threats are made aginst me. I am a 70 year old great grandmother with 10 grandkids and 2 great- grandchildren who will not have a future if we do not fight this regime. I am a proud TEA Partier. and I will remain one. I am not going to sit down and shut up as B.O. wants and I am not going to let these military senarios intimidate me. I am sending the link to my representative for a congressional investigation. (Fat lot of good it will do). I have a questio....What do the voters who voted for this community organizer think when he promised to "fundamentally change" our country was talking about? Answer...the only thing you can do to change our country is take away our freedom. God help us all!

'Appropriate counsel' will probably involve ordering military personnel to classify these documents in the future. That would enable the federal government to criminally prosecute people that expose their tyranny.

Yesterday, April 29th, MD Governor O'Malley was in Aberdeen at noon for a rally. 5 other TEA Partiers and I went to Aberdeen, MD to civilly dissent during the governor's campaign speech. As I walked across the park with my Navy Jack and Culpeper (correct spelling) DONT TREAD ON ME flag flying, I was intercepted by an Aberdeen police officer who ordered me to move to the edge of the park. He refused to tell me why nor identify who the higher up was who had given him the order. So much for freedom of expression in Maryland, the Free State.

Several people came over and asked why I was out at the edge of the park, I told them and they approached the officer who told them it was none of their business. An O'Malley campaign worker (?) came over during the rally and we had a civil conversation. He agreed that my being placed where I was caused me to receive more attention from what he had heard from the discussions in the crowd, than if they had allowed me to stand where the other people from our group were. I was not even allowed to move closer to have a picture taken with the other dissenters; they later had to move back to where I was for a picture.

As I said for what will be placed on YouTube, along with my video recording as well, by a citizen who interviewed me, a veteran was denied his first amendment and freedom of assembly rights like a second class citizen.

Do Lexington and Concord ring a bell with anyone? Is that what it's going to take? May God help us.

This is another way to turn one group against another. This is the same way corrupt rulers in some of the foreign countries turn their citizens against Americans. Someone needs to be held accountable and called out about it.

I wouldn't make a big deal out of it. I wouldn't stifle creativity of a young offier, for the sake of our feelings. Whining is weakness. I was an exercise writer for years and an element of combat excites every red blooded American, in the cold war days, we use to write scenarios about German turn-coats and leftist saboteurs, when the Russkies came through the Fulda Gap.

I do not in my military mind, believe that commanders in real life would turn on citizens. There is no way that the Army, National Guard, Air Force, Marines would turn on us. Any military action against the citizenry, on order from El Presidente at this time, WOULD unleash a sleeping giant. I doubt that many commanders would even follow that order.

Remember that the information Mark obtained came from soldiers themselves.

So, so terrible that our news is fabricated for what purpose? alarmist and treason is not a joke.

@T.Green re: Apr 29, 2010 @ 23:51 --

"I would give my spelling about a C-"

I would give your spelling a D-, but I give your great heart an A+!!

Git 'er done, Big Dog!

In my heart, I believe that President Obama believes he has the best intentions for this nation, as I believe many of the Democrats currently in office do.

Saddly, I also believe that they are drunk with power and have lost touch with the American people and have turned to a much more dangerous "Globalization" perspective at the exclusion of the very people that they charged with serving.

In a civil way, they must be reminded that they were elected by the Citizens of the USA and not any other nation. Quite frankly these elected officials have flat out lost their way.

To call "Tea Party" participants Enemy Terrorists is offensive in the least with a serious hint of blatant "Racism" towards Americans with a view of Freedom through the founding fathers of our nation.

This is racism based on ideology rather than skin color and is far more dangerous than a black white thing.

I respect our President as an educated man who has a powerful network of people. However, I also respectfully disagree with the way he is leading this nation.

His method is perhaps the most divisive of my lifetime and we can only call on one another to participate, actively in elected new officials who can withstand the temptation of power...who will actually SERVE the people.

I'm sure you know that our opponents are a little

short on scrupulosity..............

"Appropriate counsel'. Is that newspeak for appropriate remedial action. To authorize and institute a base wide alert requires a written order, with the order line BY COMMAND OF THE COMMANDING GENERAl and a resultant paper trail of this disseminated order.

The result of the inquiry of the original order and the 'appropriate counsel' is eagerly awaited.

How are we certain that this was the poor judgment of an "officer in the security loop"? Might that not be a natural dodge with an unidentified scapegoat for someone higher "in the security loop"? That euphemism could include anyone from a wacked out staff lieutenant on up to the C-in-C himself, or any influential position along the way. I do not think a junior officer would take such a momentous decision on his own, not in today's risk-averse army.

I remember my oath!

As commissioned officers we hold ourselves to a higher standard than any other recognized group in America. Often times we grit our teeth and march on when given orders from our political leaders that are questionable as to enforce that most important military trait discipline. I will admit that we have our 10% throughout the rank structure that should have been released from the service of our country for the "good of the service".

Having said that, regardless of what orders are given by our political leadership, I cannot imagine any non-commissioned or commissioned officer in any branch of the services ever taking up arms and using deadly force against our citizens. That is not what we swore to do.

lets get Our Country back.... It is a Great Country.. We need to remove all the Garbage what ever it might be... This Coutry was made for people who loved God... Men and woman married ... worked... had Children.. Improved the Coutry and left it better for thier Children... Why destroy that? we should remove any person who does'nt fit group.. It does'nt matter what race or color.. just leave if you cant or dont want to live normal...

WELLLLL Sports Fans, It seems that there really is intelligent life forms in the US Military.

"We the people" who know that our wonderful country is in a bad enough situation without some idiot trying to turn the military against those who support it.

TEA Party people are the grass roots of this country. TEA Party people support all that is good. Those who will try to turn the good people against each other, should burn in HELL.

I'm glad the Army IMMEDIATELY responded and it is even more telling that the Patriot Post also immediately informed it's members of the Army's responce.

How fast to you think the Post or Times or Wall Street Journal would make the admission that they were wrong or had incomplete information and the new or updated information was more favorible to the "other side" ?????

As I read your piece yesterday, I thought it was a bit over the top in assigning such Oh-my-God hyperconcern to a non-event. Please don't do this. Let the fear-mongers be all on the other side, and realise that you are one of only a few important sources of truth in a culture war characterized by hyperbole, misdirection and outright lies. A responsible reporter would have called the persons-in-charge and gotten the other side and been able to defuse this before going off half-cocked to print and getting the munchkins all lathered up over nothing. Be careful- you have a huge and volatile audience- and a sacred responsibility to tell the truth.

You all should take a look at the novel I just published REVOLT (www.revoltthebook.com). The first draft was penned in 1997 after Clinton's second term started. A story of a small town of ranchers and farmers in Idaho that refuses to submit to any more intrusive government activities. The resulting standoff finds them isolated by military units, demonized as domestic terrorists by a rogue President and a compliant MSM. The President, a narcissistic young man who believes he is destined to rule the nation, launches his plans to overthrow America. Yep, wrote that in 1997.

I put the draft on the shelf after people I showed it to laughed saying no way it would happen here. They stopped laughing in 2008. It was published in 2009.

Now you know why I'm just a little nervous.

Alphonse opines "I do not in my military mind, believe that commanders in real life would turn on citizens. There is no way that the Army, National Guard, Air Force, Marines would turn on us. Any military action against the citizenry, on order from El Presidente at this time, WOULD unleash a sleeping giant. I doubt that many commanders would even follow that order."

Hey Al, have you forgotten Kent State? If you're too young, google it. It's only by the grace of God that a small demonstration did not turn into more of a bloodbath than it was. But it can happen, especially when your average soldier is in early-to-mid twenties with, thanks to our great government school system, absolutely no knowledge of history, and not enough experience to recognize unlawful orders.

Bill S. (Lieutenant Colonel, US Army, Ret.)

Kind of sounds like the British and Minuteman thing doesn't it.

HL

They say that now , that the public has been made aware by soldiers who take the oath seriously .

Unlike our politicians and some officers (who want to be politicians)

I believe that they are planning on doing just such a thing.

Just look at the secret service making the swat team stand up to all those violent grandma's !

I'm both sickened and saddened -- not by the "exercize" (no surprise there) but that someone daring to write under the header "patriot post" would remove documents that ***NEED TO BE SEEN BY AS MANY AMERICANS AS POSSIBLE!!***

Collaborators are just as verminous now as ever.

Shades of "Captain Queeg" and the Caine Mutiny! It is not clear if the naming, and expanding, of this exercise is military. There appears to be an inference that the directive; naming, expansion of the scenario, etc., occurred at very high levels. There are many instances of inappropriate directives, actions, in military lore. It is possible, though improbable, that a US officer, or senior Non-Com, would create, or condone, such a description of potential "aggressors." I suspect that some high level bureaucrat, unfamiliear with military concepts, issued this denigrating op-order. I hope I am correct. That any level military person would formulate such an identification and resulting scenario would, in the US Navy that I served, be promptly relieved, and quite possibly tried under Article 31---"Conduct Unbecoming---"

Politcal speech, in any form, is discouraged in the US Military. The described scenario certainly constutes political speech. Big no, no!

Politicians like Obama are so frightening. Like many extreme left wing liberals they are intolerant of any criticism. They claim to be the defenders of free speech and liberty, but in fact it is the very opposite. They demonize the Tea Party calling them names and just about claiming they are terrorists, seek ways and means to silence talk radio, this administration is frightening to say the least. I feel our military will stand firm against any illegal order. If our military is going to be used, it should be used to control our porous border from the alien invasion that is bringing drugs, murder, kidnapping, and cartels into our country.

Although sickened by the ramifications of the story, I invoked the 48 hour rule to consider it. Thank you for so promptly displaying the senior command's response. Our God is big, He asks us to trust, He answers prayer.

Therefore your standard admonishment to pray for our armed services ( at the bottom of your postings ) is all the more dear. Keep up the good work.

I took an oath when I entered the Army, and though I'm retired, I WILL honor that oath until I no longer draw a breath, as I'm sure the rest of my fellow veterans will also do. This Administration IS a DOMESTIC enemy of the Constitution. I hope and pray that the young soldiers of today realize that they do not have to obey unlawful orders from this imposter in the White House!

Early this morning (4/30/2010) I was watching Fox and Friends. They had a new brief with video showing a Tea Party of older people sitting in their beach chairs on the sidewalk participating in a Tea Party in Ill. Next you see the cameramen pan to the street where fully armed and suited up were 25 police officers marching down the road to protect against the possibility of an armed rebellion. Totally uncalled for. Totally intimidating especially to the older folks. What is next, rubber bullets or four dead in Ohio again.

Do not believe what the military is telling you. This is a commons tactic used by the military. Here's an example: A few years ago, the Army started asking soldiers how many guns, by type, and location they had. This made national news so the Army came up with a story that the policy was just a lone company commander acting without authorization. This was and is a blatant lie. I have been asked at least 3 times THIS YEAR how many guns, by type, and location that I have. It is Army wide and has continued long since that initial story, but the story succeeded in getting the media ,and angry citizens, off the Army's back.

that information is for official use only, so unless these readers are all Official , it should not be posted.

typical case...the Brass really BELIEVES that it knows what happening all the time...FALSE...the underlings stick things into the mix as matches their political views...rarely get caught nor are they rightly blamed.....Isn't ACORN a prime example of evil-doing in the name of goodwork ????...where are the safe guards ????..or are the underlings doing the work for the Brass ?????

Okay - let me get this straight. An officer in the army, the U.S. Army, altered the scenario “to make it more realistic?” And the altered scenario was carried out despite the fact that those alterations were not approved? This is the U.S. Army, right? The army that is not exactly known for encouraging the exercise of creative talents? The army that drums into the head of each and every recruit the importance of following orders without question and the importance of following orders without alterations of any kind? The follow-the-chain-of-command army? THAT army? And the army is sticking to that story? Well. I guess that was the beginning and the end of a very interesting creative streak on the part of our military. Move over Steven Spielberg!

This is a president that obviously has no intentions of applying the constitution to his political agenda. He is not the only president to blatantly ignore the constitution.

The politicians in this country are moving further and further from the "glue" that was put in place to hold this country together. The constitution was meant to protect the American people from tyranny and abuse of power by the "political leaders". The only reason to completely disregard the constitution is if you want to do something that you shouldn't be doing. Ignorance is no excuse either! In fact, ignorance of the constitution is just as bad as purposely disregarding it and will have the same effect on the American people.

How much longer will we stand by and allow it? If we protest in peace, we are labeled as terrorists. This is a perfect example of how quickly the government can and will turn on the people.

You need to post the photos taken of Mather AFB in Sacramento, and allow everyone to see what really is going on!

Well for the Army apologists who are stating "well they did not mean this, they really can't put in the real scenario etc.." Well that is the problem. My question is this: we most likely, and will definitley know in the next 2 years if we have a defined domestic enemy as our Commander in Chief. We know he is a progressive and a marxist now. The question is what will our military do when this man takes advantage of a emergency and actually activates military units to respond in the U.S. borders. There is a Army unit at Ft Stewart now that is standing by to respond to such issues INCONUS under NORTHCOM command this summer. The Order from NORTCOM states they are to respond to unrest during the "Long Hot Summer of 2010."

I'm waititng for my promotion, and then I will resign 60 days later. Our world is moving quick, and the DOD's top brass are professional beauracrats who have no desire to stand up for the Constitution or any domestic enemies dissasembling our Constituion. This is just the start, and the more things change and our soldiers get back from their deplpyments and they realize what is going on, they will not stand for this, BUT there is a large percentage of the DOD forces that will do whatever is asked of them. Our pop culture and progressivism has destroyed our knowledge of our forefathers and freedom. They are ignorant of our heritage, and will respond when to orders that step all over our Constituiton. Its okay, its all in Gods plan, and alot of the DOD Officers and Enlisted will depart to take care of their families, and do what they need to do to wake up Americans before it is to late.

Good job reporting a MAJOR problem.Perhaps the command officers need to do a better job vetting the people who set up these programs. PC cannot exist in the military. If it does we are all losers.

While I very much appreciate the Commander's response and do accept it, never-the-less, the quote "to make it more realistic" from a subordinate still indicates a mindset among the troops that is troubling. I find it difficult to believe that it could be widespread, but then, I've been wrong before.

Robert, I thank you for your service. We need senior enlisted like you still in. I hate to tell you this sir. But the U.S. Navy has become the most P.C. spineless, and would be the first to volunteer for this duty. The majority of Surface Officer (not pilots...they see a little cleaerer via black and white) are Progressive Libs.....The Naval Academy is a bastion of progressive fraternization, and spineless officers. I sound bitter, but it is the sad state of the U.S. Surface Navy.

Isn't it interesting that when the cold light of exposure focuses on the rats they all scurry for the exits, proclaiming their innocence. As a retired First Sergeant I would have been the first to inform my Commanding Officer that these orders were contrary to our mission. I would have expected him to accept my concerns and voice them to his superiors, as well. Keep after them. Those of us who have served our country stand ready to defend the Constitution again, if needed.

AMEN, LCDR Jeremy Huff. You saved me from having to write it.

This "exercise"is no surprise.A few years ago

I read a "scenerio" that Army troops or National

Guard troops would be dispatched out of their

home base area,so that they would not fire upon

their friends and neighbors. Once it happens you

will have chaous and anarchy in the streets of

America. Study of Russia and Communism and you

will read the blueprint as to how this can

actually come about.I predict within a year from

this date,an "incident"will occur and many Tea

Party people will be killed and injured.Another

step towards Obama becoming Dictator.

ATTENTION ALL MILITATY VETERANS! We defended our nation, many of us in direct harm's way; we therefore all must be extremely gratified with the very large numbers of semior military officers and senior NCO's that have indicated that they strongly support the Tea Party movement. This WWII Marine veteran personally thanks all of those militray officers and senior NCO's for their support. I respectfuilly submit there is an very prococative and interesting cituation here... if this is in any way indication of how the majority of this nation's high ranking militarty officers and senior NCO's feel.. the task of throwing out at least most of those Washington bastards may actually happen in November. The momentum is growing, with God's grace and a lot of hard work I humbly suggest we CAN DO IT! We did it once against a FOREIGN eneemy now lat's do it again, this time against a DOMESTIC enemy. We are backed by our own constitution, "When any government becomes destructive... it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it".

SEMPER FI!

Retired newspaper publisher.

Our Nation is falling. We must pray that our Soldiers will not turn their guns on citizens. The Progressives have made breathtaking strides at taking over our (former) Republic. This November may well be our last election. In the meantime, if you have need of convention space, go to Arizona. Don't go to crime and filth ridden traditional cities, but take your business to Arizona, supporting the Patriots there. May God Save our Nation. If we will pray, turn from our wicked ways and seek His face, then He will hear from Heaven and heal our nation.

Gotta make you wonder....who's telling the truth? Seems like some pretty slopppy management that would allow something like that to get distributed. Either they were asleep at the wheel or now their just doing damage control. Either way it doesn't speak highly of Army command at Ft. Knox.

Brenda says: "I was disappointed in this editorial about Tea Party Terrorists. Although the scenario for the exercise may have been true, it was just that -- a scenario -- and I believe your article yelled "fire" when there was no fire and caused the Army problems in putting out the fire the article caused."

Brenda honey...With an estimated 35 muslim jihadists training facilities sited right here in continental United States...YES! terrorist sites hosted right under the nose of US Federal law enforcement as though we were Afghanistan...How many scenarios for military readiness drills against these terrorist sites have you seen either under Bush or Obama??? WAKE UP LADY and get a brain!!...jeeze. The federal law enforcement referred to here is THE SAME one that has maintained OPEN BORDERS for the past 3-4 decades and now sides with the Mex drug cartels and illegal aliens AGAINST the citizens of Arizona trying to curtail the flow of criminals and terrorists invading their state.

I didn't have the time to read through all of the comments, but I HAVE read the Declaration of Independence, and I would like to quote one particular line within it:

"...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

I would appear that news like this would be a deciding factor in the people turning against their government and installing a new one, that would adhere to the Constitution. It is not "we the people" who are corrupt and dangerous...it is the government now ensconsed in Washington D.C. that needs to be removed from office. Do not forget that in November, because if you do, you may be forced to turn to another civil war in order to save your nation.

IF THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT SOMEONE MAKEING OFF WITH ALL THE GOLD IN FORT KNOX, WHY THE HELL ISNT THERE AN EMBARGO AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE. THAT IS WHERE IT IS ALL BEING STOLLEN FROM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REMEMBER NOVEMBER, REMEMBER NOVEMBER. UNLESS THIS PRSIDENT CAN DRIVE SOMEONE OVER THE EDGE BEFORE THEN AND COME UP WITH A REASON FOR MARTIAL LAW. WHICH HE AND HIS CRONEYS WOULD LOVE.

THIS MADNESS COULD BE CHANGED SOMEWHAT THROUGH THE BALLOT BOX. HOWEVER, THIS TWO PARTY SYSTEM IS ABOUT SOMETHING VERY NONBENIFICIAL TO THE REST OF OUS.

THEMSELVES.........................

The first time I heard that awful Obama speak of some sort of civilian army force, or something like that, the first thing I thought was "SS"! He knows many in the real military are not going to side with him, whether he's the prez or not! He's a damned little dictator in the making.

The difference between the 70's and now is in the 70's the President's friends Bill and Bernadette were blowing up building and killing people. They are now still sorry they didn't kill more. Do you remember the SBLA, the Black Panthers etc? Are you comparing them to the Tea Party people?

In Novemember, remember what Nixon said in '68: "This time, vote like your whole world depended on it." Because, it does.

This a prime example of the panty waist, politically motivated officers and non-commissioned officers that kept Franklin Graham from speaking at the pentagon.

They are the ones seeking (or have) positions with politically connected corporations,VFW, DAV, AMVETS, AMERICAN LEGION, and other organizations begging for fees from active and retired military personnel.

Re: Andrew

"They haven't acted as terrorists to date, but..."

So Andrew, tell me, what constitutes acting as a terrorist? Would it be like the radical liberal environmentalists blowing things up, or perhaps the communist weather underground people that attacked national buildings and have associations with Obama, or how about the liberal radical/terrorists animal rights activists who would rather kill a human to save an animal’s life? I could go on and on.

You either watch way too much liberal news, your chronically agoraphobic, or you been stuck your whole life in the one of those large, collective, brainwashing hubs called large cities.

Venture out into the real world, open your eyes, and meet the real people of America. Meet the traditional, hard-working, spiritual backbone of America, the humble, generous people who help each other when in need, the people who lend a hand to their neighbors without being asked, those who take care of their own families with their own earnings, people who know how to live off the land and are good at it, and those who ask for nothing from the government except to be left alone. Get to know someone who is truly independent and doesn’t need to be cuddled, fed and cradled from birth to death.

Yes meet the Tea Partiers; the ones who Finally had enough of liberals like you stealing from the industrious and giving it away, the people tired of having twisted liberal morals forced down their throats, the folks worn out by the screaming and crying childish liberals because they don’t get their way, and the citizens sick and tired of being told what to do by an increasingly pompous, tyrannical, socialist state.

Wake up dumb a**!!!

The fulfillment of the promise that the official found to be responsible for the faux pas would "receive appropriate counsel," is not verifiable and, therefore, meaningless. In other words, it smells like the typical coverup, where one official protects his or her colleague.

Whoever the person is who implemented this outrage, is no better than the highly paid US Treasury and SEC personnel who spent many, many hours of the taxpayers' time and money watching porn on their (probably) super-expensive laptops. And, just like the porn guys, the punishment is likely to be light or non-existent.

I'm not asking for a firing squad for them, just for a firing.

Ken

Addendum to the comments just sent:

I apologize for not mentioning my gratitude to the brave ... as usual ... military patriots who outed the despicable behavior of certain high-level left wing actors.

These folks are true patriots, and probably most or all of them have already risked their lives in places like Iraq and Afghanistan in fulfillment of their duties. Now they are risking their careers and maybe even their freedom, to inform the rest of us about the malicious behavior and actions of those few who hate America and what it stands for. I applaud them and I humbly offer my thanks.

Ken

What guideline do we have that points out who, what, when, where the military should do to defend the Constitution. Its about time to do something instead of paying lip service to something that will never happen. If this is the case we deserve what we get. What can we do before it's too late. USAF SSGT RETIRED

Old politicians start war then make young men fight it.

I am afraid that as long as Obama and his 'Capone-like' gang are controlling America we will continue to be destroyed. I would like to see them all impeached and taken out of office as soon as possible. The damage is going to be devastating and irreparable. It is like have a dictator in office. I saw this coming from Obama when he was campaigning...people are so blind.

Nice to see common since at it's best. this is perfict example of good old common since. thanks for your report!

I hope this is the truth from the senior officers, if so they need to keep a better control of their men. They need to be reminded just who they are protecting, us " WE THE PEOPLE", not the we the government.

We the people need to keep a better eye on our military and see this does not happen again.

Please pray for our men and women in military service.

I couldn't be there but had a thought for a sign in four parts. Side 1 top: "Tianannmen Square"

Below it would be "Milgram Experiment" which is something very scary to watch and think about, and needful for those "just obeying orders". On side 2 top would be "Which fight for?" and below "Constitution or tyranny". Hopefully it shall never come to a time of decision on that scale but it is something all must decide in peace and not when someone askes which side you are on when your papers are asked for at some check-point.

I don't know whether to believe this article or not. If we had a trustworthy President----nuff said.

What exactly is the senior command staff saying? Would they not have authorized the exercise? Or would they simply have not authorised reference to TEA Party and Anti Government Protesters? It makes a huge difference. If senior command staff authorised the exercise, then they are as much in need of "appropriate counsel" as the one who altered the scenario.

Have you ever noticed that when the government (at all levels) gets caught redhanded in their lies and corruption, they totally reverse their field to try to make consevative patriots believe that they would never do or say what was originally reported. These people are not smart enough to carry out their planned deception.Seek ye the truth, and the truth will make you free! Come on November 02, 2010.

One of the fundamental maxims in the intelligence world is that "...anything that CAN be exploited, WILL be exploited...". But this doesn't just apply to the 'Spy versus Spy'world. I applies in almost every realm of human endeavor. That's what we do. That said, why should we be in the least surprised if this most politically corrupt of all Presidents takes the opportunity to tar a group of PEACEFUL political activists who constitute a powerful threat to his political power? It is libel. Is it unwarranted to assume a political connection between the White House and this officer's action of characterizing Tea Party members as terrorists? I think not. This action is straight out of the Chicago playbook. As an Army retiree from a military family, I cannot imagine any officer in his right mind who would take it upon himself to libel a group as hot-button as the Tea Party movement. It would be an overtly political action addressable under the UCMJ, and it would be a career ender, unless his action had a political godfather in the shadows. The base commander would be prudent to put this officer to the question and find out precisely what motivated him to this action. If this is done, and there is either an abrupt end to investigation, or the intervention of some third party influence, it will the telltale that this was not a solitary initiative.

I Suggest, That You Read The Following Article Carefully ...

“'U.S. Army Trains To Confront Tea Party Terrorists'”

http://www.prisonplanet.com/u-s-army-trains-to-confront-tea-party-terrorists.html

Learn what the “MIAC report” and the “DHS Terrorist Threat Lexicon Document” are, as well as what they say and mean.

(“Google It!”)

Below, are several links on my website, I suggest you take the time to peruse:

(As America, as well as your family's future depends upon it ...)

* http://www.casescorner.com/id18.html

* http://www.casescorner.com/id46.html

“In The Beginning of a Change,

The Patriot Is a Scarce Man ... Brave, Hated and Scorned.

When His Cause Succeeds, The Timid Join Him.

For Then, It Costs Nothing To Be a Patriot.”

~ Mark Twain ~

“All tyranny needs to gain a foothold,

is for people of good conscience to remain silent”

~ Thomas Jefferson ~

“The Truth That Makes Men Free, Is For The Most Part,

The Truth Which Men Prefer NOT To Hear.”

~ Herbert Agar ~

Try to go to the nearby military towns and find mothers and grandmothers of the officers and noncoms to meet in front of the main gate carrying brooms to wipe away the "threats" being made at our fully-armed military forces stationed there. Invite Fox news for an exclusive news report.

The 'TEA Party' movement is in no way anti-government, however it is anti-Omama policy!

There is a very good reason the liberals keep calling us paranoid right-wing nut cases. If they say this enough times the majority of American citizens are too damn lazy to watch and listen carefully to what is going on in America today will buy into these charges. There are too many decisions being made behind closed doors by socialist leaning liberals. Obama was elected by people who never looked at his life, past associations or voting records. He promised them free rides and they voted for him. Those

are the people who believe a Joseph Stalin or Hugo Chavez could never come to power in America. Political correctness, ignorance, laziness, and the eternal search for a free ride off someone else's labor is killing this country.

God will not be mocked. You do reap what you sow. We(myself included)have allowed ourselves to be lulled into compacency. For this we are now reaping a harvest of ill informed, self centered, self serving citizens who do not have the ability to discern Truth from Fiction. Whatever is fed them is not confirmed as Truth. We must become like the Bereans.

I'm going out on a ledge, and predict that come this November after the criminals are voted out, Mr. Nobama will retaliate, and declare Martial Law, and suspend the Constitution, to keep himself in power......Be ready for it folks!

ATTENTION PATRIOTS:

RE: Posse Commitatus and US BILL HR5122, National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007

So much for freedom. The 'Abomination's response to citizenry who simply wish to express opposition to unlawful actions by a Congress and White House gone astray.

Apparently this president is bent on fencing millions who are deeply toubled with actions that have cut the heart out of this once vaunted country.

May God shed His wisdom on the people and elected officials who are empowered to prevent the actions being formed against our collective constitutional freedom and rights.

The totalitarian state was based on boundless dynamism. Totalitarian society was a fully mobilized society: a society constantly moving toward some goal. Which begs the question: Is democracy the means to an end or the end itself? Paradoxically, the totalitarian state never reached its ultimate goal. However, it gave the illusion of doing so. As soon as one goal was reached, it was replaced by another. Such was the case in Stalin's Russia. Stalin implemented a series of Five Year Plans in an effort to build up the industrial might of the Soviet Union. Production quotas were constantly announced well before they had been reached in order to supply the illusion that the Five Year Plan was working. But before the Five Year Plan had run its course, another Five Year Plan was announced. Hopefully, you can intuit the psychological necessity of such an act on Stalin's part.

In the end, totalitarianism meant a "permanent revolution," an unfinished revolution in which rapid and profound change imposed from above simply went on forever. Of course, a permanent revolution also means that the revolution is never over. The individual is constantly striving for a goal which has been placed just a hair out of reach. In this way, society always remains mobilized for continual effort. The first example of such a permanent revolution the "revolution from above," instituted by Joseph Stalin in 1927 and 1928. After having suppressed his enemies on both the left and the right, as well as the center, Stalin issued the "general party line." Anyone who deviated from that line was condemned to either exile or execution -- in most cases, execution. Stalin's aim was to create a new kind of society and a new human personality to inhabit that society: socialist man and socialist woman -- Homo Sovieticus. At the same time, a strong army would have to be built as well as a powerful industrial economy. Once everything was owned by the State, Stalin believed, a new kind of human personality would emerge. The Soviets under Stalin were by no means successful. Just the same, the Soviets did build a new society, one whose basic outlines survived right down to the late 1980s.

However, Stalinist society did have its frightening aspects and none was more frightening than the existence of brutal, unrestrained police terrorism. First used against the wealthy peasants or kulaks during the 1920s and 1930s, terror was increasingly used against party members, administrators and ordinary people. No one would ever be above suspicion -- except Stalin, of course. Some were victims of terror for deviating from the party line -- others were victims for no apparent reason other than Stalin's moodiness. One Soviet recalled that in 1931, "we all trembled because there was no way of getting out of it. Even a Communist can be caught. To avoid trouble became an exception."

http://www.historyguide.org/europe/lecture10.html

And then we saw the Swat Teams being dispatched to the Tea Party in Illinois, you know, gotta protect the masses of gimmes from those who would dare to question Obozo's self-made authority.

Having been in the military and gone through training like this, it is nice to have an idea of the actual enemy. If there were verifiable Tea Party murders then I could see some need but this just seems like a tactic out of North Korean Communist Control Play Book to me. I do wonder when the military will actually have a plan to defend against terrorists that are within the rank and file. I hope it is before another Jihad-o-maniac goes wacky on another base. At least they have a history of killing that we should be concerned about. I would hate to see more children lose parents because the military is so off focus. I love our armed forces, but they must weigh these things a little more heavily and understand that they are under political scrutiny when they go political like this.

Nice to know that a position of such importance was totally unobserved by superiors. Yeah, right.

Honeslty, this was very educational for me. I'm going to this holistic lds living conference in june and I was so hoping they would have had a class on government or something because I think it's essential for lds people to really be involved. thanks for this!

I served in the Armed Forces and participate in the Southeast Asian Olympic War Games in 1968-69. The progressive, liberal red diaper doper babies were causing havoc back in the US at the time. When I returned to the US in 1969 my welcoming was celebrated by these same people by spitting on me at the San Francisco Airport. It is these same people who have now infiltrated the government of the United States. These are the same people who are being catered to by the "career conscious" military officers and civilians leading our Department of Defense and intelligece agencies. There use to be an old saying military and intelligence are oxymorons. Oxymoron best describes what is "leading" our country today.

Within the hallowed halls of the DHS, the White House and the Capitol building are people who wish to portray the real Americans as bigotted terrorists. Yet what have we seen in the way of terrorism within our borders? Drug cartels pushing their violence across the border, not just targeting competitors but our law enforcemet officials. The we hear from the head of the DHS that our borders are more secure than ever before.

We have so-called Americans running off to the Middle East, not to fight in the US Armed forces but to attend terrorist training camps. These are your home grown terrorists, not grandma and grandpa or mom and dad, or little Jimmy and Trudy attending tea parties in the town square. ( And if you'll notice, when the tea parties are over the town square is cleaner than it was before the party. )

The home grown terrorists are sheriffs like the ones in Pima and Yuma County who have said they will not perform their duties to protect the citizens who pay their wages against the illegal alien invasion. Or the Boston Police Chief who allows illeals from Ireland to bask in the reality of freedom in his city.

No, the terrorists are not the American citizens demanding that the govrnments do the jobs they are suppose to do, to enforce ALL THE LAWS, not be selective in enforcement. Somehow I just don't see the reasoning behind targeting honest, freedom loving Americans as terrorists. This does not compute!

To Bob Kern and any others who want to make uninformed, idiotic and inaccurate comments about the "mercenaries" who worked for Blackwater and will "do anything for money", please shut your yap. Having spent the last seven years inside that company and a few other lesser known ones, I can tell you that, with few exceptions, the men who work inside these organizations are extremely patriotic and view the government with as much trepidation as others. They are intelligent, well-read and highly trained. Further, it has amazed me that in all the demonizing on BW that has gone on, it has escaped mention that on every assignment, they are fulfilling a government contract and are working in direct support and under the direct supervision of the Department or Agency that hired them, with fulltime gov't employees supervising all operations. They are not some independent body running around the world, doing as they please. Just a convenient scapegoat. There have been some horrible incidents that have taken place by people under their employ, but they are not representative of the norm. Again, the men working in these positions are some of your greatest allies, and you may one day owe your continued freedom to them, as they(including me)will quickly go to battle to preserve our constitutional rights.

It was just a couple of years ago, during the Bush administration, that the Democrats were screaming into media cameras where ever possible, that disagreeing with the Bush administration was a patriotic action. It was what this country was all about. It was their right to share their disagreements. Obviously, not the case with the Obama administration. Peaceful protestors like the Tea Party, who dare to speak out on the uncontrolled spending and government intrusion into our liberties, get belittled, degraded, and called more of a threat than Islamic terrorists. Very sad chapter in American history.

"The natural cure for an ill-administration, in a popular or representative constitution, is a change of men." --Alexander Hamilton

I have participated in many TEA Parties, some small, and others large this includes the September 12, 2009 Washington DC TEA Party March. I have met people from every state, they were Republican, Democrat, independents, Liberals, and Moderates. We are all of the same mind; reduce taxes, smaller government, returning to the Declaration of Independence, the United States Constitution, and our Bill of Rights. The first ten Amendments to the Bill of Rights are explicit in their meaning, the were put into place to protect the people from an oppressive and intrusive government. The TEA Party Goers are absolutely within their Constitutional rights to protest. It cannot be stated any more succinctly than in the last 29 words of the First Amendment; "or abridging the freedom of speech, or the press, or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

If you are requiring the e-mail address as a point to get back at us you may as well forget it. As, I personally do not care. I am old and will die anyway so why not now. As far as I am concerned the man in the White House is the terrorist, Not the Peace Loving Tea Party. I am appalled at those who do not see what this man is trying to do. As far as I am concerned he may as well resign NOW before we have to THROW HIM and his coharts out of the White House. I know his people will read this and like so many others I could care less. I will fight for my family and my country. Also, I believe in the resurrected Jesus Christ as my LORD and Savior and will Back Israel 100%. Come and get me OBAMA, you kill me you will have many more CHRISTIANS to kill too.

The seive leaks ! Now comes the white-wash,denial and cover-up. When its gets this deep from "officialdom" go for your hip boots...It will get higher and deeper.

I'm an 80-yr. old AF K-Vet and have never seen anything such as you described in the original msg!!

Is the 'CIC' out of his mind, or as many have discovered, not suitable for the position he occupies?

I have access to Strafor info, and perhaps you folks might access from this intel, as well as other sources - exposing traitors and others of the types being mentioned in the MSM (Main Stream Media) should be our (Patriots) top priority!

The Topcat (from the Dont' tread on me state - R.I.)

I urge all who have sons and daughters in the military pass this info about Obama and Manufactured Crisis. Also make them aware of how they administration is training civilians for security.

http://www.trumanproject.org/training

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

My fear is the 'Terrorist' threat is a diversion for what they are really doing here at home.

Why are they injecting civilians in the Afganistan

battle?

Why is the American Legion fearful of Obamas warming up to the UN International Criminal Court

which opens criminal prosecution to our troops

http://www.legion.org/landingzone/12058/warming-icc

We must get this message out to our Troops,our Vets, law enforcement personnel. These are the final link for their control of the country.

Appears there is always some 'crisis' when they are passing legislation, rapidly. They are controlling the govt by 'regulations', and laws.

Karl Marx realized the power he could gain, by getting on the 'committee' to wright the Constitution and laws of the International Workingmans Union. He was enthused about America's potential for his ideology. He had agents during the Civil War here in America reporting to him.

He and Engels where columnists for guess, which newspapers. Yep, the NYT and Herald Tribune.

At the International meetings he put the 'American Flag' center-stage.

WE must Organize, there are too many sites that confuse people. Time is against us.

It is heart warming to know that there are so many people that feel as strongly as I that our countries leadership is power hungry and intent on forcing their harmful philosophy on the citizens of our (still)great country.

Your example of the incident at Ft. Knox is but one example of the erosion of stability and sanity of those who wish to undermine the strength and values that our country is based on.

We must keep fighting. We can't sit back and just let this happen.

GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

Should we realistically expect something like the Tiananmen Square incedent here in our own great nation? The "great unifier (Obama) has done everything BUT unify. He is deliberately pitting us against each other. "Cops acting stupidly" anyone who actually works for a living, business owners, doctors, farmers, firefighters, everyone from Joe the plumber to grandma is demonized. peaceful demonstrators are marked as violent and dangeropus. He is dividing this nation because so divided we are weakened and cannot stand against him. God help us. God Bless America!!!!

Why Tea Parties and not the freaking May Day'ers???

Too much for this administration to handle. Keep the faith folks!!!

Bravo,Bravo! To all of you wonderful Patriots I don't know how many are on this list and it just keeps growing but it feels my heart with so much pride that our brave men of warriors who fought for this great country and are on the battlefield still fighting for Americas freedoms will stand up to protect us at no costs against the Tyranny of this Government who are systematically dismantling our Constitution. My family of men fought in 5 wars as many of you all have. We Americans who love this great Country cannot allow this to happen. For then now ask yourselfs what was it all for? all that you fought for, our fallen soldiers who gave their lives for their Brothers in Arms to give us freedom, the Pows who were and still missing that were locked in cages with hope that what they and their families had to sacrifice was it all now done in vain? As Benjamin franklin said;"We must indeed, all hang togehter or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately" and as Paul Revere said; "Give me Liberty or give me death" All of you are in my prayers but as Jesus has said and warned us we are to put on our full armor to fight against evil and we are now seeing the Darkness of Evil rising! It will take every good American to stand shoulder to shoulder -side by side if need be to get our Liberties and our Country back, With all of you by our side and Our Lord leading the way we shall know and have Victory God Bless you all and America Maria-Liberty Belle

Please, please let us know that you plan to hold rallies in both south and West Counties...and in a place where there is PLENTY of parking.

Consider this: The question is often asked if Obama knows what he is doing....Food For Thought: I respectfully submit that he knows exactly what he is doing; i,e., breaking the back of the United States financially. I may be thought of as ''out there'', but what better way to destroy a country than by attacking it financially.

I personally believe that this is a mandate from Obama's superiors in the Nation of Islam, or destroy the ''infedels''.

He, Obama, works hand in hand with the Socialist Democratic Party of the United State - but congress just is approaching the task of destroying the U.S.

usind principles of socialism and, thus, breaking the back of what this great country was founded on....freedom form government and to be ablre to exercise the practice of free entrprise.

Again, just food for thought..

You, also may believe I'm ''out to lunch'' - but I don't believe I am, or at least, totally.

Think the FBI has a good copy of this letter?

Why not?...this administration and the democratic congress, along with a handfull of rrepublicans, are taking away one freedom after another all too quickly.

Respectfully,

Paul Rutkowski

Let's get to the polls this Novermber and rid our Country of these parasites and bring back our Constitution!

Would like to make a correction on above comment It was Patrick Henry who said; 'Give me Liberty or give me death" but I would like to add though that Paul Revere when he rode he warned "the British are comming" It will be our Brave men and women yelling YOU don't know who your messing with!!!!!!

As a former soldier in the U.S. Army and as a Tea Partier, I feel betrayed.

If the US Army is ordered to go domestic to quell criminal speech and unlawful political assemblies, we'll have no recourse but to accept the new political paradigm and adapt. A new America is emerging, and we must not get in the way of history. Yes, I know life will become more regimented, and we'll become more tightly controlled under the watchful eyes and iron fists of the ruling and financial elite classes, but we have no other choice. After a people have permitted, via both parties, to expand the State to such a colossal size, It is really too late in the game to take umbrage now. The American Leviathan State is here to stay and is not going away.....EVER. In the UK, we have adapted to our circumstances too. A planned and command economy with totalitarian overtones is in the winds of change for all of us. It's in the cards. The American Constitution will continue to be rendered mute, nullified or redefined into impotence. Why resist? Who can resist the will of the elite classes and their State? Who can resist history?

My friends, how much does the State weigh? Can you withstand the weight of the State? Accept your situation.

This sort of propaganda and the ginning up of hysteria by Obama and his Propaganda machine needs to cease. The MSM has completely sold out, and you cannot count on one word they say.

Obama's incendiary remarks toward Wall Street, Toward Bankers, etc. was inciting ACORN and others of their ilk who receive federal tax dollars to use for their organizing efforts, to go out and terrorize bankers and other affluent citizens. Obama's remarks about Arizona's immigration law, has likewise, been used as a Call for Massive Riots and Protests by Lawless Demonstrators, including Illegal Aliens.

Obama is purposely Inciting People of the Left toward Violence and is Undermining the Rule of Law in Arizona and in the nation.

This Regime must be exposed for all their dirty deeds.

Let us just hope and pray that we still have military commanders who are intelligent enough and who love this country enough that they Will Expose and Question Mr. Obama on his Unlawful Orders, such as this.

Unfortunately, the average American does not know or care about how our military is being slowly integrated into responding to domestic "threats". This administration, and its totally unqualified commander-in-chief, is blatantly abusing the U.S. Constitution in too many ways to count. It does appear their goal is to force some kind of domestic confrontation that will justify military intervention. Once that occurs, they will have laid the groundwork for their own "domestic militia". We can only hope concerned citizens will take appropriate action in November.

This rogue government will soon come for Americans' guns just like they did in New Orleans. All citizens were disarmed by the force of our own National Guard. If you think that our own forces are intelligent enough to not take the only and last line of defense we have against total tyranny; I pray you are right. Because this time as you all can see we cannot afford to submit our weapons even to our own troops. It should be apparent that the current rogue administration intends to take our freedoms and hand over the soveriegnty of our great nation to a global one world dictatorial order. We were never asked if this was our wish and no vote was ever taken. I think that if and when the government attempts to take our guns the American people should target the masters that ordered the coup not just their dogs that rush to enslave the people.

this is a false flag operation to gage our responce. Homeland security has already showed their hand about we patriots Don't beleive a word they are saying God Bless Ed

Please translate Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis into English for me.

Re: Rory Bebbington (UK) - The Fatalist

Rory, unlike our collectivist cousins in the UK, any chronic despotism by our government will eventually be met with force, either through elections or by armed confrontation. It is our independent minded nature and freedom loving American consciousness to resist and fight back, just as your forefather found out during the revolutionary war.

Fortunately our country, unlike yours, is not yet completely filled with brain dead, programmed automatons suckling ever so quietly off mother state’s teats. We still have spirit, where you have lost yours.

The biggest difference, and one that will set surely set off a second civil war, is our 2nd amendment rights. You have none nor the means to resist, therefore, your must bend to your socialist's states will without recourse. Even without 2nd amendment rights, we would still resist and fight. The British citizenry have evidently become cowardly sheep living off the states scraps when they fit to distribute them.

Thanks God people like you are few and far between in America!

Oh and by the way, please don’t call us your friends. Most of my friends in the United States still have balls!

Perhaps you and your countrymen could learn something from your Irish fighting neighbors. They still have balls and are fighting for a cause they believe in, that is, their freedom from an oppressive British tyranny!

It seems apparent true Americans are being placed in a similar situation as our Founding Fathers. A tyrannical government, in Washington instead of across the ocean, working diligently to eliminate Americans freedoms, over tax its hard working people, and force America into a socialistic/one world government.

I am hopeful the November elections will slow/reverse this process but selecting the correct candidates is difficult given the unkept promises of both parties to get elected. This is an issue of republicans as well as democrats. Republicans are as much to blame for Americas current situation as the democrats. A republican my entire life I am now a Patriot. My vote will go to the candidate most likely to adhere to the Constitution & Bill of Rights for governing. My concern is there a few of these politicians left.

As i reread the Constitution, Bill of Rights & Federalists Papers my respect & admiration for the intelligence & commitment of those men who created these documents continues to grow. Fresh from fighting a war for freedom against a tyrannical government, they understood the danger of a federal government with to much power evidenced by their drafting of the 2nd Amendment. It was their belief a nation of armed men & women was necessary to avoid/eliminate the unjust expansion of federal power over American citizens & their freedoms.

I pray and hope voting Americans can change the destructive path politicians in Washington are taking this Great Country. If Washington politicians continue to ignore the demands of hard working Americans will we ultimately be forced to take the same actions as our Founding Fathers. They crafted the 2nd Amendment as a way for Americans to maintain the Republic along with our God given right to Life, Liberty, & the Pursuit of happiness. I am hopeful this option will never be necessary. It is the action or lack thereof by the elitist politicians in Washington that will ultimately decide the fate of this country or the action necessary by Americans to stop them.

It is time for all Americans to unite against the failed policies of Washington. Power corrupts & absolute power absolutely corrupts.

Folks, don't believe it can't happen. I was just reading "Why women *MUST* vote……". (Just type it in and goggle it.) It speaks of the time when women were fighting to have the right to vote - during President Wilson's time. (He, at that time, had the same agenda that Obama has.) The women were tormented and put in jail, just for wanting the right to vote. Human nature hasn't changed very much - it could happen again. Every time I see a policeman, I want to ask them, "Would you put me in jail just because I'm a Christian or just because I don't go along with what the government is doing?" That day may very well come. We need to pray, pray, pray! AND VOTE!

Our military will not fire against their parents.We may have a commander in chief, but whom will he command.

On the plus side, we now know more about our domestic enimies and where the rocks are that they crawled out from under.

The fact that Knox would put in the Tea Party is really ominous. Tea Party members that I know are really pretty conservative, and many believe in MLK type protests. BUT.. Let us no0t tick off the American people. We are the power. Americans- Sorry-TRUE AMERICANS- hardly respond to threats in a "duck" kind of way. Duck or Bleed means we all suffer.

Statement from Fort Knox leadership: Unauthorized scenario information concerning current political issues were added to a planned emergency response exercise held at Fort Knox on April 27. The official exercise script used by the Installation Command Post during the exercise included no reference to the Tea Party movement, political parties or political issues. Fort Knox leadership takes this situation seriously and regrets any misunderstanding this may has caused. An official investigation has been initiated to determine the manner in which this information was included in the exercise scenario. Fort Knox leadership is committed to continued positive associations with our community groups and organizations and will continue to work to enhance and improve those relationships.

RE: Rory Bebbington (UK)

In reading your comments on the current crisis In American I found it interesting you referenced a need for military action to quell criminal speech & unlawful assembly.The hard working Americans in protest against the socialistic policies of our federal government are not criminal in speech or unlawful political assembly. It would be helpful if you would take time to read the Constitution, Bill of Rights, & Federalist Papers. The Federalist Papers provide a detailed explanation of why specific articles were crafted into these documents by the Founding Fathers. These men understood Americans rights to life, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness are granted by God not an elitist group of politicians, & crafted these documents to protect these rights. Understanding these freedoms would be in danger by a tyrannical federal government they crafted the 2nd Amendment. They believed an armed society was the best way to protect these freedoms and granted all Americans the right to keep and bear arms.

You mention Americans permitting the federal government to expand (to much power) & we are responsible for this. Unfortunately for too long many hard working Americans believed the lies & promises made by politicians in Washington while others were unwilling to work, give up freedoms, & sell votes in exchange for free handouts. It is the Obama administration's open contempt for the principals that made America great & the attempt to expedite socializing America that has woken the people. It is my hope your comment of being to late is incorrect. The people in the UK may not have had another choice to socialism but Americans do. Though I hope this is not an option we will need to exercise, If forced by the federal government we have the right provided in the 2nd Amendment. The federal government may ultimately force Americans to decide if they will live on their feet as free men or on their knees as slaves.

From all your comments the issue most concerning is the effect socialism must have on the people, defeated attitude and willingness to allow an elitist few to dictate what the rest of the population can and can't do. This is not freedom only existence. Americans fought a revolution against this form of government and it is my belief a majority are prepared to undertake similar action if necessary to avoid this new political paradigm you speak of.

John Blackburn

What a crock!

Many members were extremely agitated at what they referred to as Government intervention and over taxation in their lives. Alcohol use 'fanned the flames.' Many military grade firearms were openly carried. An ad hoc 'shoot the government agent' event was held with prizes (alcohol) given for the best shot placement."

The report states further, "Components of bomb making are reported to have been on the site. Some members have criminal records relating to explosive and weapons violations."

Maybe things are different out west, but they're a bunch of old farts around here carrying signs and singing the national anthem! Ha Ha Ha Do they really think this will fly? Are we really that stupid??? The B.S. meter is off the charts on this one. Must have been Mark Potak or the other queer that wrote this one.

Dear Alexander,

This information is deeply disturbing and very disappointing. Please keep us posted. Really this disturbs me more deeply that what is going on in Washington. A great number of citizens discern what is going on in Washington, are alarmed and taking right action-i.e. Teas Party rallies and forums, and grassroots conservatives championing conservatives for office. Could our military be so ILL INFORMED??

Cheri

American Patriot

"It's coming. Even some law officers acknowledge the possibility."

As the spouse to a Federal Agent, yes it is, G-d have mercy on us.

To John Blackburn:

I, in fact, had responded civilly without using obscene, profane or abusive language and even provided a sampling of your own founders' quotes regarding the policies of both the previous Bush administration and the current Obama administration, but they were inexplicably deleted from this site.

I do not endorse the emerging totalitarian direction that your country has embarked upon under the Bush and Obama administrations. My deleted comment had referenced the fact that your national policies since at least the days of Woodrow Wilson (actually, since Lincoln) have taken a hard turn toward the consolidation of all political power in your central government in Mordor-on-the-Potomac. The statism, internationalism, interventionism, authoritarianism, imperial nationalism and collectivist policies have all but superceded your former political philosophy of limited government, constitutional republicanism and free market economics.

You may call me a defeatist, but I am only pointing out the reality of your dire circumstances, which have been going on a lot longer than this current administration. Again, accept your situation. It will not change for the better.

WHO EVER SENT THAT MEMO OUT SHOULD BE FIRED FROM WHAT EVER OFFICE THEY HOLD. MOST EX MILITARY PEOPLE WHO WENT THROUGH BASIC TRAINING TOOK PLEDGES STATING THAT I AM AMERICAN FIGHTING MAN I SERVE IN THE FORCES WHICH GUARD MY COUNTRY AND OUR WAY OF LIFE AND I AM PREPARED TO DEFEND MY COUNTRY AND OUR WAY OF LIFE. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATON IS ONE HELL OF A BUNCH OF ANTI-AMERICANS. I SURE HOPE OUR MILITARY WHO ARE OUR FAMILY, CHILDREN, NEIGHBORS ECT. WAKE UP TO THE FACT OBAMA AND COMPANY ARE ANTI- AMERICAN. WHAT PEOPLE WILL DO TO SELL THERE SOULS.

To Roy Bebbington,

Thank you for your repsonse and comments. My intital response to you was not intended to be insulting or abusive. I guess I am late in this discussion I did not have the benefit of your earlier comments. From your last response it is obvious you are far more knowledgable than I intially gave you credit for and for this I am sorry. It is great to see many individuals from various countries and ethnic groups taking interest in the current world affairs. Hopefully together we can make a difference.

I agree with your comment placing blame on both the Bush Admin. as well as the O'Bama Admin. Had the Bush administration adhered to the conservative policies promised during their campaign there is a chance America would not currently be governed by a radical democratic party.

Additionally I agree with your comments about the policies of Woodrow Wilson and Abraham Linclon. It was the article provided by the Patriot Post on Presidents Lincoln's abuse of our founding documents that woke me to length of time this abuse has been going on. In America we are taught Lincoln was a grat president and saved the Union but as I have matured and began to study more it is easy to see that no president has abused our founding documents more than Lincoln. He is the only president in American history to force the views of the north on the rest of America by declaring war & using federal troops to enforce these views. Obviously those who win the war write the history.

It is my belief our founding fathers would roll over in their graves if they could witness the actions of the current federal government. I may be nieve but I have always felt America was a beacon of freedom though I am aware we have made mistakes internally & internationally. I am guessing a majority of the information on American politics & its people is provided by our liberal press who support the elitists & their socialist form of governing. Please know the lies spewed by our press are not reality. A majority of Americans are fed up with the policies of Washington & the lies of its lap dog the American press. Your comment about America accepting history & a new socialists form of goverment may ultimately come to pass but before this happens those living outside of America might have the opportunity to witness another revolution.

Again thanks for taking time to respond. It is always beneficial to receive a different perspective.

John Blackburn

Regarding the Ft. Knox exercise, I'm reminded of the exercises required for all Army military units, Active, National Guard and Reserve, in response to the anti-war demonstrations in th 1960s. After the Kent State affair, the exercises were rapidly initiated to ensure that better methods of crowd control were implemented, but the scenarios used were very similar to that used at Ft. Knox.

I think you should send this article to Sean Hannity at Foxnews. I really believe he will give significant airtime to this subject.

http://www.numbersusa.com/faxes?ID=12176

The American people do not want the Congress to pass any amnesty in 2010. I expect you to respect our wishes!

Illegal immigration is not a victimless crime. There are 15 million American workers who are unable to find work and further 10 million who cannot find a full-time job. Every one of these 25 million Americans are victims of illegal immigration.

Any legislation that amnesties the 12-18 million illegal aliens living in the United States would destroy the hopes and aspirations of these 25 million Americans. Do you really want this on your conscience?

The American people are counting on you to do the right thing; please don’t let us down.

My statement begins here:

The term illegal alien means that the person is in the United States illegally.

illegal |i(l)ˈlēgəl|

adjective

contrary to or forbidden by law, esp. criminal law : illegal drugs.

noun

an illegal immigrant.

I just wanted you to see for a fact that I am right. An illegal act is also a criminal act.

criminal |ˈkrimənl|

noun

a person who has committed a crime : these men are dangerous criminals.

adjective

of or relating to a crime : he is charged with conspiracy to commit criminal damage.

• Law of or relating to crime as opposed to civil matters : a criminal court.

Once again just trying to make sure you understand the meaning of these two words before I go on.

Now that we have the definitions defined I have a question for you;

“What part of the word ‘Illegal’ don’t you understand?”

Illegal means that these aliens have broken the laws of the United States of America, the very same Country you swore to defend;

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

You know, I took a similar oath when I joined the Marine Corps;

I, John R. Turner, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

you know what, I still take said oath very seriously. “Why don’t you?”

I bet I know why. It is because it means absolutely nothing to you, just as the Constitution for the United States of America means absolutely nothing to you.

Your only desire is to destroy the dream of what Our Founding Fathers had when they created this Grand Experiment called the United States of America, a Country ruled by law, not by man and that is really what is tearing you up inside, isn’t it? You and your comrades are not rulers, you are the servants of man and that eats away at your (I almost said soul) psyche. You can not stand the fact that in the eyes of the Constitution you are but a servant of man.

My name is:

John R. Turner

Chino Valley, AZ 86323

If you have the gonads for it give me a call.

PS;

By the way since you it is apparent that you either never read any of Our Founding Documents or it has been so long since you have that you have forgotten what the real meaning of America is, you can go to my forum;

http://constitutiontalk.lefora.com/

and learn what it truly means to be a Citizen of the United States of America.

This is truly frieghting!! American Flags cannot be worn on an unofficial, un-american holiday!? The list of these types of things is not only daily but they are happening several times a day. Is there any point when America will truly wake up! I know there are millions of people like me who wonder the same thing but I think the time to wonder has past. We are so close to losing our country to people who do not possess the wisdom to understand what is going on. One only needs to look at who the majority of the "voters" thought was the right guy for the job in the white house.

All I can say is command staff lies a lot. You can bet your life they are running the scenarios. Our service people are quietly being desensitized to firing on AMERICAN citizens revolting against unconstitutional actions by the scumbama regime.

I think it is a disgrace that we cannot show Americas colors. This is America we owe these people coming here illegaly nothing. They are terrorists. Holding signs saying they will shoot police officers. For my family that has fought in both world wars. my father who fought in the Korean war. This is a direct slap in the face! They are sending billions of dollars out of this country thru Western Union. For the support of drug cartel rapists and murders! Our Gov. has been lettung this go on too long. We have the right for protection against this invasion!

It is disheartening to read that our own military would even consider training in a scenario in which non violent patriotic Americans exercising their 1st amendment rights are the threat to national security. I feel that the this current administration knows that what they are trying to do is bordering the crime of high treason. therefore, they are doing everything in their power to demonize legitimate protesters and list them as terrorist. I pray to the Almighty in Heaven that providence favors our efforts in returning our country to which our founding fathers had created.

This not only does not surprise me, but I am fully convinced that the Government will "make up" some kind of excuse at one of these rallies so that they can "prove their point." I believe that they will even "plant" people that do have live bombs, etc. The "ignorant media" will believe everything the government tells them and hundreds of, otherwise, law abiding citizens will be placed in these confinement areas for indefinite periods of time. This, in the government's mind will "teach us to think for ourselves." When this happens, the "peaceful" patriot declaration will have to GO! It will be time for a "call to arms!" Fortunately, I also believe that most of the armed forces will side with us. The police, I'm not so sure of? We'll see when the day comes. J.H.

Hasn't anyone ever heard of United States federal law The Posse Comitatus Act? I quote directly from Wikipedia: "The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed on June 18, 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, with the intention (in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807) of substantially limiting the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement. The Act prohibits most members of the federal uniformed services (today the Army, Navy, Air Force, and State National Guard forces when such are called into federal service) from exercising nominally state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order" on non-federal property (states and their counties and municipal divisions) within the United States.

The statute generally prohibits federal military personnel and units of the National Guard under federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The Coast Guard is exempt from the Act."

I'm asking you to think for yourself. Why has the Federal Government the Posse Comatatus Act as an excuse to NOT protect our federal Mexican boarder against illegal immigrants entering our country illegally, but they didn't have a problem using federal military forces against the AMERICAN CITIZENS at Kent State, WACO, Ruby Ridge, New Orleans (Katrina) and threatening to use Military forces at Ft. Knox. (Unless the federal gov considers Ft. Knox "FEDERAL PROPERTY") Ask your self this next question. Why do the Feds appear to be more afraid of the American Citizens who have DONE NOTHING but PAY TAXES and peacefully disagree with the current administration's agenda than the thousands of illegal Mexicans that were caught on video throwing bottles at police officers and causing thousands of dollars of damage to personal property?

Don't you sleep well at night knowing we pay the Federal Government to incarcerate and murder innocent, peaceful, protesting Americans? Our tax dollars provides the financing enabling them to do so.

Signed,

An old, tax paying,tired, sickly, registered voter..Can't wait until November and 2012!!!

I have seen articles that back up Mr Alexander's essay on the US military being geared up to use against the "citizens" of our once great country. World Net Daily,Heritage.org, and Prisonplanet.com,which is the most extensive, and also shows how the "unification" of North America is now happening at an ever increasing pace! The US, Canadian and Mecican militries have been combined into one unit. Don't believe it? Go to http://www.prisonplanet.com to see for yourself.

Mark, you do realize that US troops around the world are under UN Command, ergo, if the troops are ordered to so something against our own people, do they disobey a UN Command? This is a question that has been worrying me. It is more than just a little disquieting to see our forces wearing those blue helmets. I say, let's get America out of the UN and get the UN out of America.

Let's face it folks, we are at THE turning point of history. Either we will face it head on, or we will be led off like sheep to the FEMA camps.

The criminal organization we call the Federal Govt. has over stepped it's bounds for a long time. It will be up to us, the states and the American people to stand up and be counted. In the end we will have no choice.

So stock up. Stock up on non perishable food, water and ammo. We are in for a bumpy ride.

To the gracious Mr. Blackburn-

I hope you Americans are successful in your collective endeavor to regain your lost Republic, but it is imperative that your movement capture some rank and file allies in your military, police and legal institutions or your fate will be sealed just as Thomas More's was so long ago by one of our despotic monarchs of our own stained Anglo history. As I've stated previously, I am not optimistic regarding the American situation.

See what empire does to a once free people? The statist maintenance of imperial policies abroad does not preclude the same policies here in the domestic front. This is the key to our lost liberties here in the UK. It's impossible for any empire to sustain a limited government; eventually the despotism will take hold in the "Heimat".

Here, James Madison's words are most instructive:

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."

"No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare."

"The means of defence against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home." ....and John Quincy Adams:

"America goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. America is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own."

America must abandon its interventionist foreign policy in order to return to some semblance of its former self, for empire can lead only to economic ruin, bankruptcy and tyranny. (Even if that empire is in behalf of enforcing UN resolutions.)

Your founders were not economic "isolationists", they were political isolationists. The differences between the two are huge. The wisdom of your forgotten founder's philosophy was to ensure liberty and limited government, hence your nation's founding as a republic. Moreover, be careful of seeking statist, police state policies when confronting internal problems which themselves were largely introduced or magnified by the State. Fredric Bastiat and Lord Acton warn of the "solutions" being concocted in the same State lab as the problems. (Read Lord Acton's letter to a retired Robert E. Lee, circa late 186os)

Do not worship the State or its agents. You must understand that the State's sole purpose is to protect your God-given rights. Nothing more. If the State goes beyond protecting life, liberty and (private) property, it is on its way to a positivist form of government and eventually totalitarianism. Statism isn't a deadly disease which only afflicts Stalin's Soviet Russia, Mao's communist China, Hitler's fascist Germany, Pol Pot's Cambodia and third world tinpot dictators. There is no iron clad rule which prohibits any nation-state of the West from this democidal affliction, including the United State. Again, James Madison is useful here:

"Prudent jealousy is the first duty of citizens...

The freemen of America did not wait till usurped

power had strengthened itself by exercise, and

entangled the question in precedents. They saw all

the consequences in the principle, and they

avoided the consequences by denying the principle."

Unfortunately, over the last century, Americans have allowed the "usurped powers" to strengthen itself by exercise "and entangled the question in precedents", for you did not "avoid the consequences" because you failed to "deny the principles". As a result, your work to restore liberty and limited government is now a tall, nearly impossible, task.

You are correct about the UK; its over here. For self defence, we aren't even permitted to carry a folding, fixed blade knife of any length, or a folding knife (Swiss knife) of three or more inches. We can carry a fixed blade knife in a bag or camping pack, but only if we can prove we were going directly to a national park for camping activites. If the bobbies aren't convinced, you will be arrested, and it's a two year sentence. If you're arrested for possessing a blackmarket handgun, forget it. You might want to prepare for a long, lengthy lockdown.

So, for the sake of liberty -your liberty- I wish you all well.

You'll need divine assistance....plenty.

I am so grateful to see so many true patriots!! I know so many people are extremly concerned right now as to where all this is going and where it will end. (I am one of them). I do not think this could possibly end peaceful.

Just as others do not advocate violence I also do not; but we must remember this form of fascist government will be violent to enforce their fascist tyranny; history shows that all forms of government like the one that is trying to hijack our country is evil and will end up violent regardless if the people try to be non-violent and get along with them. So, we have no choice but to resist it in everyway possible even if some of us have to die doing it. Some or alot of us will die anyway under this type of government. I know all true patriots believe as Patrick Henry said "give me liberty or give me death"!!!

Democrat Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey sponsored Senate Bill 34 Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2011. It gives the Attorney General, currently the biased Eric Holder the authority to deny the sale or distribution of firearms or explosives to individuals whom the Attorney General has determined to be engaged in terrorist activities. Who in Eric Holder’s mind may these people be? Could it be Tea Party Patriots? According to the article they could be.

I take great pride in describing myself as a Tea Party Patroit, and to those who would label me as a radical, i say horse feathers!There are those on the extreme left that would want me to go away, but, that is'nt likely to happen. I have marched for liberty's sake alongside democrats, republicans, and libertarians alike, and proud of that fact.I want, and demand honest people in government, who represent our citizens and our country and abide by our constitution, not trample on it like what is happening now by the likes of President Obama and Justice Ginsburg. We the people recognize that our Congress and Senate are corrupted heads of our government, and the only way to see this corruption is halted, is to vote them out, and that is exactly what will happen in this next election, and years to come.Citizens are not going to sit idly by and let our country fall into the hands of socialist dictators, who for their gain, would try to change our freedoms, and our way of life that has made us the most prosperous nation on earth for over 200 years. How dare Mr. Obama appologize for the USA!

The Tea Party is "laying in wait" for the right time to petition our leaders to do what they know in their hearts and minds is right thing for America, and we are well aware that there are such leaders already in our branches of government that are slowly stepping forward, but greater efforts are needed to crunch and destroy the socialist agenda of the Obama administration.