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Wednesday, March 17, 2010
The Foundation
"The legislative department is everywhere extending the sphere of its activity and drawing all power into its impetuous vortex." --James Madison, Federalist No. 48
Editorial Exegesis
Slaughter House Rules"We're not sure American schools teach civics any more, but once upon a time they taught that under the U.S. Constitution a bill had to pass both the House and Senate to become law. Until this week, that is, when Speaker Nancy Pelosi is moving to merely 'deem' that the House has passed the Senate health-care bill and then send it to President Obama to sign anyway. Under the 'reconciliation' process that began [Monday] afternoon, the House is supposed to approve the Senate's Christmas Eve bill and then use 'sidecar' amendments to fix the things it doesn't like. Those amendments would then go to the Senate under rules that would let Democrats pass them while avoiding the ordinary 60-vote threshold for passing major legislation. This alone is an abuse of traditional Senate process. But Mrs. Pelosi & Co. fear they lack the votes in the House to pass an identical Senate bill, even with the promise of these reconciliation fixes. House Members hate the thought of going on record voting for the Cornhusker kickback and other special-interest bribes that were added to get this mess through the Senate, as well as the new tax on high-cost insurance plans that Big Labor hates. So at the Speaker's command, New York Democrat Louise Slaughter, who chairs the House Rules Committee, may insert what's known as a 'self-executing rule,' also known as a 'hereby rule.' Under this amazing procedural ruse, the House would then vote only once on the reconciliation corrections, but not on the underlying Senate bill. If those reconciliation corrections pass, the self-executing rule would say that the Senate bill is presumptively approved by the House -- even without a formal up-or-down vote on the actual words of the Senate bill. Democrats would thus send the Senate bill to President Obama for his signature even as they claimed to oppose the same Senate bill. They would be declaring themselves to be for and against the Senate bill in the same vote. Even John Kerry never went that far with his Iraq war machinations. ... This two-votes-in-one gambit is a brazen affront to the plain language of the Constitution, which is intended to require democratic accountability. Article 1, Section 7 of the Constitution says that in order for a 'Bill' to 'become a Law,' it 'shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate.' This is why the House and Senate typically have a conference committee to work out differences in what each body passes. ... If Congress can now decide that the House can vote for one bill and the Senate can vote for another, and the final result can be some arbitrary hybrid, then we have abandoned one of [James] Madison's core checks and balances." --The Wall Street Journal
Upright
"It speaks to the sturdiness of the system our founders installed that it is, as intended, so resistant to passing major legal and cultural changes against the overwhelming will of the public. So resistant that, in frustration, the Democratic speaker of the House has been driven to consider breaking her oath of office and violate the Constitution in order to get her way." --columnist Tony Blankley
"The debate over health care reform has been messy and often chaotic, but here we are a year later and Barack Obama and his radical agenda might yet win. If it does, he will have put in place the structure for taking over everything else." --Washington Times editor emeritus Wesley Pruden
"Though the two issues may seem utterly unrelated, they do have this in common -- both health care and higher education are realms of American life in which government has undermined the operation of market forces and caused artificially high prices. These are two arenas in which the Democrats now propose to do exactly the wrong thing. Their reform reinforces old errors and will infinitely compound the problem of rising prices." --columnist Mona Charen
"In his book 'Dreams From My Father' Obama gives the distinct impression that his gifts are too great for the smallness of our political stage. He regrets not having been born during the civil rights era when the grandness of the cause would have measured up to the grandness of his ambition. He is in search of something big that will allow him to make his mark on the world as Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King did. Hence, the defeat of ObamaCare would not just be par for the course in the rough-and-tumble world of politics for him. It would be sign of his ordinariness, his mortality, and that, to him, is unendurable." --Forbes columnist Shikha Dalmia

Insight
"A fanatic is a person who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." --former England Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
"There can be no prescription old enough to supersede the Law of Nature and the grant of God Almighty, who has given to all men a natural right to be free, and they have it ordinarily in their power to make themselves so, if they please." --American lawyer and patriot James Otis (1725-1783)
Dezinformatsia
Advocacy journalism: "Bottom line, what happens if you don't get health care for this president? This is really all-or-nothing for the sense of his power, for his legacy. He's invested so much in this in this first year. You've got to get this for him!" --NBC's Andrea Mitchell to Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD)
"Why not be part of the process? Why not take what you consider to be an imperfect [health care] bill and at least attach some proposals that you support? ... How are we going to fix Congress and empower Congress to be able to pass the sweeping kinds of changes that we need in the country?" --ABC's Elizabeth Vargas interrogating Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Kamikaze Democrats: "Democrats will lose their seats over process, but they will take the chance because of the substance." --ABC's Cokie Roberts on health care
What happened to dissent being patriotic? "[I]t might take more than arm-twisting with some of the Democrats who voted against [health care] the first time around. It may take waterboarding or something of that nature..." --CBS's Bob Schieffer
Nonsense: "I've never seen the Republican Party so narrow in its appeal. It's basically come out and said, 'Dis-invest in America, watch your pocketbook. Don't do anything, don't have any government.' It's forgotten eight years of sort of spendthrift behavior by President Bush. ... What do you make of the fact the Republican Party now isn't a party of grand conservatism, any more? It's a party of this narrow, little, nasty, don't do anything party." --MSNBC's Chris Matthews
Newspulper Headlines:
Stop Talking or He'll Never Shut Up: "Barack Obama: The Time for Talk Is Over on Health Reform" --InTheNews.co.uk ++ "Obama to Ohio Monday for Another Health Care Speech" --Chicago Sun-Times Web site
We Blame Global Warming: "Obama's Health Bill Push Heats Up" --Associated Press
Where's Eric Massa When You Need Him?: "Dodd Faces 'Ticklish Position' Going Alone on Financial Rules" --Bloomberg
Questions Nobody Is Asking: "Men: Will You Sit and Pee for the Planet's Sake?" --Houston Chronicle Web site
Everything Seemingly Is Spinning Out of Control: "Earth Under Attack From Death Star" --Sun (London)
Bottom Stories of the Day: "Palestinians Threaten to Halt Peace Talks" --Associated Press
(Thanks to The Wall Street Journal's James Taranto)
The Demo-gogues
Just words, just politics ... just the Constitution: "We have debated this issue now for more than a year. Every proposal has been put on the table. Every argument has been made. I know a lot of people view this as a partisan issue, but, look, the fact is both parties have a lot of areas where we agree -- it's just politics are getting in the way of actually getting it done." --Barack Obama
Arrogance: "The American people want to know if it's still possible for Washington to look out for their interests and their future. They are waiting for us to act. They are waiting for us to lead. And as long as I hold this office, I intend to provide that leadership. I don't know about the politics. But I know what's right." --Barack Obama (We're waiting for you to get out of the way so we can look out for our own interests, not have you do whatever you "know" is right whether we want it done to us or not.)
Big Brother: "You know what? It's been such a long time since we made government on the side of ordinary working folks, where we did something for them that relieved some of their struggles." --BO
Non Compos Mentis: "Well, a lot of those folks, your employer it's estimated would see premiums fall by as much as 3,000 percent [sic], which means they could give you a raise." --Barack Obama
Glass half empty: "I have no intention of not passing this bill. Let me say it in a positive way: I have faith in my members that we will be passing this legislation." --House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
She may be a dreamer: "Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance." --Nancy Pelosi (So the rest of us can pay for these unemployed artists and photographers to have insurance?)
Democrats to defeat death! "Today, 70 Americans will die for lack of health insurance, 70." --Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) (So why don't most provisions in this bill kick in for four years?)
Village Idiots
Never mind the cost: "Senator Brown comes from a state that has a health care plan that's similar to the one we're trying to enact here. We're just trying to give the rest of America the same opportunities that the people of Massachusetts have." --White House adviser David Axelrod
Shut up, she explained: "[I]nstead of spending your energy attacking the parts of the president's [health care] proposal you don't like, you can use it to strengthen the parts you do." --Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius
He blames global warming: "The odds have shifted toward much larger downpours. And we have seen that happen in the Northeast, we've seen it happen in the Northwest -- in both of those regions are among those that scientists have predicted for a long time would begin to experience much larger downpours." --Al Gore
Hollywood chimes in: "I think the people running climate change denial campaigns are sociopaths." --actress Lucy Lawless, a.k.a. "Xena: Warrior Princess"
Short Cuts
"House Democrats conjured a strategy Monday that would allow the House to avoid a vote on the health care bill. Instead they would deem the bill passed and send it to the president. We ordered Iraq not to look, this is for mature democracies only." --comedian Argus Hamilton
"Last year, the House was passing bills without reading them. This year, they're passing bills without voting on them." --former House Speaker Newt Gingrich
"What kind of leader sends congressmen out on a kamikaze mission in an election year and right before a recess? The kind of leader whose followers are diminishing in number." --Human Events editor Jed Babbin
"Democrats, though, continue to close their eyes and cover their ears while loudly singing the la la song." --The Washington Times' Kerry Picket
"President Obama would like the House to vote on his health care plan on either St. Patrick's Day or the day after. That means Congress will be voting on health care either when they're drunk, or when they're hung over." --comedian Jay Leno
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Ray
The ‘Charmin’ Ms. Slaughter
Should the aptly named Ms. Slaughter
Pull off her Parliamentary Caper
And reduce the Constitution to
Congressional toilet paper
America would have no choice
But adopt this electoral tenet
Come this November we will… we shall !
Flush both House and Senate !!!
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:00:23 AM
HAMBONE
How? How can Pelosi and crew do this without being drug from the Capitol building and lynched?
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:16:56 AM
Luanne DeWitt
If this bill passes in the proposed manner, is there not a group of attorneys waiting to take it to the Supreme Court for violation of our Constitution?
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:24:18 AM
don
I am appaled and I morn the end of our nation. Remeber how beautiful Lebanon was or the Olympics in Sarajevo? We must remember this moment. This will truly be the day the music died and we become just like any other third world nation. And we allowed it to happen.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:24:26 AM
Spiff
Pres. Obama agenda for America reminds me of an old expression, "Any road is the right road if you don't know where you are going"...
Spiff
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:27:13 AM
Randal Schechter
Heil, Obama, Seig Hiel
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:27:48 AM
shedworld
Madam speaker Pelosi stated yesterday, concerning this legislative ruse known as "The Slaughter Rule", that why were the republicans protesting this so vehemently, especially since it was something they themselves used "hundreds of times." Is there anyone who can verify how this was used by republicans, according to Pelosi, so often by republicans in the past and in what context?
That statement needs to be verified.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:28:21 AM
Paul
Hey Prezz, it's the economy stupid! Get to work on Biden's three letter word, J-O-B-S
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:31:37 AM
B Lupinski
this ruse of passing the plan underspeculation that the house would have passed it anyway is such a sham on society, disguised as politics. This is an unconstitutional act by Pelosi, to implement this tax laden healthcare plan, which is going to do nothing to help healthcare, just impose their socialistic government rule. Its time Americans came forth, save your freedom now, for you will lose it to these thieves
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:33:11 AM
John
How far is too far? When will the silent majority realize that the current regime is, in fact, just that? I hope there is a peaceful way to throw off the yoke, but with our military being sucked into the structure of the UN, it's just a matter of time before we will have to decide if enough is enough, or do we bow down and take it? I wasn't born free to die as a slave.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:39:17 AM
Mike
A very short comment. We are all most aware of the problems that surround Obamacare and regardless, they will pass it. Now, we MUST concentrate on how to challenge its legality and how to repeal it. Tyrany comes in many forms.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:39:57 AM
Susan Hastings
Jay Leno might have a point that congress will be either drunk or hung over when they vote on this garbage. But the sad truth is that they are always drunk - with power. November, please come quickly.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:41:15 AM
Bud Nelson
I curse the presidencies of Lyndon Johnson and Jimmy Carter for this landslide of big government now threatening to take over every facet of our lives. If we don't "stand up" in November we are done!
Posted March 17, 2010 at 11:45:07 AM
Floyd Burney
Ben Franklin was right "We have a Republic...if you can keep it !!" And the left wonders why there are Tea Parties ?
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:01:03 PM
Bernard P. Giroux
Read the Boston Globe today about Tim Cahill's comments on MA healthcare and why he is against Obamacare.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:01:26 PM
G. E. Gramer
While the indignation is righteously being expressed about the banana republic politics we are watching, don't go to sleep on the other "takeover" the Left has imbued into this bill - the takeover of the college student loan business (out of the private sector and into the fire!).
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:01:51 PM
Al Price
With the threat of fines for not filling out all the questions on the census, I hope their will be some legal groups that will file class action suits for those of us that only revealed how many people live in the residence and checked the "other" box and wrote in "AMERICAN".
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:03:07 PM
Rick left coast right winger
"Well, a lot of those folks, your employer it's estimated would see premiums fall by as much as 3,000 percent [sic], which means they could give you a raise." --Barack Obama
So let me get this straight. My employer pays $400 every two week pay period for my health insurance. According to BO, a 3,000% reduction would equate to a negative $1,200,000, every two weeks. This means that my employer would not just get healthcare for free, he would be paid a load of cash for having a policy.
Raise? Forget the raise, I think I'll just retire.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:05:39 PM
Harold (Wyatt)
If they get away with giving this bill to BO without voting on it, then this country will no longer be goverened as it was when started by our Founding Fathers. I think with this, it is beginning to look like we are headed for something close to a dictatorship. Just think, what BO wants, BO gets, without Congress even voting on it. Government for the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE was done away with a year ago, so now they work on doing away with Congress and the Supreme Court. Maybe those people crying socialism, etc. were not as crazy as we thought. It's starting to look like they were right all along. I WONDER WHAT THE NEW NAME WILL BE FOR THIS ONCE GREAT NATION?????
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:09:31 PM
KN
"Everything that can be invented, has been invented." Director, US Patent Office, 1899.
Barack Obama: "The Time for Talk Is Over on Health Reform"
More drivel comes out of the mouth of "the one."
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:38:54 PM
Frank
Mark,
Where do I sign up for the Patriot Militia? Not being a "domestic terrorist", just want to continue to defend our Constitution against these domestic enemies.
R/
Frank
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:43:22 PM
Joel Winick
Foie gras has been outlawed in Chicago; but Obama and the Democrat Congress are bound and determined to stuff their brand of health care reform down the throat of the American taxpayer....this is like making foie gras from the goose that lays the golden eggs. Thanks for all you do to keep us informed!
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:47:50 PM
David Davis
Obamacare: As the warden says to the condemned (We the People) "May God have mercy on your soul". I fear for my grandchildren and their children. This is no longer the America I grew up in. Unless this President, his minions and Congress are stopped, it appears that Nikita Khrushchev's prediction may come true.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:56:03 PM
Karen
Do away with BIG GOVERNMENT/BIG BROTHER and HIGHER TAXES for the next kabillion years. Put Health Care Reform to the appropriate vote DON'T FORCE it on Americans.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 12:57:14 PM
Robert E. Lee
Kind of makes you feel for the Confederates with the whole unconstitutionality deal...
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:00:28 PM
Floyd Cox
Wow!!!!!!!! Such chances at commenting in today's email. Where do I start? Well, here goes. How about during president Obama's interview on Fox news tonight that they ask about the constitutionality of this health reform bill currently going through congress. I would point out in particular amendments 9 and 10 for starters.
To Barack Obama, I would also ask that since they would reduce my premiums by 3000%, when will they atart paying me?
To Elizabeth Vargas's questioning of Lamar Alexander, I would have said that we have tried. Did you not see the summit where we attended the dog and pony show and attempted to make our positions known? Nah, Alexander is too polite for that.
In the end, my position on this health reform bill is that it is unconstitutional for the federal government to provide such a boondoggle. If the democrats insist on giving a health reform, leave it to the states where it belongs. I don't think anyone would follow Massachusetts example which is turning into a disaster.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:03:20 PM
Texan
I think we all know what's coming but are just too afraid to verbalize it because anyone who does may well end up in jail.
This is a coup d'etat, plain and simple. They're taking over and daring us to stop them. Congress and the President are deliberately provoking the american people into a less than civilized response. If they can get that done before November they can declare an emergency suspend the elections.
Yeah I know, sounds pretty kooky but two years ago who'd have thought we'd be facing what we are today. Given what's happened so far I don't put anything past this bunch. It's feeling a bit like 4-18-1775
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:07:21 PM
terry goodwin
Im getting tired of all the comments when all we hear is vote them out in Nov. How about starting the process now by a Tax revolt in April? The Govt. survives on your money and you keep feeding them.
We can't rely on the Military, they are to busy looking out for themselves.
If I took away something of yours that was important, what would you do to get it back? Would you let me keep it if I threatened you? Or would you fight back and stop me before I did?
Contacting your Congress person will do no good. They only send you a regurgitated letter of BS back.
Nov. will come to late, the damage will already have been done. you have to figure out how to survive until then.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:13:17 PM
CaraMia
Village Idiots is a good discription for our leaders
as they are such wusses they are letting the We,
the People dangle...when all Obamacare is, is a ego trip for he and Pelosi...
Chris Mathews should get a tingle down his leg every
time he opens his mouth with wordless hubris stupidity....
That goes for Hollyweird too.
When will they realize the fat lady is just about
to end her song...
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:15:00 PM
Norge
Well, Harold, most communist dictatorships seem to pick some deliciously ironic name for their new social antfarm. Like "The People's Republic of..." or "The Worker's Paradise".
For 230 years we have been warned by our founders, by Gibbon, Burke, Ayn Rand, and a multitude of others. They'll seem smarter in a few years when we're all fighting over the same potato.
So make your voices heard and keep faith.
A ship, well constructed, will right itself.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:24:16 PM
John E Vondersaar
I sent the following letter to all of my "US representatives" under the topics - Federal Budget, HealthCare, Judiciary, Jobs, and Government Operations.
Yes, I do understand that Impeachment is carried-out by Congress, but this could possibly at least get some more of them to listen to "we the people".
March 17, 2010
US Senator Cornyn,
US Senator Hutchison,
US Representative Hensarling,
I oppose all HealthCare / Insurance “reform” specifically, and other legislation which includes “any” of the following; and I expect you to vote accordingly:
** Any increased Government Jobs – vote NO
** Any increased Government Spending – vote NO
** Any increased Government Control over our personal lives – vote NO
** Any increased US Deficit (now or in the future) – vote NO
** Any increased US Debt (now or in the future) – vote NO
** Any legislation that is not currently budgeted and paid-for – vote NO
The HealthCare / Insurance problem can be fixed by a step-by-step approach which addresses individual issues legally, and without any additional Federal Government or additional Bureaucracy. The US Constitution and the Free Enterprise system should be the driving forces and the final determination when issues arise for decision.
I want to see immediate Impeachment proceedings (for not supporting and defending the US Constitution as written) initiated against all Senators, House Representatives, Supreme Court members, the President, and Cabinet members who vote “for” any of the above items.
This government is stealing from its citizens and giving our money to others (including illegal aliens, lifetime welfare recipients, US Enemies, Terrorists, and others) which I believe is unconstitutional and thereby illegal.
John Earl Vondersaar
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:26:17 PM
marlell nielson
there is someone worse off than Obama....there is a MR Pelosi.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:30:36 PM
Timothy Thorman
To those opposing filling out the census forms with anything besides the count of people, I would say this does the country a great injustice. The census forms have been used for more than a century to document the history of American familes, and are invaluable to historians and family genealogists. The names are not revealed to the public for 70 years (after which most of us will be dead anyway), and then those who are researching family histories are able to construct who belonged to which family.
All they ask is name, birthday, address and racial background (White, Black, Hispanic, etc) of each person in a house. Nothing about religion, guns, political persuasion, or any nosy questions. The names verify the number of people.
Please fill out the census forms and mail it in. You owe this to your posterity.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:32:42 PM
Duke Johnston
The House is trying to "deem" passing the health care bill.
The old English definition of deem comes from "Dom" or DOOM!
How appropriate...
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:42:10 PM
L. Weatherly
Times like these call for Draconian measures. And by Draconian I mean Constitutional. They will not seem as harsh as what is coming our way if we do not revert back to Constitutional law. The road we are about to step down will be exceedingly harsh.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 1:58:01 PM
R. Cartwright
Please comment on the fact that the Republican Party in Congress has also used the "Deem" process and how their use differs, if it does, from the proposed unConstitutional use by the House Dems to pass the Senate health bill.
Thanks
Posted March 17, 2010 at 2:12:15 PM
Alan Van Wolfe
The very same way the Mexicans have taken over America. Crooked politicians!!
Posted March 17, 2010 at 2:12:35 PM
Texan
Re; The census.
I don't know what service I'm doing my posterity since I plan to move back to my home state before years end.
The constitutional requirement to coduct a count has absolutely nothing to do with historians or genealogists.
And what does it matter to the intent of the census whether I rent or own with or without a mortgage? Whether I'm black, white, mexican, or any other ethnicity?
I think I'm going to party like it's 1859
Posted March 17, 2010 at 2:20:05 PM
Curtis Basco
Just wanted to say that the Patriot Post, in all of its forms, is off the scale of informative and accurate ! Can't brag on you enough..
God Bless,
curtis basco
1st Infantry Grunt-Vietnam '68
Pearland, Tx.--South of Houston
Posted March 17, 2010 at 2:29:48 PM
skip
I think the outrage the posts on this website are directed at is misplaced. Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Slaughter, and the all the rest would be harmless to this nation, and could not possibly be a threat to any one person among us, if the citizens of this country did not elect any of them into office. These obviously pathetic politicians are not the problem. The voters are.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 3:33:19 PM
don
The Dem's and their evven more liberal media supporters seem to think that they are doing what is best for us, their poor ignorant subjects. I think it would be interesting if they gave the American people an opportunity to voice their opinion before they vote for the passage of the bill. The simplest and most direct way to do that would be to hold off until after the 2010 elections and if there are still enough Dem's in Congress and the Senate to pull it off then by all means, go ahead; however, if there are not enough Dems remaining to pass the bill over conservative objections, then the will of the people will have been done. So in essence, waiting until after the next elections could provide a mandate either way. That assumes that our politicians have the conviction in what they are doing and the courage to give the people a chance to speak.
Just a thought.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 3:43:02 PM
Donna
Please add the National Guard to your list of those in harms way to keep our freedom. Thanks.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 4:16:25 PM
Matt Burk
I think maybe Bob Schieffer was just being wry...I hope so...
Posted March 17, 2010 at 4:37:49 PM
don carver
RE: skip
skipper that is like saying that Adolf Hitler was harmless because the German people put him in office.
we need to start asking our fine soldiers which side will they take when this hits the fan.
and it will
Posted March 17, 2010 at 4:41:47 PM
Jim Deemer
Without an "Up or Down" vote by the House on the Senate Health Care Bill, prior to amending it via "Reconciliation" in the House, this conservative Constitution supporter and defender will DEEM this underhanded "deeming" chicanery in the House to be null, void and of no further effect at law! All House members who vote "For" a reconciliation bill with the "Slaughter-House Deeming provision" will be DEEMED TO HAVE VOTED "FOR" THE SENATE VERSION, INCLUDING ALL OF ITS ARM TWISTING GIVEAWAYS AND OMISSIONS, including (but not limited to) the "Louisiana Purchase", "Cornhusker Kickback", "Florida Medicare Advantage Discrimination", and "NON Prohibition of Federal Abortion Funding" Wake up, House members . . . OR RUE THE DAY YOU VOTED FOR THIS SENATE MONSTROSITY!
Posted March 17, 2010 at 4:46:55 PM
RalphPierre
More and more, I am hearing the murmurs of another government being overthrown...this time, it is my own. And I am inclined to join in. All over the web, in the newspapers, and in news reports, the threat of government takeover of our lives is echoed with the people's takeover of their government. Let us pray that the takeover of our Freedoms by this socialist administration is not successful, and that the takeover of our government is peaceful. But I don't look for either.
RalphPierre
Lacombe, La
Let Freedom Reign.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 4:52:04 PM
IdahoSauce
The Tree of Liberty, from time to time......
This is our time....
Posted March 17, 2010 at 4:57:19 PM
W.T. Door
We've underestimated Madame Pelosi's Machiavellian powers. Single-handedly, she's changed the bi-cameral legislature of the Constitution into a unicameral one, and a eunuch at that. With a House like that, the honorific "Madame" is all too ironically appropriate.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 5:47:58 PM
Thomas Galda
All employers should just love that 3,000% reduction in Health Care costs. That means that on a $10,000.00 policy, the reduction would amount to $300,000.00. With that kind of reduction, employers would gladly give their employees a raise.
And they Sarah Palin is stupid. It looks more like the adjectives they are trying to attach to Sarah are the ones that belong to themselves.
Thomas Galda
Pittsburgh PA.
Posted March 17, 2010 at 6:14:39 PM
Rifleman
If you knew nothing else about Obamacare, know this: If it passes, the federal government will have the legal right, through the IRS, to attach money from our private accounts -- savings, checking, investments, retirement -- to pay what they deem "our share" of the cost of "health care" to be. When Jesse James robbed banks and stage coaches, at least he was honest enough to use a gun and to point it directly into the faces of those whom he robbed. Not so with the Obama-Pelosi-Reid Band of Thieves and Robbers. As Thomas More said during his trial, 'Silence betokens assent."
Posted March 17, 2010 at 6:38:02 PM
Candace Miller
My greatest concern from the beginning about this overzealous, opportunistic group of people running things in D.C. is that they are in no way worried about future elections because if things go their way they may just decide to bypass elections like they have the rule of law in Congressional matters. They are acting more like tyrants than like elected officials.
Candace Miller
Billings, MT
Posted March 17, 2010 at 6:42:09 PM
Clayton Kirkwood
"Last year, the House was passing bills without reading them. This year, they're passing bills without voting on them." --former House Speaker Newt Gingrich
Next year, Demos may try to pass bills without writing them. Just deem them written:>))
Posted March 17, 2010 at 6:50:07 PM