"It seems to me that, on any reasonable assessment, the gulf between the parties on fiscal policy is becoming more difficult to bridge, not less."

How true, but it is not just fiscal policy. Take foreign policy. How many of the Republican big shots (you can't call them leaders) are members of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or the Bilderberg Group? Four that come to mind are Bush the Elder, Newt Gingrich, Rick Perry and George Schultz. And don't forget the major one Henry Kissinger. There are also more than a few that have no use for the Second Amendment. Most come from the Rockefeller Wing of the RINO party in the northeast. Three that come to mind are Romney, George Pataki (he pushed anti-gun laws through the NY legislature that Upchuck Schumer is envious of) and Peter King (congressman NY). BTW, who gave us the incandescent light bulb ban, No child left Behind, the TSA, Medicare part D, etc? If the RINO's keep this up I will just have to vote Whig Party. What they became irrelevant and no longer exist.

Sadly, the right blames the left, the left blames the right and even sadder...I think Obama will be re-elected. Why? Because many people just don't care what is happening. As long as they get "theirs" they think life is fine. Those with that thinking make up a majority of America. And sadder still, most I talk to shake their head in amazement and wonder even if another took his place, would they be able to turn the tide? I'm doubtful.

A perfect example of the spend our way out of the debt is this quote:

"The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that. So there is zero probability of default" Alan "How can I be over drawn I still have lots of checks left" Greenspan on the Press (8/7/2011)

With this level of sagacity among our economic leadership is it any wonder we are on the brink of hyper inflation?

"If the US Government was a family, they would be making $58,000 a year, spending $75,000 a year, and have $327,000 in credit card debt. They are currently proposing BIG spending cuts to reduce their spending...to $72,000 a year. These are the actual proportions of the federal budget and debt, reduced to a level that we can understand." -- Dave Ramsey

Thomas Sowell misses the point on SSA. I am 73 years old and paid the maximum amount into SSA for over 30 years. We were told that "our money" would be paid back to us at retirement. I planned my retirement around having that income. I have another small pension, but could not live on it. Maybe I should have worked longer, saved more or lowered my standard of living. I didn't because I "knew" I would have SSA to supplement my income. If you want to change the rules, start with people who have many years of work left. It is not my fault that the government lied to me. I feel no ownership in the problem, in that I have voted for conservatives all my life. I don't mind a tax increase (on the 50% who pay no taxes). I paid more than my fair share while I was working and now even pay tax on my SSA. Sowell says retired people have more income than any other age bracket. Duh! We planned it that way. Does he really want to punish people for planning ahead? If so, he just lost me as a fan.

Did S&P make an accounting error? Who cares?- it can't possibly equal the errors of the last three and a half administrations.

The consequences will be determined by where those without financial problems choose to shelter their money.

“we (have) been progressively been moving away from the basic ideas on which Western civilization has been built….We have progressively abandoned that freedom in economic affairs without which personal and political freedom has never existed in the past. Although we had been warned by some of the greatest political thinkers of the nineteenth century, by Tocqueville and Lord Acton, that socialism means slavery, we have steadily moved in the direction of socialism…We are rapidly abandoning not the views merely of Cobden and Bright, of Adam Smith and Hume, or even of Locke and Milton, but of the salient characteristics of Western civilization as it has grown from the foundations laid by Christianity and the Greeks and Romans. Not merely nineteenth- and eighteenth-century liberalism, but the basic individualism inherited by us from Erasmus and Montaigne, from Cicero and Tacitus, Pericles and Thucydides, is progressively relinquished.” A.F.Hayek

Thomas Sowell says, "People who say they want a government program because 'I don't want to be a burden to my children' apparently think it is all right to be a burden to other people's children."

He hits the nail on the head. In the old days the first person you turned to for help was yourself. Can I work harder or longer? Can I change what I do? Can I be better trained or educated to be more productive or efficient? If you couldn't help yourself, the next place you turned was your family (parents, siblings, children, relatives). If they couldn't help, you turned to your friends, your neighbors, your community, your employer, your church. You turned to charitable and benevolent organizations (who got their money from voluntary contributions, not forced taxes). You looked to your local government (township, city, county) for assistanc. Then to your state. The last place to turn to was the federal government. Today that has been turned completely on its head. The feds are the first place to come for a handout.

Distrust has been justified. Are you better off now than in January 2009? If you are, you're probably manufacturing something or other in China right now. Not that I blame the manufacturers. The climate in which to do business has deteriorated along with the general morale of the country. I can barely wait until 2012 to vote for ABTF. (Make up your own translation.)

What a great leading quote by GW!

"... either an unshakable contempt for the mind of the American voter or an as-yet unplumbed capacity for Democratic self-delusion."

Ahh, what about C - "All Of The Above"..?

The 14th Amendment states, in part: “…nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;...”

Can somebody explain to me, how the value of my property [explicitly the value of the money that I have in my bank accounts] can be taken from me by the Federal Reserve? Every dollar that is printed gets its “value” by stealing that “value” from the money that I own. Can anybody explain to me WHERE the “due process of law” is? Can anybody explain to me, as Andrew Jackson asked, where in the Constitution it says that the power of Section 8, the power “To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;” can be conveyed to ANYBODY! ESPECIALLY, a group of bankers whose names are not even a part of the public record? The print it, loan it to the Federal Government, to be paid back with interest....Where’s my cut?

Anybody......?

I believe that now more than ever, we need another Ronald Reagan to step up and run for President.

In my 77 years as a proud citizen of these United States of America and a Marine Patriot, I have never witnessed a worse president and his ignorant supporters. My experience goes back to WW11 and Roosevelt.

Let us hope the American public awakens to his planned distruction of our Republic before the 2012 election.

Clay Lawrence

Is it possible for the Patriot Post to commend the Freshmen Congressmen for holding the fort on capital hill to prevent recess appointments?

@ Bruce Wilson

Sir, You have my deepest sympathies that you are now dependent upon the federal government for your very existance. Unfortunately the government snookered you. You are about to become the victim of the world's biggest Ponzi scheme.

Uncle Sam did not save up and invest all those dollars you "contributed" so that he could give them back with interest. Your money was gone the day you gave it to the feds. Your social security check is being funded by my social security "contributions".

I'm not counting on getting $1 back in social security from the government when I retire. The way I see it, if I do actually get $1 (or more) back, that will just be gravy on top, but I won't allow myself and my family to become beholden to Uncle Sam to survive. Every time I got a pay raise, every time I got a bonus, I took part of it and saved it away. After 27 years of employement I'm to the point where I now invest 40% of my income for MY future. And, since I've been gradually increasing the amount I invest over all these years, I hardly even miss the money in my daily living expenses.

In 15 more years, when I'll be eligible for full social security "benefits" (assuming there are any to be had), I will have a very nice nest egg of MY money that I can live off of without forcing some worker in 2030 to pay for my existance.

I used to use the "dips" in the market as terrific buying opportunities. (When Sears has a half price sale, do you wait for the prices to go up again!) Sadly, I think that until the market stabilizes, those days are gone. I'm not a professional market advisor, since I've always relied on a few trade papers and gut instinct to influence my portfolio growth. I fervently hope that this unhappy market event will pass soon and people will be able to "take stock in America" once again.

The Tea Party...racists, astro-turf, tea-baggers, terrorists, Hobbits, hostage-takers...has been vindicated by the global money managers. The Tea Party said ‘enough of this spending and debt accumulation’. The money gurus shouted ‘Dittos’. The Tea Party pointed out that the Laws of Economics are not mitigated by access to a money-printing operation. The money gurus agreed. Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, and the Tea Party rubes, graduates of the College of Common Sense, were validated. Obama, Geithner, and the Ivy League crowd were proven wrong. The American ‘gravy train’ is about to be washed off the tracks by the approaching debt tsunami. Plunging stock prices and a downgraded national credit rating will soon be followed by hyperinflation. Trillions of dollars in wealth are going to get ‘washed away’.

It's time for the Tea Party to pick a National Leader and spokesperson and gear up to push the sorry Democrats out of the way. We need to prepare ourselves for an onslaught of rhetoric that places the blame for everything on us. We must meet this onslaught with truth and vigor. We need an honest response for every allegational lie that Obama will surely wheel out as the election nears. I would like to see that supreme jackass, Harry Reid, on the ropes for a change instead of listening to the inane drivel he spouts, and he needs to take that woman from the Land of Fruits and Nuts with him.

Bruce you are right on. it's not about the evil people making more than $250K and since when do people earning $250K are considered rich? The bigger issue is that the 50% who don't pay into the system are taking the most from it and then to top it off, they get credit in the way of cash for not earning anything. But it seems to be working for the Democrats and they won't tamper with it, because it gets them votes, illegal or otherwise. My candidate isn't even on the list, YET. Governor Rick Perry from Texas. Run rick run.

I think that Herman Cain has the proven track record and can put us back on track. and after we put the crooks in Jail we can have Tom Sowell as treasury sec. there are plenty of good solid tea party people to pick from.

If anyone is looking for a leader to lead them out of this nightmare we all are living called an out of control lying tyrannical government look no further. Walk into your bathroom and look into the mirror, there you will see the leaders our nation so desperately needs. Then come to the only realization left, are you willing to give the potential of the rest of your life so your children and their children can live free of governmental tyranny as envisioned by the founders of this country.

We fought a war of independence for much less assault on our rights and freedom than we face today from those transformational pukes that would wrestle control of your life, liberty and rights and replace with totalitarian dictates absent the liberty we hold so dear.

We are racing toward the very next step left to us.

Are you all ready for that?

I agree that Entitlements do suck a lot of resources, however the illegal use of our money for foreign aid ( which is not a constitutional use of our revenues ) is not even mentioned. Until those losers in D.C. confront this massive giv-away and all of the other funded unconstitutional Alphabet groups, we can tell they are NOT serious, and that includes the stalwart among them who talks "reduction in spending" but never quite gets to the particulars.

Bruce Wlson,

Sir, I surely empathize with your situation. As I can tell, you have done everything demanded from you by our government and have done your civic duty. However, we as a nation are where we are because of those who have come before. My generation has yet to really start taking charge (I'm 43) and your generation is still in the fray or retiring, so your generation has had a significant say in where we are at. We are going to crumble as a nation if we do not start steering the rudder on this massive battleship. You have been duped, just like every last one of us, and my generation and those which come after mine will pay for it all, whether it is through taxes or charity, but we will pay for it all. On our backs will the heavy burden fall. Your generation has had it good - and continues to have it good at our expense. We will not let our old people wander the streets and die in the gutters, but that's where my generation is headed. If the role of my generation is to pay for your generation's ease, then I guess that's going to happen, but posterity will remember long after we are all dead and will curse the heavy loads put upon their backs so that one generation could live so easily off the the backs of their children, grandchildren, great grandchildren, etc. History will look back on your generation with wonder at how well you lived and curse it because it was at the expense of everyone else if we can't fix it before it's too late.

It's obvious that this administration has learned nothing from history, or the words of wisdom from our founders.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." and "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." - Thomas Jefferson

On your mark!

Get set!

Go!

RUN PERRY RUN!!!

Maybe I am stupid but why on God's green earth is the taxpayers footing the bill for BHO come back tour? I don't remember if Bush did the same?? If anyone can give me the answer Please!

Just heard on the news that President Obama will be holding a press conference to discuss the tanking of Wall Street due to S&P's downgrade. Talk about adding gasoline to the fire!!! I bet he'll come out with the usual terms like "investment in infrastructure", "shovel-ready", etc., etc. Nothing like making a situation worse. Now, how about a resignation announcement? That would really inject confidence into the financial markets. Sorry, I was daydreaming.

fearls - If you like Henry Kissinger you will like Perry. They both want the New World Order. How do you say traitors?

This is the first step towards the outside world tells DC to get its act together!! This will not be the last step if they don't. China and Russia will be next in line to start forcing tough decisions. I want to make these decisions on our terms and our timing rather than outside forces dictating what, when ,and where. Do you think they will have any sympathy about entitlement programs? Not a chance, the freeloading has to stop and come to an end.

Sharing a pizza with my 10 yr. old grandson the other day, I was saddened by his tears and his question of how did we get in this mess and why is the debt falling on he and his generation. It broke my heart that a 10 yr. old boy should worry enough to be brought to tears over this. Beside that his Dad is unemployed and faced with the prospect of having to move from the country to the city in hope of finding employment and try to sell the home they just bought. Nov. 2012 can't come fast enough!

The government "of and by the people" will spend +/- $1,511,000,000,000 more in 2011 than it will take in ...

Since WE THE PEOPLE are ultimately responsible for the obligations incurred on our behalf by our elected federal representatives, WE THE PEOPLE (all of us - not some of us or our children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc.) should take personal responsibility for the revenue shortfall run up by our representatives last year.

The Bureau of Economic Analysis report tells us that the annualized personal income in the USA (wages, salary, adjusted rental income, interest and dividend income) currently totals +/- $11,550,600,000,000.

[http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/pi/2011/pdf/pi0611.pdf]

Since WE THE PEOPLE went to this "dance", WE THE PEOPLE should be willing to pay the entire tab.

To pay the entire 2011 tab, WE THE PEOPLE should demand a 13% deficit surcharge tax on every dollar of our personal income to retire the deficit incurred in 2011 and WE THE PEOPLE should be ready to demand ongoing deficit surcharges until the government "of and by the people" operates within its means each year.

Do you think that if we did the above, the size and scope of the federal government might change ... ?

How can we get Rick Perry to announce? In my opinion he is far and away our best hope.

I believe the time has come for the Patriot Post to start a "OBAMA to RESIGN petition. How can we let this monster to serve out his term? PLEASE, PLEASE start a petition for your followers to sign. It will definitely have a hug impact in showing the world Americans no longer want this monster to continue to run this beautiful country into the ground.

Fred Nelson

Rancho Cucamonga CA

The plain and simply truth, though there is quite a lot of still more democrat BS to illuminate, is that the democrats are the party that buys their votes. If democrats stopped buying votes who would vote for them. Where would Einsteins and Flemmings such as Kerry, Obama, and Palozi go to flash their brillance and save humanity.

Their real brillance, as they see themselves befor the full length mirror, is that they buy their votes with someone elses money. Just to sweeten their brillance, when their policy wrecks the economy and the country itself, they just blame the republicans, and of course now the tea party.

Where someone like John Kerry, after what he did durring the Veitnam war to hurt America and our GIs, gets the tamerity or the testicles to continue hurting America with his public disservice is something only God knows.

By the way did John ever pay the taxes on his 7 million dollar boat. I know he tried despritly to dodge and avoid paying them in the first place, then claimed he would but,I never heard he actually paid the taxes he owes. Thank you.

Federal Budget 101

The U.S. Congress sets a federal budget every year in the trillions of dollars. Few people know how much money that is so we created a breakdown of federal spending in simple terms. Let's put the 2011 federal budget into perspective:

• U.S. income: $2,170,000,000,000

• Federal budget: $3,820,000,000,000

• New debt: $ 1,650,000,000,000

• National debt: $14,271,000,000,000

• Recent budget cut: $ 38,500,000,000 (about 1 percent of the budget)

It helps to think about these numbers in terms that we can relate to. Let's remove Eight Zeros from these numbers and pretend this is the household budget for the fictitious Jones family.

• Total annual income for the Jones family: $21,700

• Amount of money the Jones family spent: $38,200

• Amount of new debt added to the credit card: $16,500

• Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710

• Amount cut from the budget: $385

So in effect last month Congress, or in this example the Jones family, sat down at the kitchen table and agreed to cut $385 from its annual budget. What family would cut $385 of spending in order to solve $16,500 in deficit spending?

It is a start, although hardly a solution.

Now after years of this, the Jones family has $142,710 of debt on its credit card (which is the equivalent of the national debt).

You would think the Jones family would recognize and address this situation, but it does not. Neither does Congress.

The root of the debt problem is that the voters typically do not send people to Congress to save money. They are sent there to bring home the bacon to their own home state.

To effect budget change, we need to change the job description and give Congress new marching orders.

It is awfully hard (but not impossible) to reverse course and tell the government to stop borrowing money from our children and spending it now.

In effect, what we have is a reverse mortgage on the country. The problem is that the voters have become addicted to the money. Moreover, the American voters are still in the denial stage, and do not want to face the possibility of going into rehab.

Your Title for this article is quite true and to the point,the new 'standard' will be POOR for EVERYBODY!!!!!!

Bill B. - excellent - of course, Congress did not pass an FY11 budget...

"Honor him"???? I and the majority of thinking people in this country despise the lying clown!!!

After 3 weeks in in the British Commonwealth, I can say it's good to be back home. You think we have problems, Europe, well half of it, has problems, so be thankful you live here. On FOX and friends, yes we get it over there, well we did but R.M. owns it so it's poison.

They had 3 reasons for downgrading.

1. Debt, to high

2. Political dysfunction/gridlock. This they blame on not the GOP, DNC, but you've guess it.

3. No balance approach, ie: cut spending and raise revenue. The last is unspecified.

This all started about 9 years ago when we funded a war and kept it off the books, deregulated the finance industry then Bush had to bail them out. I read a lot of complaints about Stimulus. Bush tried it.

Please, please please start a petition. Good, vote the president out and who takes over? The VP. Now, why don't you start a petition? It only takes one to be a decisive leader.

I've read the DNC buys votes with someone elses money. Both sides do it. We are better than that.

Balance budget? I am all for it, most people in Europe are for it but think about it. what if MO gets hit by another EF 5. Do we do the Cantor approach? No money, sorry Perry, nor money for your fires unless met with equal cuts. There has to be a provision encase of emergency. I look at it this way. I am fishing and I see a hurricane coming. I signed a pledge to fish. Do I set on my boat and die for I signed a pledge or do I use a little common sense and get off the ocean? Now both of them is big government as defined by the Tea Party so the above is mute.

What I'm saying is, do you want small government, if you do, don't hold your hand out for help, or do you want help? One cannot have it both ways?

What I'm saying is this nation will go into a great depression and we're about everything except how to save it.

To sign a pledge of no birth control does nothing to fix our problem. I've harped on Morality. We cannot legislate morality. We want to but this will kill us faster than the debt crises. The birth control as pushed by the Rep from Iowa and FOX news I find intriguing for we can't feed out own people so let's have more. Let's push the Perry Plan for after all we lost 1 special election and 14 others as a direct result of it.

I may be harsh today but I've came back from 3 weeks in Europe. We can fix us. It may take a few years but we can. They wish they are us, they are in bad shape. We may be on the ropes but we are still the worlds leader, remember it and let's act like we are the leaders and bring the jobs home.

Take a lesson from Wisc. They didn't vote the will of the people, now 4 of them may be recalled,maybe all 6. The DNC will keep there other 2 seats. Take a lesson from our dysfunctional Congress and Senate. 7.3 to 1 and 8.2 to one said do this and vote this way, and for the sake of ideological purity, they didn't and FOX says, they are doing the will of the people. Really? GOv walker is in a serious way for he believed his back was covered and to heck with the will of the people. When he admitted Union stripping did nothing to save the budget to lower it, he made a tactical mistake. th question isn't about ideological purity, I hate the DNC, the question is about the people, the will of the people.

The bottom line, we had 2 incompetent presidents, we voted them in. Now we are going to pay for the short sightedness. Push for a logical balance budget amendment, do what's right for the nation, as a collective whole.

Not paying taxes. I have a friend who paid no taxes. Her made 750.000.00 last year and hired no one, he bought a mansion. I paid taxes. Give me break. Close the loopholes and everyone pays there fair share.

A substantial portion of the pension for those retired from military service and the federal government is tied to Social Security. The only "choice" any laborer, including military and federal employees, had regarding their pension was to pay FICA taxes and suplement their pension with other investments. Some media report decadent pensions for federal employees. Curiously never observed in 35 years. Military do not receive anything close to lucrative pension. Gov employee unions no use to gov employees - scrap them now.

Should explore fesability of gradual reduction of Social Security. Sudden stop with no pensions to those who carried burden for years is not right. If necessary and implemented, sudden stop more than difficult, probably deadly to some, and cruel to most. Time for drastic, perhaps revolutioary steps now. At least Constitutional Amendments must be considered seriously, and with utmost haste.

Our liberal politicians seem to have developed an acute borderline personality and obsessive/compulsive disorders.

Only someone with this disorder could project the blame on others (i.e., Tea Party) for their own bad habits.

So the Tea Party is to blame the obsessive and compulsive out of control spending in Washington?

First, if I remember right, they attacked conservatives because they were the religious and gun clinging nuts, with tendencies for extremism and bigotry. Now, it is the tea party's time in the liberal's ‘shameful’ spot light.

How long does anyone suppose the liberals will continue to beat that dead horse? I understand as long as they can label anyone that is against them or their policies as terrorists, extremists, and anti-American, they will never accept personal responsibility for their actions.

Is that the same National Review denouncing the debt limit deal the same National Review that supported it a week ago and denounced conservatives who disagreed with the deal before it passed?

Re: RK Sprau,

"Take a lesson from Wisc. They didn't vote the will of the people, now 4 of them may be recalled, maybe all 6."

Not sure where you get your information, but they did vote the will of the people. They were voted into their respective congress by the people in 2008 because of liberal democrat failures, out of control spending, out of control union power, and a host of other ills.

Next you’ll say, as Obama and Biden did, that the Tea Party politicians were terrorists, because they couldn't have been doing the "will of the people," could they? If not, who voted them in? Was it a conspiracy?

The only reason those politicians may be recalled, is because union supported money is and has been flowing into the state from liberal groups around the country because their feelings were hurt.

Please check your facts about doing the will of the people before making remarks like that.

Bill B. - excellent - of course, Congress did not pass an FY11 budget...

To reduce the debt: Eliminate the Department of Energy, HUD, reduce the EPA by 1/2, privatize the US Post Office, time to withdraw from Afghanistan, concentrate our forces in Iran in the Kurd area, reduce foreign aid to those who are our enemies ie., PLO. Require drug tests in order to receive welfare checks, pel grants, etc. Furlough non-cricial federal workers one day a month. Spend money on free scholarships for engineering, science degrees but require 4 years of government lab work upon graduation, rebuild the military infrastructure.

I,ve spent my entire life only wanting the good of my children to remain sustained.All I have taught them since their birth was in vain. they are now growing their children in a miserable unsure day to day united states,what a waste of generations.Thanks a lot America for defeating all our purposes and fighting foreign wars for people who won,t give us the time of day and laugh at our stupidity daily.If you dont think theres a God,you sure better be right.

The Huffington Post published a copy of Rick Perry’s college transcript a few days ago, supposedly saying Perry earned D’s in several organic chemistry classes and C’s in general chemistry and physics.

The Huff & Puff report said many of Perry’s other classes involved military education. Perry reportedly got two C’s in Development of Air Power, and in four levels of World Military Systems, earned two C’s, a B and an A.

It was reported the A was one of only two Perry earned at college — the other was for a class called Improv. of Learning.

Hey! In Improv. of Learning, in the chapter, Learning how to win electuions, Perry must have excelled. He has yet to lose one.

I'd sure recommend liberals take that Improv. of Learning class. But I'd believe the Professor would have to grade on the 'curve' system though, to get the class in the D range.

On the Mark! Get Set! Ready! Go! – RUN PERRY RUN!!!

A Modern Tale of Two Cities - Washington DC & Mainstream USA

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age

of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the

season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the Spring of hope, it was the

Winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were are all

going directly to Heaven, we were all going directly to Hell -- in short the period was so

far like the present period, that some of its noisiest Washington DC bureaucrats insisted

on its being received, for good or evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.

There was a pompous President with soaring rhetoric, a very pampered First Lady and

Regal members of Congress in Washington DC; and there were the rank and file

mainstream citizens in the USA. In both areas it was clearer than crystal to the

Washington DC Lords of the State that things were settled for ever.

It was the year of Our Lord two thousand and eleven. The USA rolled with exceedingly

smoothness down hill, making paper money and spending it. Under the authority of the

Washington DC Federal Reserve and Legislative Bureaucrats: Income & Wealth

Redistribution, Increased Food Stamp and Unemployment Payment Distributions; Bank,

Wall Street, Housing & Auto Bailouts; Economic Stimulus, Earmarks, Cash for Clunkers,

and a Federal Takeover of the Health Care System were all initiated and drove the USA

into bankruptcy.

But the rank and file mainstream Citizens of the USA, though they work & live silently,

and no one heard them as they went about with muffled tread: the rather, forasmuch as to

entertain any suspicion that they were awake, was to be atheistically and traitorous.

All these things, and thousands like them, will come to pass and close upon the dear

old Election Date of November 6, Two Thousand and Twelve. Environed by them, while

the rank and file mainstream Citizens of the USA worked and lived unheeded, and carried

their Divine rights endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among

these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. Thus did the year two thousand and

twelve conduct their Greatness, and myriads of small creatures - the creatures of this

chronicle among the rest - along the roads that lay before them.

A Tale of Two Cities - Washington DC & Mainstream USA.wps

BO still has his AAA sshole rating. When is he going to get down graded?

Re: American Patriot. thank you for your input. There is 2 sides to every issue. I go by facts. They tried to recall all six DNC, only got 3 on the ballet, one election was held and he soundly defeated the GOP challenger.

Now as for the will of the people. If oyu campaign on A,b,c, then do d,e,f, it will rile up those who are entrenched. As fort facts, if it was the will of the peole then they couldn't garner enough signatures in red districts to do anything much less by the margin they got them.

I agree with Bill Momeno.

What I have a problem with is, we as a culture have this, we believe anything goes as long as it is done in the proper mindset. This goes against our sense, (what's left of it, fair play.)

As for terrorists, get over it, for Mitch McConnell Sen, Ky, stated So the bottom line from the Senate Republican leader is this: The Tea-GOP won’t let Congress raise the debt limit unless we impose hundreds of billions in Medicare cuts.

So the bottom line from the Senate Republican leader is this: The Tea-GOP won’t let Congress raise the debt limit unless we impose hundreds of billions in Medicare cuts.

I can go on. right, wrong, indifferent but with inflamed rhetoric to include what I posted a few days ago what he said it was a good thing to hold the debt ceiling hostage," it doesn't matter to the outsider who is right, for to them it is a highly dysfunctional government.

I've always said, pick the fights you can win but rhetoric from both sides of the isle will only send us into a depression.

f you disagree, show me the error of my ways and on a serious note, I pray I am wrong.

Perry had the correct idea, pray for the nation. This is what we should do, pray for our nation and do it in the spirit of ISA 58.

A Proposal of US Constitutional Amendment for Monetary and Taxation Reform

The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

The Congress shall make No Debt for this Union, or the several States, lest the monies be appropriated for the common defense, the exigencies of natural disaster, insurrection, invasion, or of War declared by Congress.

Money IS, and ought, and Shall Be the Common Currency of exchange for Commerce, Trade, and Law; the Common Denominator of the Commons Property; One of the fixed - Standard of Weights and Measures, metes and bounds, of the Common Wealth of We The People of the United States of America, and- All, Each, and None, of the People - Own the Money coined and issued in our Name, our Full Faith and Credit. The Dollar is the Legal Tender Money of these United States, and upon authority of Congress, all denominations shall be issued by the Treasury. The Money, by denominations, possessed of each Person is equal; having the same consistent regulated value thereof.

Each Person, and Citizen, or Inhabitant: Possesses Stewardship, as though they shall Own, and for their exclusive purpose until use, that Money having been obtained by neither force or fraud, which is upon their own Person, or is otherwise in their possession, or on deposit in their own Name at any bona fide federal or State chartered financial institution. And any or all such Money shall Not be seized, lest due process as proscribed by the fourth, sixth, seventh, thirteenth, and fourteenth articles of amendment to this Constitution; shall have been adjudicated. And no Person upon sole reason of accumulative debt shall be deprived of life or liberty.

Each Person or Entity, within the federal jurisdiction, is subject to, the Legal Tender User Fee; to be used as federal revenue for Constitutional enumerated purpose. Each of the several States; may assess and collect in like manner, a Legal Tender User Fee, not to exceed the federal collection of each like transaction, to be used as State revenue for Constitutional purpose. The Fee, of three percent, is assessed and collected from both the Buyer and the Seller equally, total six per cent per transaction, at the time and place of any recorded transaction which shall exceed two dollars; except upon transactions of Demand Accounts on deposit at any financial institution, and others exempt for Persons, as defined by Law: for Sustenance, Charity, Care, Pension, and Tithe. And upon any transaction, which shall be final after periodic payment transfers with interest; the Fee will be assessed and collected only upon the amount of and at the time and place of each periodic transfer.

Of all transactions, the federal government, shall receive the Fee portion of Five and one Half per cent, and shall retain the Fee portion of one Half percent of such Money in private Investments for present or later supplemental application to the Care and Pension of all Citizens: retired, disabled, and feeble. And the Seller in all transactions shall receive a collection stipend of one Half per cent and shall retain the Fee portion of such Money in private Investments for present or later supplemental application to the Care and Pension of all employees: active and retired. The federal government urges each Inhabitant to obtain private Investments, wherein deposits, shall be free of any Fee or other Tax, for present or later supplemental application to the Care and Pension of: themselves, their dependents or heirs.

The Coining and issuance of Money, the grant of credit upon reasonable terms, and the ways and means to operate federal policy; being essential to Commerce, Trade, and Law; the Congress shall have sole un-delegated power, to regulate the standard Measure of interest by Class, Collateral, or Period, and the calendar Measure of periodic payment intervals upon borrowed money; and to affix the appropriations of money for expenditure from the Treasury.

The House of Representatives, by annual resolution –a majority simple plus three- shall have sole un-delegated power, to determine the quantity of coin and currency issued as legal tender Money from the Treasury, and regulate the consistent value thereof, to be used as federal revenue and appropriated to Constitutional purpose. The quantity to be issued based: upon growth of population- calculated as necessary life subsistence for each new Inhabitant, the growth of economic productivity- calculated as additional gross domestic product, and the interest charged upon borrowed money within federal jurisdiction- calculated as the current annual quantitative money amount of collected interest.

The Congress shall appropriate annually, Money sufficient to pay the Interest service, and an amount equal to two per cent of the total Interest service to be paid upon the National Debt. The President, annually; may propose to the House of Representatives for Congress to consider, such rules and regulations framed by the Departments, which -he shall deem necessary and proper to be made Law, and such expenditures from the Treasury as -he shall deem requisite and responsible for Constitutional purpose.

The Congress shall Not increase Fee or Tax, either by quantity, forms, rates, or percentile; Nor increase the Measures of Interest charged upon borrowed Money whether by Class, Collateral, or Period, -Nor Borrow money sufficient to exceed the current debt service in time of peace; lest these be passed by two thirds of the members of the House of Representatives and by two thirds of the members of the Senate in separate session, and a subsequent vote of three fifths of the State delegations of both Houses in Joint session, each delegation having One Vote; except no increase of Fee or Tax shall be passed for a Term longer than six years.

Today in his Press Conference, The Resident (of the White House) said ," the United States will always be AAA rated." He is in denial or is delusional.

Bruce Wilson wrote; "Thomas Sowell misses the point on SSA. I am 73 years old and paid the maximum amount into SSA for over 30 years. We were told that "our money" would be paid back to us at retirement. I planned my retirement around having that income."

So? You voted for that ponzi scheme (through your representatives), you allowed it to continue, you said and did nothing as they took your precious "set-aside" and dumped it into the general fund, and now it's clear that you will not have your "Nest Egg". So What? You were robbed! How do you figure that it's then fair to rob ME to pay it back? I'm not getting My money (at 50) either, and I STILL have to pay into this black hole KNOWING that I'll never get it back either. So stop your whining! You brought this on yourself!

Just read where Greenspan has brought an old joke to life: I must have money in the bank, I still have check!

Greenspan has updated to; we have a printing press.

NO RINOs or Jackasses in 2012!

For some of us the realization of what has happened has not set in, we see this in the media that shows when they open their mouths they have no clue. I for one would like to offer a word of encouragement. We the providers are strong, the private sector that is. We seldom get praise for being strong, now days with the entire make believe crisis, one after the other. Yes make believe crisis I said and for this reason. To steer or nudge a populous one would need to instill a fear instead of the truth of what is happening. Did you ever think that the debt is not from the Americans that work for a living, but those (Congress and the lazy) who have learned to work the vote to obtain themselves a living off those who earn? These undesirables are scared that the providers, those that create the GDP will figure this out. Have you figured this out? We the people, that life blood that energizes America are strong; never forget that, you are strong together with the strength of the whole. The government, or Corporation of the United States, is not America, the founders knew that in the documents they wrote, and let us know how to protect ourselves from an over reaching oppressing government corporation.

The answer is simple to this scenario; think about what made this country great. Integrity, morals, and values of a just people, WE THE PEOPLE, who follow the rules of engagement. We have this in us, let’s show them all what integrity is and do the right thing, by the law, for this great nation of ours.

And yes, I am honored to live in this great "nation under God," of ours!

"Our natural, unalienable rights are now considered to be a dispensation of government, and freedom has never been so fragile, so close to slipping from our grasp as it is at this moment." --Ronald Reagan How eerily applicable to our present perilous position. And those were the good, ol’ days compared to the current Executive-Legislative-Judicial regime.

Howard Last - I'm positive I'd like Kissinger's and Perry's type of New World Order better than I'd like Obama's type of New World Order.

And I'd venture to say we would all survive longer under Kissinger and Perry than under Obama.

Witness the coverage of the gang of black on white racial attacks in Wisconsin, either minimized or sanitized of racial words. Witness the top billing of a white on black predatory killing on CNN.

Now ponder the potential racially charged events when Obama is defeated in Nov 2012.

Get a good mental picture?

Prepare yourself and your loved ones.

Not since Jimmy Carter have I seen a President so out of touch with the common American than Obama. It's either a lack of understanding, or, a conspiracy to deceive and frustrate. Suddenly jobs are his number one focus, again! Well no one is listening to his shallow promises any longer, at least those with enough common sense to smell a rat.

The recent S&P "downgrade" is nonsense.

What did S&P do in 1933, when the US government defaulted on its promise to pay gold at the rate of 1 ounce per $20.67 of paper, offering instead 1 ounce per $35 of paper, a default of almost 50%?

What did S&P do in 1971, when the US government defaulted entirely on its promise to pay gold?

Alan Greenspan was quoted on the radio this morning to the effect that the US government can always print as much paper as it needs to pay off its other paper.

As the government of Greece must pay its debts not in Greek paper but in Euros - and cannot print Euros - the situation is different there.

"As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." I believe it was Joshua who made this statement when things were at a crossroads for the Children of Israel. Americans need to realize that our nation was GIVEN to us by God Almighty; we cannot, must not allow Christ to be "banned", "dismissed", "outlawed", or "legislated out" of our country and our lives. We must take a stand, draw a line in the sand. Enough is enough. "If God be for us, who can be against us?" I applaud Gov. Perry and all who were able to stand with him in Houston. It would be nice to see MORE "LEADERS" actually LEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a novel idea~~

Obama democrat minions like Senator John Kerry and buzz-tsar White House press secretary Jim Carney have no difficulty looking American citizens straight in the eye, tell them that the TEA Party is the cause of the S&P credit downgrade as well as the 1,000 + point drop of the DJIA, and with the gall of Baghdad Bob, metaphorically ask them who are you gonna believe, me our your own lyin' eyes? To them, it's obvious that those Americans who have made themselves known as the TEA Party have let the cat out of the bag by showing to the S&P and the entire world that we are NOT united by the increasing debt status quo, and by fighting for an ACTUAL decrease in the debt instead of ACTUAL increase in spending AND the debt have thus CAUSED the crisis. I believe that in psychiatric circles this is known as denial, and in political circles as typical democrat bulls...! This should come as no surprise, of course, as democrats have no realistic or functional options to reverse our debt and for the last 70 years or so have made a living out of pulling the bull over the eyes of American citizens.

So in the next election, America, who are you gonna believe? The democrats or your own lyin' eyes?

Re: RK Sprau

A succinct, accurate reporting of Wisconsin, how Republican came to power, and the communist minded union thugs pouring money from around the nation into the state to defeat republicans.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/09/recall-elections-to-determine-wisconsin-senate-control/

Pretty much sums up socialist liberals and their adolescent, kicking, screaming, childish fits they exhibit when they lose at something.

The adminitrations efforts to keep blame off of themselves by blaming other entities (Bush, the Tea Party, radical conservatives) is well founded in Alinsky's tactics. If you look at the communists/socialists in a historical perspective, you will see that it was easy for those philosophies to gain a foothold in what amounts to third world, under-edcated countries. Czarist Russia with a vast peasnt population at the early 20th century, Venezuala, Cuba, and other under-developed nations around the globe. Eastern Europe was just a bonus to communism after WWII, handed over in a division of conquered lands. The Socialist/Alinsky doctrine still holds that control of the education system in a country is key to taking over power, and they are correct in this. Take a look at our own public education system and the control that unions have there. I am of the opinion that the President is bent on the financial destruction of this nation in ordere to fundamentally change it. I noticed an advertisemnet on televiosion the other day featuring one of the lefts main protaginists, MSNBC's Ed Schultz. He was advocating that the manufacturing sector now needs a similar bail-out that was afforded to Wall Street and the banking industry. It would only be fair, he argues. Of course, it would mean that more buisness would be, if not outright owned ny the government, then at least beholden to the government.

So much for Obama's Arizona call for civility. The gloves are off. Those who call for fiscal responsibility, REAL spending cuts vs. phony cuts as Mark Steyn points out, and calls attention to the Emporer's new clothes, are "hostage takers", terrorists, jihadists, tea-baggers, insane, bizarro (hat tip to VP Biden) and responsible for the "debt crisis" and the credit downgrade. Those who have voted for every tax increase, spending deal, stimulus plan, pork barrel project, and any other government boondoggle that came down the pike, while refusing to consider mundane constraints like budgets, are reasonable and offer balanced solutions. Obama, Biden, Kerry, Carney, Schumer, et al are the ones in the "bizarro" world in the original Superman comics context, their comments bear them out.

So now that the civility gauntlet has been thrown down and the verbal jousting has begun, this should embolden lovers of liberty and opponents of tyranny to be even more outspoken. After all, what are they going to do? Call you names?

Somewhere around 240 years ago the British were calling the Tea Partiers terrorists. Look where that got the British.

RE: American Patriot Let mew tighten up my rhetoric. I concur with your last post. I also see both sides are pulling out from the bag of dirty tricks. It's not the name calling, the tricks, it's I know the core of the Tea Party is so much better than that. Why let a few no-gooders tarnish ones good name? I know FOX news talking points, I know MSNBC's talking points. I watch Fox and Friends and the Five On MSNBC I watch someone I use to loathe, Al Sharpton for he has an undereducated yet sharp black and white view.

What is at the core is spiritual/family issues. You have a rep on FOX who owes 119.000.00 in back child support. FOX downplays it. He had a almost daily platform on MSNBC until they dropped him for saying one thing and not caring about child support. Is this the face we want to show the world?to Fox, who cares for he has a fiery anti Oboma rhetoric, to the rest of the world, they're hypercritical.

I still say what is happening today is a microcoms of what 2012 will be. I still say, why fight a fight if you have the will of the people on your side.

To Hamilton: having said the above agree with my analysis or not, we may be, strike it, we will be the next England. they cut social programs and now they are teetering on civil war. Hungry desperate people will do anything to eat. It's human nature. Now add in there alleged racism as a catalyst...

there bottom line is a week economy, no jobs and lets starve the poor. This is how they view it.

This is why I said I hope I'm wrong but we might be in a civil war. This is why I said, pray for this country and I';m afraid given the current hardline stance on all sides, it might be to late.

A civil war won't be a right verses left, it will be over food, shelter, clothes, medicine, transportation.

One may say Wisc is left verses right, our freedoms as they perceive them verses overreach. The subconscious is jobs, medicine, security. Now with a re-push of the Ryan plan, all it does right now is add fear to the general populace.

I've read, see what it got the British in respects to the Tea Party. Allow me to turn the tables and say, what can we learn from modern Britain instead of slapping ourselves on the back over something that happened over 200 years ago. change must be gradual not radical for people hate change. Never set yourself up for a civil war, never pull out the T. Jef.. card and say a little revolution is a good thing. When most people think of Tea Party, they think of that. They also think of, if you don't like how your Rep voted, shoot them. YOU are better than they are.

Morning Glory has the answer. This is what we should consider, Be a Prayer Warrior I leave you with what I use to teach in class:

Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and declare unto my people their transgression, and to the house of Jacob their sins.

Isa 58:2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that doeth righteousness, and hath not forsaken the ordinance of their God; they ask of me the ordinances of righteousness, they take delight in approaching to God:

Isa 58:3 --Wherefore have we fasted, and thou seest not; have afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find what pleaseth you , and exact all your labours.

Isa 58:4 Behold, ye have fasted for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness; ye do not at present fast, to cause your voice to be heard on high.

Isa 58:5 Is such the fast that I have chosen, a day for a man to afflict his soul, --that he should bow down his head as a bulrush, and spread sackcloth and ashes under him ? Wilt thou call this a fast, and a day acceptable to Jehovah?

Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast which I have chosen: to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the thongs of the yoke, and to send forth free the crushed, and that ye break every yoke?

Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring to thy house the needy wanderers; when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

Hold on a minute. When I was in Washington D.C.(on 8/28) the PUPPETMASTER's Media called us a "handful of Crackpots, uh, maybe only about a hundred" of us Americans standing there shoulder to shoulder in the opressive heat of the day, listening to Glenn Beck. Question, how could a handful of uh, about a hundred crackpots mess up the "Economy of the most powerful nation on planet Earth"? We have no power, no one to lobby for us.We are all just air heads and crackpots. I call us PATRIOTS. It would be my honor to throw the FIRST case of Tea into the Harbor."Taxation without ADAQUATE COMPETANT REPRESENTATION is TYRANNY".

The acid tongued likes of Kerry, Krugman, Axelrod, Dean, Biden, et al are reviling the Tea Party for calling for the return of sanity and fiscal responsibility in our federal government.No name is really off limits for these folks, and no lie is too outrageous to be spoken on the air waves. So much for the return of civility in the wake of the Gabby Giffords tragedy. If it weren't for the Tea Party, nobody would have pressed the issue of out of control spending and we would have continued along our merry way, marching toward the precipice of default. Even though the so called spending cuts aren't really cuts at all, these "Progressives" know their messiah is in the process of being neutered, the spending spree is coming to an end, and the Democratic party is next in line to take a hit. This also applies to Republicans who continue to play fast and loose with our tax dollars. Party loyalty should not blind the voters to the fiscal misadventures or some of our less thrifty Republican brethren. These so called "Progressives" in the Democratic Party are nothing more than a bunch of spoiled children who resort to vitriol and name calling when they no longer can have their way.

It is a character trait that runs deep and wide among them.

When playing “Tug-of-War” it is common for the flag to move little when opposing teams are pulling with the equal strength. Historically Democrats have insisted Republicans compromise which they were happy to do time and again. Inevitably the flag has moved a long way in the Democrat’s favor. In 2010 the citizens spoke with their vote – “We want a fiscally responsible and smaller government”.

During the continuing resolution and the debt ceiling debates we saw a small number of determined freshmen representatives resisting the Democrat’s pull. “Tea Partiers” aren’t obstructionists, but rather “Resisters”, resisting the growth of government. Because of this small but stronger representation on the conservative side of the “Rope”, Democrats are no longer easily winning the tug-of-war.

In 2012 it is crucial we elect people who will add strength to the conservative side of the “Rope”. If a few strong and principled people can slow the trend towards more spending and bigger government, then with a few more like these we can overcome those whose policies are preventing America from being a great and prosperous nation. We can move the flag our way and preserve our great nation, our liberties and freedoms. It’s ours to lose.

of course the US credit rating was downgraded.... ( what ever you think of the rating agency) Congress just told the world we won't stop spending deeper into a hole.

That's an investment I can't wait to jump on.

RE: RE: RK Sprau

As I said my friend, the will and votes of the people were heard, AGAIN, in Wisconsin!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/10/wisconsin-gop-holds-off-democrats-in-recall-elections/

Looking forward to your comment now?

08/13/11

The TEA PARTY PEOPLE,SHOULD BE REFERED TOO,THE

TRUE AND ORIGINAL CONSTTUTION PARTY.WHEN YOU HEAR

THOSE WHO WOULD DOWN-GRADE THEM LIKE JOHN KERRY

WILL.VIETNAM ERA RAT TURNCOAT!!!