I do not understand why people are intentionally misrepresenting what the Arizona state law says- it explicitly states that no individual can be detained on suspicion of illegal status, only that legal status will be checked during any lawful encounter (ie traffic stop, etc). Legal immigrants are already required to have on their person at all times their immigration documents (Greencard, visa, etc), and the proof of citizenship established by the law is nothing more than A VALID ARIZONA DRIVER'S LICENSE OR NON OPERATING ID CARD!!!! How is that in any way Draconian and why do we let the news media get by with intentionally misrepresenting the facts of the situation in order to propagate angst between races and cultures in our nation?

Now that Arizona has come to the forefront, and has done what ALL border states should be doing, it is time for TEXAS and CALIFORNIA to copy ARIZONA. Maybe, just maybe, the citizens of the United States will see the writing on the wall and demand that the borders be shut down. This country cannot become a third world country. Obama and his trough eaters must be stopped now! WE MUST SHUT THE BORDERS NOW, AND FOLLOW ARIZONA BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE! God Bless America now, not after the fact!

It is time for the ABO 2012 tee shirts.

(Anybody But Obama)

Dozens of Spanish-speaking Moslems have (illegally) crossed the border into the United States. Fact.

"Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law resist them." -Proverbs 28:4 NIV

Thanks for all that y'all do in resisting lawlessness!

Be careful on this Immigration Crisis. Remember what Rahm said about a Crisis.

NO NEW IMMIGRATION LAWS, JUST enforce what is "on the books". We already know how the enemies of the Country wanted to pass "NEW IMMIGRATION LAWS" and that "NEW" legislation was awful. So now, we have this "convolution" and we DO NOT NEED "NEW" LAWS, we need "ENFORCEMENT" of "OLD LAW".

Arizona's legislation came about because the Federal level has been "derelict" in enforcing "OLD LAW".

NO NEW LEGISLATION, ENFORCE WHAT IMMIGRATION LAWS WE HAVE.

The Feds could send "help" to Arizona to "enforce" this legislation. And the Feds should do all to "facilitate" this courageous stand that Arizona has taken.

For God & Country

Ruth Ann Wilson

It's simple enough, 0bama and supporters want to focus attention on AZ and get it off of "healthcare". All I want is to pick out 5 or 10 laws I don't have to obey and have no penality for not obeying them.

If getting pulled over for a non-working taillight allows probable cause for a car search , such as in NC. AND you are required to carry some form of ID on your person (as in most if not all states) and being an ILLEGAL person in this country is ,well, Illegal,, WHY does the enactment of this have SO many sets of knickers in a bunch?? I purposely left out the Feds Refusal/inability to secure out border out of this for now. Thats a whole different kettle of fish.

The Wall Street Journal article quoted in the Apr. 28th Patriot Post suggested that to reduce illegal entries & defuse tensions we "expand legal channels, including guest worker programs." This may be what the Wall Street Journal crowd wants - cheap labor, but this is absolute nonsense. It would increase low paid foreign workers who take our jobs away. We don't need to "defuse tensions". We need to stop allowing illegals in, secure our borders, deport illegals, & fine and/or jail employers that hire illegals!!

Law Makes it a Crime to be Illegal Immigrant." --MSNBC on-screen caption -- begging the question, "What part of 'illegal' doesn't MSNBC understand?"

Very simple...look at the initalks that make up the name of "MSNBC"

More (of the) Same...Nothing But Communists

To Glen Smith: Where can I get one of those shirts? I love it!!

To Howie Subnick - taken from the Bryan/College Station-Eagle:

Texas lawmaker to introduce anti-immigration bill

Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas -- A Texas lawmaker says she plans to push for a law similar to Arizona's get-tough immigration measure.

San Antonio Express-News and Houston Chronicle report Wednesday that Republican Rep. Debbie Riddle of Tomball says she will introduce the measure in the January legislative session.

The new Arizona law would require local and state law enforcement to question people about their immigration status -- and make it a crime for immigrants to lack registration documents.

Riddle says if the federal government did its job "Arizona wouldn't have to take this action, and neither would Texas."

Democrats say such legislation is misguided and predict it will hurt the GOP politically.

I for one back the Gov of AZ on the Immigration Law that she signed. These people that are in this country illegally, not matter what country they are from, have no rights what so ever and something needed to be done. They come to this country get all sorts of free stuff that the American citizen has to work for. My grandfather came to this country, legally, with very little and he worked very hard and back then no one got hand outs so why did we start giving out stuff, because of the liberals feeling sorry for them, Please give me a break. Our government just let it get out of control.

Governor Jan Brewer had the courage to stand up against illegal immigration, and because of that, the leftist liberal machine is barreling down on them.

Please, at the very least, send Jan an email of encouragement and support by using the web site link below.

http://azgovernor.gov/Contact.asp

Jan will also be up for reelection soon and if able, send Jan a few dollars to help. Every bit will help when the liberal machine goes after her for signing the immigration bill. I am going to send in a small donation to Jan's campaign soon.

Please, please forward this to your friends, family, and fellow Americans who have had enough of Washington’s inaction in securing our borders. Post your support in blogs, write letters, send faxes, and emails to Arizona legislatures also.

Hopefully other states will follow suit soon after Arizona's brave leadership stance on securing our borders and protecting citizens lives and rights.

This administation does not care that illegals cost the tax payers more than both wars put together and that drugs, murder and kidnapping are at an all time high in our border states. The reason is they will make them legal and they will vote for democrats.

As for Bill Clinton worried about the tea parties words might cause problems. How many people did Bill Clinton and Janet Reno murder?

Mr. Obama is completely wrong in accusing Arizona of installing a misguided law about immigration. It is the same law which the federal government will not enforce. He does everything for political gain 100% of the time. We are thankful for the upcoming elections the problem is that they don't come fast enough.

Mr. Obama is an extremely incompetent individual. Go look at his transcripts which contain his grades. He was tutored thru college and law school just as he is being tutored thru his liberal agenda.You must understand that we are not dealing with a wise man who is interested in our form of government. He will be replaced at the end of his four year term. He will prior to running for a second term have to prove and reveal his birth certificate.

He and his staff are in violation of the constitution of the United States for which he must be held accountable. He took an oath which is binding to uphold the constitution and nothing else. That is his job. The litmus test of any and every law brought up in the congress of the U.S. must be constitutional. He gets elected to reject everything else.

sincerely,

steve kohl

In response to Mr Murchison's analogy, I would like to add my own -- What our Nitwit-in-Chief would do well to experience is to have his whole family in the car when it is hijacked and taken for a high-speed chase down the wrong side of the freeway. Then he could see what we see - everything we value being run madly in the wrong direction by someone who cares nothing for what happens to the others in the car or the others on the road.

All he cares about is his immediate self-gratification.

In general, the art of government consists of

taking as much money as possible from one

class of citizens to give to another.

Voltaire (1694-1778)

The Government cannot give anyone anything, without first taking it from someone else.

"On Tuesday, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the southern border in Arizona is as safe as it ever has been."

"I know that border I think as well as anyone, and I will tell you it is as secure now as it has ever been," Napolitano said." Fox News

Sounds like Napolitano is again rationalizing about border security. A typical liberal response when confronted with their inadequacies; there's never nothing wrong.

OK, so let's for a moment take her word and say in her world it is secure as it has ever been. So on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the most secure) it is now a 2 up from a 1 when she was governor and took over.

It had been a 1 during her watch because her voting base would have it no other way. Someone fears losing her job I sense?!

I’d love to shake that Arizona sheriff’s hand for starting this whole process off many years ago with his stance on illegal aliens. He is an American hero!

Regarding Obama and his apologist at NBC...We know that a man who habitually trifles with the truth tends to lose the capacity to distinguish between truth and falsehood. It is dangerously easy to deceive ourselves about what we believe. If a person keeps repeating a story that is not true they come to believe that the falsehood is true. If we hear a falsehood repeated often enough we tend to begin to believe that the lie is true.

...and the NBCers should go back and really try to Understand THE FIRST CASUALTY...basic Journalism that escaped most of the hacks at NBC, CBS, NPR etc

the news media are no different in substance or style from the town busybody. their job is to sell newspapers like the busybody's mission is to get attention and to stir things up.

as you would deal with the town busybody, the best approach is to treat the media's "reporting" for the piffle it is and ignore it.

Hats off to Arizona for demonstrating the gumption the rest of the states need.

It is time for reality to start trumping political correctness.

Jay Leno should have mentioned that The Chinese, with the help of Mr. Clinton, built a replica of his (Bill Clinton) birthplace home, somewhere in China!

No one, not even Bush, has had the stones to enforce our immigration laws. If the federal government can't (or won't) protect us from invasion, then it will be up to us to protect ourselves. And if that means the individual states must enact their own laws to protect their citizens, then so be it. I, for one, am glad Arizona has taken this first step toward asserting their right to sovereignty. Now it is time for California, New Mexico and Texas to do the same. But I'm not going to hold my breath.

Mark...Please research about what CA did during the Depression. Between 1931-1933 they rounded up every illegal alien (350,000-400,000),and shipped then back to Mexico. There were only a few 'Americans' who were shipped,but it was very few. CA then put armed Police on every road into the state and turned back all who did not live there. Grapes of Wrath was the movie made about this. CA had a very low un-employment rate because they did this and NO ONE ever said it was illegal to do so. Please try to get this info out to everyone. I did not learn about it until I saw it at the Air Force Museum at Wright-Patterson AFB,Dayton,OH. They have a complete display about what happen in CA. This needs to be talked about by Glen Beck,Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh. Americans need to hear the truth. Len Grummell

The constitution clearly states the method for any immigrant to come into our country legally. There is a reason it's there in the first place. What is the incentive for those who go through it the hard way (as per the constitution) if we turn a blind's eye to all of those who come in illegally? Why have laws we are not willing to enforce?

That only encourages more behavior that we don't want. Thank God that the state of Arizona is willing to stand up for what is right. They are defenders of the constitution. All states should follow suite. If our president thinks he's going to bully AZ into backing down, he will soon find himself with more states exercising their sovereign rights.

Just wondering out loud...Does the Speaker of the House call her plane "air force three" ?

I find it interesting that all these opponents of this bill are screaming about racism and police states. Most states and localities in the US require driver's license or other id for anyone it is requested from. This bill merely makes Arizona law concurrent with federal law on immigration.Federal immigration law already requires documentation to be carried on your person if you are here working legally. There are many, many instances in precedence of state laws that are merely echoing what federal law already requires. I personally think all states should adopt this wording to back up federal law and keep everyone on the same page. The accusations of racism are merely the last resort of persons who no longer have a legitimate argument to give.

Unfortunately, Cheryl, Gov Perry has already demonstrated that he doesn't have the cajones to secure the border. He has, in fact, verbally backed off the mentioned Texas immigration bill.

Regarding Arizona's new and controversial immigration law from the viewpoint of a politically conservative Arizona resident: there is no question that the law was promulgated in response to the lack of federal protection for Arizona citizens from runaway human smuggling and coincident criminal activity (kidnapping, drug smuggling, murder, etc.). Human smuggling activities are driven by intense demand which has been artificially inflated by impossibly flawed and essentially unenforceable federal immigration laws badly in need of reform which in turn places Arizona citizens in jeopardy from the attendant criminal activity. The new Arizona law attempts to attack and reduce this demand (and therefore reduce human smuggling) by instilling the fear of the State into all current and prospective illegal aliens, making the state a hostile place for an illegal alien to tread. Unfortunately, such a hostile and intimidating environment (which already has chilled the immigration community) achieves a desirable result by an unacceptable set of means. Can any citizen condone the functional establishment of a potentially tyrannical police state where fear and intimidation are the intended result? I suggest not. And, if history and the wisdom of our founding fathers which required them to institute constitutional restrictions on potentially abusive state power are any guide, such a law as Arizona's does not only contradict the spirit of a free society but will inevitably turn tyrannical as well. The end does not justify the means, and better that this law be revoked.

Here's a quick test of the motives of Congress if they introduce an "immigration reform" bill: try amending it to require that an illegal immigrant applying for amnesty must reside in the United States for eight years without violating any other laws before he can be granted voting citizenship. (Legal immigrants already have a seven year wait; they should be treated preferentially compared to illegals.)

Anyone objecting to the waiting period is obviously noodling for votes rather than considering the good of the nation or the rights of the citizens.

If Pelosi et al. are calling the new AZ immigrant law enforcement act "misguided" and "irresponsible," it's probably a great idea.

Pelosi has no idea what is misguided and irresponsible even though she sees it in the mirror every day.

Once again we hear whining about how it unfair it is for the citizens of this country to ask for security of our borders. Additionally, there is some sort of belief that requiring non-citizens to carry their papers that allow them access to our country is uniquely an American idea. Most of those who are making these items issues I would dare to say haven't travelled outside our great country or have only done so in some very regulated fashion (such as a cruise). Most other nations and Mexico in particular require foreign nationals to carry their papers at all times and heaven forbid if you attempt to work there without the proper authorizations and paperwork!

Re: But Don't Tell Anyone or You'll Spoil the Surprise: "Surprise Photo-Enforcement Citations to Start Monday" --Arizona Republic

When things are taken out of context, they do sound funny. In this case, the Town of Surprise, Az, has installed photo-radar cameras. After leaving them in place for several months to monitor traffic violations, the Town of Surprise is now going to start issuing citations to violators.

Kudos to Arizona, and I hope Texas does the same. As for California, are their enough people in their government with the brains to pass such a law? Remember Pelosi is from California. So if their state government has the same kind of people, they are in trouble. ALL 50 states need to pass the same law if the Feds don't start enforcing the current immigration laws, and I don't mean give amnesty. Declare a national open season on illegals, get them out of the country, where they belong. NO AMNESTY

Good for the Governor of AZ, I wish the Governor of MD had the same concern for MD citizens as this women. What a brave Patriot. And isn't it stunning how brokendown our Federal government has become. The People must raise their voice. Join a Tea Party today and do something!!

No fence will ever stop the illegal immigration, no law or fine or incarceration will ever stop them. The only thing that will stop them from coming is the prospect of no job. As long as the U.S. will not enforce the law against employment of illegals they will continue to come. Even at $5.00 an hour they will make more in one day here than they make in a whole week in Mexico if they could find the job. Unless the U.S. employer faces mandatory jail time the illegal will continue to find work.

In case anyone thinks that the liberals on the US Supreme Court are going to do their best to dismantle and misinterpret the Establishment Clause look at the opinion released today in Salazar, Sec of Interior v. Buono. Notice how the 4 liberals including PBO's appointment voted. Fortunately, rationale thinking prevailed. Next thing you know the Boy Scout God and Country badge will violate the Establishment Clause.

When the governor of Arizona took her oath of office...it was to ...

I believe she understands.

The Wall Street Journal is quick to comment and condemn Arizona's new immigration law. Like others of similar behavior, have they read it? As explained to listeners last night on Hannity, who indicates he has read it, this check on immigration status can only occur if the person has been stopped for another violation. If there is sufficient cause for the check after that event, the officer can inquire for proof of status. Why is this extraordinary? Why is Az the evil one here? The USG and other states/cities are reprehensible for not enforcing the laws on the books and securing our borders. We do not need enhanced worker permits. Enforce the laws and the jobs these illegals seek will not be available as will the reason and ability for them to cross the border in the first place. I do agree that amnesty is simply a political means for Dems to capture votes, as are their many socialist-leaning programs. Enforcement eliminates that potential for both parties.

With all the shouting at us by the President, Demon-crats, and the media for our much maligned new law, where is the compassionate liberal voice speaking on behalf of we beleaguered legal Arizona residents who must bear the additional costs associated with illegal immigrants at both the county and state levels.

Dear Sir:

"Surprise Photo enforcement tickets to start Monday" sounds funny. The reality is that Surprise is a city here in Arizona, located west of Phoenix.

You go Arizona! It's about time the states began retrieving the power sucked away by the Washington vacuum. They can't seem to do the most basic tasks in their job description. Time for a job review and some changes in November. Perhaps now we could begin with remedial English, including the definition of "illegal".

The Looney Liberal Left and it's whiney cry-baby adolescent mentality is taking over our country in an excremental fashion!

Time to get the Christian Conservative Republican Industrial sized TP ready and begin employing it! Better yet, get a fire-hose - I certainly don't want to get THAT close.

For God's sake, do what should have been done fifty years ago! Build a 12' fence and patrol it!

It appears that politics is a game with a single goal, winning at any cost. Apart from a culture that respects honest differences and is willing to discuss related issues without distortion and downright fabrication the future is decidedly in doubt.

If Nancy and Barack oppose it, it must be good.

Nancy Pelosi and her liberal friends have decried Arizona's new law.

So as we all know, San Francisco is a Sanctuary City.

I have a proposal for all illegal immigrants who face deportation, go to San Francisco and Nancy Pelosi will welcome you all with open arms.

Arizonians, I have a great idea, why don't you run ads and billboards all over the state advertising the sanctuary cities of San Francisco and others throughout the country.

I'll bet once San Francisco gets inundated with over 500,000 + illegal aliens, they will change their minds.

Signs should say Go West aliens: San Fran Nan Pelosi waits with open arms and open pocket books!

We can even hope that they bankrupt San Francisco and California. Wait, California is already bankrupt. Go figure!

The only reason Obama, Pelosi, Holder, et al. are against the AZ bill is simply because they haven't read it and don't know what it actually says - just like they didn't read their own Health Care bill and didn't know what was in it...

While the attention is on Arizona, the U.S. Congress is poised to pass H.R. 2499, the Puerto Rican Freedom Act on Thursday, Aptil 28. This bill could make Puerto Rico our 51st state within days.

Why is Congress rushing this bill through quietly while refusing to secure our borders? Why could this not wait until after the election?

Americans have the right to know the answer. And as is usual with this administration and Congress, it will be too late when they find out.

IMMIGRATION POLICY:

The Obama administration must explain to America why it chooses to ignore the fact that no nation exists today which failed to control its borders. If you are not in complete charge of who comes and goes across your stated borders, you will surely and absolutely perish. Obama could learn a thing or two by talking to a few of the remaining American indians about what happens when you can't secure borders.

I don't believe in illegal immigration although I do understand the benefits of living in the USA over living in Mexico.

If they are illegal, they need to be sent back; we need to build a fence - 10' under the ground and electrified" if that's what it takes; THEY NEED TO SPEAK ENGLISH and work; they don't need our rights or our benefits.

They can return to Mexico and I won't cry.

Hmmm, after some more thought, better yet.

Arizona, invest in some advanced, proactive logistics.

Hire enough charter buses and guarantee safe passage to all illegal aliens to San Francisco and nearby sanctuary cities.

The savings will significantly outweigh the initial costs when free hospital care, welfare, costs of crime, and tax dollars are recoup in short period.

Send this to all the (jerks) in Washington, and other

Governors who oppose Az.'s stand on illegal's. Tell them that it is the Federal Gov'ts. responsibility to protect the borders. As stated in the Constitution.

Income tax, both personal and corporate, should be totally eliminated and replaced with a national sales tax, not a VAT. It would be applied to all purchases. This sales tax should be very low for essentials, like food and medicine, and high for luxury items, like fancy cars and mansions. People can accumulate as much wealth as they want without being taxed and would pay tax only when they purchase things. There are many advantages to a national sales tax: 1) Most states already collect sales tax, so the mechanism for tax collection is already in place for these states; the remaining states would have to set it up. 2) The tax burden would be minimal for poor people. 3) The cost of administering the income tax system would be eliminated. 4) People would never have to worry about filing income tax, which would save an enormous amount of time and frustration with paperwork. 5) In case of a national emergency, congress could increase the tax rate to cover these added expenses and could lower the tax rate in a time of prosperity to ease the tax burden on the people. 6) This sales tax would cut out the loopholes some people take advantage of to avoid paying their fair share of tax. Even criminals and illegal aliens would pay this tax.

San Francisco and California cities are now proposing boycotts of Arizona.

I propose we boycott San Francisco, Sacramento and all other cities who call for boycotts against Arizona!

In fact, I propose as Conservatives and other concerned American citizens, we send our business to Arizona in support of their leadership and stance on illegal immigration.

Let's fill the small void left when the liberal sanctuary cities by boycott Arizona.

I also hear Arizona id currently is, and is certainly going to be, a great vacation spot. Let's support Arizona businesses!!!

The only thing surprising about the leftists response to this law is the fact they waited this long to make things nerve racking for the Governor of Arizona. Obama and the lefties don't want this law to succeed because their amnesty plans would go out the window and they might even not get re-elected. I think it is fair to say that the left wants all of the illegals in this country (some of whom are NOT hispanic) to register as deomcrats and take from the cup of never ending honey.

Of course the left is misrepresenting the wording of the law. That is what they do; misrepresent the facts at every turn. Facts are the lefts most dangerous obstacle.

Duke

Your comment in the Chronicle says: But Don't Tell Anyone or You'll Spoil the Surprise: "Surprise Photo-Enforcement Citations to Start Monday" --Arizona Republic

FYI, Surprise is the name of a town, a large suburb of Phoenix on the west side. So it wasn't a surprise to the inhabitants of the Town of Surprise.

Just a point of fact. I love your Patriot Post and agree with all your points of view.

David R Mumma

Major, USAF, Ret

Payson, AZ

This is not about "brown", it's about Red, White and Blue!!

I am waiting for Obama to declare the emergency

"Illegal Alien Free Ice Cream Delivery Act" to ensure that folks are not harassed on their way to the ice cream store with their Illegal alien family members in Arizona. Give be a break...

Actually I fear that the Dems will use this "crisis" to shove amnesty down our throats --- and a couple of Rhinos - like Graham - will go along for fear of reprisals in November.

If we do not close the border and stop Illegal Alien Vote Fraud perpetrated by the Dems through blockage of voter ID in many states - then the country will be lost.

To Ruth Ann Wilson

Re: your post, Posted April 28, 2010 at 12:04:42 PM

I'm encouraged when you realize that Federal inaction in enforcing U.S. immigration laws is dereliction of duty.

But I'm sorry, and I don't mean to offend, but I must react when you say things like, "The Feds could send "help" to Arizona to "enforce" this legislation. And the Feds should do all to "facilitate" this courageous stand that Arizona has taken."

This makes me think either you've got your head in the sand or you're naive. I mean, through how many administrations does this Federal dereliction of duty have to extend before you realize that THIS IS INTENTIONAL?! As so many have concluded, this is political correctness. This is appeasement. This dereliction of duty is being done so as not to offend the hispanics in America, so as to curry favor with them at the polls.

This policical correctness and pandering is truly disgusting. But what is more disgusting, and insidious, is the fact that our pandering politicos of both parties seem to consider that the hispanics, of all stripes, are more or less unified in insisting that federal law be repeatedly broken for their sakes. In this sense, the hispanics are one big special interest group, for their special interests are truly self-interests and therefore don't at all reflect the needs of American citizens, and actually impose hardships on American citizens. Hence the statistics on the deleterious effects of illegal intrusion and all the unwelcomed taxpayer expense that has come with it.

Basically, our Federal government has allowed the special interests of foreigners to prevail over the common interests of American citizens, those that they have sworn to protect and serve. And that my friends, is criminal. That is sedition.

what in the world is the matter with the leftys.if we get rid of all the illegals and secure the borders there would jobs for american citizens!!!!!the illegals are using alot of our gas,food stamps,welfare and health care,wake up america!!!!

"'But if we continue to fail to act at a federal level, we will continue to see misguided efforts opening up around the country.' --Barack Obama on immigration."

Once again, the narcissist speaks.

Loved the comment about Nancy P.'s jet....yessss, a broomstick would be most appropiate. Right on/rock on.

Dezinformatsia........This not even a word....on dictionary has it. Why do you use it. Speak English and talk to the people. Do not try and built your own verbiage..!

I support your organization but not when you try to show, or think your show your intelligence.

Please define "Dezinformatsia"

It seems to me that one of the VERY few excuses for there even being a central (federal) government is to 'make treaties and fight wars'. I would think protecting our borders should fall in that duty somewhere.

The current group of leeches (republican, democrat, congressional representative, president, congressperson) are so caught up in giving away our (yours and mine) money in the form of handouts in order to buy power for themselves that they no longer even know what their jobs are. They don't know their duties. They don't know who they work for.

The time has come to fire them ALL. There are NO 'good' ones.

The Constitution was written in English. It isn't hard to understand. The ONLY reason to 'interpret' any part of it is to try to make it say something that you want it to say - something that it does NOT say. It reminds me of my kids and grandkids. Keep asking and rephrasing until the parent finally gets tired of saying no and relents. This 'living constitution' is just more of the same. Spoiled children trying to get their way.

Maybe it is time to force ALL political candidates to pass the same tests that LEGAL immigrants are required to pass before they are granted citizenship. They would at least have an understanding of how the system was designed to work.

Keith Hamilton, You evidently, do not understand my post. We all understand that "long ago" under "Old immigration law" the Federal government should have applied the "OLD immigration Laws" already on the books.

Now, Courageous Arizona has had to do what States do when there is "dereliction of duty" at the Federal Level.

I believe all this "crisis" has to do with just what the enemies of our Beloved Country have wanted to do for a long time. That is to "scrap our "OLD GOOD immigration laws for this "NEW CONTRAPTION". Hasn't that been the "PUSH" on "both sides of the aisle" for many years????????? It was defeated, even though, Bush was for it a few years back. Because there was "double-crossing" going on with the 1986 quota system", (just when small businesses were "complying with the Green Card paper work", a new "arm twister" entered the "picture".) Ask small business people in Maryland what happened, when they (the small businesses) wouldn't go along with the "arm twisting" on the "quota fixing racket", They simply had "gone along" with all the "burdens of the Green Card program" and then the Federal government came along, threatened to cut the "quotas", if the small business wouldn't go along with the "NEW IMMIGRATION LAW"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So the sum and total of this "CRISIS" in Arizona and in Maryland has to do with destruction of the "OLD immigration Laws" which are good and American.

Sorry that you misunderstood my post.

For God & Country

Ruth Ann Wilson

PS Bob W, I think your ideas are great. I hope they get implemented.

Adding this, Arizona codified the "OLD, Good Federal level law" at the State level. That's what's making the "enemies mad". They (the enemies of America) want "CONVOLUTION". The "crisis" is what they want. Because, if you'll notice, the Congress, at the instigation of the "bunch", are now, calling for "Immigration Reform" NOT "Immigration Enforcement". WE, the people, want "IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT." Exactly what the State of Arizona did.

IT IS "IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT" not "NEW FEDERAL LAWS." Arizona, simply codified "GOOD,OLD IMMIGRATION LAW" in a STATE STATUE. Their State law is NOT Unconstitutional.

For God & Country

Ruth Ann Wilson

Received this yesterday concerning the AZ imigration law. Thought I'd share.

bMOVING TO MEXICO

Dear President Obama:

I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.

We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.

We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.

I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over?

Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. Please print all Mexican Government forms in English.

4. I want my grandkids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.

5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my grandkids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.

7. Please plan to feed my grandkids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico , but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my housetop, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.

13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.

14. I want to receive free food stamps.

15. Naturally, I'll expect free rent subsidies.

16. I'll need income tax credits so that although I don't pay Mexican taxes, I'll receive money from the government.

17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Government pays $4,500.00 to help me buy a new car.

18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I'll get a monthly income in retirement.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the U.S. from Mexico . I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

You're the man!!!

I am for the law passed by Arizona and think more should follow suit! In my neighborhood there are new town ouses being built, there are approx. 20 men working there who have taken jobs from ourlocal people who cannot speak english, who play their hispanic music so loud it disturbs us in our homes, and when the local authorities were asked why they do not have them removed for bieng illegal immigrants (only one has the right to work, he gets paid and pays the rest in cash, huh no taxes!!) they stated they dont have the man power to control it! All states should pass it, if you are not born of this country and/or legal, you should not be here!

Just waiting for the time when The Sheriff of Arizona will question a visiting Barack Hussein Obama as to his nation of origin, naturalization or undocumented illegal immigrant status.

Everybody that have plans to take a vacation to Washington DC, California and other states whose politicians are cutting down Arizona over this law, need to change their plans and take their vacation in ARIZONA. Seems like a good time for a vacation in Arizona, don't you think? Have any of the politicians in Washington thought about what effect the illegals leaving the US would have on the unemployment rate, Healthcare payments, Welfare, and all other government programs? I think we all would benefit drastically if they would get off of their cans and enforce current immigration laws. Amnesty is not the answer, because of the instant outcome of their being dropped into other programs. The only way to win, is to send them back to where they came from.

Someone explain to me why they are against protectionism as a conservative, in terms of defending those who outsource (which I agree is a good thing to leverage for companies and ultimately for everyone by providing cheaper goods), but suddenly for it when it comes to jobs & Mexico?

Or maybe this is about use of the welfare state that we have? If it is about that, then your primary target should be eliminating the welfare state, but protectionist is a philosophy that can only fail.

The best thing that the United States could do to reduce violence on the border is legalize Marijuana. Criminalization has failed, and Marijuana was never worth being illegal for anyone who didn't support the logic behind prohibition. It is only a "gateway " drug because it's the most available illegal drug.

I get the point about enforcing laws because they are laws, but I'll start wanting to enforce them only after I believe they should even exist, and rather than enforcing a bad law I'd rather get rid of bad entitlements & restrictions that create the impetus for those laws.

Are we being led by the biggest group of uneducated people ever? You really have to be STUPID not to see what the illegal aliens are doing to this nation. Trillions upon trillions of dollars are wasted on them each year. This Nation would not be in this bad of a shape if something would have been done about them years ago. Now it has gotten so bad that the IDIOTS in Washington have no clue what to do. I say start running a bus service to take them back to where they came from or dump them at ythe home of every politician who is for amnesty. Let them pay for their keep out of their pockets.

To: Ruth Ann Wilson

My reaction to your original post came from the fact that you seemed to be expecting, or perhaps hoping, that the Feds would assist Arizona with the incursions across their border. Reread my quotes from your original post. My point, then, was to say that the Feds' dereliction of duty was intentional. They don't want to help. They want the opposite. They want more illegal intrusion and they want intrusion to no longer be classified as illegal, and they want to legalize all the criminals already here. All for votes. Having said all that, to me, there is no reasonable way in which anyone could expect the Feds to act against the illegal intrusion. That is why your statements made no sense to me.

Now, in this latest post, you make the point that the Feds want to supplant our Old Immigration policy with a "new contraption" policy. This indeed might be true, but I would guess only as a precursor to an ultimate 'open-borders' policy with American taxpayers paying to support what would then be a highly augmented and vast underclass of Obamacrat voters.

I just think that, at this point in the game, with as much as Federal liberalism has been exposed for the corrupt regime that it is, saying what the Feds should do (the right thing) to stop illegal intrusion, is like trying to tell a hardened criminal how he should behave.

Just to be clear on this, as I believe you do, I fully support the Arizona law. I believe our Federal government has been so thoroughly infiltrated by self-serving, corrupt individuals, that we do need a big purge to have any hope of cleansing ourselves. The Constitution is a wonderful creation of Man, but even its wholesome nature can be corrupted by corrupt individuals. Anyway, with the Federal government in the toilet, it only makes sense for Arizona, and all States for that matter, to act on their own accord until the entire country can clean up the stench in Washington.

Nearly every person opposed to The Arizona immigration law are saying it will cause or lead to discrimination. Therefore the law must be repealed. So let me get this straight because someone may discriminate against someone else the law must be stopped. Isn’t this reasoning the same as “this person might rob a bank so we should incarcerate him.”

“Let me be perfectly clear.” (Does that sound familiar) If some one is supposed to be protecting someone else and they are getting beaten up and the one who is supposed to be the protector isn’t protecting doesn’t that person have the right to protect himself? That is what Arizona just did.

Continuing, this is not just an Obama thing. Both Bushes and Clinton did not close the border either. Placing blame however does not keep people from getting killed or kidnaped here in Arizona. Furthermore, the problem is not just illegals it is also drugs and possible terrorists coming into the country.

I used to live in the Douglas area. This has been going on for a long time (over 50 years). The government does not want to close the border. Just another way our elected official are choosing to ignore the citizens. They think they know best like they did on Healthcare.

I hope and pray the problems we are having with the border situation can be solved peacefully. If not there will be considerable violence on both sides. The first step must be for the government to listen to the citizens NOT the illegal’s.

To: Don

Excellent points Don. We feel your pain. And I, for one, support Arizona in their legal actions to protect themselves, for all the reasons I stated in my post, above.

As so many pundits have stated, I agree that our country is on a precipice. We have to decide whether to uphold the law to protect liberty for all citizens, or knuckle under to the will of a greedy, self-interested, power-hungry, over-ambitious, and underhanded minority of us (our administration and congress) as they strive to rule over us as royalty or dictators.

CONGRAT ULAT IONS, ARIZONA!!

HOPEFULLY, THE FEDERAL GOV'T WILL FINALLY GET THE

MESSAGE AND DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE.

If Arizona can simply pass a law that mirrors a federal law which excites raging quimby’s from the Kasbah By The Bay and race baiters from everywhere else, to stay away from their state, well then, shoot, why isn’t every other state in the nation following suit?

Wait a minute, didn’t I hear that Utah and Texas is gearing up to slam down the latest liberal attempt at destroying their states. Ok, like that proverbial snow ball starting at the top of Mt. Hood, I would say illegal’s need to pack now and maybe come back to us as a tourist.

Governors from each of these states, and those that follow, can be assured Americans are not going to be intimidated into cultural capitulation because advocates for illegal criminals demand that we do. On the contrary. We will reshape the political structure from our local town councils and education boards to congress to insure this country is not continually raped be free-loaders, sociopaths and liberals.

In the mean time, the effeminate liberal Quimby’s whose panties are in a perpetual bind can pinch, scratch and pull each others hair until they reach their allowable climax. The rest of us will get back to the business of salvaging our country.

If Arizona can simply pass a law that mirrors a federal law which excites raging quimby’s from the Kasbah By The Bay and race baiters from everywhere else, to stay away from their state, well then, shoot, why isn’t every other state in the nation following suit?

Wait a minute, didn’t I hear that Utah and Texas is gearing up to slam down the latest liberal attempt at destroying their states. Ok, like that proverbial snow ball starting at the top of Mt. Hood, I would say illegal’s need to pack now and maybe come back to us as a tourist.

Governors from each of these states, and those that follow, can be assured Americans are not going to be intimidated into cultural capitulation because advocates for illegal criminals demand that we do. On the contrary. We will reshape the political structure from our local town councils and education boards to congress to insure this country is not continually raped be free-loaders, sociopaths and liberals.

In the mean time, the effeminate liberal Quimby’s whose panties are in a perpetual bind can pinch, scratch and pull each others hair until they reach their allowable climax. The rest of us will get back to the business of salvaging our country.

I find it humiliating that North Korea and Iran have more effective border security than the US.

However, President Obama has inadvertently uttered a statement with which I agree: "Indeed, our failure to act responsibly at the federal level will only open the door to irresponsibility by others." I consider that an admission of failure on the part of Mr. Obama. I agree, Mr. President that the collective your (the Federal Government's) failure to act responsibly has fomented this crisis. Not just your administration, it was a problem when I lived near the border in Cochise County in 1981 - 1982. I disagreed with President Reagan's amnesty plan, and believe that its results were as predictable as the latest proposal for "comprehensive immigration reform". We don't need new laws. We have laws that are not being enforced, and we have funding for building fences that are no longer being built. As for the President's statement, history shows that when laws are ignored, lawlessness and vigilantism fill the void. Only someone totally ignorant of history, or an idealogue who is deliberately creating a crisis would allow such a situation to continue.

Should AZ law enforcement be denied the same tools as the Federal authorities when they deploy roadblocks?

As for doing what's right 60 or 70 years ago, check out what Democrat icon President Truman deported approximately 2 million illegals to provide jobs for WWII veterans. Then check google, wikipedia, or CSMonitor archives on "Operation Wetback", about how President Eisenhower dealt with illegal immigration 60 years ago. This is not a joke. Using 1075 border control agents, roughly 1.2 million illegals were deported to Mexico.

Regarding Cindy Sheehan's lament that the TEA party is "...being treated with a lot more respect than the anti-war movement was.", Cindy should note that the TEA party as a group acts more respectfully and its members are, by and large, more respectable than her anti-war lot was.

"Surprise" referred to in headline is city near Phoenix not trick bing pulled by our legislature.

If you have a TEXAS plate on your car and drive thru NEW JERSY you will be profiled and pulled over and checked for weapons. STOP the madness and stop the illegals

Harold, I don't know that you were responding to my post but you make a few unsubstantiated remarks in your post, which are definitely exaggerated.

"Trillions upon trillions of dollars are wasted on them each year. This Nation would not be in this bad of a shape if something would have been done about them years ago."

What is your evidence for (multiple) "trillions" each year? I'll let you even try to argue for a single trillion. The best estimate I can find says 29 billion, and that's not a net figure based on benefits illegals provide such as cheaper goods due to cheaper factors of production. There is simply no evidence for trillions, even with the current welfare state. But once again, if money is being wasted, why do you not attack the programs that are causing that? Why attack the people?

As far as your comment that we would be better shape, I again have to question your reasoning. The reason that we are having problems now is because the Fed has been inflating the economy. By printing excess money the Fed has been fueling speculative bubbles in housing. Combined with bad regulations forcing mortgages to be given to people who never should have been given them (another welfare program) it was a recipe for disaster. There could have been no good end to this regardless of whether illegals were here or not.

Major Stu,

"I find it humiliating that North Korea and Iran have more effective border security than the US"

Why is it humiliating that hardcore statist governments which impose huge costs on their civilian population are better at forcing people not to do something they want to do? If you were in NK, I doubt you would want to stay there. I'm sure you would love to leave but fear being shot. Why do we want to emulate them better by forcing people away? This runs contrary to our country's principles of liberty.

I keep hearing about immigration reform. We don't need immigration reform. What we need is immigration enforcement.