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Wednesday, December 14, 2011
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"Our properties within our own territories [should not] be taxed or regulated by any power on earth but our own." --Thomas Jefferson
Editorial Exegesis
Kyoto: An economically destructive treaty based on lies"The headlines say the representatives at the United Nations climate conference in South Africa reached an agreement. But the real story is that the meeting only produced an agreement to start more talks on a deal to replace the Kyoto Protocol by 2015 with emissions limits that won't be in effect until 2020. Despite the uncertainty of such a proposition, one official, Maite Nkoana-Mashabane, South Africa's foreign minister, nevertheless had the nerve to claim 'We have saved planet Earth for the future of our children and our great-grandchildren.' Apparently she's forgotten that the alarmists have said that global warming must be solved now -- that Prince Charles traveled to Rio de Janeiro 33 months ago and lamented that the world had 'less than 100 months' to save itself. ... So why bother with framing a treaty that won't start until 2020? Won't that be too late? It's never too late, though, to continue scaring the public in hopes it will eventually give in and follow the alarmists and their asinine ideas. ... In the absence of such a deal, some conference representatives proposed a global climate court of justice that would let climate change 'victims' force the rich, top carbon dioxide-producing countries to pay up. Jonathan Verschuuren, a professor of international and European environmental law writing for Radio Netherlands, assures us that 'a climate court will certainly not materialize' because 'the world's industrialized countries have more sense than that.' Yes, the industrialized nations should have more sense than that. But do they? ... What if, for instance, voters re-elect President Obama and turn Congress back to the Democrats, and the British bring back the Labor Party? If so, an international climate court isn't so unlikely, is it? With the science incomplete, corrupt scientists, the alarmists exaggerating the case and the socialists itching to collect from all, a climate court could do more damage to the U.S. than the Axis powers ever could." --Investor's Business Daily
Essential Liberty
"The United States possesses 1.4 trillion barrels of recoverable oil, more than the oil the entire world has consumed during the past 150 years, according to an Institute for Energy Research report released last week. Add in an estimated 2.7 quadrillion cubic feet of recoverable natural gas and 486.1 billion short tons of recoverable coal, and our energy reserves exceed those of any other nation on Earth. The American economy will not prosper until we get government out of the way and let the private sector power our future using the most efficient sources available. For that to happen, the next administration must reject any redistributionist U.N. treaty designed to soak billions from U.S. taxpayers based on bogus climate claims." --The Washington Times
Upright
"[Last] Wednesday, Politico ran a story about the International Association of Machinists Union at Boeing agreeing to approve a contract extension.... Democrats, including Obama administration Attorney General Eric Holder ... abhor the idea of making voters bring some form of photo identification to the polls. Yet the IAM ... required a photo ID of all who wished to vote in a contract ratification election. ... [T]he photo-ID requirement in the union's elections would appear to be far from an isolated instance. Gosh, I wonder why? At some point during all these years of covering the voter-ID issue, you would think that someone in the press, much of which is unionized ... would have noted that unions at least occasionally and likely far more than occasionally require that members present a photo ID to be able to cast their ballots. Nope. How typically irresponsible." --NewsBusters contributing editor Tom Blumer
"In the end, last week's meeting of Eurozone leaders produced nothing more than an agreement to produce an agreement. ... Yet amidst the general ineptitude, there was one defining moment: British Prime Minister David Cameron rejected the deal. Apparently one leader in Europe still believes in the idea of national sovereignty. ... Yet who is kidding whom? Despite all the pie-in-the-sky pronouncements, coupled with threats of 'isolation' aimed at Britain for daring to resist the 'superior wisdom' of EU elitists, nothing has been done to address the immediate liquidity crisis affecting both European banks and governments. The ultimate arbiter of this latest agreement will be the worldwide markets, specifically the bond markets. They will ultimately reveal whether investors, as they were last Friday, can be sold yet another pig in a poke masquerading itself as yet another grand bargain." --columnist Arnold Ahlert
"Some politicians claim that politicians create jobs. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says, 'My job is to create jobs.' What hubris! Government has no money of its own. All it does is take from some people and give to others. That may create some jobs, but only by leaving less money in the private sector for job creation. Actually, it's worse than that. Since government commandeers scarce resources by force and doesn't have to peddle its so-called services on the market to consenting buyers, there's no feedback mechanism to indicate if those services are worth more to people than what they were forced to go without. The only people who create real, sustainable jobs are in private businesses -- if they're unsubsidized." --columnist John Stossel
Insight
"There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly." --American author and poet Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
"There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of law and in the name of justice." --Charles de Montesquieu (1689-1755)
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The Demo-gogues
A sad case for re-election: "The reason they still support me is because they understand what an incredible mess had been made as I was coming into office, and we've been spending the last three years cleaning it up. The good news is that the economy is starting to strengthen. We've seen some positive signs. The unemployment rate has ticked down." --Barack Obama
Fairy tales: "Millionaire job creators are like unicorns: They're impossible to find and don't exist." --Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV)
Government as Santa: "Christmas is coming. ... We've got to put money into the pockets of the American people -- the payroll tax cut, unemployment benefits extending -- and we cannot go home unless we do. ... It's not about where we have our Christmas dinner. It's about if the American people are going to have a Christmas dinner that they can pay for with some level of comfort." --House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Left-theology: "I want to be judged as a good and faithful servant, and therefore, I will stand with my Democratic colleagues on these issues and stay here until we do take care of those who are considered the least of these. And I can't believe as we are in the season of advent, the celebration of the birth of our Savior. He came, yes to bring salvation, but also to bring equity and justice into the world, that we would be so heartless and unChristian. It goes against the precepts of all religions and even every human value that we would end unemployment insurance." --Rep. Donna Christenson (D-Virgin Islands), arguing that Christian tenants of individuals caring for the poor are actually government responsibilities
Propaganda: "The message I have for climate deniers is this: you are endangering humankind. It is time for climate deniers to face reality, because the body of evidence is overwhelming and the world's leading scientists agree. ... Problems do not go away by pretending they do not exist. And the longer that vocal minority insists on keeping their heads in the sand, the more it endangers billions of people around the globe and threatens to dramatically and negatively reshape the world as we know it." --Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Over the top: "They have attached a poison pill -- literally, colleagues -- because it will kill 8,100 more people more than would have otherwise been killed from pollution. So have that for a Christmas gift." --Barbara Boxer on Republicans trying to roll back a Clean Air Act provision
Fast and loose with statistics: "That is simply not true [that unemployment has risen since Obama took office]. In fact, unemployment has now dropped below 9 percent. It's continuing to drop." --DNC chief and Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) (Unemployment was under 8 percent when Obama took office.)

Dezinformatsia
Belly Laugh of the Week: "You gave up a lot. You said you wanted a balanced approach. You didn't get it. You cut a trillion dollars and set up the framework to cut another trillion plus, and the Republicans gave up nothing. ... It seems to be all the compromising is being done by you." --CBS's Steve Kroft to Barack Obama
Defending class warfare by denying it exists: "People are accusing [Barack Obama] now of class warfare. It seems a bit trite to say that, because in any kind of society where you have this kind of financial meltdown, isn't it instinctively the right thing to do that the rich should contribute a little bit more to the recovery than those with no money?" --CNN's Piers Morgan
Newspulper Headlines:
If Only Herman Cain Were There to Remind Him: "Rick Perry Forgot How Many Supreme Court Justices There Are" --TheAtlanticWire.com
Breaking News From 1962, 1981, 2000: "Newt Takes No-Adultery Pledge" --Politico.com
Answers to Questions Nobody Is Asking: "Why Mitt Romney Is Like Jan From 'The Brady Bunch'" --FoxNews.com
Too Much Information: "Bill Clinton Says Wife Hillary 'Just Wants a Good Night's Sleep'" --New York Post
Free Kool-Aid!: "Crusade for Fewer People on the Earth Seeks Volunteers" --HumanEvents.com
Bottom Story of the Day: "Obama Raises Money for Re-Election Bid" --Associated Press
(Thanks to The Wall Street Journal's James Taranto)
Village Idiots
The BIG Lie, Part I: "Nobody in the Justice Department has lied." --Attorney General Eric Holder on the botched "Fast & Furious" scandal
The BIG Lie, Part II: "[Lying] all has to do with your state of mind and whether or not you had the requisite intent to come up with something that can be considered perjury or a lie." --Eric Holder when asked about the difference between "lying" and "misleading"
The BIG Lie, Part III: "As we work to avoid future losses and further mistakes, it is unfortunate that some used inflammatory and inappropriate rhetoric about one particular tragedy that occurred near the Southwest Border in an effort to score political points." --Eric Holder on the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry
More class warfare: "There are people who can afford to give a little bit more. And you know what? In the end, we'll get it back. It's certainly better to do that than finance -- than be secretive billionaires financing the Tea Party because you have untold needs for untold wealth. For what reason?" --Hollywood movie mogul Harvey Weinstein
The 1 Percent: "I think that we will end up taxing the rich, and that's just fine by me. ... [A]ll the rich people I know, like Ted Turner and Warren Buffet and Bill Gates, they're all saying, 'Tax us.'" --Hanoi Jane Fonda
Short Cuts
"Joe Biden visited Greece last week on the debt crisis. I don't want to say the vice president doesn't know much, but he kept asking for John Travolta." --comedian Jay Leno
"Vladimir Putin slammed the U.S. government for noting how his United Russia Party stuffed ballot boxes and cheated to win on Tuesday. He misunderstood. When the U.S. president and the Secretary of State are both from Chicago there's a real chance it was a compliment." --comedian Argus Hamilton
"Citing budget cuts, the Obama administration will reduce the number of National Guard troops protecting the US-Mexico border. The remaining troops will be tasked with holding up 'Welcome to America' signs." --Fred Thompson
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Geoffrey Gerlach
Nothing. That is precisely what we should be doing about "global warming" anthropogenic or otherwise. I have not heard, nor found any expert that can give me the optimal level of carbon di-oxide for the planet. if they cannot do that, how can they possible tell us we need to reduce it. gg
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:12:01 AM
DONNA
Pray,!
God will have mercy on this ungodly world s long as he wishes...
We can not stop what God started over thousands of years ago. In His time the world and all that is in it is going to melt with fervent heat. Where will you and I be million years from now is the main question. Heaven or Hell.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:13:29 AM
wjmccrindle
To me it is quite obvious, after reading the comments from Boxer, Pelosi, Reid, and all the other Demos, that they are completely retarded and unable to separate facts from fantasy. If they are not truley delusional, then they are outright liars. In either case, they have no business in office, and should be in treatment or jail.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:16:44 AM
Elmer - in Wisc.
I, for one, don’t believe for a second in this global warming crap. Mother Earth has been here for a very long time and she is going to do what she need to, whether we are here or not. Now on the other hand, it just makes sense to make our home, city, state, country, our planet a nice clean place to live. Pick up the trash, develop ways to keep the air and water clean, in other words, treat this planet as if we are guests here.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:24:10 AM
donna j thrasher
If God created this world,(he did) he can take care of it.(he will) No worries on my end. (Except for our current administration and a lot of the legislative branch.)
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:26:39 AM
Dave
First we need to determine if a warming earth is a bad thing. Those that believe in an old earth all tell us that prior to the last ice age, the earth was much much warmer. Since we did not have SUVs and coal burning steel and power plants then, something else must have warmed us out of the ice age. Plus back when it was much much warmer, (before man) the earth was pristine. Perhaps we are just returning to that pristine state, so why would we want to stop that.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:28:45 AM
Ken W
What should we be doing about possible global warming?
There is so much hot air coming out of the upper orifice(s) of the "Global Warming' alarmists (Al Gore) that I find it hard to believe in such nonsense.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:29:58 AM
Scott
There are two things that need to be done about global warming. First and foremost, those advocates (excuse me, "scientists") of global warming need to be removed from the scene because of their obstructionist activities regarding taking a serious look at the science behind the subject. Second, the science needs to be reexamined because, even by the admissions of global warming advocates (excuse me, "scientists"), there is a lot of data that inconveniently doesn't support the idea of anthropogenic global warming, let alone global warming itself. To wit, a panel of scientist, widely seperated from political and economic influence, needs to review ALL of the data and apply actual scientific methodology. Real science; gee, what a concept!!!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:33:08 AM
Dave
There's nothing we can do. This huge globe has been going through warming and cooling cycles since day one. All this hyteria is agenda driven and as usual follow the money.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:33:09 AM
Brrrr
Fahgeddaboudit! It ain't gonna' happen. Climate change we have, but not anthropogenic climate change. We have had climate change ever since the world stated spinning and we will continue to have change until it stops.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:34:07 AM
Dick Lombardo
Did you purposely frame the question to irritate? As others have said, we should do for global warming exactly what we should do for global cooling - zip, nichts, nada. I do think that unelecting Barack Obama and his band of liberal senators and congressmen, and then eliminating the EPA would have a major and beneficial impact in reducing real hot air.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:35:31 AM
Audrey SMith
Quite frankly, we should be doing -- NOTHING-. This old world will still be going strong long after these alarmists( marksists) are gone. I am becoming a tad optimistic that the general population is awakening , ( very slowly) , but more and more to discover how we have been blind sided by certain people. Soros, Gore, Gates, Suzuki, Prince Charlie to name some. They are in the game for one thing. POWER, a one world government, where they would be the rulers. We have to stop them very soon. Thank You
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:36:35 AM
Barb Bentley
Call it 'plain silly' and ignore it.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:38:10 AM
Ben Hartley
Nothing.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:38:16 AM
Carol
What should we be doing about possible global warming?
Well, the first thing that comes to mind is...enjoy the sunshine!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:39:17 AM
desert
Do absolutely NOTHING about glob all wurming....
God has everything under control!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:39:34 AM
The Texas Cooke
As religions go, Man-Induced Global Warming is only slightly stupider than Darwinian Evolution, despite the fact that Congress holds them both higher as an established religion than those that are several thousand years old. Faith may move mountains, but it won't substitute for good science! Neither religion above are even subject to scientific enquiry...let alone born of science.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:41:10 AM
Tony Picking
I'm an ultra-conservative both socially and militarily, and close to ultra-conservative fiscally, but I think global warming is real, and to some degree caused by burning of fossil fuels. Polar ice cap melting, together with the study of ice cores seem to be fairly conclusive in linking atmospheric carbon to warmer global temperatures.
Question - if man is able to deplete fossil fuels and other resources from the planet, why is it difficult to believe that man can have other global effects.
Where I strongly diverge from the liberal view of global warming is their belief that it can be stopped or even slowed significantly. If global warming is real and if it's been caused to some degree by burning of fossil fuels (two big "If's" to anyone reading this), then I see no chance that it can be stopped. The world's population will continue to rise (until something like nuclear war or pandemic disease), and the remaining fossil fuels on the planet will be used. Noting the libs do or try to do will change that. And none of their pitiful steps to sequester carbon will ever have much impact.
I think the best option is to prepare for the changes, because I don't believe they can be prevented.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:43:31 AM
GEORGEWBOAT
USE MORE OIL
The planet is making more oil, When is covers the surface of earth and some fool lights it we will then see global warming.
The key issue is CONTROL, CONTROL the energy and therefor the PEOPLE, Just like gun CONTROL it is nit about gun safty butt CONTROL, climate control is about CONTROL not the climate it is about CONTROL
And if car emmisions are so bad, EXPLAIN WHY we have to mow the grass along busy roads, why the trees grow to the road, weeds grow in the meadian
of the buiest hiways, WHY CARBON DIOXIDE, The planet needs it without CARBON DIXOIDE all the plants will die and mankind will STARVE itself to death
UES MORE OIL< BUILD NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS, burn more coal
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:43:38 AM
Harry Mathis
When the whole "global warming" conspiracy has been cooked up by leftists promoting themselves as "climate scientists", using fraudulent data conjured up by omitting data points that contradict and using "fudge factors" to "adjust" data points to make them support their global wealth redistribution scheme, the only answer for America is to reject it entirely.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:47:33 AM
Marti
The most hot air in the World is coming out of Washinton.
The earth is just fine, it's the idiots of the global warming nut jobs that I'm concerned about.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:52:01 AM
desert
"Fairy tales: "Millionaire job creators are like unicorns: They're impossible to find and don't exist." --Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV)" It is practically impossible to tell which is the biggest idiot between reid and obiden!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:53:05 AM
lfodf
Get out of the UN. Let the "world" know we will never subordinate our constitution to ANY treaty or world court. Send any US politician to jail if they even consider subordianting our constitution to another law body .
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:54:44 AM
Christopher
From a scientist and engineer, there is only one way to stop the silliness, education. There is a whole world of scientists out there that are apolitical -- they just do not care about a bunch of lying politicians -- that know that their objective training easily refutes all the "populous" pseudo-science. They need to speak up, be bold. That is generally against their nature -- they like to work quietly in the background. There needs to be a public forum for this sort of "true" scientist. Maybe like this site. The so-called "consensus" needs to be chased tail-between-its-legs by the bigger and more conscientious collective of real scientists, if for no other reason than to point out that science is not a matter of consensus, but of science.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:56:48 AM
Oathkeeper Scott
The 'greens' are pro-power and anti-people. They claim to want to save the planet, but not for us. They want less people.
Beware the UN's Agenda 21. Look it up. They're already here in the U.S.: quietly, inexorably usurping our sovereignty. We can debunk and defeat initiatives and big political moves here and there, but we remain surrounded and infiltrated by entities that want ever-more power over us.
I think we've won a battle here with the Kyoto Agreement, but the war goes on and I fear we're losing more battles than we realize. The greens aren't going away. They're fanatical. They know what they want.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:07:04 PM
Nancy Fox
Shouldn't "tenants" be "tenets" at end of paragraph ?
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:08:15 PM
Jill
Our planet, at least the planet where most of us have been born and raised, has gone through natural heating and cooling periods since its creation. The alarmist have pockets to be filled and they want to pick other's pockets to do it; example: algore, et al.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:10:29 PM
Grandson of Liberty
"I want to be judged as a good and faithful servant...He came, yes to bring salvation, but also to bring equity and justice into the world, that we would be so heartless and unChristian. It goes against the precepts of all religions and even every human value that we would end unemployment insurance." --Rep. Donna Christenson (D-Virgin Islands)
Mrs. Christenson, you miss the whole point - you can not be judged on whether you are a good and faithful servant by forcefully taking from us to give to people you wish to be charitable to. God wants us to freely give of ourselves, not to be forced to give against our will. If that was God's plan, he would have dictated in His laws in the Bible that tax collectors be at the temple to collect tithe rather than demand people do it on their own free will (tax collectors were there, but not on God's orders). God has given us free will - and it is up to us to do so, but don't think you are a good servant because you make me charitable - something God doesn't even make me do.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:13:28 PM
Bob Anderson
We should do nothing. The hypocrisy of the global warming crowd is incredible. To think that man can actually change natures way of dealing with the health of the planet is absurd.
The planet is just fine. Leave it alone.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:13:51 PM
Henry Bowman
Let's all be sure to go off half-cocked and do the stupidest thing we can think of. Heaven forbid that Mankind should look at the true facts in this matter and come to the realization that we haven't the slightest idea of our contribution to "global warming". And most of all, let's not actually think before we act, since we have accurate records of global climate for about 150 years out of the last 4.3 Billion years. That should be enough to see a pattern, no?
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:15:36 PM
Monty
Do nothing and enjoy it.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:17:18 PM
RADDAD
I work in medical research, and the findings produced will be a benefit to people 5 & 10 years out; after the proper protocols are followed to confirm the results and reduce any potential adverse effects.
I don’t believe climate change studies have the same due diligence behind their data or conclusions. When the conclusion is that they are manmade, they appear to be ignore facts, and are politically and agenda driven.
Ocean variability, the variations of the earth’s orbit (axis tilt, eccentricity and precession), solar output variability, plate tectonics and volcanoes.
I didn’t see me lighting a fire, or some livestock releasing ethanol gas, or all of the biological life on earth exhaling CO2 in any of those causes of global warming.
God Jehovah made this world, and he can take it out. The statement is made that the earth will be destroyed by fire in 2 Peter 3:5.
We need to be aware of those things that are around us that can be made better because we were there.
RADDAD
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:21:56 PM
Terry Dillard
Under "The Demo-gogues" for today's Chronicle, I wonder if the esteemed Ms. Christenson (D-Luded) has ever read II Thessalonians 3:10 where the apostle Paul says "For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: 'The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.'" Charity by individuals for the disabled is laudable. Charity by government for those unwilling to flop Whoppers or sack Macs is detestable.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:33:53 PM
Brian Boerman
"Millionaire job creators are like unicorns: They're impossible to find and don't exist." -- Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader
"Steve Jobs. Gordon Moore. Andy Grove. Bill Hewlett. Dave Packard. Bill Gates. Gene Amdahl. How many more unicorns you want, Harry?"
-- Brian Boerman, Nobody, except that my job (and the jobs of 100,000 fellow employees) have been created and sustained by a few of those "unicorns" for the last 30+ years.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:41:54 PM
Ken R. Lee
This is a naturally occurring phase that has been shown throughout the history of the earth. It has been proven by honest scientists and/or geologists for many decades. The corrupt individuals, who have made millions over this fraud should be tried individually, starting with Al Gore, for their accusations and then jailed, at least until it gets cool again!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:45:52 PM
MAJ USA Ret
Truth is distorted in direct proportion to the power that controls it.
When politicians control the media, truth is lost. Main stream media is overwhelmingly liberal and progressive. Any cause, any news item that supports a liberal and progressive agenda gets front page, all else goes inside. Global warming served the purpose of the liberals and progressives to control the vast majority of the population which has little to no scientific training and even less in climatology. What was inconvenient about global warming was that truth was stolen and distorted by politicians exploiting it to their self-serving ends.
Global warming may or may not be a threat, it may or may not be caused by human activities. But current circumstances prohibits valid debate or even research in favor of political power. The suspicious and doubtful exhibit wisdom. Those who accept global warming follow politicians, not truth.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 12:58:17 PM
Alton
I suppose asking for someone for IDs must be a personal issue with this administration. BHO has never shown his. The Supreme Court and Congress apparently think they are O.K. with that. I have been showing a picture ID since 1956 when I went to the military and now 55 years later still showing it to enter or carry on any business on a military installation. I have no problems with that, I have nothing to hide and honored to have served and also honored to show an ID. I must then assume Mr Obama you are trying to hide something and anyone else not willing to show their ID, likewise. We still want to see your papers El Presidnte.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 1:00:32 PM
robert ampthor
The science is so inconclusive and manipulated that we should continue to watch and learn. Someone please ask all those delegates what there carbon footprint is as a result of flying mostly Northerners to the very south to achieve an agreement to talk more 4 years from now. Seems they'd have helped the Earth more by staying home.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 1:09:19 PM
Jim Petersen
What did we do about the "warming climate" hundreds of thousands of years ago. How many cycles has it gone through since Earth existed. So what makes our intelligent doomsaysers think that we are not going to have that same thing happen? I think that trying to purify, the emitted products from factories is a good idea, but scaring the crap out of people with poppycock about CLIMATE WARMING is very harmful to society and should be stopped.
Jim
Posted December 14, 2011 at 1:19:22 PM
Jim
What should we do about global warming? I suggest putting all the lying "scientists" in jail until their lies about man caused global warming materialize. That should be a life sentence. There is no conclusive evidence for man caused global warming. It's all about government control and collecting taxes.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 1:19:29 PM
Larry Elliott
What to do about Global Warming? Oh my. The average temperatures where I live has been below "normal" for at least the past year, but then "normal" is only averaged over 70 some years. Even going from what I read yesterday in Archaeology magazine, people have been in the Americas for likely more than 15,000 years. That's not even 0.5% of the time people have occupied the Americas. If anything else possibly happened half a percent of the time, or less, how much would anyone be worried about it? Not much I'd bet.
Aside from the fact that it can be warmer in some places and cooler in others than their "normal" temperatures at the same times what is there to do. NOTHING is the best answer.
The entire "global warming" or "climate change" fiasco is only designed to wring more money out of supposedly wealthy countries, that are by the way mostly flat broke, to support "poor countries" that are mostly run by dictators. This does nothing for the "people" of those countries, it just enriches the already wealthy dictators.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 1:28:20 PM
Grant in Carlsbad, CA
What to do about global warming? Individually: adjust to it – and don’t vote for any politician who thinks government can control the weather.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:08:48 PM
PatriotM1A
Does anyone in their right mind believe these idiots
will actually stay in session to correct all the
wrong they have done?
Does anyone really believe these morons will miss
their Christmas vacation with their families?
Does anyone believe these idiots care about anyone
but themselves?
Well, does anyone?
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:09:41 PM
Dick
The Bible clearly answers the question of Global Warming. See the book of Genesis Chapter 8 verse 22. "As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease." Doesn't get much clearer than that, unless of course you don't believe in God and would rather believe in the crowd that promotes such frauds as these to steal every liberty and dime you own. God bless us all !!!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:11:53 PM
Lowell
My credentials are as good as any climate scientist's. I have a BA [in History], I've worked 40+ years in TV and been right on predicting huricanes more than our trained weather men were. I say the drought the south and southwest states are having is due to too little carbon dixide in the atmosphere.
Prove me wrong!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:12:49 PM
Texas Gal
You know what they say; if a lie is repeated enough times, it becomes the truth. Our new reality is that global warming, oh wait let's call it global climate change, is real, it is happening, we need to be scared, very scared. When people like Al Gore and companies like Goldman Saks are heavily invested in ventures that will reap huge profits because of climate change, then we should all know it's a monstrous scam. Obama is part owner of a company out of Chicago that will benefit from cap and trade. Now you tell me, is there really climate change or just a change in the climate of those who rule or want to rule?
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:20:24 PM
sandy miles
At the rate we're going we'll do nothing. Cause greed will surely bring us to ruination. So start praying for our children (maybe ourselves too) brothers cause I believe climate change is happening right now. I've been around for 68 years and in my memory there have never been as many violent natural diseasters...one after the other. While I don't rely on scientist but my own observations, common sense in addition to what some scientists are saying. If there's even a 5% chance that we're contributing to these changes wouldn't it be useful to at least try to do something about it. Just think we might even end up discovering new energy sources and building up our economy as well. But, unfortunately the oil mouth pieces will continue to tell us it can't be done. We were able to get to the moon but we can't do this???? Of course we can if we have the will, invention and imagination. As an independent...I have no one to vote for cause we know neither party will take up a big cause like this. Who knows maybe our children will change things???
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:23:59 PM
LoachGunner
Hey Barbara, they *DO* exist: "Problems do not go away by pretending they do not exist...", but not because of man. It is the cycling of nature over thousands of years that exist. We have cold periods followed by warm periods followed by cold periods and so on. And I think most climate scientists, if you were to get them away from any cameras, microphones and other media junk would tell you the same thing.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:29:32 PM
Major Stu
Apparently Sen. Reid must have been napping when the tributes to Steve Jobs were going on. How many employees did Apple Computer have when it was founded? 2 - Jobs & Wozniak. How many does Apple employ now? Were those jobs created by government programs, edicts, central planning, or was it the result of innovative business people and creative talent designing, building, marketing, and producing products that people want to buy? Ditto for Bill Gates and Microsoft. How many iPod users are there on the planet? How many desirable products like iPods has Harry Reid contributed to society?
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:32:10 PM
LoachGunner
Hey Barbara, people die every day: "because it will kill 8,100 more people more than would have otherwise been killed from pollution..." We killed 30,000 on U.S. highways last year and none of it was caused by pollution.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:32:23 PM
MNIce
The global warming alarmists claim specifically that we are going to cook the planet by burning fossil fuels, thereby increasing the small portion of solar radiation absorbed by the resultant carbon dioxide (never mind that the bulk of such heating is due to water vapor and methane).
Please note: "fossil fuels." All of the coal in the ground, and perhaps much of the oil and gas, was once part of the ecosystem, but was locked away by geological processes. When humans extract fossil fuels and burn them, they are simply returning biological carbon to the ecosystem in the quickest, most efficient and productive manner possible. The focus on global warming is grossly misplaced. The real question ought to be why the ecosystem is failing to keep up with incorporating the added carbon.
The answer, and its solution will also improve the living standards of many thousands of people. The Sahel region of Africa is subject to increasing desertification in part because of water shortage brought about by deforestation for fuel use (note that this is "sustainable bio-fuel!"). We should work on desalinating sea water and pumping it inland for irrigation, and providing electric power for this region. This will improve the standard of living for these, the world's poorest people, far more effectively than giving their rulers a share of "carbon taxes." I suspect there is a long-term profit to be made from such a project, but it will be a major feat of engineering to accomplish.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:32:25 PM
Michael Joe Thannisch
Global warming isn't so much of a worry. Pollution is, and so is conserving resources for the future. Petroleum is really far too useful to just burn it all. Even more important we should be concerned about energy independence. It is not good that we depend on other nations for petroleum. It is time we worked on true energy independence. Frakking may be a good thing, but we need to be careful. It may be that there are places where fracking is very safe and others not so. Research first, please
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:37:29 PM
Joe Aker
We should ground Airforce One until January 22, 2013.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:39:13 PM
Bill DeFelice
The only global warming to fear,is the hot air escaping from Washington,D.C.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:47:48 PM
Ed
Re Barbara Boxer [D-Democratic People's Republic of California]: Another stupid Democrat never learned the meaning of "literally."
Posted December 14, 2011 at 2:48:12 PM
T. Williams
I think everybody should grab a couple bottles of filtered water, grab a Quarter Pounder with cheese from McDonalds, and get ready to leave earth. It's the only logical thing to do!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 3:09:51 PM
Jiggs
Actually, these Global Warming geeks are riding a broken hobby horse. Global Warming is really Climate Change and it has been progressing since the Big Bang. There have been tropical eons, glacial eons and so on and on. Attempting to reverse Climate Change by legislating it away is impossible. These people can't stop volcanic eruptions, or earthquakes, so what makes them think they can reverse Climate Change? To think they can is selling snake oil personified.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 3:18:56 PM
Hawkfan
Not a darn thing. Does anyone really, REALLY believe we can affect the climate of the earth? If so, how stupid are they? We can't even predict hurricane season activity 3 months in advance. What makes anyone think that our sophisticated computer models would be any better at predicting planetary warming let alone man's impact? I had hoped with the leak of all the e-mails regarding the manipulation of global warming data that the role of man in anthropogenic warming would finally be laid to rest. How wrong I was! The enviro-fascists are now hell bent on proving their case even more. Ridiculous.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 3:19:33 PM
RK Sprau
The climate is changing. I know I see it everyday in the city I live in. The question is political, the question is why. What we need to do is to prepare ourselves for it. The deep south had a ugly spring. If your Biblical, it's
a. God's wake up clarion call
b. Gods wrath.
It could be a combination of us and a natural cycle.
Congress doesn't care about you. One of my favorite sections is The Demo-gogues. What the writing team should do is analyze Congress. reduce unemployment benefits by 50%, smooth move for keeping people in home and not being homeless. fire 200,000 more. Good thing to do in a severe recession.
We live in 1-45 children our homeless, about 33% of everyone lives in poverty.
I hear sociological warfare, redistribution of wealth, class warfare. Editors, what do you think of early church communism? If you went to seminary they teach it in Acts. The early church brought in everything they owned, put it in the pot and redistribute "each according to there need." They did it for almost 300 years. In Ecl, "He that loves silver shall not be satisfied be silver." In the NT, we have the Rich man who was told what? "give away everything you own and follow me. He went away sorrowful for he had a great many possessions." (for those who care, he sat on the lessor Sanderhian, condemned Y'shua Ben Yosef. He also wrote most of the NT. Surprise, he was a millionaire and gave it away to further the cause.
We never ask the right questions. We are sidetracked on: is the president a christian, is global warming real. have a conversation but in the end, does it fix jobs Congress wants to eliminate jobs? Infra structure. My son is a structural engineer before Congress laid him off. He stated most of the bridges in my state need to fixed or replaced. How many deaths will it take for us to wake up? We want to kill the oversight committee for passenger planes, how many crashes, how m,any deaths before we say, hey:we have a problem
What Congress needs to do is to follow the oath of there office not an oath they took for a LOBBYIST (Northquest)
If God is punishing us with earthquakes and weather then I recommend we reevaluate our priorities.We can start with both houses FOR THEY ARE NOT DOING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. The question isn't the political view, the question is a spiritual mindset.
In closing, the state of Mich takes over cities, lays off anyone you voted in office, Judges, sheriffs, council member, voids all contracts,(against state constitution) lays off firemen and police departments in mass. THIS IS COMMUNISM, yet no Conservative sight will touch that one. Why? We are having the wrong conversation.
We Conservatives claim to cherish the Constitution yet we allow states to go rogue I've read yesterday (INDEFINITE DETENTION FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS.) Hey editors, Op ed the last 2.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 3:21:34 PM
Richard Sims
Nothing!!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 4:07:30 PM
Don
I think we as Americans should do all we can within reason, to curb our footprint, but alarmists like Al Gore and others are capitalizing from instilling fear into nations. The natural disasters that occur everyday are the biggest contributers to the so called global warming.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 4:08:06 PM
Jim Darlington
Lions and Tigers and Bears Oh My!
Boxers Obamas and Gores they Lie!
Con-artists betting that Polar Bears sweating
Are bound to be getting more Liberal pants wetting!
Another hot story for socialist Glory
No Nanny downsizing, the waters are Rising!
But no fuss or worry, Obama's the hero.
So let's all go vote and give him his Zero.
(Gong!!!!)
Posted December 14, 2011 at 4:11:20 PM
Harriet
NOT A DAMN THING!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 4:14:09 PM
Kathy
Nothing! It was going to happen anyway, with or without us humans!!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 4:17:33 PM
Harry Mathis
When the whole "global warming" conspiracy has been cooked up by leftists promoting themselves as "climate scientists", using fraudulent data conjured up by omitting data points that contradict and using "fudge factors" to "adjust" data points to make them support their global wealth redistribution scheme, the only answer for America is to reject it entirely.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 4:25:08 PM
Peter Grynch
Build more nuclear power plants.
Don't insure houses in flood plains or too near the coast so people won't live in high-risk areas.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 4:27:03 PM
James Frisbie
We should be doing nothing about "global warming" since there is nothing we can do and anything we do would not stop or start "global warming". For men to think they can control the forces constantly shaping and changing this planet is the height of idiocy. If you are so inclined to believe in God then any changes come from Him. If you are not so inclined, changes come only by Nature.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 4:31:09 PM
Jeff
I read the little story from the Washington Post above claiming the US has 1.4 Trillion barrels of recoverable oil. That is total nonesense. Whoever wrote that must be making things up or pulling it oput of their butt. According to expert ananlysis the US has only 134 Billion barrels of technically recoverable oil. Thatis about one tenth what the short story is claiming. Please use facts instead of fanatasy.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 4:38:25 PM
Bill
Nothing because it is a hoax.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 5:02:57 PM
Fed Up
"Sen. Boxer Warns EPA Provision in GOP Tax Cut Bill Will Lead to Thousands of Deaths" Fox News.Com
I always wondered why California voters hold onto Barbara Boxer and allow her to stay in office representing them.
Where do you suppose she gets her numbers? She says 8,000 people a year wie DIE, if regulation on boilers is not approved.
I have come to two conclusion: California voters are some of the dumbest on the planet; and since it is California, they are simply overly melodramatic with a touch of neuroticism.
God help us sustain and put up with those who write laws that affect the rest of the country from twits such as those who come from Californa. Oh, and I just remembered, another twit comes from California with a flair for melodrama and idiocy, Nancy Pelosi.
God help Californians survive the emptyheadedness of Boxer and Pelosi!
Posted December 14, 2011 at 5:09:02 PM
Brian Wilson
Somehow the truth has got to get out to the masses. They need the truth about the fraud, lies and misinformation to be widely distributed in the papers, TV and radio. Otherwise the truth is virtually dead and the liers will win. Only the truth can win the day.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 5:16:53 PM
chuck Vandenberg
Prior to the coming of the Black Death, Europe had a very moderate climate. They had great prosperity, as many as three growing seasons and a burgeoning population. Then it turned cold, bring the plague and starvation.
I think the real question is what are we doing to take advantage of this warming period to help us prepare for the cold that always follows?
We can store excess food better than middle ages Europe and we can produce larger amounts of food on less land. Shouldn't we be discussing how best to use those assets when the time of plenty ends?
Warming periods do not seem to be as long as cold cycles which always follow them. Yet we are wasting time debating the dangers of warming rather than exploiting the abundance. This is in the face of clear historical and archelogical evidence. It is time to tool up.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 5:25:52 PM
Mike
Until we know for certain that global warming is actually occurring and that man is a significant contributor to global warming we should do nothing.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 5:37:58 PM
Darrel McRoberts
Nothing except to continue to expose it as nothing more than an attempt to take from the "rich" (in their words anyone with an income)and give to someone else.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 5:53:15 PM
KN
Go ahead let's cool off the earth. As much as we can! Shorten the growing seasons. Shrink the available land that's used for agriculture. Yes, that's the ticket.
Here are some of the lies from the 1970 Earth Day when global cooling was the cause de jour:
“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.” • Kenneth Watt, ecologist
“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” • George Wald, Harvard Biologist
“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.” • Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day
“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” • Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University
“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….” • Life Magazine, January 1970
“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.” • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” • Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘ER up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’” • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.” • Sen. Gaylord Nelson
“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
Posted December 14, 2011 at 6:08:47 PM
Roger Anderson
nothing.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 6:39:21 PM
Bob R.
What should we do about 'Global Warming?'. . . .in a word. . . .
Nothing!
I don't believe the science, if looked at without bias, supports the claims made by the alarmists.
If there is even a component of world-wide climate warming that can be correctly attributed to human activity, it appears to be minute; whether it warrants the exorbitant costs the draconian measures proposed would levy upon the developed, and the developing, economies of the world is even harder to justify.
We need to accept the fact that the earth experiences cycles of warming and cooling, and get on with spending our energy and resources on problems we have the ability to influence.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 7:38:12 PM
Craig
The evidence that man-released CO2 is warming the planet is overwhelming and one-sided. That's the part of the science that is "settled", nearly as settled as evolution. The part that isn't settled is predicting exactly how much it will warm by when.
None of that means that proposed solutions in the form of big government are the way to fight it. We all know what kind of a record they have. Carbon taxes, etc. are just wealth redistribution. The right solution will come from technology and the market, and good policy cannot even be discussed until everybody at least recognizes the fact that it is real.
Unfortunately there are politically-motivated people, ostensibly on "the right", who are obfuscating about AGW. They are, interestingly enough, using the same tactics that creationists use to argue against evolution. That's one way you can tell they're full of it and ignoring the facts.
Accepting AGW as real does NOT mean you can't be a conservative. That's a false dichotomy.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 7:51:10 PM
morning glory
WHAT global warming/climate change/anything-else-algore-can-make-money-off-of????I don't believe in preparing for ANY hoax let alone one as foolish as global warming! What a crock! Do people really believe that humans are so significant that they can destroy what GOD has created? Do they think God was so short-sighted that HE would have allowed mankind to do such a horrible thing to HIS creation? I think we were mandated to be good stewards of our earth, but I don't think we're anywhere NEAR destroying it. We're just not that smart~~
Posted December 14, 2011 at 7:52:14 PM
Chan Bates
The new centered justification for the newsletter is harder to read and unusual. Centered justification is typically reserved for verse--poetry and such with relativley short texts. Artsy fartsy.
News text is almost universally left justified. In some cases, editors choose to L-R justify, but that is also harder to read because of inconsistent spacing.
One man's opinion, based on 45 years of editing english. Keep up the good work. I am always a fan.
CB3
Posted December 14, 2011 at 8:14:55 PM
Jerrel Swingle
Global warming? Idiot's delight.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 8:16:11 PM
JAMES J. BILENKI JR. (USN. RET.)
SACRIFICE Al Gore & all the Al Gore wanna-na-be's to the God, Father Winter! The best way to do that would be to put all of them on a freshly calved ice berg and let them drift Southward into warmer waters. See who's the last one to get their ass wet!
J.J.B.(USN.RET.)
Posted December 14, 2011 at 8:37:41 PM
Gunwise
We should be doing.... NOTHING. Well, almost. I submit that anyone trying to fleece me out of my hard earned money in order to support anti-global warming BS is no different than someone pointing their finger through a coat pocket and asking for my wallet. Therefore, the response should be the same - lethal and immediate retaliation - in other words, shoot them down like a dog on the spot. Aside from that, how arrogant do we have to be to believe we could "influence the planet" during our infinitesmally small presence on this planet? I'm all for not dumping obviously odious substances into the local stirm drains, but lets be reasonable. We have actual statistics on about 150 years of weather, out of billions of years of the planet's existence. Even a 6 year old wannabe statistician can tell you that no statistically relevant data can be drawn from so small a sample.
Seriously? We should be hunting the purveyors of this BS down and hounding them for their remaining days, be they ever so short.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 8:42:44 PM
Al C
Tell the truth about this non-science. As a physicist (optics), I can say with past president of the American Physical Society, Frederick Seitz, that the data (on warming) do not support man-made sources as the cause, and, in particular, that CO and CO2 in the atmosphere saturate in effect at hundreds of times less than the present levels: It is already doing all that it can to produce warming, which is very little compared to water vapor. Source: absorption tables in the Environmental Research Institute of Michigan (ERIM) Infrared Handbook for CO, CO2, water vapor, and the solar infrared spectrum as seen at various altitudes and latitudes and climates.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 9:29:32 PM
Al C
Tell the truth about this non-science. As a physicist (optics), I can say with past president of the American Physical Society, Frederick Seitz, that the data (on warming) do not support man-made sources as the cause, and, in particular, that CO and CO2 in the atmosphere saturate in effect at hundreds of times less than the present levels: It is already doing all that it can to produce warming, which is very little compared to water vapor. Source: absorption tables in the Environmental Research Institute of Michigan (ERIM) Infrared Handbook for CO, CO2, water vapor, and the solar infrared spectrum as seen at various altitudes and latitudes and climates.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 9:34:39 PM
Retired, disgusted Veteran
The only thing that we can do is continue to expose the lies & corruption as it occurs. It would be helpful if the REAL scientists could form a group that yells as loud as the socialists & snake oil salesmen to provide a recognized source. Then, short of bitch slapping some sense into most Americans, we must prepare for a second revolution to restore this nation to its original standards as spelled out in the Constitution. I know, a lot of people think that we can merely 'vote' ourselves out of trouble, but books have been written (that many believe) that there is nothing that we can do to save the United States - it is doomed to failure based on the conditions & periodic timing. Still, I believe that there are enough of us who defended this nation for many years that are willing to stand up & fight for its restoration one last time. Hopefully there are a host of able bodied patriots that are willing to do so as well.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:36:29 PM
Craig
Feel free to believe in any god you like. That's not an answer to scientific evidence. If we didn't understand the IR absorption characteristics of CO2 pretty well, our heat-seeking missiles wouldn't work. If you can find actual scientific data showing that the climate isn't warming, please show it to the thousands of actual climate scientists whose data show otherwise. Every single proxy and measurement being made tracks the same curve.
Don't be a climate creationist. Look at the science.
And meanwhile don't give Al Gore a penny.
Posted December 14, 2011 at 11:41:33 PM
Kevin Cook
Nothing need be done. Anthropomorphic global warming is a man made invention to control people and destroy freedom. If you want to do something, do a little research on climate science (not political consensus)and you will find that "man's" contribution to the so called "green house gases" is miniscule compared to the Earth itself. Furthermore, you will find that it is not these "green house gases" that control Global temperatures at all but sun activity. We have flattered ourselves that we are powerful enough to affect the Earth's climate when in fact we are no more capable of doing this than a colony of ants is capable of destroying Mt. Everest.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 12:37:49 AM
Luther Glenn
There is no control that human beings have over global warming. This is a natural phenomena that occurs in cycles. If the so called scientists who are touting global warming were being honest with the public they would admit that theirs is a pseudo-science with no real basis in fact.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 1:15:35 AM
Matt
In regards to possible "global warming" we should be asking why the "scientists" are cutting back on the number of stations they are using to record global temperatures. We should ask why they are using the average/mean temperature and not the median temperature to deterimne the trend in weather. Avearge/mean temperature is always skewed by extreme outliers. Median temperature will give us a better understanding of the temperature trend.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 1:16:47 AM
Jill Jarvis
Global warming, no wonder with so much hot air coming out of the upper Office! It's a bunch of hog wash! If everyone would just read the bible they would know God is the only one that will be responsible for destroying this world (NOT GLOBAL WARMING)
Latest newsbreak "the party in hell was cancelled due to the fire"!
Posted December 15, 2011 at 10:14:07 AM
Craig
Global warming is all about scientists keeping their gov't grants.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 10:54:57 AM
Craig Kinard
What should we be doing about global warming? NOTHING!!!
Posted December 15, 2011 at 12:52:42 PM
David - Boston
It really doesn't matter who the Republican nominee for President will be. Despite all the brouhaha regarding the coming election, only one thing will really influence it...
Will enough of the American public vote to overwhelm the massive voter fraud that will be perpetrated by the Democrat party? THAT will determine the outcome.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 1:30:25 PM
Craig
A lot of you aren't getting it. AGW is being *used as an excuse* to gain power over people. AGW itself is a scientifically validated reality.
Health care is also being used as an excuse to gain power over people. That doesn't mean that medicine is fake.
We really, really need to separate the science from the politics. The politics is where the "alarmists" are playing. The science is where the scientists are, and it's real. We won't get good policy until everybody recognizes the scientific reality.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 2:04:10 PM
tarymelon
NOTHING!!!
Posted December 15, 2011 at 2:47:15 PM
XCpt
How about we have all the AGW believers raise their hands, then collect them together for a Jonestown kool-aid festival.
Surely they will see that the best way to cure the problem is to remove themselves from the situation that is allegedly causing the crisis.
How many millions could we get rid of?
I have yet to see any connection to how, if the planet is warming, that taxing anyone will change the trend. Taking more money from the people won't change a thing.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 3:42:09 PM
Craig
XCpt: So just kill anybody who doesn't agree with you, huh? That's a winning debate tactic.
You're correct that global warming won't be fixed via taxation, but mass murder sounds even worse.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 5:24:20 PM
jksisco
Sorry Craig, nothing is settled, except Co2 is part of the atmosphere. Higher temperatures have been established for the Medieval Warm Period which presumably had less Industry than today. Just as the credibility of Scientists getting their funding from Oil Companies is brought up, so to, should the credibility of Scientists getting their funding from Government and other grants be questioned, both are more than likely biased, is that the type of settled science that you can believe in? Until all data used to "settle" the climate question, includes the effect of Solar radiation, Volcanic activity and no doubt thousands of other miscellaneous sources of heating and cooling, until all that can be put into a model reliable enough to come to a conclusion then nothing is settled.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 5:52:02 PM
halfnorsk
Publius, puhleez! Re: Rep. Donna Christenson's "arguing that Christian tenants of individuals caring for the poor," it's supposed to be "tenets."
Posted December 15, 2011 at 6:09:16 PM
Malcolm Hook
Buy cotton shirts and shorts. It may indeed get warmer, then it will get cooler before it gets warmer again. On second thought cotton futures might also be a good idea.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 6:52:36 PM
Craig
jksisco:
The temperature record is astonishingly consistent, and tracks the CO2. I know the argument you're using, because I used to use it myself. Unfortunately it's the result of cherry-picking the data.
I urge you, and anybody else interested in AGW, to read this:
http://skeptoid.com/blog/2011/06/15/i-global-warming-skeptic/
Posted December 15, 2011 at 6:58:49 PM
Thomas Harger
If global warming is occurring, whether man made or just part of the earth's, we need to decide what steps can be taken to learn to live with it. To think we can reverse it or stop the world from continuing to follow it's natural cycles is egotistical and not realistic. I have seen no information about how the increasing level of CO2 will increase plant production and increase water efficiency; except on one website, co2science.com. If we need to move New Orleans, re-direct the Mississippi river, etc. we need to get on with it. But rather than getting any government program to "save us", we need just to relax and let the economics of the market place work things out.
Posted December 15, 2011 at 7:11:46 PM
Fred
Concerning global warming, I have just one question. If, indeed, mankind is responsible for global warming, how did the last ice age end? Mankind wasn't even on earth at that time.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:51:25 AM
Terry
What should we do about global warming? Nothing! It's like Santa, nonexistent. Just leave it be.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:06:31 PM
Esteban Cafe
"Freeze or Fry, the problem is always Capitalism and the solution is always Socialism." It never changes.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:45:59 PM
Bob H.
Absoulty nothing.......
Posted December 16, 2011 at 10:38:40 PM
Jay Muse
Build more air conditioners!!! Seriously, we should be educating our friends and others of the fallacy of global warming and frankly the whole of liberalism.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 2:09:43 AM
Robert Leland
We should do all we can to minimize our effect ( minimal as it is ) on the environment, but not to the detriment of our industrial success. These are natural cycles the Earth goes through and we have no way to influence them (for the worse or the better). The alarmist say that we are doomed if "global warming" gets any worse. In the past when temps were higher the plant and animal life flourished. If you want death and famine, just wait until the next ice age (coming all to soon to a region near you).
Posted December 19, 2011 at 8:08:54 PM
Mephisto
"global warming", "climate change" or whatever you want to call it is a joke, a H-O-A-X!!!! It doesn't exist.
Stop giving these morons a forum on which to spout their nonsense. Stop publishing this garbage and start publishing the truth.
Let these alarmists fund their own research, not the American taxpayers. Let them put their own money where their mouth is and you'll find out very quickly the truth.
These loser groups don't like wasting their own money on foolishness, just other peoples money on their pet projects.
Always follow the money.
Posted January 8, 2012 at 7:09:43 PM