WOW, you guys are beginning to scare me. So it would seem that you woill at some time use force to make us all follow along you route towards a forceful overthrough of all "our democracy" because you thing guns rights are more important that people freedom to live as they like, without fear of a paranoid force of "faith filled" but not trustful clods?

Now, isn't it just like that naked Marxist barry soetoro to start an illegal and unconstitutional war to oust Libya's head of state while at the same time working behind the scenes to destroy US citizens' freedoms and right to bear arms.

Don't expect the military to stand behind their oath to implement the constitution. The military milktoast brass is all too eager to follow unlawful orders. They have displaced their loyalty to their renegade Communist-in-Chief.

And don't expect congress to preserve our rights. They intend to do absolutely nothing but warm their chairs until they get re-elected.

Once guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns.

During WWII there was a term called, "Polish Gardens." These were weapons covered in cosmoline or other preservatives and buried in gardens to keep them from the Nazis. Schedule 40, six inch PVC pipe, with end caps and dessicant will accomplish the same goal, if necessary. Keep old nuts, bolts, washers, and other metals to scatter around to defie metal detectors. Let them try to find 80,000,000 weapons.

Hey Neal - the ONLY reason you still have any freedom left at all is because the government doesn't own all the guns. But give it time. You'll get it soon enough when you're FORCED to live like the people in Iran or Venezuela. Why don't you go for visit now? A long one.

Our right to keep and bear arms is not only to protect ourselves from harm but is the last line of defense when it comes to a tyranical government.

The left is hell-bent on removing our guns because they don't like them. Get over yourselves! Your opinion will not be forced upon me.

As for me, I'm going to buy a gun every other week until I can't.

I expect that unlike Britain, Australia, German, etc., any attempt to take weapons away from lawful owners in the United States is likely to be greeted with a much different response from simply handing them over. Time will tell.

During the last two years, time and again we have seen this administration completely ignore the rule of law. I have no doubt that Obama and his ilk would love to forceably disarm Americans under some pretense to make the point that are 'the law', and that they alone can decide what rights we are entitled to have and under what conditions/restructions we are allowed to have them.

If they want my rifle, they can (in the words of the Texans at the battle of Gonzales) "come and take it". The line has been drawn, and we've had enough. I would rather see my own life and that of my family end than see any us us live as subjects ruled by those who are lawless. We will not submit. It it costs us our lives, then that is the price we will pay. May the Lord guide us through the perilous times in which we live.

It seems to hopefully be the intent of the T-PARTY to not let the crisis impuned upon this Republic by the leftist/ rino regime in power (which they relish) to go to waste as well. We shall overcome these fear mongering socio-coms and their dismantelling of the Constitution God willing. I am willing. God builds nations and He pulls them down.

We have the gumMINT we deserve. My prayer is we soon are granted the one we need.

The Obama administration has set the precedent in Libya to bring the UN forces into the front of any uprising, to include the United States when patriots here are forced to re-acquire the Rule of Law and defend their oaths to the United States Constitution.

At the end of every leftists rainbow is a mass grave.

History is full of such examples. This one would be no different.

The greatest hurdle to saving this country from the SOB in the White House is going to be sufficient organization of feet on the ground with palladium in hand to stop the problem and remove its source.

It is not the will that is lacking; it is the plan.

My daughter's father-in-law is from Cuba. He escaped to Spain right before Castro took control of the country. When Castro implemeted the 'take over' of gun control and left the people defenseless he knew that it was time to leave. He has also stated several times that from the first speech he heard B. Hussein Obama give, he marked him as a communist, God help us All!!

If he has the 'nads', let Barry Hussein Soetoro come to my house by himself and try to take my gun.

Neal, Does this "SCARE" you????

James Madison's appointee to the Supreme Court, Justice Joseph Story, wrote in his 1833 "Commentaries on the Constitution," "The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."

How about this, Does this "SCARE" you???

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their DUTY, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." Declaration of Independence.

I don't know where you'll hide, but you haven't been paying attention. Maybe, Canada will take you. They took the "draft-dodgers" during the Vietnam era.

But Patriotic Americans answer the Call of the Country, they are not cowards and Perhaps, you need to read Patrick Henry's, "Liberty or Death Speech", you maybe, educated but you have NO Patriotism.

For God & Country

The American

Neal - we are not a democracy but a Republic, check Article 4 Section 4. In a democracy 51% of the people can vote to kill the remaining 49% and it is all democratically done. Also remember Adolph was democratically elected.

As for the Patriot Act it was Bush who pushed it through. Now the Republican Leadership (still an oxymoron) is refusing to repeal it. A good way to save money is not fund the Jack Booted Thugs (AKA ATF). If you want to know more about the ATF go to Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership JPF.ORG. It also has a list of the various genocides and the gun laws that made it possible.

THIS IS THE SAME GUY THAT SOLD GUNS TO DRUG LORD IN MEX.TO KILL OUR BORDER GUARDS THATS TREASON IN MY EYES BUT THIS WONT HAPPEN HE HOLDS THE KEYS TO 0UR JUSTICE SYSTEM ALSO !!!

Oops that is JPFO.ORG

I was reading about Vermont this morning and a law that is being introduced on the other spectrum. They will fine each resident of Vermont $500 per year if they do not own a gun. For defensive purposes if called on by the State.

Now correct me if I am wrong(and I hope to be corrected), but I thought Vermont was a Liberal state. Were they not the state that wanted to secede when 41 was running the show?

I applaud the Vermont Senator, and what are they going to do if Obama is successful in his plot to disarm America.

Obama knows he has to disarm America before he can complete his quest of being the Supreme Leader of the World. the Messiah. And Armed citizens of America are the only thing standing in his way.

Let's vote or Impeach him out of office before this happens.

I guess I don't understand America any longer. Why are we just sitting by and letting this happen to us? Why aren't we out in the streets, on the internet, and standing in front of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue fighting to keep our freedom?

Why are we letting all those lives lost in our Revolutionary war being lost in vein? They will be if we let this happen to us. And why would the so called President of the Greatest country the world has ever seen or will see, not want to protect his country at the borders?? the only reason I can see is that he must not be American after all. The Patriotism and Love I have for this country will not die, and I am passionate about keeping her freedom, for this is all She knows.

but then again, I might be way off base on my thinking and this all could just be a dream.. If that be the case, will someone please, please wake me up now, because I, for one, am scared for my life and worse yet, my freedom.

May God save these Great United States of America and all of her Patriots and citizens

Their attempt to take away the Right to own guns does not surprise me at all. They have been trying to do it for many years. They keep chipping it away a little at a time. Guns are not the only thing they are taking away. If things keep going with their GLOBAL warming agenda, we will be a nation of people living in tents and riding horses again. But wait, we will not have guns to live off of the land, but there is always the bow & arrow. Is everyone ready to become a member of a third world country or worse.

I am a Christian and a Patriot. I will gladly give my life for my God and my Country. But if they come for my guns I will gladly give them up. ONE BULLET AT A TIME. I will take someone with me.

One thing missing from this article is that Agent Terry had been ordered into the field that night, armed with a Bean Bag Gun, to face "Gunwalkers" with fully automatic weapons. I believe this was reported by both David Codea (National Gun Examiner), and, Mike Vanderbeogh (of the "Sipsey Street Irregulars" website).

A few excerpts from the Secretary’s (Vilsack) Cultural Transformation report. Note the definition of “conforming.”

The underutilization of POCs and Euro-American women,

as groups, is due to traditional leadership support systems that

are dominantly Eurocentric in terms of valuing, supporting, and

including workplace employees. That is, the more an employee

has in common with Eurocentric values in terms of workstyle, the

more he or she experiences inclusion and support. The more

employees experience exclusion, the greater the tendency is to

simply adapt by conforming. Conforming is the endless process of

attempting to think and behave in ways that are unnatural in

order to achieve the expected norms of the organization.

Most U.S. organizations are significantly multicultural in

terms of composition, but dominantly Eurocentric in terms of their

operation. That is, they value and reward more:

• individualism more than teamwork

• task orientation more than relationship orientation

• position more than performance

• the end (goal) more than the means (process)

• competition more than cooperation

The new (and present) entrants into today’s organizations

expect a culture where their values are an inclusive part of the

culture. Most of them were educated in an integrated system of

experience. The objective is to create an integrated culture that is

representative of an organization’s entire employee and customer

base.

Most value systems in Western-oriented cultures are

Eurocentric. That is, they are dominantly individually and task

oriented. Whereas, the U.S. workforce has already exceeded by

one-third non-Eurocentric workers (and a majority of women) who

are naturally group and relationship oriented. The population of

POCs has already exceeded one-third of the U.S. population (as of

May 2006) and will probably approach 40 percent by the year

2015.

The result is that it is not possible to fully tap the potential

of POCs, as well as a majority of women, with a historically one25

dimensional Eurocentric system of operation. In fact, until the

early 2000s, Eurocentrism was a way of operating that

systematically excluded most of these populations from any

significant advancement.

Mark,

You may want to mention the fact that David Codrea http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/david-codrea and Mike Vanderboegh http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com

were the ones to make the world take notice of what has been dubbed Project Gun Walker.

Why stop with FDR in your column for Thursday 31 March 2011? Keep on going right back to Abraham Lincoln.

Try one of Walter Williams' columns from 16 July 2008: It was the "2nd War of Independence" in 1860, NOT a "civil" war... according to the definition of "civil war". Mr. Lincoln SHREDDED the Constitution.

This has been said before but we need to remember it.

(FROM MY COLD DEAD HAND)!

I am a paart time poloice officer in Northern Alabama and as a matter of department policy our chief informed every officer in his department that we WILL NOT enforce uncontitutional laws such as gun confiscation and that the town council supports his policy. Police officer friemds in other departments tell me that not only will they not enforce gun confiscation laws, they will resiet any feds sent in to try. In the words of one officer regarding the feds, "They'll just f--ing disappear!"

I'M 70 YEARS OLD AND HAVE SEVERAL GUNS. SOME SINCE CHILDHOOD.

I'M WITH MR. CHARLES CUTSHAW FROM ALABAMA.

Don't worry Neal, Obama is not going to harm a single hair on the head of his sycophantic LGBT coterie of sissies.You are safe. but you do not want to be in my sights when the going gets tough. Just lie down, curl up and sob.

Od course 0bama wants to arm the rebels in Libya. They are 1. Anti-US and 2. Muslim. either factor would propel him into their cause, both means the transfer is already taking take.

Obama's current strategy:

1. Turn every law-abiding, gun-owning citizen into a criminal.

2. Release criminals currently incarcerated in order to free the room to the aforementioned law-abiding, gun-owning citizens.

3. Arm Libyan "opposition."

4. Allow Islamic terrorist to win in Libya.

5. Newly armed Libyan Islamists begin to attack US interest.

Yep, nice move Barry.

It is my belief that the current administration is doing its best to make the USA into a third world country, or worse

Gun control? Good luck with that! I seriously doubt if there's very many Americans who'll putup with such nonsense. They'll "control" my gun(s)

after they pry them (emptied) from my cold dead hands. There better be a bunch of them because the first six are going to get hurt!

The whole Libya thing is about national soverignty pure and simple. UN can take control of a country as it wishes then they can also do this in any country including ours. so imagine, un guy kicks your door(they have the "right") demands everything, cars tvs, computers cellphones, books and guns.....their reason...because no one on the earth has a right to non interference from govt types. Guns are the only thing that protects, well a few knives homemade spears and such which will not stand up toe real weapons. Time to kick butt, and run them out of office and out of the country...Iran should do well for them, if not might i sugges Pitcairn Island, or Devils island?

overt political machinations. These include legislation written and promoted by Leftist groups such as the American Bar Association, Physicians for Social Responsibility, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, the Violence Policy Center, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, and the Brady Campaign

It is exactly these overt political machinations, that you called them, Leftist groups such as the American Bar Association, Physicians for Social Responsibility, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, the Violence Policy Center, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, and the Brady Campaign that prevent more murders from occuring. Remember, guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people. Just the names of these groups imply the moral thing to do. In your warped sense of reponsiblity the more guns the better.

If you are going to call someone a "Socialist" you should at least know what Socialism stands for. You evidently have no clue.

Mr. Timmerman:According to Dictionary.com ...

so·cial·ism –noun

1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

The ONLY WAY socialism works is through confiscation and redistribution of all wealth BY FORCE. Although leftists have been working on incrementally stealing everything from us for years, it will only be finally and fully accomplished when the public is disarmed.

You are either part of the solution or the problem. You decide. Most of us here already have.

Molôn Labé! (Come and take them) ~ Leonidas, at the Pass of Thermopylae 480 B.C.

Jim Timmerman - In Nazi Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, etc. it was the governments that did the killings. If the people had firearms Adolph, Mao, Stalin, etc. could not have killed millions. Freemen own guns, slaves do not. Checkout Jews For the Preservation of Firearms (JPFO.ORG) to see what anti-gun laws enabled the dictators to do. This says it best, "God created man, Winchester made them equal."

No doubt, one factor that caused USSR and Warsaw Pact to think twice was the fact that citizens in the USA is the most formidably well armed in the history of the world. Additionally, communists know they will not conquer USA

Communists can not conquer USA through force without severe cost to selves. Consequently, their ilk must convince majority that 2A must be repealed, restricted or otherwise rendered impotent. This techniques has been done before with frightening consequences (NAZI Germany).

The entire matter is too easy to understand: If (when) we can not defend against criminals, then criminals will rule. Any who think otherwise must be stuck on the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.

"God created men, Winchester made them equal." Well said, a lot of truth there. And, thank you, Ruth Ann Wilson. Well said!

Fellow in the Japanese Navy,in response to an exclamation of joy from a lesser sailor over the event of Pearl Harbor,"I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant." Admiral Yamamoto was absolutely correct. Took awhile. The question now; What will it take to awaken that sleeping giant, the Republican majority in the House of Representatives? All the ranting, the "investigations and inquiries" are for naught! The dominating concept should be the removal of this man from the White House. And all of his appointees and hires. He is illegal, they are illegal. The Democrat Party has demonstrated that it, too, pursues illegal endeavors. Wake up, Republicans! I will write yet another letter to John Boehner. Maybe he will stir the giant. Let us pray.

How about this one,USN? One of the objections, the overriding objection, to invading America at the West coast, by Japanese forces; the realization that many, if not most, Americans have a firearm. And, are well qualified to use it accurately! The one effort, a Japanese submarine, apparently surfaced, and apparently the "Skipper" decided that mass hari-kari and the loss of a valuable vessel was not worth the effort. More to it than that, but the essence of the notion is correct. First tenet of Marxist theory of control; disarm the populace. Which is exactly why the Founders specifically stated, and implemented, the words that will prevent that. The storm is rising. The populace tires of the tyranny of this government. We are called to replace it.

I shot my first handgun at age 8 in 1967. I look back not with nostalgia,but with pride thinking now what a truly unique American experience that was. I knew nothing of the legacy that our Forefathers fought and died for. Over the years I have learned of that legacy and the price we pay every day for that legacy. I will never sacrifice my guns to an illegitimate government, because a legitimate government of America, would never ask or lead insidius plots to disarm us. Firearm ownership is a right and a responsibility. If you cannot or do not want it, please leave mine alone.

USN, Ret - Wake up, Republicans! I will write yet another letter to John Boehner. Maybe he will stir the giant. Let us pray.

I don't think so, Boehner is part of the problem, he is a RINO. He has already said he will not bring up the issue of BHO's birth certificate. In the continuing budget resolution he would not end funding for the jack booted thugs (AKA ATF).

Let's see...

There are 30,000+ gun laws in force in this Nation -- some 600 per State -- with more being enacted every week.

Background checks are mandated for every firearm purchase made through federally-licensed dealers.

Every purchaser of a firearm must fill out federal Form 4473 which contains 14 questions which must be answered truthfully. Filling our that Form incorrectly or falsifying information is a federal felony. The 14 questions range from citizenship to mental history to domestic violence.

No one under the age of 21 may possess a handgun. Only citizens of a particular State are permitted to buy a handgun from that State.

A felon is prohibited from owning a firearm or any bullets. Each count could net him 5 years. Having a pistol in his possession with 10 bullets in the clip requires a 55 year sentence.

Automatic weapons -- "assault weapons" -- have been outlawed for civilian ownership since 1934.

Every State has enacted prohibitions against people carrying firearms to certain venues, including political gatherings, airports, churches, schools, government buildings, and more.

Every State has enacted prohibitions against murder, ADW, assault.

Over two million times each year, civilian gun owners interdict crimes in progress, most often without firing a shot. A determined citizen, willing to use his or her firearm is usually enough tpo deter the perpetrator.

The Second Amendment reads, in part, "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

Since 1963, Libbies seem to have forgotten how to read plain English.

Now, tell me, please, which of those more than 30,000 laws has ever prevented any crime?

Rifleman - take it a step further, gun laws allow crime. WHAT laws allow crime? At Fort Hood as at all military bases you can't carry a loaded firearm. It really stopped the muslim nut case. At Virgina Tech as at most schools and colleges you can't carry a firearm. It really stopped the nut case. What would have been the outcome in these two cases if someone was armed? Then there is the Virgina law school where two people ran to their vehicles and retrieved a firearm and stopped the madmen. I am surprised some idiot prosecutor didn't charge the two individuals for having a gun. Oops I apologize for insulting nut cases and madmen.

Howard Last; thanks. You are correct, and I knew that.I had some hope that enough prodding might stir a Republican impulse in those RINO breasts. I believe there is no such thing as a 'moderate' Democrat. Or a Republican in that genre, either. Folks like Brown (Mass.) who are elected as Republicans, and act as Democrats are inimical to this Republic. You know that, pardon my mention. Maybe the new head of the NRC? Thanks for the response. As to Mr. Timmerman;

Mark--truly sensitive to your feelings about dark places with uncertain destination. Same feeling about barbed wire. Thank you for your response to Timmerman. And the others, too. That first one is a real lulu!

I just received my retirement pay stub, where that (better not say it) who said he was going to save me all that money, took another $30 monthly for himself.

civil war is coming, and I doubt there will be 2012 elections...there will be some 'crisis' to impliment Ex Order 11490 and start martial law...the Communists will not give up power willingly

Time for more ammunition. Maybe even another AR-15. And let's not forget training. It is my right to have firearms, and my responsibility to use them properly. I go out to FrontSight in Nevada twice a year and would suggest that anyone interested in improving their skills and gaining a clear understanding if the legal use use of firearms - should consider a visit. My wife and kids have been there as well. I am sure that puts me on some government list - but if you haven't already noticed, we are ALL on the government list.

As far as the Rhinos -- it will take more than one election cycle to get rid of all the democrats, leftists and the Rhinos. We had a good start in November but the next time around we must take care of the clean-up. If Conservatives take over the Republican party in the primaries - we can beat the left in the general election. If we allow a third party conservative to split us, we will lose and the US as a free country will have been destroyed by greed and lust for power.

And Timmerman -- The groups you mention only deal with law abiding citizens that they can attempt to bully-- they are afraid of the criminals who will kill them on sight. As a Socially Responsible Physician ( not a member of that club ) myself, I have seen - and cared for -hundreds of victims of

gun crimes. While some were criminals themselves - none of them would have been protected by another gun law, or the confiscation of guns from law abiding citizens. If you think those groups will come to your aid - you are mistaken. My suggestion is to get a gun and learn to use it properly.

Mr. Alexander, this is a good, although somewhat cursory, explanation of the Gun Runner/Gun Walker scandal, and I thank you for it.

However, I wish you would have given credit, where it is most richly due, and directed your readers to Mike Vanderbeough at http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/, and David Codrea at www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/david-codrea, without whose patriotic courage and intelligent and determined efforts this matter would likely have remained hidden.

Either one of these sites can provide practically a moment by moment time line of revelations and events leading to this story coming, apparently reluctantly, to the attention of Senator Grassley and Representative Issa, and garnering the likewise foot dragging notice of the MSM and some of the more widely read web sites.

This is a scandal which, due to the deaths of innocent Mexicans and at least two federal agents is vastly more important than the mere pecadillos of Watergate. That it reaches to the highest levels of Main Justice, the State Department and the White House is all but a certainty.

I urge you to pound on the pulpit on this one. Broadly understood by the American people, it has the potential to accomplish what a mere election may not.

Thank you for all you do. Yours for Liberty,

Jon

It should be of great concern to all to realize that the repeated references to “from my cold dead hands” may yet prove to be words of action. (booby trap the weapons and we can still be effective when no longer able to pull the trigger) . Is there that much difference in principle between Qaddafi’s iron hand, and BHO’s authoritarian, unilateral, and ever expanding exercise of power? Since the precedent is now established, if we get violent, the UN can provide assistance by sanctioning the use of force on our behalf for humanitarian purposes. Certainly North Korea, and Iran would be happy to participate.

Does anyone honestly think that a heavily armed Federal Government force, which used Ft. Hood US Army tanks in Waco to incinerate women & kids in order to "protect them from alleged child abuse" would hesitate to do the same to an unarmed populace? The only difference between this bunch in DC and Qaddafi are the social constraints placed on elected officials, and the knowledge that some of them will be called to answer for their depradations by an armed populace. We are enforcing our oath to "protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic." while they ignore the rule of law and pay off their cronies with borrowed money and stolen taxes. It will come to a head, I pray that it is peaceably, but will follow Patrick Henry's oration if otherwise. Sic Semper Tyrannis!

USN,Ret. With guys like Boehner as “leaders”, come 2012, the GOP is going to be able to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Don't believe American citizens will ever need firearms to defend their liberties against immoral usurpers? Look up Athens, TN and learn what modern history teaches us about defending our rights.

I am sorry to see the editors resorting to ad hominem retorts.

That being said, the Presidents disdain of the rule of law and the Constitutional Oath he took is well known. Thanks for the heads up on his continuing destruction of the American rights.

I too am accumulating guns and ammo in a small way. If nothing else I can pass them on to my sons. Regarding new laws by maybe well intentioned but the ignorant; gun magazines that can hold 11 to 30 rounds are required and specified by military and police forces. If they need them, then so do I.

Wonderful read, hopefully the gubmint won't try to take my arms, if so, all I can say is go for it.

Mike Dean:

One thing is certain Mike. There is no such entity as "gun crime". That term is only useful to mislead or deceive. Crime is crime, no matter what sort of inanimate instrument is used to facilitate it.

For what it's worth your statement: "...we will continue to see 'gun crime' increase each year."

is patently false.

The left in our nation is most certainly attempting to disarm the general public through whatever means they can bring to bear.

As for "common sense", the Second Amendment and its enumeration of our right to keep(it's mine,you can't have it)and bear(got it right here)arms is about as common sense as it gets.

Why should all citizens be deprived of their right to arms because some misuse them?

Perhaps "the main problem with this country" is the refusal of folks such as yourself to examine any problem without the fear of inanimate objects over-riding "common sense".

Mike Dean,

Common sense gun laws usually aren't, and guns don't cause crime.

If you don't believe the US government isn't trying to take guns away, then you aren't paying attention.

Actually, we don't have a major problem with gun crime...we have a major problem with criminals who use guns, a problem, you should know, which has been decreasing for several years now.

Ted Nugent made a cogent observation applicable to most guns and their owners...if guns cause crime, mine must be defective.

What other countries do is of no concern to me, as an American citizen. In Britain, gun crime, property crime and assaults are commonplace...one does not read of citizens defending themselves against assault using a gun...because they cannot. And they die, or are maimed.

Most people who read the Patriot Post know better than to swallow the bilge water from trolls...like yourself. May your chains rest lightly upon you.

Mike Dean,

Please pay attention to what is going on around you. There are so many gun laws, in the hundreds of thousands on the federal and state levels most of which incourage criminal intent. I agree with Dante and Doug Graham.

When I hear a politician or other person use the phrase common sense gun laws, it makes me wonder if they have ever had any experience with firearms what so ever. By your comment I wonder if you have any real knowledge of Firearms. Most people that have no experience with fire arms are generally scared and skeptical. This is due to mainstream media and no pratical hands on experience. I have owned firearms for 42 years and mine has yet to commit a crime.

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There is not one scientific study that any gun control law prevented crime. Criminals don't obey them and the law abding do. Gun free zones are a killers dream. Virginia Tech, Columbine, post offices, etc. Gun control laws make defenseless victims. Thus taking more llives than they save. The left wants more gun free zones or more killing zones.

I have said this before to many and will continue saying it until my dying day - "Guns, of themselves, do not kill people, but criminals and deranged people with guns kill people." Gun control, that is confiscating all weapons owned by gun owners and hunters in the US, doesn't mean gun violence will stop, because all the criminals will still have guns. One of the first things the Nazis did when they came to power was take up all the privately owned guns in the country. No one was then able to defend themselves or their families from the SA and other scum roaming the streets. Put all those who want to ban guns from America in a place where they can't own guns, and open the doors to all the baddies, and see who screams loudest. I'm sorry about what happened to Brady, that is sad and tragic, but the man who attacked President Reagan was deranged. There are nut cases like this in society and we cannot prevent that by banning guns from those who aren't deranged. A ban on all handguns would not have prevented what Happened at Ft. Hood, or the shooting of Rep. Giffords. Removing the guns will solve nothing, the problems will still be there, but some politically incorrect profiling might go a long way to deterring this sort of thing.

I am sooooo ashamed of this president (illegal as I believe he is)and this govt, senators, Congress and so many others. They ought to be ashamed of themselves but....they will not be ashamed or even consider that they need to change. They are bought and sold to the highest bidder! I only know or have know of a few that anything worth anything!!

Come get my guns...you may not like how you receive them...nuff said.

They can have my guns, but they have to take the bullets first. "FROM MY COLD,DEAD HANDS!"

Mike Dean, please be aware that when you compare another nation to the good ole US of A you are comparing one foreign country with one set of gun laws to 50 states forming a union with a set of federal laws and 50 states with individual laws. When you compare all 50 states in that context, our numbers come up higher(and not by much). When you break them down state by state you get a totally different picture. You see the liberal states like New York and California have higher gun crimes as you like to call em. Other states have lower. Now when you compare states individualy against for instance the UK, those with laws more in linesmen the constitution have a lower rate of gun crimes and states like New York have an even higher rate of gun crime.

Following your logic of common sense the sensible thing to do is abolish all gun laws.

Yes Mike Dean, you are correct. YOU sir, are also at the furthest end away from same.

This is simple ; guns do not cause crime. Immoral creatures [note I do not say "people"] commit crime. Crime is a violation of law. it is already illegal to, say for instance, murder another. So, if an individual is going to murder, does another "law" keep them from it? of course not. BUT, the intended victim being armed...THAT can, will most often and does , thousands of times a year.

The ONLY thing slowing this "government" down from an immediate and complete institution of bolshevik totalitarianism is the armed populace. Don't believe me? just ask the Christian caucasians of russia circa 1917 ; oh hold it, some 20 million of them were murdered. Kinda hard to hold a conversation. OK, well, talk to the red chinese around in '48-52. Nope, some 50 million of them are gone too. Well, how about the...Awww, never mind, you wouldn't listen anyway.

before i read Mr. Alexander's essay and subsequent comments as someone who doesn't own a firearm i really did't think gun ownership was that big of a problem, useles but not a problem. Now after reading the pschychotic reactions off the red blooded gun owner i' m thinking of buying a machinegun to protect myself from obviously unstable gun owners

Why is it when the Patriot Post includes the wording of the Second Amendment in an article you insist on leaving out two of the commas? As written on the Bill of Rights, the Second Amendment reads as such:

"A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a Free State, the right of the People to Keep and Bear arms, shall not be infringed."

I have changed my view slightly to accept that the founders did indeed intend for all (meaning all those who were considered citizens back then) people to be able to keep and bear arms but back then all men were also intended to be a member of the Militia, a situation that does not exist today.

Written as it was, in the King's English, the actual intent of the amendment is clear. As my 7th grade English teacher taught us, to determine the intent of a KE statement, remove all words between the first and last commas.

Thus for the Second Amendmment, it INTENDS: "A well-regulated Militia...shall not be infringed."

Granted all men, indeed, all citizens were expected to be members of the Militia back then, so the statement as written makes sense for that period. It makes less sense today. Do you think the founders would have insisted that people like White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis should have access to guns? I think not. But when the Constitution and it's attendant Bill of Rights were written, there were no such things.

But all this is argument. My original question stands; why do you leave out the commas?

As a retired LEO I agree with the comments made from Alabama. I believe in the right to bear arms by every law abiding citizen and know that officers here would not enforce Federal Laws that are designed to take away our right to own arms. I can assure you that criminals will not be deterred by any FEDERAL LAWS and will continue to posess guns.

The focus on gun control should be aimed at those who commit crimes with guns , with severe and swift justice !

A few years ago, while serving in the US Army in Kosovo, in my Intelligence Battalion job, I saw the reports of how many Cordon and Search operations we were conducting, trying to rid the locals of their guns, in order to establish a Safe and Secure environment. Many of these raids came up with nothing or yielded only old rusty long guns and small batches of ammo. But, there were still reports of locals reporting gun caches in their villages, yet our troops could find little when they arrived. Once in awhile, we got lucky and found a few AK-47s or small batches of small arms ammo, and this was a big deal in the HQ, because these finds were rare. Once all the larger Military weapons, like Mortar tubes, were gathered, finding small arms was extremely difficult. This in a country with thousands of foreign troops and intelligence operatives looking for weapons daily, receiving reports from Human Intel collectors and translators and sending out heavily armed Troops to gather these caches. All in a region roughly the size of a Southeastern US state. And the searching did nothing to stop some unfortunate killings, or the Muslim tradition of indiscriminate weapons firing, often into the air, at the many Kosovar weddings during the summer months . Believe me, I heard them. All the searching did was galvanize the local populace to cache their weapons in safer places. The same is occurring today in Iraq, and you can know that our troops are not finding all the weapons.

Now try to imagine US agents, be they BATFE or FBI or whatever, trying to find weapon caches in the millions of US homes, businesses, backyards, farms, basements, fields or forests in the entire US. This is the scope of the problem for the Administration and their allies: They will NEVER get all the banned guns. If the US Military can’t do it in a zone of operations under strict traffic control, how will local and federal law enforcement ever do it in the entire US? Yet the anti-gun zealots believe they can outlaw lawfully owned firearms and we the people will just walk in and hand them over. For the children, Hillary, for the children.

Will Stanley:

The simple meaning of the Amendment is that the "Militia" should be "well regulated". If you have standing armies, and an unarmed populace, that wouldn't be a very "well regulated Militia", would it? Therefore, a "well regulated Militia" (by a similarly armed populace)is "necessary to the security of a free state". Without this "regulation", the state is at the mercy of the commander of the army...........

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