I would like to know why something is not being said about the 9,000 Americans who were murdered in Mexico since Senior Calderon took office...

This country is being manipulated very badly by the extreme left....the liberals, the progressives,Socialist Democrats and the commies are the only one having any right to talk....

Loughner may be a "nut case", but he is not legally insane. This must be made clear.

The tragic shooting in AZ is sad for everyone but it was done by a nut-case. Period! Had a tea party member or a constitutional republic supporter been present the loss would have been less because he or she would have ended the rampage with one shot from the weapon they were carrying legally.

So, as a matter of conscience, some are calling for more gun-laws to help "protect" citizens from unspeakable acts of violence like those in Tuscon. Forget for a moment that Jared Loughner committed multiple felonies, both federal and state. Also, that the police, through no fault of their own, were unable to prevent these acts. Where do most American's see or hear about gun violence? I dare say that Hollywood, Cable TV, and the major media channels, either through fiction or glamorization of tragic acts expose most and desensitize regular and

"crazy" people to unlawful acts perpetrated with a gun. If that indeed be the case, where are the calls to limit the amount of violence, gun display and outright exploitation of a violent society through media? Are those same people who are so ready to destroy the 2nd Amendment of law-abiding citizenry also willing to attack their sacred 1st Amendment rights for the same purported purpose?

Victims one and all.

After reading (again) the vitriolic misstatements of the left wing, liberal media personalities, I have come to realize that the entire country is being victimized.

Neither truth nor logic enter into these widely publicized false and damning releases. Has anyone asked themselves "what else is going on in our country? Who is issuing the talking points the left is spewing?"

They all say the same things, why?

Bottom line, We the people need to get back to the job of digging ourselves out of the astronomical debt that has been laid on us especially since 2006. We need to do it now. Let us work together to make the very diffficult and most assuredly unpopular cuts in our entitlement programs and let us also restore manufacturing in our country. This, of course will necessarily mean stripping unions of their power as they have most certainly been at the forefront of pricing the USA out of business.

Whenever these things happen, radical, insanity prevails in the actions taken by lunatics. However, when the progressive, socialist and green left wish to blame conservatives, they often(mistakenly) allude to NAZIs and Fascists. These are not idealogies of conservatism but of the left, highly rank and most oderous, and in their actions and desire for government to control individual behaviors of it's peasants differ from them only in the degree of differentiation in insanity itself. Since WW II we have bought into this hook line and sinker and unfortunately it will probably take total collapse to bring the remnants of the Republic to rubble before we might again instate a free republic.

Cordially,

David Bell

The lefties who are accusing conservatives of using inflammatory language in disagreeing with the Obummer programs forget that it is our right and DUTY to protest wrongful acts by the federal government. I haven't heard ONE complaint about a law or program based on the provisions of the constitution. I have heard many based on Obummer illegally appointing czars with the power to control parts of our government. I have heard many based on his illegal take-over of private industries, etc., etc. I will hear more and I will be part of them.

Apparently, the New York Times and their ilk have conveniently forgotten more than 8 years of vitriol and hatred spewed through its pages and from the mouths of Al Gore, Howard Dean, Alan Grayson and many others at the Bush Administration and Republicans in general. I've not seen any movie about assassinating President Obama, nor do I care to; but it seems there was one about President Bush. Vitriol gets no courser than such depravity. Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, et al, have never uttered anything so vile as the left did ad nauseam from November, 2000 until November 2008.

Yeah....there's lot's of rhetoric going around:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/01/dem-congressman-who-called-gop-gov-be-put-against-wall-and-shot-n

"IF" guns do in fact kill people then why aren't they getting themselves off the shelves in the pawn shops and gun racks all over the world and going about killing people just because they can! If that analogy were true then we'd have problems, but since it is "Impossible" then we all KNOW that it takes a human being to pick up that weapon and load it and fire it at the intended target! that (ir-)responsibility needs to be rewarded or punished or dealt w/as per the laws in place on the books NOW! The analogy is that why don't we stop all drivers from driving because one man drove drunk and killed someone w/that vehicle!!! OH, wait a minute, I KNOW what it is: someone has another agenda, gun control for those that want the power to take over! Then only the powerful and the wicked have the control and they control US!! Fact: every nation that has or has had gun control is now or was a communist or a fascist nation. i.e. China, Russia, Vietnam, Germany, etc Read history.....

I thought that the Left were abunch of vile hate mongers with all of the attacks against Sara Palin's family during the 08 election.

But this, this latest outburst of rhetorical baloney, blaming everyone on the right for a nutjobs horrendous act in despicable.

Not one law in existence, or any new law for that matter, would have prevented this act of violence. Laws DO NOT prevent crime.

It seems to me that in a state like AZ where it is legal, these victims could have been armed, and maybe they very well should have been.

Guns kill. And those who glamorize gunplay or worship gun ownership do no service to humanity." --Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), who is preparing to introduce more gun-control legislation in the wake of the Arizona shootings.

In response to the above comment, Guns do not kill. People with guns kill. People who are not in complete control of their mental faculties will kill indiscriminantly. Competent people trained to use guns, use them responsibly. Just as a person trained to use a chain saw can make unbelievably ornate ice scuptures, or a person trained to use sizzers can create eye appealing fashions, or a person trained to use a knife can create intricate wooden pieces, a person who misuses these tools can create equal or greater mayhem as they could with a gun. It is not so much the control of the guns, or the chain saws, or the sizzers, or the knives that sould be at issue. It is being aware of those persons who would be capable of the travesty that just occrred in Tuscon, and be proactive enough to eliminate this horrific event from occurring in the future. That should be everyone's responsiblity. From the early reports coming out of the investigations of this incident, there were several people who were aware that this person was not "normal". To lay the fault of this incident on the short comings of some piece of legislation is a falacy.

Someone said, "Responsible Journalism" LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL No such animal!!!

Where were all of these gun carrying people I hear so much about that did not fight back? Were there any police close by to assist in crowd control? I really am surprized that there was no other weapons around and people willing to stop the assault. Seems to me that if there were a few concealed carry people there this act would have stopped rather quickly. Have I been misled as to the number of people who are armed? Just perplexed at all the misinformation I'm being fed .

An armed society is a polite society. An unarmed society will be victimized. If the judge or one of Giffords' staff had been doing their duty to carry protection then the carnage would have been greatly reduced. If one fails to protect themselves then they are much more apt to become victims when least expected. If those who were victims of Laughner had known in advance then surely they would have taken steps to prevent it. They did not and therefore became victims. Assume that you may be attacked at any time and be prepared. Better to carry and not need it in your lifetime than to be caught as these victms were. It should be the duty of all law abiding citizens to cary concealed protection. It may not prevent all crime but it would go a long way toward reducing it

Thought you would like to see what Dave Gonigam from the The 5 Min. Forecast newsletter says about the Tucson shooting. These guys have a decent business newsletter but they’re definitely Left- Wing. It’s a classic, “Putting the blame on the the Tea Party without actually saying it yourself.”

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“I saw Jared Loughner’s mugshot on The New York Times, The Washington Post, Time and Newsweek, etc.” writes a faithful 5 reader, a teacher in Beijing whom Addison hears from every few weeks.

“I smell some reminiscence of political assassinations -- some really famous ones after which the course of history was changed. This guy could be a hero to many. He looks proud and victorious on Time. Many nationalist nutjobs would kill for that front cover.

“From his motivation, we can smell his mind deep drenched in the alcohol of Tea Party propaganda. The popularization of political assassination is the pretext of many authoritarian regimes. Before National Socialists became Nazis, we thought it was just a populist movement.

“The government can regulate the economy and Wall Street, but can’t regulate people’s anger. The Tea Party and the Tucson assassination is only the beginning of something big enough to start an ultra-nationalism movement on the path to a possible world war. What could we do to stop the history from repeating itself?”

You don’t have to agree with all of this, or any of it. We just present it as a glimpse into what folks might be thinking over there, even as they accomplish new headline-grabbing feats.

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There you have it; put the story out in print and try to formulate people's opinion . . . My question, where's the other side of this? You won't get it from this newsletter.

I was just viewing some Twitter posts on You Tube from some of the more benevolent members of the left, expressing their desire that Sarah Palin was the one who should have been shot. Some were actually much kinder in that they wished she would come down with some form of inoperable terminal cancer, or at the very least have her toes shot off. Did they get their taste for violent retribution from the right, or from some other sources, such as Ed Schultz?

The British called the Signers of the Declaration, "extreme," and they placed a bounty on their heads, issued Writs of Treason, hunted them with the express purpose of publicly hanging them.

(What happened to those Signers makes fascinating reading. They suffered beyond telling for the sake of generations yet unborn.)

Those "Rabble in arms" were, in fact, extreme -- based on their refusal to kowtow to King and Parliament, their refusal to allow Government to define the scope of their lives.

(Only 25% of the Colonists took up arms. 25% opposed the Rebellion including the people of New York Colony who sided with the King while fully half of the Colonists waited to see which way the political winds would blow.)

This Nation's history has been written as traversing brief periods of peace and quiet between societal and political conflagrations.

It's that periodic fire which purifies, makes the Body Politic stronger, creates fertile ground for new growth, burns away the chaff and the dross.

Hillary is exactly right with her word choice but exactly wrong with her motives. 235 years ago, she'd have sided with George III.

Let's see...

There are 30,000+ gun laws in force in this Nation -- some 600 per State -- with more being enacted every week.

Background checks are mandated for every firearm purchase made through federally-licensed dealers.

Every purchaser of a firearm must fill out federal Form 4473 which contains 14 questions which must be answered truthfully. Filling our that Form incorrectly or falsifying information is a federal felony. The 14 questions range from citizenship to mental history to domestic violence.

No one under the age of 21 may possess a handgun. Only citizens of a particular State are permitted to buy a handgun from that State.

A felon is prohibited from owning a firearm or any bullets. Each count could net him 5 years. Having a pistol in his possession with 10 bullets in the clip requires a 55 year sentence.

Automatic weapons -- "assault weapons" -- have been outlawed for civilian ownership since 1934.

Every State has enacted prohibitions against people carrying firearms to certain venues, including political gatherings, airports, churches, schools, government buildings, and more.

Every State has enacted prohibitions against murder, ADW, assault.

Over two million times each year, civilian gun owners interdict crimes in progress, most often without firing a shot. A determined citizen, willing to use his or her firearm is usually enough tpo deter the perpetrator.

The Second Amendment reads, in part, "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

Since 1963, Libbies seem to have forgotten how to read plain English.

Now, tell me, please, which of those more than 30,000 laws would have prevented those shootings?

Has the irony of Julian Assange's statement escaped everyone's notice? He, the so-called "champion of free speech" is upset because his name was leaked in connection with the criminal charges brought in Sweden. Sorry, Julian, you can't have it both ways.

Aside from that, for the life of me I cannot find where a single "senior politician" or media commentator called for the murder of anyone. Julian, where did that come from?

I think Julian Assange should crawl back under the rock he was born under.

This administration appears to be saying (ever since its inception: "Watch my right hand and perhaps you won't see what my left hand is doing!"

A Federal Judge in AZ was killed. 72 hours before he was killed, he issued a critical "preliminary ruling" against the Obama Administration to prevent them from acting on an FDR Executive order (6102) which allowed the government to sieze personal savings when no proof of a crime was committed (USA vs ? $333,520. in US Currency et al, Case Number: 4:2010cv00703,filed Nov 30, 2010)Why isn't the Lame Stream Media pursuing this? I wonder.............

the government any government promises to solve all your problems then can't this drives people to the brink thats why we have a republic

Every tragic event can be blamed on some person or group if the blame comes from those with an agenda.

Katrina was in fact the total fault G. Bush. Was he not in the driver's seat? No is the time, according the some politicos the have gun control. Where were

they last week or last year when inter-city shooting are happening. I would hope and pray that we look to God for rational guidance before we speak

with no knowledge of what we are about to say.

God bless our nation and it's people. tjv.

I find the media's call to "turn down the rhetoric" and the reference to "angry debate" worrisome. It seems a precursor to limiting free speech.

Didn't Adolph have sensible gun laws? Go to JPFO.org and check out the countries with sensible gun laws and the number of people killed by their own governments.

If there was an armed individual besides the madman on the train, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy may not be a widow and her son a cripple.

Rifleman, I agree-Hillary most definitely would have sided with George III. Today, she sides with a different George- George Soros, whom has stated that Communism is no longer a threat to the USA, now it is Capitalism America must fear.

Melody

Washington Post business columnist Steven Pearlstein says, "Repealing health-care reform, for instance, would inevitably lead to thousands of unnecessary deaths each year because of an inability to get medical care. ... I wonder how Republicans and their media posse would like it if Democrats started referring to 'genocidal' deregulation or the 'murderous' repeal of health-care reform."

News flash for Steve - There never has been, nor will there ever be enough medical care to go around for everyone.

Today, medical care is "rationed" based on who can afford it, either by paying directly for it, by obtaining insurance that will pay for it, or by finding someone charitable enough to pay for it for you.

In the government's health care plan the issue of enough medical care will not be solved. Matter of fact it will probably be exacerbate because more people will be demanding their "free" health care and more health care providers will get out of the business because their rewards (i.e., payments from the government for their services and skills) will be too low. Instead of medical care being "rationed" based on the individual's ability to obtain it, it will be "rationed" by some government official who decides who gets what.

This is not all that complicated.Blah, Blah,Blame the blame that...we have become so inundated with negativism, hate and mean spirited politics it's no wonder things are as the are. Everyone is in a rush to say it's not me it's them...well it's all of us. We need to return to common sense and decentcy. We look to vilify everyone we can it sells papers and makes for news stories with high ratings. Just stop it don't listen to it refused to be part of it..yeah be nice, be kind and mind your own business. Too many just relish hearing the dirt. Life is not a soap opera.

When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.

If Jared had been out to kill only U.S. Congresswoman, Giffords – because she was a Democrat – he would have used a normal clip with probably nine cartridges, but he had an extended clip that reportedly held 31 cartridges. Yes, he planned to kill Giffords (the key figure, of national prominence), then proceed to indiscriminately kill at least 20 more innocent people to make this as BIG a story as possible. He was even trying to re-load with another clip, to double the number of killings, when he was knocked down. People will remember Jared Loughner, almost like Lee Harvey Oswald. That was his primary goal. He wanted to be “somebody.” His ego demanded that he make a name for himself, go down in history. Don’t believe those lies about Tea Party rhetoric, Rush Limbaugh, and Sarah Palin. They had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with it!

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was overly extreme in her remarks concerning the Arizona tragedy?

Anytime someone blames another for murder, based on the use of a metaphore, the accuser is thinking nonsensically, and has lost the true sense of reality because, metaphores are not meant to be real, whether biblically, politically or otherwise.

Rev. Dr. Don Bailey

Cumberland City, TN

Did you see the picture of that guy with the maniacal grin on his face? Does that look like someone who has both oars in the water?

Using Rep. McCarthy's argument, we should also ban cars. How many people are killed by cars in AMerica eahc year? After all it is NEVER the fault of the driver, it's the car that goes out and wrecks and kills. Let's ban all cars and go to public transportation. Imagine: No more drunk drivers, and fewer car casued deaths!!!

Just like a broken clock, even Bob Schieffer can get it right once in a while.

His statement, quoted in "Dezinformatzia", was actually spot-on. It is so easy for either side of any argument to become so passionate that they cross the line from civilized debate to violent conflict. Where the failure has come from, regarding the greater portion of the leftist media, is that they are arguing with unfounded factoids - as Ronald Reagan said so eloquently, "they know so much that isn't so".

It seems like the same people hollering the loudest against speaking out are the same one who hollered global warming was causing everything.

seems like it's blame most of america for wanting what is good and decent about this land .

so that being said ; I would make this suggestion

their are planes and boats leaving everyday for other places. so don't let the door hit your rear.leave my nation along we have done an fought this war. REMEMBER

Yes, what happened in Arizona was horrible and unjustifiable, but what is happening in the minds of the accusers is just as horrible and unjustifiable. We Americans want to blame someone for everything that we do, failing to heed the admonition of what Pogo once said, "We have met the enemy and he is us." Whatever happened to "...forgive us our trepasses as we forgive those who trespass against us"? Far too many of us are like the Monday Morning quarterbacks analyzing why our team lost the game. We weren't there, we didn't play, but, boy, do we know all the answers! Until we, and I mean all the talking heads, news anchors, and far out Liberal media learn to shut up until everything is known, this back-biting will continue. I wonder what was being said about John Wilkes Booth after his trip into infamy? Surely, no one blamed the Tea Party, or George Bush, or did they?

"Pretend the Constitution says what you want it to say...." --author Daniel J. Flynn

A thing of wax in the hand of authors as well as judges. "Pretend" is certainly easier than the amendment process. If only his political allies were as honest, then the people could see and defeat them.

The liberal knee-jerk reaction to death is always to ban something or make another assinine law (that they don't have the stones to enforce,anyway)and trample all over the Contitution to "save a life".

PEOPLE have been killing PEOPLE since Cain and Abel.

Are deaths tragic? Yes, they are....but, death is a part of life and we do what we can to prevent it but it will be that way until the end of time.

Abotion aside, what makes these clowns think they can stop death from happening by restricting the human rights of millions of FREE PEOPLE for the sake of a life?

If these pompous "elites" would truly KNOW GOD, they would stop trying to be Him !

Oh! I wonder if Cain had a gun?

Before anyone jumps to conclusion they had better read both between the lines and quite a bit further. The judge had challenged the aka/usurper;the non-qualified kenyan in the white house in a case and I will bet you that HE was the initial target: She was just a collateral-damage!

I am as far right wing radical as they get. Bar none. Yet, I have never condoned, nor nor even threatened a program that destroys our government. I have supported our government through thick and thin,for better or worse, because that is the Patriotic thing to do. It is the responsible thing to do. I do not agree with the destructive policies being established. Destructive to our economic system, to our way of live, our ideology as a diverse nation. Not even when our fundamental and crucial traditions come under attack by the left wing liberals. I support and defend their Right to speak their mind and live their lives according to their conscience. I am armed.To the teeth. With enough semi-automatic battle rifles to get the job done. Against whom, you ask? The government? The establishment? Nay. Not at all. I am armed and have the stock pile of ammunition to protect me and mine from the radical liberal loonies who rush out in the street and begin a program of destruction and looting at the first sign of RWOL, Rule Without Law. The same as they exhibited in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. During the Rodney King incident induced riots in Los Angeles. Do I train and plan to go on roving search and destroy patrols? No...I train to defend fixed-position perimeters. Formed around my supply and shelter base. Do I ever expect to be forced to do this? Take a close look at the political and moral indicators well established within the Democratic and liberal left wing agenda and answer that for yourself. Do I feel safe to depend on the government to protect me from such nonsense? Look at the resulting agenda and program in New Orleans after Katrina and, again, answer that for yourself.

What do I support and defend? Rule of Law. Fundamental moral support of law based upon the essence of the strict limitations established within the Constitution. I strongly support a community effort in the event of a catastrophic event, be it financial or natural disaster oriented. Plan together, as a community, both Right and Left, to respond to such an event with an open mind and heart. Don't run around acting like savage heathens. Stand together. Provide help for those in need. Share with those around you. Even if we are all without jobs, and the situation seems hopeless at the moment. We can and we will overcome all trials and tribulations if we stand together and put our differences aside when it counts the most.

No job? Clean up. Pick up the trash on the road side. Recycle some paper and metals. Make the most of a bad situation. Those who remain employed, share what you have with those exhibiting the ability and responsibility to move forward responsibly. People can work and live on a belly full of rice and beans. Gets old, sure, but hey, better than an empty stomach. The list goes on and on. You get the picture. Don't fall prey to the primitive desires to destroy and steal when all seems lost. We can make a difference. We can rebuild. We can get back to Basics in this nation when She goes down, because the Establishment has brought us down. But, we can reboot the System and rebuild it better and back in line with Constitutional values.

Democrats are desperate, in terrible condition. They want to distract the nation from the clear required course of balancing the budget and slashing regulations, and getting massive Big Government off our backs.

The hypocrites are trying to build the climate of political hate against Republicans and the Tea Party which they pretend caused the crimes in Tuscon.

Don't back down. Stick to the mission. Melt away the arrogant, greedy, obese government.

Or, Without Rule Of Law...if you will

It's amazing to me that pundits can find a link to political rhetoric in the Tuscon killings with absolutely no evidence of the killer's tie to any political group while evidence of interest in violent media, groups, books and websites, along with death culture icons in the backyard fail to raise one suggestion that the violence of our media and entertainment arts might incite a troubled mind more than vitrolic political speech. But then, such a suggestion might be politically incorrect.

As I have been posting all day; the real issue as

regards the tragedy in Tuscon is not, IMHO, one of

blaming pundit/politician vitriol, but rather we as

a people, and especially our legislators, now need to address the repair of our mental health care system, in order to avert another senseless shooting.

Be reminded, my fellow Americans, that many years

ago it was the predecessors of this Congress and

many states' legislatures to enact laws that allowed the Loughners of the world to remain on the streets.

Yes, perhaps we need to tone down the inflammatory

rhetoric on both sides, but clearly the primary

issue is one of fixing our mental health laws to

protect the citizenry and see to it that the Loughners receive psychiatric help.

Good luck, America.

Since the army major who killed all those folk at Ft Hood was a muslim, why are we not vilifying all muslims or army folk?

BECAUSE IT IS RIDICULOUS TO MAKE HASTY GENERALIZATIONS ABOUT A GROUP BASE ON THE ACTIONS OF A NUT!!!

Pima County, Arizona, Sheriff Clarence Dupnick is an embarrassment to law enforcement. He has clearly crossed a line. The good people of Pima County should already be several days into a recall effort.

I concur with your analysis. We as a nation, alas, part of the western culture, we have an innate need to place blame.

However I'm afraid you have eros in this one instance, at least to my thinking. we are focused on one mentally ill person, some headline grabbing individuals on both sides of the political spectrum. The question isn't why, the focus should be what will be.

Sooner and I do mean sooner than later, someone who is marginally stable on either side of the political arena will listen to their favorite shock jock, television personality, and this time words and rhetoric will kill.

We will of course play the blame game for everyone knows we can't be wrong or to assume some of the responsibility.

having said that, having lived in Arizona for 40 years, I know they as a matter of course dump those who are ill on the streets. (Insurance is the blame) With the ill on the streets, there ability to fixate, I'm shocked more aren't killed, I mean beyond the typical citizen that we usually don't hear anything about for they don't have a prestigious title.

I've noted, how be it briefly, three underlying problems. Now what are WE going to do about it? Are we going to write an editorial, blog, exegeses, or are we going to push to fix what's broken?

We need for the time focus on what happened, we need in the short term and long term, fix what caused it.

We may disagree with some comments made on either side, those are of little irrelevance and neither is what I've heard some much of, "exercise your 2nd amendment rights." Let's focus on the future and fix our great nation.

The tragedy in Tucson, Arizona has sparked a few debates mainly one about gun control and political rhetoric. The Left wants to blame the Right for alot of this.Congresswoman Giffords, was shot by Jared Loughner who must have had some issues.There is no question some people that don't trust the government for many reasons. We have seen it especially with the Healthcare Bill, aka Socialized Medicine. If the politicans would be truthful about issue that would be one thing, they aren't. People are fed up with them and it showed with the November 2010 elections. The gun has no issue here, as Mr.Loughner had other issues whatever they may be or have been. Tragically six people died needlessly becasue of one individual's issues. He took them out on an elected official and others. The mainstream media as a whole has some responsibilty to bear as well. They broadcast what they decide to report as newsworthy, and they have lost their integrity, and objectivity on many issues and they are biased as well on certain issues. To those that want to live in a socialistic country or environment. I say go ahead leave this country, pick the socialist country of your choice to live in. We don't need you, your socialistic ideas or socialism. We are the USA and will remain that way. Get out of our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Steve Coraggio

Post Hoc Ergo Prop to hoc. Argument in Logic. Example: All Indians walk in single file, at least the oneI saw did. Seems to me the left is using example given as their main argument that looks like the argument in Logic.

Please use logic and the right argument when addressing the Left!

Isaac Asimov said it best a long time ago. "An armed society, is a polite society." One handgun in the hands of someone who knew how to use it would have stopped the nut before he had a chance to pull the trigger the third or forth time! I just wish I'd been there.

Keep in mind one thing. Every mass murderer in the last 100 years was a Progressive. From Lenin to the Earl Warren Court they have marched through the 20th and now the 21st century, slaughtering, butchering and murdering the innocent. Lenin, Beria, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Mussolini, The Kims of North Korea, The East Block Dictators, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Min, Idi Amin, Castro, Earl Warren. On and on they march, doing their evil. 200 hundred million and rising. Progressives all.

Every one believed in Gun Control.

Sic Semper Tyrannis!

It is not the guns that kill, it is the people using the guns that kill.

Hey, Matt S., don't forget that knives and baseball bats, even lamps need to be band because they also kill.

I can't help but be amazed that this nut was able to fire off every round in his extended mag before someone took him down. Where was the security? Where were the police that should have been on hand for this Town Hall Meeting in a location as public as the Safeway? How could this happen without a single shot fired back by police or security?

@ Rifleman  re:  01 12 11 at 12:20 -- Excellent point, sir, and clarifying the fact that: the right will understand that far fewer laws are needed, as many of those in place are not fulfilling their stated purpose; and, the left will understand that far more laws are needed, as the laws in place already are clearly not enough to stop the violence.

@Liberty  re: 01 12 11 at 13:40 -- "When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away."

Makes you think of another line of text...

"...or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."

(United States Constitution, Article I, Section 10(3))

If there are any parellels they are closer to the Weather Underground - Bill Ayres (Obama's frined and mentor) and like groups. Maybe that is why Obama has not saying what may have urges him to say and for the first time said what a president should say.

The more and more I research the political left, the more concerned I get and the uglier it gets.

While researching the mortgage mess, I stumbled upon a book called "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky. In this book he lists thirteen rules which radicals must use to subdue their opponents in order to kill open and honest debate.

Rule number 5: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.

Rule number 8: Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

Rule number 13: Pick a target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

Saul Alinsky was a Chicago rabble-rouser who trained his acolytes in highly agressive techniques of community activism. Alinsky also mastered the art of scape-goating or misplaced rage.

After using Arizona as a target, BHO, Holder and Napolitano came to console us! Hard to top the irony of that.

The selective memory of those implying the rhetoric of the right is somehow to blame for the Arizona tragedy is shocking. Why is it these people can't remember their own violent rhetoric on the left, condeming in the ugliest of terms, President George W. Bush and the Republican Congress just a few years ago?

Inherent in the politics of democracy is conflict. Both sides need to better learn the techniques of conflict resolution.

Judge Napolitano on 'Freedom Watch'-paraphrasing- that the Westboro crowd has a Right to Freedom of Speech & that AZ legislature should be careful not to infringe upon that Right. I beg to differ, this is a 1st Amendment issue but it is more a freedom of religion issue than speech & it also falls under property Rights. The funeral is being held on property, a Lot of which has been purchased by the family of the deceased, they have a Right to quiet upon that property. Also, the funeral is a religious service and no other group has a Right to disrupt upon another religious service.

From 1998 to 2010 there were five (5) murders in Leavenworth County, Kansas.

One was with a hammer. One was with a screw driver. One was with a bat. One was with a propane tank bomb. One was a "boyfriend" pushing a two year old child down the stairs.

What kind of laws do we need to protect people from these type murders?

Note to Carolyn McCarthy D-NY. "Guns kill". Foolish me. I thought they were inanimate objects. Does this mean "cars kill?"

If I recall correctly, after the Fort Hood shooting we were warned not to jump to conclusions or lay blame until all the facts were out. Are these not the very same group of politicians and journalists who now "rush to judgement" against conservatives after the Tucson shooting?

again, eloquently stated. the question never should be, this time, do the damage control. We should ask ourselves 2 questions:

1. How van we tone down thew carnage. The answer is simplistic, we don't need 30 shot clips.

2. Will it happen again, yes. Will it be an unstable person, more than likely. When we have the head of the GOP for AZ resigning for the death threats the received from tea partiers, something is wrong with out toxic system. When two people were sentence for killing, at the sentence phase, they admitted to Beck was of a concern, what he said, these are unstable person, still the blame lies with the social commentators.

There was no direct link, this time. What are we going to do to lesson the next time where there might be a direct link, say they are unstable? This is almost always the case. Still we have to tone the rhetoric on both sides, quit playing politics and do the peoples business.

We can lessen the impact, this is and should be our only concern verses this time he had no clear cut ties with either parties.

This isn't a debate about "2nd amendment rights,' yet the more we hear about a 2nd amendment remedy, someone will take them up on it. The blame will lie with them and the congresswoman stating it.

We can have a spirited debate without the toxicity of killing. On this we have to agree on or what you fear the most, more laws to strangle your rights will be placed in effect.

The choice is ours.

I saw my father break my brother's nose and break my mother's scapula with his fists. According to Dems' logic, ALL FATHERS NEED TO HAVE THEIR HANDS AMPUTATED, ONLY DEMOCRAT CONGRESSMEN MAY HAVE HANDS!

Stop talking, start organizing and acting.

To 'rk sprau',

What are you SMOKING?! Your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

'Do not jump to conclusions'. What was it BHO said about the police man who confronted the professor who would not identify himself, despite the police man trying to protect that same professor's property and life? And this before BHO had 'all the facts'.

The anti-gunners love to tell everyone that guns are not necessary. The police will protect us. That is their job.

Well, la di da. When drug dealers and other violent offenders are caught the courts promptly release them on bail. They know who the winesses are against them and make it clear that testimony will cause death of the witnesses and family. Even if jailed, the offenders get the word to their gang to silence the witnesses and family. Result---without proof or witnesses the offenders walk. This has happened repeatedly in Baltimore.

By law the witnesses are barred from weapons for self defense and are sitting ducks.

Oh, did I mention that anti gunners think the police will defend them ? Attorney generaals at county and state level have issued opinions that police are under no obligation to protect anyone. If they do so it is on their personal initiative. Don't believe this ? Check it out yourself.

Dr P J J

A small Baptist church in Tuscon wanted to stage a "protest" at the funeral of the nine year old victim in the Tuscon shooting last week. It doesn't matter why they wanted to "protest," it is self serving and reprehensible to turn this funeral into a mockery of this child's death..

To have allowed this small "church" to have a voice in this funeral would have made a mockery of our country and our morals. Instead it was "ordered" to move several feet away from the church entrance. A group of citizens wore "wings" and formed a ring around the protesters so they could be muted.

This killing was by a deranged young man whose "condition," while recognized was never taken seriously by the scores of individuals who thought it "politically incorrect" to bring it to the attention of those who might have helped him by intervening before his illness reached this climax. And yet we have a group of "citizens" who are allowed to spew hate towards those that don't agree with them, thereby giving them a platform for their views.

My politics are non-partisan and I abhor all the rhetoric that passes for "acceptable dialogue." I am the first to beg for eliminating this bipartisanship hate mongering, but this young man was less motivated by politics than by his own demons which were allowed to foment into demonizing our government. Had those around him been less inclined to believe the rants as a political "right" then he may have received the help he so desperately needed.

A small "faction" was able to remove GOD from our schools and public buildings because the 86% of the rest of the US population said it was their right to not be "offended by our prayers." Others are testing for further abrogation of our citizen "rights." When we back away for "political correctness" we are GIVING AWAY our rights. It grieves me that "Angels" are needed to give this young girl her proper funeral, but hopefully Angels will continue to protect us from similar hate.

No political entity is blameless in this travesty. But ALL are as vitriol passes for conversation. Even attempts at conciliation are viewed as suspect and are beaten down viciously. Civility is considered acquiescence. Lord help us, we desperately need it.

"There are a whole lot of people in the Tea Party that I see in these polls who don't want any compromise. My presumption is they have unhappy families.

Is there any doubt that the majority of Conservatives, Republicans, Tea Party Members are from 2 parent families and where obeying the law, man-made AND moral, is a high priority? In addition, the rate of children born out of wedlock among these individuals is extremely low. And again, in which group would you expect the use of illegal drugs to be the lowest? Now, the question is, in which group would you expect to find unhappy families, liberal or Conservative?

Deriding the Constitution: "All this stuff taking place in the [House] Chambers the other day, when the Constitution was being read -- all that stuff is uncalled for." --South Carolina Demo Rep. James Clyburn

Translation: Why bother the American people with the facts of what the Constitution says, democrats swear an oath, not to protect the US Constitution, but AT the US Constitution.