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Friday, December 16, 2011
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Government
The Field in Iowa
Is it really a two-man race?In less than three weeks, the Iowa caucuses will be upon us. Time flies when you're choosing among this Republican field. As of today, the race there looks to be among Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul. The latest Rasmussen poll has them in that order, at 23, 20 and 18 percent, respectively. The only other candidate in double digits is Rick Perry at 10 percent. National polls tell a somewhat different story, however. Gingrich leads an NBC/WSJ poll with 40 percent to Romney's 23 percent. No one else is in double digits. Hence, at the moment, the race is essentially between the former House speaker and the former Massachusetts governor. Not many people are happy about it.
As we noted last week, Romney seems to have a support ceiling in the 20s. Obviously, his past "progressive" positions, not least of which was godfathering ObamaCare, are weighing him down. Gingrich, on the other hand, is enjoying his turn as the Not Romney while voters give him a look, following Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry and Herman Cain in that role. Gingrich's negatives, too, are well known: A disastrous personal history, his past support of an individual mandate to buy health insurance, his earning $1.8 million from government-backed mortgage giant Freddie Mac just before the housing collapse, his global warming commercial with Nancy Pelosi, a flip-flop list even longer than Romney's, and so on, and so on, and so on.
We're as surprised as anyone at Gingrich's rise, and, unlike the other Not Romneys, Gingrich faces significant opposition from, for lack of a better term, the conservative establishment -- from Ann Coulter and George Will to National Review. Indeed, we can't shake the feeling of wishing for a mulligan on the whole thing and finding an entirely new field of candidates. Or at a minimum, asking the "what ifs." What if Tim Pawlenty hadn't dropped out? What if Jon Huntsman, who actually has a halfway decent record, hadn't run such a terrible campaign? What if Rick Santorum had gained traction? What if Rick Perry hadn't self-destructed? We're not endorsing any of the four, but the first three never even got their 15 minutes in the sun to find out.
Given the deep dissatisfaction with the GOP field, one man is getting his hopes up: Barack Obama. According to The Washington Post, "President Obama's top campaign strategists said Tuesday that the increasingly heated Republican primary battle between Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich is helping to shift the national political landscape back to Obama's advantage. Their comments reflected growing confidence among Democrats, who only months ago worried that the sputtering economy and a lack of enthusiasm among core voters would doom Obama's reelection bid." The obvious reasons for tempering their enthusiasm are that the election is still nearly 11 months away, and Obama remains deeply unpopular -- more so than any incumbent since Jimmy Carter.
According to Romney, the Republican primary "is not going to be decided in just a couple of contests" and "could go for months and months." That's easy for him to say, facing a stiff challenge from Gingrich, but he's also correct. There's plenty of time. We certainly don't think anyone should fold up the tents and go home right after Iowa and New Hampshire. Republicans have a chance in this election to stop the fatal Cycle of Democracy. We would say they shouldn't blow it by settling hastily on a deeply flawed nominee, but deeply flawed is the one thing that describes the entire field.
Then again, the supposed "messiah" candidate didn't do so hot after winning last time, and Republican voters looking for their own messiah shouldn't fall for the same false hope.
How would you sum up the field?

News From the Swamp: Tax Cut Extension and Government Funding
The battle over the payroll tax cut extension reached a new level this week, with the proposal suddenly being used as leverage in a larger battle over averting a federal government shutdown. Republicans and Democrats have remained steadfast in recent weeks about their respective views for "funding" the tax cut, i.e., Republicans, yes; Democrats, no. Now it appears Democrats may be ready to cave due to a lack of team support. Senate Democrat leaders met with the president this week to discuss the possibility of dumping or scaling back the millionaire surtax that they previously insisted was necessary and "fair." This meeting came a day after the House called Obama's veto bluff and passed its version of the payroll tax cut with a provision attached to move forward with the Keystone XL pipeline, which would create tens of thousands of jobs.
Despite the internal debate over the future of the surtax, Democrats are still pressing for an advantage. They linked the payroll tax cut to a government funding measure that needs to be in place by midnight Friday to avert a shutdown, though members of the House and Senate Appropriations Committees approved an agreement Thursday night to extend the payroll tax cut for two months to allow for further discussion, and also to allow the $1 trillion spending agreement to go through.
One item not receiving enough attention, however, is the blow that the tax cut extension will deliver to Social Security's so-called "trust fund." Charles Blahous III, a member of the Social Security Board of Trustees, said that the two percent payroll tax cut reduced Social Security revenue by $105 billion this year, and it will claim another $119 billion next year. When the trust fund falls short, Social Security revenue has to be drawn from the general fund. The payroll tax cut, according to Blahous, is forcing Social Security to become even more reliant on the general fund to stay solvent. "If you just had a program that was in the general financing pool," Blahous said, "if you didn't have a separate trust fund, if you didn't have a separate payroll tax, Social Security would have a lot fewer political protections. It would basically be competing each year" with other priorities. Blahous is a little late to the game -- Congress has been raiding the "trust fund" for generations.
The original purpose of the payroll tax cut was to ease unemployment and give a little relief to the middle class. However, unemployment has remained near 9 percent even with it, and the money that middle-class families receive may be short-changing their own retirement.
One small bit of good news is that the final omnibus contains a provision defunding the Department of Energy's program to create new and higher standards for incandescent light bulbs. A 2007 law required efficiency levels that would effectively ban 100-watt incandescents as of Jan. 1, 2012. Perhaps consumers will still have a choice, after all.
Finally, even though a deal has been reached, Michelle Obama is headed to Hawaii for vacation without Barack. That's despite the fact that it will cost at least $100,000 and despite the executive order from just last month demanding efficient travel. Rough lives of the 1 Percent.
Open Query
"One of the most egregious aspects of this bill [the Middle Class Tax Relief and Job Creation Act of 2011] is that it promotes state drug testing for workers to qualify for unemployment benefits. Mr. Speaker, did the authors of this provision know about the Constitution of the United States of America?" --Rep. Gwen Moore (D-WI)
We have a question for Rep. Moore: What section or article of the Constitution authorizes unemployment benefits in the first place?
Democrats seem to think that as long as they came up with the idea -- or at least support it at the time -- it's automatically constitutional. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it.
The BIG Lie
"The unemployment insurance extension is not only good for individuals. It has a macroeconomic impact. As macroeconomic advisers have stated, it would make a difference of 600,000 jobs to our economy." --House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), making up numbers

New & Notable Legislation
Three competing bills aimed at addressing Internet piracy are working their way through the House and Senate, but their approaches to the problem differ considerably. Two similar bills in the House, the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), and the Senate, Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA), would implement the security of property on the Internet by giving the government unlimited power to shut down websites. These laws have been attacked by First Amendment advocates for their overly broad language and their lack of respect for judicial process. Former Democrat Sen. Chris Dodd, who now runs the Motion Picture Association of America, Hollywood's lobbying arm, is highly motivated to stop piracy, and he supports both bills. In fact, Dodd even pointed to the Chinese government's effective system for handling the Internet. Rather than follow China, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) introduced a competing and more streamlined bill, the Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act, which adheres to the judicial process currently in place in copyright cases.
The Congressional Black Caucus introduced the Restore the American Dream for the 99 Percent Act, a long list of leftist grab-bag items that was the result of a meeting between the CBC and members of the New York and Washington Occupy Wall Street protest groups. The bill claims it will create five million jobs over the next two years by raising $800 billion in new taxes on millionaires and an additional $350 billion in taxes on investors. Pardon the pun, but that's rich -- taxing the job creators to make them create jobs. OWS claims that they want to meet with other caucuses in Congress in the coming weeks and months, but maybe they just want to come indoors because it's cold outside.
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Economy
Around the Nation: Terrible Economy Is a Case to Re-Elect Obama?
According to a new report by the National Center on Family Homelessness, a left-wing advocacy group, child homelessness spiked 33 percent between 2007 and 2010, with allegedly 1.6 million children -- or one in every 45 -- in the United States living on the streets last year. Center President Ellen Bassuk placed the blame on the economy: "What we [had] new in 2010 is the effects of man-made disaster caused by the economic recession. ... We are seeing extreme budget cuts, foreclosures and a lack of affordable housing." Indeed, among the states with the worst rates of child homelessness are those where foreclosures and job losses are prevalent. Moreover, it's not just "poor" families who are in distress. A number of those seeking help are professionals who have lost their jobs and depleted their savings.
Hundreds of TV, print and online media sources reported this week that new census data indicate 50 percent of Americans are at or below the poverty level. Some journalists need to take elementary math. The actual percentage is 31.8. That is significant, but far less than originally reported and then recycled by major media outlets.
Speaking in Kansas, Barack Obama also bemoaned the horrible economy, conveniently ignoring, however, the fact that he has presided over it for the last three years. Instead, he blamed the rich for, well, being rich, while calling it "heartbreaking" that "millions of working families ... are now forced to take their children to food banks for a decent meal." As columnist Charles Krauthammer writes, "You have to admire the audacity. That's the kind of damning observation the opposition brings up when you've been in office three years. Yet Obama summoned it to make the case for his reelection! Why? Because, you see, he bears no responsibility for the current economic distress." He hasn't yet mentioned child homelessness as a reason to give him four more years, but you never know...
How does economic malaise benefit Obama?
Climate Change This Week: Kyoto Receives an Extension
After a two-week marathon of negotiations and infighting, the 194 nations that met in Durban, South Africa, finally threw in the towel on a whole new global warming accord and decided instead to extend the Kyoto Protocol, first adopted in 1997, for another five years through 2017. Key points added to the existing framework were mechanisms for collecting and distributing billions of dollars from wealthy industrialized countries to poorer nations. Following the money reveals the reason why Kyoto wasn't allowed to expire: its abject failure to achieve meaningful emissions reduction, particularly since the United States has never been a party to it.
In the meantime, developing nations exacted promises from China, India and the United States to begin negotiations on a new pact by 2015. Soon, though, the U.S. will be joined by another major industrialized nation as a non-participant. Earlier this week Canada announced its intention to withdraw formally from Kyoto, as Environmental Minister Peter Kent warned that, for Canada to comply, it would face the choice of "either removing every car, truck, ATV, tractor, ambulance, police car and vehicle of every kind from Canadian roads, or closing down the entire farming and agricultural sector and cutting heat to every home, office, hospital, factory, and building in Canada." Some choice, huh? Even though it won't make a dent on the overall climate, some nations insist upon enacting this handy wealth redistribution tool in order to handicap the world's producers.
Security
Warfront With Jihadistan: The 'End' in Iraq
In a 45-minute ceremony Thursday, U.S. military personnel officially marked the end of the mission in Iraq, though the administration made a point to say that the U.S. is not declaring victory. It has been nearly nine years, $800 billion and 4,487 American lives (3,527 in combat) since the war to liberate Iraq began. Saddam Hussein was deposed, tried and hanged, and we should have a fledgling ally in the region. It strains credulity to deny victory.
Hosting Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in Washington this week, Barack Obama declared that Iraq is now a nation "that is self-governing, that is inclusive and that has enormous potential." Yet the president has done little to ensure that ties are strong with Iraq. That isn't surprising, given his insistence while an Illinois state senator that Iraq was a "dumb war," but he's not in the Illinois senate anymore, either. Unfortunately.
An ongoing alliance with Iraq is critical to U.S. interests in the region if for no other reason than to keep Iraq from falling under the control of Iran. The U.S. must forward-deploy materiel and limited manpower to southern deserts to maintain a formidable power presence in the region and rapid response capability. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who has said we should remain in Iraq for 100 years, didn't hold any punches for the sorry excuse for a commander in chief in the White House: "All I will say is that, for three years, the president has been harvesting the successes of the very strategy that he consistently dismissed as a failure. ... I believe that history will judge this president's leadership with the scorn and disdain it deserves."
The Wall Street Journal echoed that sentiment: "What a pity ... that this Administration is treating our near-total withdrawal from Iraq mainly as an opportunity to show the political left that it has ended George Bush's war." If it's political gain at the expense of national security Obama is looking for, well, mission accomplished.
All else aside, America's men and women in uniform served nobly, and they won an important war. Nearly 1.5 million of them went to Iraq, and we thank them for their service to our country.
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Drone Use by Police Is a Bad Precedent
An unsettling, perhaps illegal, mixture of federal and local law enforcement resources is starting to rear its head across the land, and it will bear close monitoring. Last June, North Dakota Sheriff Kelly Janke tried to execute a search warrant on a family farm, seeking stolen cows, but was chased off by three armed men. Fearful of an armed standoff and needing help searching the 3,000 acre farm, Janke called in the Highway Patrol, a SWAT team, a bomb squad, and, surprisingly, a Predator drone from Grand Forks Air Force Base. The Predator pinpointed the suspects and showed they were unarmed, allowing police to rush in and make the first known arrests -- apparently without an arrest warrant -- of U.S. citizens with help from a Predator.
The use of the Predator, including some two dozen additional surveillance drone flights by local law enforcement, the FBI, or the Drug Enforcement Administration for domestic investigations, may violate the Posse Comitatus Act, which bars the military from a police role on U.S. soil. The drones belong to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, and advocates of their use cite the alleged broad authority given to Customs by Congress to work with police on "interior law enforcement support." Working with local officials to find illegal aliens or drug smugglers, or to assist during emergencies, is one thing. It's quite another to spy on citizens without a warrant, in violation of the Fourth Amendment.
Meanwhile, Congress is moving ahead with a defense bill that includes broad language denying captured terrorists, even U.S. citizens seized within the country, the right to trial and subject them to indefinite detention. While we recognize the need to treat enemy combatants as just that, there already exist rules for handling enemy combatants with due process, which this bill does not. Additionally, the bill's overly broad language could allow a lawless administration (anybody seen one recently?) to start putting Americans away for almost any "threat" against the nation that it declares as such. Extreme vigilance is the word.
Iran and the Drone, Redux
Webster's Dictionary defines "feckless" as: Not fit to assume responsibility; generally incompetent and ineffectual; being incompetent or inept. Barack Obama's lame attempts to defend his inaction on the downed U.S. RQ-170 drone in Iran fit the bill. "We have asked for it back," he said, and "we'll see how the Iranians respond." We have asked for it back? Where was Joe "foreign policy expert" Biden when the national security team mapped out how to handle this issue? And now "we'll see how the Iranians respond"? How does anyone with half a brain think Iran is going to respond? After the mullahs stopped laughing, they said, "Not a chance." To wit, this headline in Fars News, one of Iran's official news services: "Obama begs Iran to give him back his toy plane."
Losing the drone by itself was embarrassing, but the damaging part was allowing Iran to capture it intact and exploit U.S. technology themselves, as well as share it with China and Russia. That could and should have been prevented. The drone went down in eastern Iran, a vast, sparsely populated area with virtually no air defenses to speak of. With all the U.S. airpower in the region, not to mention the hundreds of Tomahawk missiles on U.S. Navy ships, why didn't Obama order the aircraft destroyed on the ground (as the Air Force did with a downed F-15 early in the Libya campaign)?
Being president of the United States carries with it a responsibility not to do or say exceedingly stupid things that damage the nation's standing in the world. Far more important, however, is the president's responsibility to preserve the national defense. Obama's failure to act is outrageous and unforgivable. It reminds us of Clinton's allowing the Chinese to recover targeting systems from a suspiciously crashed ICBM that he allowed them to buy to "send up a telecommunications satellite." Democrats used to be at least moderately patriotic, but the last two Democrat presidents seem to want to share our defense secrets with the world.
Judicial Benchmarks: SCOTUS to Hear Arizona SB1070 Case
It seems to be the way of things these days -- major changes in law or enforcement of the law wind their way through the courts and eventually end up in the lap of the Supreme Court. So it is with Arizona's recently enacted laws that empower local law enforcement to verify the immigration status of those suspected of being illegal aliens during traffic stops or other offenses. After Arizona passed SB1070 last year, several other states passed similar legislation, but the Obama administration secured court orders thwarting enforcement by the several states, claiming federal jurisdiction.
Yet as the required number of justices granted the petition for a writ of certiorari, the endnote stated that Justice Elena Kagan did not participate in the consideration or decision on that petition. It can be presumed that she won't hear the case, leaving open the possibility of a split verdict, which would by default uphold the lower courts' rulings and void the Arizona law.
So just in time for the 2012 election, we will likely have a more definitive answer on the legal direction of two key campaign issues: the fate of ObamaCare and the legality of state laws that mirror federal laws on immigration -- laws that are, by court fiat, legal for the feds but not for the states.
Culture
Village Academic Curriculum: Occupy Scholastic
The latest issue of Scholastic, a publication distributed to students in virtually all schools, reminds us that we cannot be too vigilant in monitoring our kids' "education." In its recent coverage of Occupy Wall Street, Scholastic portrayed the "movement" as a bunch of harmless college kids who fear they will be excluded from the American Dream. It said nothing, however, about the crimes these people have committed or how their insatiable need to be relevant continues to distract us from other pressing political, economic and cultural issues.
One parent, upon reading his fourth grader's copy of the newsletter, contacted Scholastic to complain. He referred to their one-sided coverage as "propaganda," the likes of which he saw growing up in the Soviet Union. In response, he received the sort of boilerplate language worthy of any typically inadequate customer service center: "We apologize for any inconvenience," and we "will make sure corporate headquarters sees your comments." This is unacceptable, especially since Scholastic, which has been around for nearly 100 years, refers to itself as "America's Leading News Source for Kids."
Back to the reality of Occupy Wall Street: As cast and crew of "Law and Order: Special Victims Unit" prepared to shoot an OWS-themed episode in New York City, the set was overrun with more than 100 OWS protesters. After a lengthy disruption, an NYPD officer announced that the city had rescinded the filming permit, which, of course, the protesters considered a victory. "We've made it so they could not exploit us," one protester said, "and that's awesome." They shouldn't flatter themselves; the "Law and Order" franchise, which has been around for more than two decades, has always based its episodes on real legal cases and current events, tilting story lines strongly leftward. This is, however, a disturbing sign of the times that a city as "tough" as New York has allowed these interlopers to dictate what happens on its streets.
'Sesame Street' Teaches Kids About Free Lunches
It used to be that kids watched "Sesame Street" to learn how to count to 10. Now, however, they're learning to count on the government. Last week, as part of the show's "Food for Thought" campaign, a Muppet named Lily announced to the National Press Club that even though she's worried her family cannot afford enough food, she has hope: "[W]e've been finding lots of ways that we can get help. ... [F]or example, at school I get a free breakfast and a lunch [as] part of the meal plan." The message: Don't worry, the government will always provide. The multimedia campaign is targeting schools, hospitals and food service organizations.
Then, with a straight face, WIC representative Reverend Douglas Greenaway linked free government lunches with reducing the federal deficit. Of course, he didn't bother to explain how spending vast amounts of money reduces the deficit. This is the worst kind of indoctrination, for it teaches our kids first to fear, then to rely on government largesse. Of course, as the old saying goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch -- something the children will find out soon enough.
Regulatory Commissars: NTSB and Cell Phones
The National Transportation Safety Board has issued a synopsis of a report on a 2010 Missouri highway accident, involving a semi cab (without its trailer), a pickup and two buses. The NTSB determined that the 19-year-old driver of the pickup was distracted because he was texting on his cell phone. That is already against Missouri law for anyone under 21, and he paid the ultimate price -- he and a student on one of the buses died. According to The Washington Post, in 2009 almost 5,500 fatalities were caused by crashes involving a distracted driver, though it's not known how many of those were due to cell phone use.
The NTSB, however, took the opportunity to use one report on a single incident to issue a recommendation that states ban the use of cell phones -- not just texting, but also talking while holding the phone (handsfree devices exempted) -- while operating an automobile. The agency does not have the authority to enact a ban on its own, but at least some states are sure to begin the process. Anyone who drives knows that the moment eyes are taken off the road, anything can happen. Distractions can lead to accidents. Yet some of the most dangerous words in the English language are "There ought to be a law," and, at a minimum, we recommend caution when outlawing activities. Nanny states are no less tyrannical than communist ones.
Should states ban cell phone use while driving?
And Last...
Firearms sales this holiday season have been the best since 2008, according to the Firearms Dealers Association. In fact, FBI stats show that the number of background checks this year represents an increase of 32 percent over 2008. One firearms dealer in Fresno, California, is cashing in with some clever advertising. "They've been mistreated and misunderstood for generations," says the ad narrator. "Abusive owners have done severe damage and given these beautiful creatures a bad reputation." The idea, of course, is to get people thinking along the lines of puppies or some such. But the object is guns. "You can make a difference by giving a gun a loving home," the ad continues. "These guns want nothing more than to adore and protect you. So, please, have a heart." The owner of the store says the ads have increased their business "10 fold," particularly among women, and they plan to continue the campaign. All we can say is, "Deck the halls with guns and ammo."
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A. Freeman
Sorry to see that the Patriot Post is falling onto the same mindset as most of the mainstream media... ignore Ron Paul. The people's voice will ultimately be heard - it is the job of the media to report the news - not frame it, regardless of the candidate.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:25:53 AM
Bob
I fail to see why Bachmann is being ignored. She has impeccable Tea Party and social conservative credentials.
So why is no one saying Bachmann?
She has been with us from the start, more than any other DC politician.
She heads the congressional Tea Party Caucus.
She opposed the bailouts.
She is a PhD smart lawyer.
She knows tax law and economics.
She knows the Constitution.
She coined the appellation "Newt Romney" in hte recent debate.
She is a fiscal, social and small government conservative.
She is pro-marriage and pro-life.
Her debates are quality, not Perry confused (the MSM appellation of fact challenged is, in fact, itself fact challenged. She was right on the ones I checked.).
There are no allegations about her marriage (unlike Cain or Gingrich).
She prizes family and faith.
She walks the walk (23 foster children, in addition to her 5 biological children).
She is neither a Mormon, a Marxist, or a Muslim.
She believes in a robust energy policy [drill, baby drill, no cap'n'trade and ahe despises the lightbulb ban].
She believes in plentiful energy and less government.
She knows business (family has owned a successful small business for decades, much like Palin).
She hails from Iowa (In fact she WON the Ames straw poll just last August).
She is preferred by Glenn Beck and Jim Dobson.
I don't get it - why are we collectively ignoring her? My answer - the MSM is ignoring her, so we are going along. Rush weighed in early on Michelle: Rush Limbaugh: Why I Love Michele Bachmann http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/michellebachmann-rushlimbaugh/2011/04/21/id/393657 On foreign affairs, she is on the committee that oversees the NSA and CIA, the "House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence" and is knowlegable, and she is pro-Israel. What is there to not like here?
What is missing here? Gender? Breath? Lack of military experience? Too wholesome? Too Christian?
Is she inflexible? Yes. But I despise flip-floppers like Kerry, Romney and Gingrich.
Is she a winner? Yes, in an ultra-liberal part of an ultra-liberal state (You know, the one with the Muslim US rep -- oops, that includes Indiana, too).
She did not loose her last election, like Santorum, nor did she back liberals (again, like Santorum's last three endorsements). Or like Romney's run for Mass Senate against Teddy Kennedy.
I see a Margret Thatcher here, or a Golda Meir. What do you say, folks? What am I missing? So I ask again,
Why is no one saying Bachmann?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:30:33 AM
Howard Last
"We have a question for Rep. Moore: What section or article of the Constitution authorizes unemployment benefits in the first place?"
This is just the tip of the iceberg. What about social security, medicare, No Child Left Behind, Dept. of education, HUD, dept of agriculture, dept. of energy, ATF, food stamps, welfare, banning incandescent light bulbs, FEMA, etc. etc, etc?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:30:53 AM
Michelle Marshall
I will be voting for Newt, as will my husband, my folks, my friends my sister and her husband, my older brother and his wife and my youngest brother.
If, after the primary, Mitt is the choice, I will vote for Mitt.
But please don't attempt to spin the American people with the barrage of Newt negatives anymore.
The damage you are doing to our party, not to mention your readership in incalculable.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:36:25 AM
Robert Young
In my estimation, the field consists of three RINO'S and One World Government supporters, Newt, Romney, and Perry. None of these three are Constitutional Conservatives and have past voting records showing they ignored and trampled on our Constitution. Then, there are 3 Constitutional Conservatives, Ron Paul, Michele Bachmann, and possibly Rick Santorum. I believe we must elect a Constitutional Conservative for President and give him/her a House and Senate controlled by Constitutional Conservatives. The Liberals and RINO'S must be voted out. I feel that Ron Paul's plan for America is much better and more comprehensive than anything any of the other Candidates have put out. Ron Paul in 2012 with a Constitutional Conservative House and Senate to support him.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:37:28 AM
Michael Hylton
This cycle's pool of GOP candidates begs the question. Why don't those who consider themselves "conservative" take a serious look at the candidate that will come out of the Constitution Party? Last election, there was no "circus of the stars" for their party's nomination, simply a list was compiled and the party members voted for the one to represent the Constitution Party. This is the way it's supposed to be. Not some "race" to become a party's candidate.
The GOP is no longer a party for conservatives IMHO. Based on my observations over the last few years, a democrat/liberal/progressive is essentially the same as a republican. Think not? Look at the Patriot Act. It was definitely an overstepping of powers, backed by dems and repubs alike, and signed into law by a repbulican president. They are all (especially those career politicians) on the same "side" and that side goes against our constitution time-and-time again.
Please wake up, go down to the street corner, and buy a clue.
Thanks.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:38:37 AM
Lloyd Thompson
I'm a conservative who believes deeply in the Constitution and in the traditional values that made our Nation great. And, I say to the purists out there...stop the bickering and focus on winning.
In this presidential campaign, like none other in memory, winning is everything. Obama is and must remain the issue.
You can see in the debates that Mitt Romney is a leader. His strong and thoughtful stands on key issues, backed by a clear-headed, strategic approach to governing should be welcomed by any and all of us who have had enough of the Obama way.
Mitt’s approach is in stark contrast to Obama’s finger pointing and his extreme big government agenda designed to transform this nation into something quite incompatible with our founder’s vision. The result of Obama’s game plan is that some 75% of our fellow Americans believe the Country is on the wrong track.
For millions the American Dream is on hold. Real unemployment levels are hovering around 11%…a national tragedy. Crushing regulations have created great uncertainty causing business owners to wait for the other shoe to drop before expanding.
Obama continually talks about how he creates jobs, yet he blocks the Keystone Pipeline Project, the largest construction project in the country with an immediate assurance of some 20,000 new “shovel ready” jobs, and 7,000 permanent jobs once completed. The country needs it, even the unions want it…but Obama’s environmental pals don’t want it. If they win, we lose.
We need someone in the oval office who understands the economy and job creation; someone who believes in America and sees it’s future as bright and robust. We need an experienced CEO with a positive vision of the future, not a CO with a blurred view of our past.
Politics is the art of the possible, and Mitt Romney understands that basic axiom. He will bring together the critical coalition of Republicans, Independents and disaffected Democrats needed to win in 2012.
I believe that if Mitt Romney wins the presidency, America wins.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:41:04 AM
GrannyRob
I feel Bachmann is the true conservative on the debate stage, but she doesn't have enough experience in the trenches and democrats can play dirty, very dirty. I have to go with Newt despite his warts. He knows how to play the game democrats play and he's wise now to the same game played by Republicans who hate him as much as the democrats do. The hatred of Newt by both sides of the aisle is enough of an endorsement for me to go Newt. I believe he would protect this country and her people at all costs no matter which way the political winds blow. That's the job of a POTUS!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:42:46 AM
Dr. Ralph Swartz MD
Mark Alexander For President!!!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:47:55 AM
Dave
If it can't be enforced no, there's already to much disrespect for the law.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:48:57 AM
M Rick Timms. MD
Still no mention from anyone that the Tax Wage Base is going to go up for 2012 from $106,800 to $111,100.
That should help refill the coffers of FICA a little bit- so the democrats can pilfer this money and spend it on pet projects to buy votes. Basically this amounts to a $500 tax increase on the "rich", or anyone making over $106,800 a year.
Why haven't the Republicans mentioned this built in tax increase on the rich, as a concession to the "tax the rich" leftist in Congress?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:49:20 AM
Lee W
The field? It's pathetic. THIS is the best we could do? This is painful. I agree with the several who stated that there is no true Republican party/candidate anymore. It is more a question of "which flavor of progressivism/one-world-ism do you want?" I, for one, abhor progressivism in any flavor. I don't want this country "transformed" either by a left-wing Marxist or a right-wing neo-whatever. I want fiscal conservatism, Constitutional law and a return to the Christian basis upon which this country was founded. Anything less is a sellout. Am I a bigot? No. A racist? No. So, what are our options?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:49:53 AM
Bruce R Pierce
SCOTUS to Hear Arizona SB1070 Case
The "leaving open the possibility of a split verdict" could favor Arizona if it adheres to Article III section II of the Constitution that reads; in all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the Supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. That takes jurisdiction away from any lower courts and puts right where it belongs. If the States let the Government get away with it we are doomed.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:50:12 AM
Dixie
So, maybe you should rethink Dr. Paul as a viable candidate. He actually was allowed to express some lucid thoughts in the debate. IF Americans think, that could make a difference!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:52:12 AM
odmartin
I believe the unusual consternation and strong opinions about candidates is caused by the realization that we simply must get Obama out of the White House. We cannot afford to make a mistake. At this time, however, it is 10 months from November, and we can only hope that we have the collective wisdom to choose the right candidate.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:52:46 AM
aj
I'd say...its time to move on from the negative past. Whos gonna be able to stand against Obama & who will stand w/ Israel as well against the evil of the world? Whos gonna stand w/ & for our troops& families as well for the people of the USA? Obivously Obama hasnt & he thinks less of Americans & our troops. He just wants to spend, give money his buddies that fail & stop jobs for USA. (Look @Keysyine foe example) Look @ who RIGHT now will work w the pf eople, for the people & against evil.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:53:47 AM
Joe Murray
The ABC debate, Huckabee's "forum" and the Fox debate last night were the only ones with hanest to God substance.
Romney and Gingrich came across well last night as did Rick Perry. If there are three tickets out of Iowa, these are the three who should get them.
Ron Paul is the Caligula of our time. His foreign policy positions are so far off the mark of reality that I've begun to question his mental stability.
jBAchman, Sntorum and Huntsman need to wrap it up. Huntsman would make a superb Sec State; Bachman a first head of IRS; Sant5orum, head of HHS.
If Perry loses (likly, although I admire him) he would be a good, no nonsense Sec Homeland Security.
If Romney wins he should absolutely have Newt as VP. That would give the executive branch leadership the benefit of two avenues of successful accompishment.
All that would produce an excellent "Team of Rivals". Since this election is the most critical for America's sustainability since 1860. it would be best for egos to forget the political parry and thrust and get the very best team in place as Lincoln did.
It's going to be a long eleven months followed by a long four years. :-)
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:55:18 AM
Kerry Anderson
Simple choice for this simple guy! Support #3 so we can lift him to #1,get our troops home and take care of America first. Ron Paul is the only breath of fresh air in this pack of "politics as usual".
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:55:37 AM
Grunt
Those who ignore history are forced to repeat it. The Republican Establishment is choosing the candidate. (osps! remember John McCain?) Guess what, we “red neck little people” don’t like that.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:56:57 AM
Gary
I still am holding on to the hope that Michele Bachmann will catch on. She is the true consistent conservative and a clear and concise opposite to BHO. Not to mention the fact that the Rebulicans would beat the DFLer's in fielding the first woman candidate for president! And the first woman president! How would they ever live that down?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:58:23 AM
Granite
Republicans, in general, are just plain stupid people! If polling data can be trusted, most Republicans would rather have Gingrich or Romney as their president over Michele Bachmann. Bob (above) has listed the clear proof of her fit for the job and a resume that is a perfect match for what Republicans usually say they expect in a presidential candidate. Yet, again, if polls can be trusted, Republicans continue to demonstrate their incredible stupidity. Fact is, The Patriot Post, maybe not in specific declaration but in the precipitation of its accumulated inferences, seems to pooh-pooh and shun Bachmann and tout the candidates whose resumes fly astonishingly in the face of what Republicans and conservatives in general usually say they want in a president.
I find myself reading The Patriot Post less and less and having no faith that Republicans will not continue to demonstrate their incredible stupidity.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:58:45 AM
Mike
losers, one and all
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:59:42 AM
Jill
Of the top three; Sen. Paul is nuts and Gov. Romney seems to be somewhat of a liberal in a Republican suit. Trashing Gingrich, due to his personal history, is just loading fuel for the liberal opposition. Gingrich has proven governmental/political experience, debates very well, has admitted past mistakes and has taken responsibility for them, he now knows the global warming crap is just that; crap.
Gingrich has his facts straight and I feel, at this point, he's the best of the lot to lead this country in the right direction. He will obliterate obamacare. Plus, he will crush obama in any debate even if obama is fed the questions ahead of time (which I wouldn't doubt). Gingrich is not trashing the other candidates, as Bachman (and company) is doing to him, he is not running a 'mud slinging' campaign. Gingrich is debating the others into the ground and they are getting desperate so they will try to ruin him. Last night's debate only solidified Gingrich's position as the leading candidate to win the nomination.
If the mud slinging by the other candidates, and those who support them, continues, it will only help re-elect the worst president this country has ever seen. Our country cannot withstand another four years of what it has been experiencing under this present regime.
If Sen. Paul still runs as a third party candidate, which he may very well do, it will doom us to another term of destruction. Sen. Paul said he doesn't WANT to run as a third party candidate but did not say that he wouldn't run.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:00:23 PM
John Dorr
I have held the patriot post in very high esteem until recently. Now I am just very frustrated in reading their less than astute analysis of the Repubican field. They are almost establishment in their thought and opine. For that matter it appears that the country still has to wake up. When can we get full backing for a consistent conservative without all the bull? We are not even worthy of Michelle. Why are we looking for some ultra smooth debater and speech giver instead of ideals and character seen in the record? Where are the real men and women of this country and when are they going to stand up?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:00:42 PM
John Bantsolas
I am optimistic - ANY of the GOP candidates would be a better president than BO. Whomever comes out on top needs to be able to articulate BO's failures, why he failed, and exactly what he would do to "fix" the problems.
The GOP's biggest problem is the drive-by media not taking the president and his administration to task for their grossly unsatisfactory performance - seems like FOX is the only network willing to call 'em like they are. The "mainstream media's" constant stream of propaganda is why Obama has not been forced to resign already!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:03:19 PM
Ed Orr
Ann Coulter is eating sour grapes because her chosen candidate chose not to run. Why it surprises you that so many conservatives still choose Newt surprises me. Most people I know would choose Newt regardless of his past record simply to prove the media wrong. The "what ifs" have no relevance with regards to current presidential candidate survivors.Ron Paul is also eating the bad grapes because he was drafted into the service at the beginning of the Vietnam war and despises the military. In last nights debate Paul came across as someone suffering from a mental disorder which his supporters also share. The key to understanding newt's rise is that you must first come to the realization that the silent majority of voters simply do not trust the media and could care less about Newt's record. The large majority of voters simply want to have the right person who can shred Obama in the debates....if Obama does not quit as is being rumored and makes perfect sense.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:03:58 PM
Bob Lopez
As a values voter, I can not back the more liberal candidates neither Gingrich, Romney nor Paul. Even though Ron Paul sounds conservative when he speaks about fiscal issues, he is at his core a libertarian who presents a disaterous isolationist forign policy. Rick Perry lost me when he couldn't show the courtesy of yielding the floor to Romney when Romney clearly supposed to have the floor. For me it's comming down to Bachman or Santorum. Bachman has had a few missteps, and Santorum has been too low key to have a clear picture of him. I will vote for whatever emerges from this swamp in an attempt to limit evil, but given that Obama is the bar, it dosen't take much to be a lesser evil.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:05:16 PM
Tim
Concerning the Social Security "Trust" fund. It never really existed. The original program, back in the 30's had one, but FDR's folks decided that looked bad in economic hard times and dropped it. After that it was pay-as-you-go. SS went negative, paying out more than it took in, in the early 80's. After a massive tax increase, it was solvent again and began to accumulate a surplus, which Congress promptly spent (and then some). Now it is back in the red, paying out more than what comes in. This is probably a permanent condition, given the demographics of workers and retirees. Which means more borrowing or printing of greenbacks. Like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:05:25 PM
William Geresy
Rep. Ron Paul is a tin hatted idiot! He would lose just like McGovern did. I wish he would quit the race, but saddly, I don't think he is that smart!
Mr. Newt is the smartest with the best ideas. Granted he is far from perfect. Mr. Newt would make our Usurper look like a burned out light bulb even with his magical telepromters.
Gov. Romney is clearly the choice of the old blue blood guard of the GOP. Their choices of McCain and Dole sure worked out great if you think 2nd place is winning! I doubt he could carry his home state or Michigan where the family has deep roots. A safe bet for finishing 2nd in November.
I liked Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan. It wasn't perfect, but it was a bold idea. That is what is needed, not "I'm not Barry" platform.
All the rest all better than the Usurper. But so far none have shown the big idea to sell to the voters.
All but Rep. Paul have a chance at winning in November. Gov. Romney would make it close, but in the end as a traditional GOP "blue blooder", will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
The one issue that will certainly defeat Barry in a landslide is his unconstitutionality. The Supreme Court ruled in 1875 that to be NBC as the Constitution demands, one must have TWO US Citizen parents. Barry can never meet that requirement.
His name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro. It has never been legally changed back. That is a crime.
He has submitted two forged birth certificates. That is two crimes.
He is using a stolen Social Security Number. That is a crime.
Any candidate that makes this case to the American people wins. And Barry the Usurper goes to jail!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:08:44 PM
Sean Valdrow
Noot and Romnee are both Machine Men, part of the miserable political status quo responsible for all our current misery.
Note how 'they' got rid of/neutralized any non-Machine candidates right off. Now it's down to two closet socialists, they tell us, both hell bent on more of the SOS.
We The People lose either way.
Noot's original mission, to my view, was as a spoiler. Another contender, but with orders to soak up enough from any other candidate to make it harder for the non-Machine types. That he seems momentarily to have a real shot is just fine.
I fear his real mission is to ensure His Holiness, The Boy King B. Hussein Obammerz, gets another term to complete his mission of wrecking the USofA.
That is IF we have elections next year. Given the power grab with this Defense Auth act, we might just be under martial law and all us subscribers chucked into Konzentrationlagers.
America ain't what it used to be. And there is NO GOING BACK to the good ol' days. We need to start proactively fighting this gov't by any means possible.
S. Valdrow
Angry Kulak
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:10:13 PM
Gary
If I was guarenteed a republican president, it would be Santorum...but without that guarentee,
I have to go with Newt or Romney..I don't mind all the clutter coming out during these debates , because when they go up against Obama, if they bring something up, it will be old news, and Newt would tell them so......Romney needs something fresh and I do like his backing of a strong Military
Ron Paul is good in that he wants us all to live in La-La land...well that place comes after death Ron, sorry.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:11:31 PM
David
Yes, along with radios, food , smoking, and sneezing.
Oh and pretty women should not be allowed to drive as they are a distraction too...
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:11:44 PM
Jim
As we call and clamor for a tea party president, I think we should step back and realize it would be better and more constitutional to focus on putting forward a tea party Congress, in which case there would be little difference whether we had Gingrich, Romney, or Bachman in the White House. In which case, I'd take Romney's character over Gingrich's, and his experience over Bachman. Bachman should advance in the House leadership, and Gingrich should go back to his third wife and his lobbying.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:12:31 PM
Ruth Bushnell
If you think the "not Romney" factor is at play now, wait until you see his national eclipse.. I reluctantly concede that he did better last night, but cannot forget his many unleashed lapses in preceding weeks in which he came unglued when challenged. Rush Limbaugh said on Greta that he would vote for Gingrich if for no other reason than to see him mop up the floor with Obama in a debate. We need to focus on the final presidential playoff with BHO.. Newt Gingrich is highly intelligent, has vast historical resource, understands government mechanism thoroughly, and has composure under fire. He is the ultimate presidential debate weapon. Bachman only has one debate mode, self-righteous attack, it's not enough.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:12:44 PM
Grant in Carlsbad, CA
Dr. Ron Paul diagnoses the nations problems correctly and he has proscribed the right treatment. Unfortunately he lacks what the American public wants in a President – a smooth talking BSer.
And nobody can out BS Obama.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:12:55 PM
radical rabbi
Of the top three, my vote would be, "none of the above." If Ron Paul would come out of Never Never land in terms of his ideas regarding foreign policy, I could see myself a supporter.
It is my hope that Rick Santorum can start to gain some traction. He has a solid conservative, limited government approach that he has proven.
However, at the end of the day, whomever gets the nomination, I will support, anyone but Mad King Barry.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:13:31 PM
David
Hey that last post was in answer to "should cell phone use be banned" ??
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:13:43 PM
Mike
I am ASHAMED of the Patriot Post for once again IGNORING Dr. Ron Paul. The ONLY one in this field of a PROVEN record of defending the constitution!!
Time and again we read in the post of "Rule of law"!
This is what Dr. Paul is ALL about.
Dr. Paul lets the CONSTITUTION guide his decisions, even when they may run counter to his own philosophy. He espouses LIBERTY and personal FREEDOM. NOT an overblown, tyranical Govt that the rest of these so called "conservatives" believe in.
The rest of this field are simply PUPPETS of the swamp and will do NOTHING to stop the unending encroachment of Govt into every part of our lives!
SHAME on the Post!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:15:04 PM
William Geresy
Rep. Ron Paul is a tin hatted idiot! He would lose just like McGovern did. I wish he would quit the race, but saddly, I don't think he is that smart!
Mr. Newt is the smartest with the best ideas. Granted he is far from perfect. Mr. Newt would make our Usurper look like a burned out light bulb even with his magical telepromters.
Gov. Romney is clearly the choice of the old blue blood guard of the GOP. Their choices of McCain and Dole sure worked out great if you think 2nd place is winning! I doubt he could carry his home state or Michigan where the family has deep roots. A safe bet for finishing 2nd in November.
I liked Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan. It wasn't perfect, but it was a bold idea. That is what is needed, not "I'm not Barry" platform.
All the rest all better than the Usurper. But so far none have shown the big idea to sell to the voters.
All but Rep. Paul have a chance at winning in November. Gov. Romney would make it close, but in the end as a traditional GOP "blue blooder", will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
The one issue that will certainly defeat Barry in a landslide is his unconstitutionality. The Supreme Court ruled in 1875 that to be NBC as the Constitution demands, one must have TWO US Citizen parents. Barry can never meet that requirement.
His name was legally changed to Barry Soetoro. It has never been legally changed back. That is a crime.
He has submitted two forged birth certificates. That is two crimes.
He is using a stolen Social Security Number. That is a crime.
Any candidate that makes this case to the American people wins. And Barry the Usurper goes to jail!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:18:03 PM
John from Maryland
Mitt is too liberal and Newt is a Wilson Progressive. Neither will get my vote. The only even halfway viable candidate is Ron Paul and even though much of what he espouses is the same thing that George Washington recommended; avoid foreign entanglements, avoid debt, don't shed American blood for others' freedom; Ron Paul is seen as too radical by establishment Republicans.
The sad fact is Republicans and Democrats are largely the same; garner more power. And neither party wants to relinquish the central power in favor of states rights (Tenth Amendment). Until that changes, there is no real choice.
I think this is an inflection point in American history and I fear that no matter who wins, we are headed for despotic rule from Washington. I hope I am wrong but the choices before us: Mitt, Newt, or BO, are all not much of a choice.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:18:37 PM
Robert Blase
Huntsman - Staff led him astray to "Republican Lite"
Perry - Stuck foot in it, bad staff, may recover.
Newt - "Genius but not a leader"
Bachmann - Too many thoughtless statements.
Santorum - Values and intelligence, but no spark.
Paul - Some ideas truly dangerous for the country.
Romney - Like castor oil, tastes bad, but good for
you.
ALL GOOD PEOPLE AND PATRIOTS!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:19:05 PM
John Havener
Pretty dismal field and election outlook, especially if Ron Paul gets in to the mix as a serious candidate. The same thing happened to Bush in '92 when Perot took Republican votes from Bush, giving Clinton the necessary majority. IF the Republican Army can't produce any more viable a candidate than the two current front runners, we deserve to lose the election, and suffer with four more years of "hope 'n' change." Hope the country can handle it...
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:19:46 PM
Pat Atchison
I am not completely sold on either Mitt or Newt, however they are both my first choices. What I believe needs to happen is to have a final Republican ticket of either Newt-Mitt or Mitt-Newt for President and Vice President. I believe that the combination of both these men would be an unbeatable team to fix some of the major problems we have in this country. They both have some wonderful strengths and they both have some weaknesses. Their strengths and weaknesses complement each other and would serve to offset the weaknesses of the other. I believe both men truly have the best interest of our country at heart. I see Newt as a big idea man and Mitt as an organizer and someone who can carry through to completion the task. Usually you see the President with the busier schedule. Mitt as Vice-President would have more time and less obvious pressures on him, thereby enabling him to carry out especially the financial solutions needed, in more of a "hands-on" manner. I am a strong, Christian conservative Republican. Mitt's religion bothers me and Newt's marital history bothers me, however this is between them and their God. Right now our country needs BIG solutions to our problems and these two men have the best answers to solve them.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:20:03 PM
Billy G
Having watched and listened to each debate and knowing that our Country's financial system is on life support, we simply do not have the time to make a mistake here.
There is one candidate, Newt, who knows his way around, knows the players, knows the rules about what he can do, and can hit the ground running on Day One. His experience puts him a year ahead of any other candidate in the "Let's get started" jump out of the blocks. That year is a huge leap toward saving the ailing patient.
The night after he is elected and beats Obama, the recovery begins.
He knows homeland security, warfare, economics, immigration, business cycles, foreign policy and he knows where the bodies are buried in DC.
We are blessed to have such a formidable force on on side.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:21:32 PM
James Camp
Negative campaigns damage both candidates. I would rather hear their thoughts and beliefs on things relevent to the U. S.,foreign affairs and the constitution.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:22:51 PM
joe dotson
The current presidential candidates are certainly not the best the Republican Party can offer or at least I hope so. There is more excess baggage among the front runners then can be transported by the worlds largest freight liner. Unless something miraculously happens we better concentrate on getting the Senate overwhelmingly Republican to slow President Obama down from his Keynesian economic socialistic style governmental vision that he's driving us to.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:30:23 PM
D.D. Todd
I'd sum it up by calling an immediate halt by pundits and journalists incessantly bleating about campaigning and get on with reporting and commenting on what the candidates stand for...nothing else! After all, that's what we need to know, not whether one candidate called another a name; nor what the candidates ate for dinner and how. Come on folks!! And if a candidate strays from this, just ignore him/her.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:31:28 PM
Paul Kayser
I love all of you patriots! I like Mr. Santorum. I know others do as well. The MSM won't acknowledge he exists. How can we insist he gets some air time?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:32:57 PM
Hank Wacker
I like Huntsman because he is consistent and a good thinker. Newt is a great thinker and I think Newt will be a fine president.
Romney will also be a great president but he is a little quick to talk and needs to settle down before he says things.
Bachman is an antagonist, forget about her. She would conflict with many, many countries and people.
Paul is a wimp and would not have respect from other the world.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:35:32 PM
richard a connors
I think that Perry had better get out of the debate imbroglio and hit the hustings with his very conservative outlook. The spectacle of the MSM stooges pillorying the candidates is too much for me.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:36:20 PM
Telezer
To be fair, it took a Republican administration 8 years to create the mess. It is unreasonable to think a President--any President-could reverse the downward spiral in 3 years. How can a President create jobs? A Socialist answer would be to grow government funded projects. A Capitalistic answer would be to cut the budget and mandate austerity. Neither of these are viable options. So where does that leave the American job issue?
I suppose we could try these: Bring back all the jobs outsourced to other countries. Dissolve employee unions. Enforce strict rules against employment of illegal immigrants. Privatize our educational, social welfare and penal systems. Privatize our airport, road, park and other government supported public services. Simplify our tax system to a post card sized formula and reduce the IRS by two thirds or more. Drastically reduce foreign aid. Stop policing the world and bring our troops home. Mandate affordable national health insurance and eliminate Medicare.Revamp the SSI system.
How is that for starters?
Notice that I did not include the EPA.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:36:21 PM
Bob Webster
The Noah Webster quote at the top of this issue is the key. Publicize the reality that all religions are CULTS, despite size or history. So-called mainstream religions/denominations/parties try to sling CULT stones at the the smaller, non-establishment ones, while ignoring their own CULT origins and flaws. Abe Lincoln was elected by the people on CHARACTER, not on any mainstream political ties. Vote on character 1st, not political popularity. An election is really a test of the character of the voters. The candidates already know what they stand for. Bob Webster
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:36:21 PM
Lisa from MD
All we can say is, "Deck the halls with guns and ammo."
I love this. Must be getting ready for the revolution that is long over due to take back thi scountry by the people.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:38:47 PM
John Pickerill
Your "Essential Liberties" book is a masterpiece collection of restoring America. If you truly believe the great things you wrote in it, and then read Ron Paul's "The Revolution - A Manifesto," I challenge anyone to find any contradictions between the two.
So that begs the question: Why doesn't Patriot Post and Mark Alexander support Ron Paul? Why are you so quick to repeat the mainstream media party line with demagoguery such as, "He's a kook!" "He wears a tinfoil hat," "He's unelectable," "He's an isolationist." If you truly believe those things then you are calling our Founding Fathers those same names.
Understanding Ron Paul's ideas go beyond 60 second answers during televised debates. Do just a little bit of research on his voting record. Or better yet, read a copy of any of his books. If you still have the same opinion afterward, then fine. At least it will then be a fully educated opinion, and I can respect that.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:38:55 PM
Tom H
I won't vote for Romney EVER. Why would I vote for Obama lite when I can have the real thing? I won't vote for Newt EVER as he is Bill Clinton lite and we have already had enough Slick Willie-ism. I won't vote for Ron Paul EVER. He blames the USA for 9-11. Anyone who does that is a card carrying moron unfit to be dogcatcher much less POTUS. I'll never vote for another Texan as President. With LBJ we got the Great Society and Vietnam; with W we got an unfunded drug card and Iraq. What unconstitutional spending program and war will Rick Perry give us? That leaves Michele Bachmann as the only conservative that is really a conservative and didn't lose their last election.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:40:33 PM
Steve
It seems everyone forgets that the two busses are what caused the fatalities for following too close. Perhaps they should pass a law about that.....
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:42:19 PM
Swamp Gas
Ron Paul must be kin to the pied piper keeping his numbers as high as they are. While all of the candidates have gaffed and Govenor Perry his share, no one can duplicate the doozies by Obama, the point is while Ron Paul has said some things that make sense, give him a few minutes and he is off to Disneyland again.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:44:39 PM
Okeefenokee Swampfox
Quite frankly, I'm pleased.
In spite of Gingrich's shortcomings, I believe he is the best of the candidates to pull America back from the brink of total destruction. He understands better than all (with the possible exception of Romney) the problems facing the country and the history that created those problems, and I believe he has the intellect and courage to recommend policies that will overcome those problems. I also believe that his experience in successfully brokering political agreements at the national level makes him much better qualified to overcome the gridlock we now see on Capitol Hill.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:47:06 PM
Craig Phillips
Why do you keep purporting this myth that Romney is the "godfather of ObamaCare"? That's like saying Henry Ford is the godfather of carjacking! How many times does he have to say that it is a STATE'S right!?! He would NOT push this on the nation! Massachusetts wanted it. We need to find a way to fix the health care problem in this country, and the States laboratory is a great way to do it. That's what he believes, and that's what he's tried to do.
I think Romney is the best Republican candidate (by far) since Ronald Reagan. Not that he's in that class, but I'm WAY more excited for him than I was for Bush, Dole, "W", McCain, or any of the others who didn't even make the party nomination in the last 20 years. While any of today's candidates is FAR superior to Obama, I don't understand the whole "anti-Romney" sentiment. He's not "The Messiah". He has weaknesses. But what are his *major* failings? He's smart, articulate, principled, honest, conservative (fiscally and socially), patriotic, and diplomatic. He knows the economy and has a great understanding of foreign policy.
And Jon Huntsman? Are you kidding me? You wonder "what if" with Jon Huntsman? Seriously, the only thing keeping him from being a better pick in your mind than Mitt Romney is if he had run a better campaign"??? If that's true, my estimation of your collective opinion just dropped significantly.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:48:31 PM
David Reiter
Foolishly in search of truth, that's me. I have been told that there is no Social Security Trust Fund. It doesn't exist. Maybe never has. And yet right here in the Patriot Post's own words, there it is. An accepted fact. Pardon me while I take a moment to be confused.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:50:06 PM
Frank W Bagrier
I would like to see Paul Ryan and the governor in New Jersey enter the race.
Also, I believe that Romney and Newt Gingrich are solid candidates. The infighting among all the candidates is hurting all of their reputations.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:50:31 PM
Don G. Dinsdale
I like Newt (even with his baggage from yesteryear(s)...
I think he is smarter than the rest of the field, and I think he has what it takes to turn off Obama's socialist programs and get the Nation moving forward as the strong leader we have been in the past decades...
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:51:16 PM
Deraca
I'm surprised that it is even questioned whether using such a distraction shouldn't be banned. People are dying or maimed because some stupid A** can't pull over to make a call or text message. A simple answer would be to require all phones to include a GPS chip that shuts down the device when it detects movement over 5 MPH.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:53:35 PM
George Durant
Bob up at the top has it right with Michele Bachmann but I just don't think the country is ready for a woman president. I think if it was she would be much higher in the polls. Who knows maybe she will pull a Scott Brown. I also agree that all of them would make a great team in the White House.
Not until the tea party and Obama shoving his lousy unlawful health care down our throats not many pols were paying attention to the Constitution which is evidenced by their records. Are they serious about it now? Who knows for sure until one of them gets elected, right? But let's face it most politicians and quite a few judges have been stomping on the Constitution for a long time so it will be hard to find that "Constitutional" candidate to begin with but in time we will truly see where they stand.
I like that Newt knows and understands his American History because that is where we need to get back to, "the basics". Many solutions that were being talked about last night in Iowa have their roots in Our Constitution. Why? Because they got it right 200 years ago. I think Newt would handle Obama the best and I do believe somewhere inside him he is a true Patriotic American as Reagan was. I just hope he will dig down deep, grab it, pull it out and hold on to it.
Now I have to say that Ron Paul scared the hell out of me last night about Iran which makes me think he has or is going senile. I don't advocate war per say but I beleive our President needs to show strenght and resolve in the face of our enemies not like the bean brain in office does now. We need a leader who can get back in touch with the why and how this nation was created, remember all the blood that was shed, the property destroyed and that many of the "Fathers" died in bankruptcy and then retake this heritage and lead us back into becoming once again the greatest nation on the face of the earth. God Bless America!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:56:37 PM
robert
Iraq was a big mistake.Now watch what happens.
We must stop spending our blood and treasure to keep Sunni and Shia from killing each other.
Let other major players(China,Russia, India,Europe...) take that role.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:56:45 PM
Lee
Is Newt a liberal? A RINO? Another John McCain? I think this clears it up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7NQO5r9_qk&feature=digest_thu
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:58:57 PM
Don from CA
Unless America steps away from lawlessness & corruption, and returns to abiding by the foundational precepts of our Constitution, the angst that Obama could indeed win again remains a distinct possibility. If elected Republican officials, Presidential candidates and/or so-called conservative broadcasters were to end their immoral coverup of Obama's illegitimate presidency (not a natural born citizen; not born of 2 U.S. citizen parents), we could immediately eliminate the head of this evil snake from the White House. But alas, the Marxist communist demise of America continues unabated.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 12:59:59 PM
Richard Tennesen
The only one with the possibility of being a Biblical-constitutionalist, Herman Cain, appears to have been eliminated. Our only hope is a series of events that God brings about to bring His man to the leadership of our country.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:02:13 PM
charlie gregory
Your comment IMO is right on:
But how do you arrange a candidacy for VA Gov
Bob McDonnell - - thoroughly vetted, achiever, clean effective executive . . . .
I be but a precinct grunt, given tutorials by my betters that state laws about campaigns - - rules, regs - - prohibit a late entrant.
Pls Lord, give us a brokered convention for a quality qualified candidate . . . .
charlie
Raleigh
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:03:55 PM
Jack Murphy
I recently had a letter printed in Winter Haven Florida's News Chief regarding what was done to Herman Cain. A key point in the letter was that we are letting the scab-picking media set their agenda for our Republican primary. We need to focus solidly on what our candidates know about history, foreign affairs, the economy, management and such. Kennedy and Clinton had immoral proclivities, but were able to handle the job of president. They are not running for church leadership. My letter is below, if you can use it. It is also posted on the personal webpage of Joe Braddy, former managing editor of the news Chief. It is at: www.Polk Commentary.com
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Those in news media excel in negativity, scab-picking
Sunday, Dec. 11, 2011
By JACK MURPHY
FROSTPROOF, Fla. — The depth of this recession has left all Americans in a mood just as deep as the economy around us. I maintain that the collective world of media, both print and television, has failed miserably in its contribution to our nation’s welfare. Far too many of its members are more interested in profit than public service. The public, remember, is the source of their profit.
With the destruction of Republican Herman Cain’s bid for the presidency, we see the media at its worst. The period leading up to the presidential election is the time when we need to learn as much as we can about a candidate’s leadership skills, his political strengths, his knowledge of world affairs and plans for our future.
Instead, when a salacious story surfaces, the tabloid-style media vultures descend on the subject to find the scabs to pick. The most important qualities of a candidate get lost in a feeding frenzy of malevolence.
One does not have to go very far back into history to find evidence of presidents with checkered backgrounds who managed to serve out their times in office successfully. Presidents Kennedy and Clinton come to mind immediately. Despite moral failings, they had enough of the right skills to serve their citizens appropriately in matters most important to the post they held.
The tabloid vultures would have us place private weaknesses before all else. Those of us who have read the Bible know that it teaches us to render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s. I don’t say these are acceptable qualities, but these things are God’s to handle.
Politics is the area that is Caesar’s realm. We must not let these vultures remove our choices to structure our political landscape to their liking.
If former House Speaker Newt Gingrich emerges as the Republican choice for president, you wait and see, they will pounce on him for more scab picking.
Our economy desperately needs positive leadership. We need the good, decent ethical members of the media, and there are more of them than vultures, to come forth and show the proper course of action.
We need investigative reporters to scout for any business that has hired anyone. It doesn’t matter whether it is a fast-food restaurant, department store or a junkyard business. On a daily basis, we need to see interviews with the new hires and hear their stories. We need to hear how long they were out of work and living on macaroni and cheese, and how happy they are now to be better able to provide for their families.
We need these stories facing us every day of our recession-dominated lives. We need the good journalists to swamp the scab-picking vultures with solid, positive evidence of a recession turnaround.
Let us stop feeding the fantasies of peeping Toms. We, the people, deserve better than that.
Jack Murphy of Maine is a winter resident of Frostproof, Fla. He can be reached by e-mail at jackmurphy27@gmail.com.
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Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:06:54 PM
Mike M.
I'm tired of this silly argument. We ALREADY have such laws on the books of every state. The laws are called "Dangerous Driving" laws. If someone is driving erratically while on a cell phone, they deserve to be cited for dangerous driving - just as a person all over the road while eating or drinking should. We don't need anymore redundant laws. What's next, a ban on changing your car radio station? Here's the bottom line; every time you enact a new law, you lose a little freedom. I think we've already lost enough freedom.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:07:15 PM
lfodft
Romney the RINO will never be elected. Newt needs to spend more time letting the people know he recognizes the blunders of "global warming", is solidly pro gun and 2nd amendment by reversing all infringment laws, and get behind the fair tax. He is electable then.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:08:20 PM
Jim
The worse the economy grows, the more the White House can repeat the Obama slogan, "The buck stops somewhere else!"
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:08:59 PM
Barry Payne
Newt summed it up for me when he said, "he never took any money from an organization he did not believe in". This was to deflect charges of being a lobbyist. Nice to known that most Republicans want someone who believes in Freddie Mac to be President.
A 5% protest vote will do more good for America than a 99% vote for the same two Parties. Remember how both Parties changed while Perot was around. It is beyond me why anyone would vote for either Party.
Barry Payne, Titular Despot Emeritus
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:09:07 PM
George Durant
Hi Tom H.
You wrote, Ron Paul EVER. He blames the USA for 9-11. Anyone who does that is a card carrying moron unfit to be dogcatcher..
I don't agree or disagree right now but read some American History if you haven't already and you will see that tragic events like 9-11 have been called into question many times before. The most notable is Pearl Harbor.
Many times we don't want to believe that our federal government would cause or allow for something like this to happen but because of the "Age of Information" we are seeing how corrupt the People's government has been and continues to be. They have done or allowed many terrible things to happen in our country. Just a thought.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:10:05 PM
ONTIME
Simply put, each of those credentialed people speaking from that lectern in quest of being the Republican nominee to run for POTUS is ten times more qualified and smarter than the uncredentialed fraud presently in the WH.
Whoever gains the nomination should have the guts to ask this known fraud in public, "Just who the hell are you and can you prove it?"
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:11:06 PM
VT Conservative
Newt is a smart cookie but not a consistent conservative - his morality is deficient and he's flipped on too many issues - especially gun control and big government/spending vs. constitutional first principles.
Romney is a RINO - and he can't quite bring himself to admit that the MA Health Care law was a mistake. Any leader that can't cop to an obvious mistake is off my radar.
Huntsman is a RINO on too many issues.
Bachmann is a solid conservative but is not quite ready for prime time - especially debates.
Perry is also a solid conservative but I fear that he will not be able to score the needed points in a debate with the Annointed One.
Paul is OK on many issues but does not properly grasp the complexities of foreign policy.... isolationism is simply not the answer in the modern global stage. If the gobal situation wasn't quite so challenging than perhaps he could be boot-strapped by well chosen advisors but nowadays there's no time for OTJ training. I also think the Annointed One will eat his lunch in the debates - remember, there is a strong block of voters that will vote on "appearance" and who they "like" vs. actual substance.
I really like Santorum's conservative credentials and presence/presentation. I would vote for him in a minute, but he'll never get a break from the MSM so his nomination isn't in the cards.
I'm not happy with our likely choices.... I only hope I can find something to help me swallow hard and vote for one of the less appealing choices if they get the nomination. If they're smart they would pick Santorum or Bachmann for VP, which might provide the sugar to help the medicine go down.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:11:07 PM
Alton
Hey Telezer, the annointed one was going to fix the quote mess, bring us together as a country, have dialog with our enemies. But what he accomplished is, he has created more debt in 3 years than any administration combined. Remember he owned the Congress until last November. Three years he hasn't submitted no even one budet. He claims it is Bush's fault because of the Iraq war. This war granted cost us just a tad under 1 trillion and that's huge, but what happened to other 5 trillion? His diplomacy sucks. He calls Ahmadinejad and asks for the Drone back and the reply is shut your pie hole you idiot. Obama has trashed the Constitutiion. Three more years and the documents of our Framers will be reduced to waste. Obama has been a disaster
and four more years of him, this country will not exist as we know it, and opinions may put us in one of his detention camps. What a tragedy, the last best hope for planet earth, the USA is being reduced to something unrecognizeable. One more thing Telezer, the last two years of the Bush administration was owned by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Enough said.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:13:48 PM
lfodft
send obama the traitor and his big butt wife to Iraq, revoke their citizenship, if he even has one, and try all the dems for treason, hangings to begin at dawn!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:17:27 PM
Chris G.
There ought be a law banning children from talking and fighting in automobiles. That's distracting.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:17:30 PM
eloi rubio
never should have been there. or in afganistan either. those people will forever be a tribal universe and nothing we do will change that. they hate anyone not like them, they hate each other and most of all, they hate us. that whole middle east area is a sorry example of humanity and we should stay the heck out of it or they will pull us in after them into that dar abyss of death and destruction. let's handle out own national problems and leave those dark age people alone. ...
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:18:31 PM
Jack
In a word, lame. Ron Paul, maybe, but only if he changes his foriegn policy ideas. I agree with one, get out of the UN.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:18:54 PM
Gator
I occasionally forward the Patrot Post and especially the comments to my Congressman's office, with note to them if they want to get a pulse and a feel for what people are saying and feeling, just read the comments by the readers. One more thing, everyone has an opinion and their favorite candidate. Remember one thing, what really counts is, JOB ONE IS DEFEATING OBAMA.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:23:09 PM
JohnB
Frustratingly disappointing!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:26:11 PM
Al Lovitz
Another field of "mudders". Of course, after the last Presidential election, I'd just about pick anyone except McCain (the election results in '08 said about the same thing. I'm sorry to see Herman Cain drop out, as he was my leading candidate. So what's left? Romney-a conservative (?) from a liberal state is really a liberal. Perry-can't put two related words together in a debate, which hasn't helped him at all. Bachman-maybe a little too melodramatic with her conservatism and thus not taken seriously. And then we have Newt-who has had a heck of a time getting his raging hormones under control (of course it didn't hurt "Bubba's" position with his supporters on the Left), and his payoff by Freddie Mack didn't elate me either. However, he did mastermind the GOP take over of the House (Throw the bums out.), which I'm not sure anyone on the current landscape could have pulled it off - a plus in my view. His "reaching across the isle" to Nancy Pelosi on the green house effect didn't endear him to many Conservatives either. But, when all is said and done, I feel Newt is the best bet. I admit, he is polarizing, but he's smart, well spoken, and comes across as a guy that I can support. Let's see what happens. Keeping in mind that I'd just about vote for anyone other than Mr. Osama, err Obama.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:32:05 PM
georgewboat
Overall very good, Lot of Great ideas and thoughts,
Not one of them is the PERFECT canadate, All of them
and any one of the is ok
The last PERFECT guy for the job was OBAMA worked well HUH ??
I like what i here from the canadates overall,
LET ME BE CLEAR< WE MUST< ABSOULTY HAVE TO<
VOTE OUT OBAMA "OMG"OMG"OMG.
We must vote for and strongly support the CANADATE
THAT WINS THE Nomanation Whoever that is.
A NO VOTE IS A VOTE FOR OBAMA.
OBAMA = no JOBS,no GUNS,no LIBERTY,no FREEDOM OF SPEACH,And no UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Also VOTE consertive in all elections local, state
and federal, Take the time to ck out all persons running for ANY PUBLIC OFFICE,
My test is the second admendment, if they dont support it thay will not support the CONSTATUTION
PERIOD.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:32:54 PM
Hamilton
To: MNIce
Re-posting in case you missed this from yesterday's Patriot Post.
I'm glad you're not waiting on the government for anything, and I meant to say in my earlier post, kudos to you for not relying on some sort of government entitlement program. Even though I don't know what they are or what they're called, I do know that there are a lot more entitlement programs than you could imagine. And each one of them has ways in which it can be gamed - ways in which people can fraud their way to getting money out of them, that they aren't qualified for.
My larger point in all this is that society is almost universally unable to see the evolutionary process that has lead this country to the 47%. This is because just like evolution, the process happened in small increments. The 47% didn't just happen overnight. It happened as a result of numerous legislative changes including but certainly not limited to: the progressive tax rate system, tax deductions and exemptions, the minimum wage, the poverty line, tax thresholds, etc.
If society and government see low wages as a problem, then the solution should involve steps to achieve a "living wage" (something that the ding-dong Al Gore tried to champion). Why? Because the goal should be for every family to be able to support themselves AND to be able to pay taxes, all without having to have ten jobs, which they wouldn't have time for anyway. If anyone thinks that it is easy for employers to pay their low-wage employees very low wages, well, it is much easier for those employers to pay low wages when the employees are on government entitlement programs that supplement their income! You see, entitlement programs actually subvert the private sector job market. They counteract the market forces that would compel employers to pay their low-wage earners more. The result is artificially low wages at the low end, and an ever-widening gap between the rich and the poor. Since Liberals champion entitlement programs, it's ironic that they generally complain about wide income gaps. These entitlement programs (i.e. income redistribution) actually exacerbate the problem; it's an example of the cure actually causing the disease.
So my objection, if not a revelation to Liberal fools, is that liberal ideology in government causes all this - sometimes inadvertently with some Liberals, but in the case of Obama - I think it is by intent. You will never see Obama trying to figure out a way for low-wage earners to earn more because he wants them dependent on government and he doesn't want them to pay taxes. He wants their numbers to grow so that they out-vote the number of taxpayers. This is the road to socialism.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:35:18 PM
RayC55
Unbelievable! I think Obama must be smiling because of the discord within the GOP .
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:37:03 PM
Merry Colin
I was impressed by many of the answers last night and every candidate had at least one. I was not disappointed last night EXCEPT I wish each candidate was asked the same question and given a one minute answer period. The moderators pick who they want to hear or who they want to "pick on". Maybe better is, if a question is specific to a certain candidate, if that candidate refutes an accusation BY ATTACKING another candidate, then THAT candidate ought be given time to respond. My take on the debate, in no particular order:
Santorum: Think the BO machine would eat him alive because he's just too kind. He is a smart man with a lot of good ideas and firm convictions. Better than BO and I don't think anyone can question his honor or patriotism.
Ron Paul: Bright man who knows the Constitution and is determined to live by it. Same type of problem with the BO machine and, like it or not, his frail look and verbal stumbling will not endear him to sheeple or the younger crowd. If he can't make Congress work with him now, how the heck would he do it as President? I agree that we ought bring most if not all of our troops home, to save money, to stop "nation building", and to save lives. However, his take on the danger in the ME is a bit off. Too much, too little, or too soon seem to be his policies. His record is solid.
Romney: Something doesn't sit right with me there. People have been my business all of my life. My BS detector registers higher with him than the others. Don't know why but I feel he will not be able to beat BO. His record is so-so. He looks "presidential" but really doesn't come off as more than an actor.
Newt: Never at a loss for a GREAT answer and could beat the BO machine blindfolded and hog-tied. Truly interested in the "strategy" of encouraging the economy along and being a "peace through strength" (or draw the line) kind of guy. He is truly looking forward and routinely tells us ANYONE of the candidates would be his choice against BO. I have no doubt that he is being honest there. In a debate with BO, he'd kick his butt and then some. His experience with Reagan and as a Speaker are solid gold. His PERSONAL life ain't my business unless he was a child molester, scammer (Bernie style), or murderer.
Jon Huntsman: Just a bit too high on himself; comes across as arrogant and "above the crowd". Smart man, good ideas, but just a bit too focused on himself.
Michele Bachman: Regardless of her credentials listed above by Bob and others, she is the "soundbite" woman. Also, she spends more time attacking the other candidates than any other. She is no Maggie Thatcher nor is she a Sarah Palin. She doesn't think well on her feet regardless of her storied intelligence. I have a hard time getting past the gobs of makeup and false eyelashes. Again, BO machine would kill her. She is, in my opinion, the worst of the candidates and she is doing much more harm than good with her attacks. Her sole focus is on HER beating BO; apparently no one else can in her thinking.
Perry: A great cowboy, and an unashamed speaker of the truth. Willing to take the hits for past wrong decisions. Not a great orator BUT I get a strong sense that what he says is truly what he believes. My doubt is whether he would be able to act on those beliefs if all stated were true. I worry about his inexperience in the national scene and his alliances with big business.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:40:40 PM
georgwwboat
To TOM H
you are a moron, With your stupid attitude we will never get out of this mess we are in.
WE have to climb the ladder it would be nice to jump to the top but one step at a time is better than sitting at the bottom and COMPLAINING.
Wake up dummy
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:40:43 PM
James
If the best we can do for the highest office in the free world in 2012 is a choice between Romney/Gingrich on one hand, and Obama on the other......then our country is in far worse shape than we even think it is. Shameful.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:47:16 PM
James Pogue
Right now it's Newt and Romney. Newt has the edge in spite of his past baggage. Newt is a known conservative and his performance history is mostly positive. He knows how to deal with the progressive liberals, by holding a carrot in front of their noses. Romney's history of liberal leaning is a liability. His own Romneycare will not be forgotten.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:52:58 PM
J H Streber
The US and the world are in such a mess, when I visualize our future President, nose to nose with
the Iranians, Syrians, Pakastanys, Russians, Chinese; etc., Plus the homegrown troublemakers,
The ONLY person I want there is NEWT! This election will decide whether or not our great country survives. God Bless us all......
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:55:36 PM
Harry Moore
I wish Herman Cain were still in the race. He has the best credentials and the best track record. We don't need another politician in office.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:55:42 PM
James Pogue
Samuel Adams said it best: "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands, which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:56:59 PM
Tom West
If we really want freedom ,as our forefathers wanted when the constitution was written, we will vote for Ron Paul, the ONLY 'constitution only' candidate with a 30 year record of being the same.Old habits are hard to break.His 'kooky ideas' ,as has been stated in some previous posts, seem kooky only because the persons saying this have been obviously brainwashed by the modernistic globalists who own the media. Do you REALLY think we do not have enough farm land, enough manufacturing capability and technology, as well as a capable work force, to be 'isolated'? In essence,what you are saying is , "Americans are too weak, too dumb, and a whole lot of other negative things , to be independent..to be isolationists."
As a patriotic American, THAT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 1:58:10 PM
James Pogue
It ain't over just because our little muslim president says so. America is more unsecure today than it was in 2008. The removing of troops from Iraq will make the world less secure.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:01:48 PM
Bob
Should the use of cell phones be banned while driving? Absolutely - as soon as you ban every other thing in a car that can distract the driver: radio, cd / mp3 player, gps and of course, other people!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:03:10 PM
Brrrr
When I see all the obstacles facing the nation in 2012 and well beyond, the only rational choice of those presently running would be Gingrich. We need to back him up with a solid VP though, someone who he can respect and will listen to. My first choice would have been Cain, but Perry is a fine second choice for that position. I like Palin too, but feel that she would be more of a detriment in the campaign for national acceptance, not because of her qualifications.
We need a way to keep Newt focused on what he promised to do and not allow him to wander or to declare himself too smart or worldly to do the bidding of the electorate.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:03:55 PM
Tom H
To georgwwboat
You sir are merely a troll. If you are going to talk smack about someone's OPINION being stupid and try using an ad hominem attack against them you may wish to check your own post for stupidity. It would be nice if while making an argument for a conservative position you could even spell conservative (it's NOT consertive). Also it is candidates NOT candadates; Nomination NOT nomanation; Constitution NOT constatution; amendment NOT admendment. People like you sir are the ones are liberal friend will point to as being the symbol of an uneducated Conservative. Have a nice day and ask for a dictionary for Christmas DUMMY.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:04:38 PM
M Rick Timms, MD
Herman Cain - Now more than ever!
We have let the left media pick our candidates for us again - damit!
It will be the House and Senate that will guide the course to recovery IF we elect conservatives in the Republican primaries. Ant president will have to go along with conservative momentum if we win control of congress with more folks like Allen West, et al.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:05:42 PM
T Dawson
After watching the CBS debate in its entirety (ten minutes would have been enough), I can say how I see the line up. I saw a business man (now dropped out) and that can be good and bad. I saw a patriot with an excellent understanding of the Constitution and a solid knowledge / respect of the ideals of the Founders, and I saw several car salesmen who would frankly give many car salespeople a bad rap.
The only GOP contender with proven integrity and respect for the rule of law is Dr Ron Paul. Dr Paul was the only candidate who did not utter the name "Obama", as he had more productive ideas to discuss. He isn't pretty and his voice is grating, so there is no way he can win, as we have become sheep and value appearance above integrity.
What is wrong with America has far less to do with politician and MSM lies than it does with Americans who believe them. Hearts and minds. Brushfires of Freedom in the minds of men. A return to the ideals of a bunch of determined New England farmers and shop keepers is the only thing that can save us from ourselves.
It is in vane sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry Peace! Peace!, but there is no peace. The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms. Our Brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that Gentlemen wich? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? FORBID IT ALMIGHTY GOD! I know not what others might do, but as for me, give me Liberty or give me death!
Patrick Henry - America's foremost Liberal in the true sense of the term. Where is he now when we need him so badly? He's dead - they all are. Their duty is done. It's up to us now - it's our turn to save Liberty for our posterity, just as they did for theirn.
Please take a closer look at Dr Paul - look at his deeds, as they are the only measure of any man.
In Liberty,
T Dawson
TD
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:05:58 PM
James Pogue
Banning cell phone usage is just another unenforceable feel good law. Why make a law that cannot or will not be enforced?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:06:50 PM
Barbara
I have seen so many drivers on cell phones and are so distracted that they caused an "almost" accident and drove away not even being aware of it...still talking on their phones. Before cell phones what did we do? Stayed safe. Just pull off the road if you need to talk on your cell. So far nothing has been done to make these people realize how dangerous it is...so ... as much as I'm against making more regulations, I think this one is necessary because MY LIFE is in danger...and YOURS.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:06:56 PM
Robert
Every time I read one of these editorials which inexplicably downplay Ron Paul's obviously superior credentials as a consistent Constitutionalist with exactly the right policies that America needs right now, BOTH domestic and foreign, I react by donating another $100 to his campaign.
Like the Pharisees of old, the Patriot and many of its readers are so blinded by their misguided dogma, they fail to see the obvious solution when its standing in front of their face.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:08:20 PM
Lawrence Loveless
For Miss America we select from 50 contestants. For the President of the USA we select from less than 10. Of the two left in the GOP running I WOULDN'T VOTE EITHER FOR DOGCATCHER. Either the GOP comes up with a viable candidate or O'bama will win by attrition!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:14:45 PM
becky
no there should not be a ban. I don't like talking or texting while driving but personal responsibility needs to be taken up here. if the government dictates all our actions, we will soon be a nation of people that cannot think for themselves.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:15:28 PM
Trudy
I'm so tired of the nagging: wear a seatbelt, put on sunscreen, have a mammogram, get a flu shot, don't say that word, you must tolerate this......Nag, Nag, Nag. Is anyone listening anymore? Not me. Pretty soon they'll be wiping our noses and tushes for us.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:15:38 PM
Merry Colin
States banning cellphones? Hmmm...the NTSB is "recommending" this to the States? In a pig's eye! Like seat belts, if the States don't get on board, the feds will do it for them.
What do I think? I guess it ALWAYS depends on where you live-- urban or rural? Sheeple or smarties? When the statewide ban on smoking in bars came to AZ I was on my motorcycle in a one-horse town that had a three stool "bar" and package store in the middle of NOWHERE. Do you REALLY think that State law made any sense to the smoking proprietor? Do ya' think he "obeyed" it or forced his very rare visitors to adhere to it? Most laws are made for dummies using the lowest common denominator and their origin is in heavily populated urban areas. Just plain ol' dumb.
It's like highway speed limits--- YES my fellow Americans, a Ferrari handles better at 100 mph than a Honda Civic will. The people who use the autobahn get this--- why can't we?
How about a law that states, if you are on a cell phone, drunk, or are (using common sense here) otherwise distracted and you are involved in an accident that results in the loss of a life (or great bodily injury) YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHT TO EVER DRIVE IN ANY STATE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE? What idiot doesn't recognize that a car is an extremely dangerous and formidable deadly weapon, more so than a gun in most cases?
For accidents involving the same above where there is property damage, let the insurance companies make the rules for THEIR customers!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:17:28 PM
Harry Tesch
Ron Paul is the most honest!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:25:36 PM
Socrates
I think the states can make their own laws and not have the feds dictate what must go on in the state.The scary thing is the feds want to outlaw tye use of electronic devices in the vehicles which would include CB Radios.That would really tck off truckers.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:31:02 PM
ned
As cell phone use has been increasing, accident rates have been falling. Perhaps we should outlaw driving without a cell phone.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:33:42 PM
Richard
The candidate ignored by all - Ron Paul, the only candidate from either side qualified to be president. I'm sure he is ignored by the media because they are terrified of him.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:37:39 PM
RICK NADLER
Texting has been shown to be more distracting (read dangerous) than driving with a blood alcohol of 0.10, so if we are not going to restrict texting, what does that say about the laws on drunk driving. I don't want any more government control, so maybe we should implement criminal penalties -if-you are on the phone or texting and become involved in an accident. Phone records are easily accessable...
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:39:42 PM
John
I heard in this last debate what I already suspected: that Bachman will continue the march to the new world order with America as the enforcer, and Paul is the Constitutionalist supporting a strong defense posture while getting our own financial house in order. As the CJCS acknowledged recently, the biggest long term threat to our national security is our burgeoning status as a debtor nation (essentially bankrupt on our present course!), and no candidate recognizes the actual order of threats to our freedom and continued national prosperity better than Ron Paul. He speaks the sound foreign policy and domestic policy that I support as a career military officer dedicated to supporting and defending the US Constitution. I propose that President Paul will be the most direct and forceful President we could have when it comes to directly defending American lives and honor around the world, while simultaneously minimizing unnecessary foreign entanglements.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:40:06 PM
Dr Karkota
I don't know. I like Gingrich's Washington experience. He knows where the "bodies are buried," but he also has a lot of negative experience. Romney has put his career over his party in more than one case while he was Gov. of my state. Ron Paul, like the other candidates has no "presence." Perry is too "stiff," both in appearance and in his campaign. My opinion really doesn't matter, since by the time we vote in the primary, the die will have been cast.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:43:31 PM
Ed Noyes
You're missing the boat; You've bought into the neo- conservatives who use fear to advance their agenda. Unless you like the military industrial complex and the death and dismemberments of endless thousands, you have to acknowledge Ron Paul as the one candidate who saw through the lies and war propaganda. The other candidates have no credibility on this issue.
Ron's the One!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:44:55 PM
Rick Herceg
I have been a big fan of Ron Paul since the 80's. To Paul supporters, I would say with regard to his foreign policy, we live in a much smaller world than at the time of our forefathers. Isolationism is not an option in this ever-shrinking, dangerous world. However, we could be doing a much better job at managing our foreign interests and spending. I think many Conservatives would support Paul if he was more incremental in describing his solutions. He can still hold to his beliefs (even state them) while describing the underlying changes that have to be made to our defense policies while supporting our current security measures and systems. Part of leading people is giving them a vision of how and why your plan will work. Most Americans will need more time to buy in to his plan. We need leaders who understand both the Constitution and foreign affairs as they affect our national interests. I would like to see him propose realistic incremental solutions that can be implemented immediately. Until Americas are more engaged and educated they will be ready to follow a great leader. I would like to hear about the first few of several smaller steps on the road to wiser use of resources at home and abroad before implementing idealistic isolationist policies. I believe Newt decisively supports liberty. He provides the historically strongest and most constitutionally logical solutions to our challenges. He frames them in a do-able package and backs them with an unrivaled ability to lead and communicate. Romney is good but overall does not have the "political savvy" to beat back the progressive malaise we find ourselves in. Santorum is more of my style of Conservative. He would be a good followup to 4 or 8 years of Gingrich. BTW - I'd still wholeheartedly support any of the Republican candidates over Obama.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:50:46 PM
Feduke
Romney is intelligent, a fine record in both the private and public sectors, and has wonderful moral values. He is infinitely superior to Obama in every respect.
Gingrich is pompous, self absorbed, unpredictable, a loose cannon and unelectable.
It's no contest; we must go with Romney.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:55:35 PM
Chris Miller
I would like to see the candidates adhere to the Reagen 11th commandment. I like the candidates. I believe they make some excellent points. But those watching are tired of the bickering. In fact there was a poll a number if weeks ago showing that the candidates who were nice to their fellow candidates were getting the support of the folks. I want to hear solid information and solid planning. I think anyone of the candidates could defeat the clown in the office. Of course, if the Republican establishment continues in its idiotic ways I would suspect that those in the Tea Party will step up to take control of that party. If you aren't getting in touch with your congressman, senator and the RNC and giving them a large piece of your mind, you are not doing your job.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:56:33 PM
Tony
The current field leaves a lot to be desired, to say the least. What would be a great start to a successful Republican Presidentcy would be to draft Christe from the convention floor. Christe could beat the obamination. Drafting him from the floor would certainly generate tremendous interest and would limit the time democrats had to prepare their pool of lies and perverted truths.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 2:58:48 PM
Monette
Iraq - "inclusive?" Unless a person is a Christian or non-Muslim.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:03:21 PM
Don Trodahl
I would rather see Newt Gingrich win the nomination than either Ron Paul or Mitt Romney. I realize that in the past Newt did some dumb things and I can report I did to. We are looking to oust a president that has taken this country so far left it teeters on it's destruction. We need someone in government that has the ability to reform the system and Newt has the history to show that he can. As a Christian I could not vote for Romney because of his Mormonism. Ron Paul is too isolationist and in the way the world works we need someone who is more open to see that this ideology is foolish.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:04:31 PM
George R
I have subscribe to Human Events for years. After the attack article by Ann Coulter about Newt hit the media, she went from the top of my list to the bottom. I came close to cancelling my subscription. Does she think Newt is going to stalk her?
Now comes more negative media about Newt et al from the Patriot Post. Shame on you. It puts me in an unscribe mood. Keep your attack dogs in the Democrat arena. If you must deal in party baggage, a good start is the book "Presidential Sex".
There is nothing wrong with outstanding intelligence. Newt is the only one who can handle the over abundant lies and BS from Obummer's mouth in the presidential debate. Newt for sure 2012..... Twenty three family member votes from Liberal Maine.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:10:29 PM
Monty
Take the intellect of Gingrich with the consistent conservatism of Bachmann, and then you have an unbeatable candidate
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:10:45 PM
Douglas Allan
I'm a conservative Republican of Libertarian bent. Nevertheless, cell phone use of any kind while operating a moving vehicle should be TOTALLY BANNED with very severe penalties. I have twice nearly been killed by distracted soccer moms paying no attention to pedestrians, and multiple times nearly been in an accident with a distracted driver.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:10:47 PM
Hawkfan
I think the quote of the day says it all. "In selecting men for office, let principle be your guide. Regard not the particular sect or denomination of the candidate -- look to his character." --Noah Webster
In that, I think Romney is a better choice than Newt.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:13:23 PM
James
So you don't like the Cycle of Democrary or its start either according to your article. I am assuming you will come out and say the Same for havinf or being a Republic; please tell us what type of government you do like. I thought I was reading from the thoughts of 0bama.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:13:57 PM
Eric Seitz
In an election that the Democrat incumbent must lose for us to maintain our very liberties, the Republican party is throwing garbage into the ring. Is it too late (and I shudder) to bring back Sarah Palin?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:14:57 PM
Jim Butler
@Georgewboat...Are you for real? No one over 12 years of age can misspell as many words as you have in your post. To be taken seriously, please use spell check. At least then you could be considered semi-literate
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:15:31 PM
Paul Henry
Jonah Goldberg said: "If, however, you think these are crazy and extraordinary times, then perhaps they call for a crazy, extraordinary — very high-risk, very high-reward — figure like Gingrich."
Tony Blankley said: "In dangerous times, the safer choice for president is not the candidate who has always played it safe, nor is it the candidate who has not already faced and defeated adversity."
We now have a traitor in the White House and America has never faced more dangerous times. Accordingly, Gingrich is the clear choice to reverse course and give America a chance to recover
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:16:43 PM
Harold (Wyatt)
As for S/S, they stole from it for years : It's pay back time.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:16:48 PM
Rodney D spry
NO.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:22:10 PM
Tom
Yes. Ban all forms of distractions, except car radios.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:37:44 PM
Fritzie
To Becky: Sadly in many cases we are a nation of people who do not or will not THINK and act wisely. Riding motorcycles without helmets????? And cell phone usage while driving?????? How sad, but we really do need laws for those who seem not to care about themselves or the rest of us.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:38:11 PM
Tom McComb
I see that The Patriot Post is the latest entrant at "Newt bashing" and I hope, now that you've had your turn in the barrel, you'll come to your senses and realize, notwithstanding some Gingrich baggage, he is the only candidate capable of governing as president---Romney would be the second choice. I am not at all interested in what someone has or has not done in the past---criminal activity excluded---but what the individual can do to get this country out of the deep morass in which we find ourselves. Mr. Gingrich certainly fits that mold and he's the only one who has offered concrete proposals relative to both foreign and domedstic matters. I am a conservative; however, the Republican party needs a candidate who can go up against Obama and ultimately win. That's what the game plan should be---not that the individual was paid by Fredie or Fannie or has been married three times. Out of the remaining candidates whom do you think can win? Paul, Bachmann, Santorum, Perry, Huntsman? Hardly! Mitt is the only other viable candidate. Let's stop all the carping about the past and begin looking for the qualities that make for a president. In my opinion Newt has them.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:38:59 PM
Don
Ho-hum, the GOP better look at someone other than "one of the good old boys" or they're flushing the country down the toilet.
BTW, I'm age 71 and hoping they will find a YOUNGER candidate that appeals to the set that voted in BO.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:44:27 PM
Trapshtr
In a word...Pathetic
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:51:15 PM
George
Another election with dismal candidates (Romney, Gingrich, Paul) in opposition to a well-financed, well-organized socialist campaign aided and abetted by the national media which glorifies an incompetent, perhaps even a malevolent enemy of the US. If ever we needed a statesman/stateswoman to rise, it is now in one of the darkest hours of our history.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:57:30 PM
bakerlady
I served in Congress with Newt, Rick, Ron Paul.
I know all the others but Michelle and Jon.
I look at the debates as job interviews. Knowing what I know, I don't want someone whose claim on my vote is because I need to be amused. I want someone well educated and capable of good analytical thought. Don't know who to back, but it's definitely not Newt.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 3:59:19 PM
Hawkfan
I think the quote of the day says it all. "In selecting men for office, let principle be your guide. Regard not the particular sect or denomination of the candidate -- look to his character." --Noah Webster
In that, I think Romney is a better choice than Newt.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 4:01:33 PM
George
Another election with dismal candidates (Romney, Gingrich, Paul) in opposition to a well-financed, well-organized socialist campaign aided and abetted by the national media which glorifies an incompetent, perhaps even a malevolent enemy of the US. If ever we needed a statesman/stateswoman to rise, it is now in one of the darkest hours of our history.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 4:10:55 PM
John
I find it disgusting that there is not ONE Republican
that is CAPABLE of being a president is willing to
run for office. The complete field of candidates, now
running, just guarantees Obamas re-election.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 4:17:46 PM
George R. Clark
My choice to be our next president is Michele Bachmann.What is wrong with the USA having a woman for president???
Posted December 16, 2011 at 4:27:02 PM
LShelton
I think Romney gets a bum rap for being the Republican governor of a Democrat controlled state.
He mentioned last night after the debate that those who are concerned might want to check his veto record
(800)to understand his positions. I hold a temple recommend just like he does and can tell you what
won't be going on in the White House. It takes more than his religion to get my vote, but he's close.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 4:39:46 PM
Patricia
I'm not as pessimistic as a lot of people seem to be with the field of Rep. candidates. They all may have their faults and "Baggage," but some of them seem very electable to me.Even if they were not running against Obama.
If we truly want to change how things are in Washinton today, we need to get behind one of these choices, hopefully the best one, who ever that might be, (we still have time, lets use it to make a proper choice and not be rushed by media or other pundets who tell us we have'ent much choice) it's still early, relax. I want a change too, but not at the expense "4 moreyears."
Posted December 16, 2011 at 4:54:16 PM
Cindy
Yuk....pooey.....
Posted December 16, 2011 at 4:57:24 PM
Spooked
I pray that caucus voters vote their desire not what the polsters say is the most likely to win. Remember no one has shown a more than 30% showing.
All the best choices are still in the race. Here's hoping Iowa will still put a Tea Party face on choosing a favorite.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 4:58:11 PM
Attila
Pathetic! Where are the level headed, uncorrupted Republicans? Like Mike Pence or Jeff Flake? I would consider Paul if he would back off his foolish isolationist ideas.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 5:06:33 PM
Linda H.
Your description of the current situation is pretty good. I think what may be hurting Romney is the obvious favoritism both the media and the Republican Congress are giving him.
The voters don't like to be told whom to vote for. Newt is popular because he speaks out, fires back at accusations and is a fighter. Right or wrong, Americans no longer trust a Congress willing to pass an Indefinite Hold initiative which may involve holding American citizens indefinitely without trial. That goes against our Constitution.
This administration, this Congress have shown themselves to be totally disinterested in preserving our rights under the Constitution. The average American voter has had enough of a government climbing into every facet of our lives. We want it stopped.
Romney is too "staged" everywhere he goes. We've had enough of that. The fact that he appears to be the candidate of the Washington establishment is killing him. And then there is the matter of him losing to McCain in the last Presidential election. He doesn't pack the goods to bring it all the way home.
So Newt it is, flaws and all.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 5:21:51 PM
Stephen W. Edmondson
UNFORTUNATELY FOR ALL OF US, TOO MANY SELF CENTERED IMPULSE RIDDEN DRIVERS WILL NOT DISCIPLINE THEMSELVES. YES, A FEDERAL LAW WITH TEETH SHOULD FORBID TEXTING AND CELL PHONE USE BY ANY DRIVER. FIRST OFFENSE: LARGE FINE. SECOND OFFENSE:REVOCATION OF LICENSE. THIRD OFFENSE: CONFISCATION OF CAR AND SUSPENDED JAIL SENTENCE. FOURTH OFFENSE: SIX MONTHS IN THE SLAMMER.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 5:31:01 PM
Peter N Beeckel
Romney first, Paul second and wouldn't even consider NG. My character candidate would be Bachmann. If NG is the nominee, I vote "write-in" even if it does mean we get what we deserve, ie bo.
I'm afraid we don't really know or perceive all the forces behind what really is placed before us. If you took a poll of truly informed individuals, aware of our Constitutional crisis and crisis of government, I think we would see a Bachmann/Santorum combo for within them there is wisdom, character, principles, courage, integrity, experience and the will to do what is right and not expedient or "other" serving.
Thanks for all you do.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 5:36:43 PM
William
I have a rather nagging fear that the teleprompter in chief is likely going to enjoy another term in office destroying what was once known as the USA.
There just does not seem to be anyone who is "right" for the office of President of The United states in the pack of wolves running for the GOP nomination.
Plus the fact that voters for those of the GOP are so spread apart that the votes will amount to nothing as there will not be enough for any one GOP candidate to emerge victorious over the "purchased one".
Posted December 16, 2011 at 5:42:28 PM
Vic
Not much to add to the volume of comments above. I remain strongly convinced that; to paraphrase FDR, "The only fear we have is losing our GOP perspective, that's a FEAR we all must see itself".
This cavalcade of debates strains the need for exposure. If most Republicans are like me, they are getting tired of the same "stuff" so many times repeated. However, all the candidates must know and must comply with the theme of beating Obama in 2012, not which of the GOP challengers is the most suitable.
We, Americans, thrive on vanity among other faults. If "our guy/gal" doesn't kick behinds of the other candidates, we panic and go into the negative mode. That must be avoided at all costs.
A young lady above outlined that not only she and her husband but her entire expanded family will all vote for Newt to win the nomination and the Presidency thereafter. However, she wisely states, if it is not Newt (...perhaps Romney) than that same aggregation will vote for that person. They will not change parties or principles.
In fact, any of the candidates still on the challenger block would be 1,000 times more suitable as President of the United States than another term with Obama or some other Democrat sent in to quell the waves.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 5:43:43 PM
Donald McKeighen
Let's see, Herman Cain was railroaded out by scurilous accusations, Bachman, Pawlenty, Ryan and I think one other guy whose name I don't recall, aren't even being given time to articulate their stances, the media, once again, is determining who OUR candidate is going to be, and the GOP is playing right along with them, who the hell believes a 'fair' debate can be run by leftwing media hacks? As far as I'm concerned Romney is just another Democrat, he just wears a red tie, Gingrich for all his faults DID give us fiscal responsiblity and CONSERVATIVE policy when he headed the Congress in the '90's, or has everyone forgotten, that aside, Bachman IS a real Conservative, too bad the media is painting her, along with ALL our candidates, as mentally deficient, it's not over yet, but the media and the establishment Republicans are doing their damndest to make it so.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 5:55:42 PM
Kathy
A bad Republican is better than a good Democrat any day!! (Oh wait...there's no such thing as a good Democrat, bwahahaha!)
Ban cell phone use during driving?? NO! What if you have an emergency situation where you need to drive and talk? Besides, making another law STILL DOESN'T FIX STUPID! People are still going to do stupid things.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 5:55:57 PM
Shoot
this bunch of misfits too me the only 2 are Herman and he is gone and the other is Mrs Bachman, Ron Paul is too messed in the head, Perry the platipus would be a better canidatethan what is offered Ronald Mc Donald would be better than health care romney scheese No wonder obammy got into the whitehouse
Posted December 16, 2011 at 6:10:28 PM
Dolores Crawford McLaughlin
I wish Alan Keyes had gotten back into the
race........
I am looking for strength in a leader and a believer in God and the Ten Commandments -- someone who has raised a family instilling in them all
these values....someone smart enough who is strong
enought and fearless and will not take "crap" from the totally left media whether it be TV, Radio,
newspapers, we have a society that has been so
indoctrinated with Atheistic Ideas; Morality
is non-existent..that is scary for a society.
It is all about money; lots of money; and all
the powerful people of the world think it is
just fine to pay homage to "money", another
false god as in Pagan times.
We will fall from within........That is why
I am not happy with Gingrich........Romney,
however, is no better. Where have the Republicans been in defending and supporting the "Tea Party"???
Where have the candidates been with the leftist
group of Wall Street Protesters?
Why are they afraid to stand up and fight these
people......with all their money, why havent' we heard that they have banned together and purchased a couple of TV stations, radio stations, newspapers.........
Get into our schools where the kids are being
indoctrinated into Atheistic thinking.
Cowards........that's how I see most of them;
lots of talk but no real action even from the
likes of al our conservative talk show hosts; they are making a ton of money for themselves but
we haven't won any victories in years and years......so what have the likes of Hannity,
et al. accomplished........NADA for the people.
dolores crawford mclaughlin
Posted December 16, 2011 at 6:20:56 PM
Gary
Not impressed but a mushroom would be better than Chairman Obummer
Posted December 16, 2011 at 6:25:28 PM
Lowell
Consider the past 150 years. How many wars has the US been involved in? When those wars ended, how many of the countries that we supported and/or rescued have we left without keeping a military base of some type or another? I'm no expert, but I can only think of 2 - China and Russia. Iraq will be number 3?
Posted December 16, 2011 at 6:34:10 PM
LB
Enough Yet! This lawmaking insanity needs to stop - be stopped! A place to start is drastically cutting back on-the-job hours for elected "lawmakers," and their pay (along with eliminating their "life-time" retirement benefits out of taxpayer pockets.) Then, how about voting for pople who have demonstrated the character to honor their oaths to protect and uphold our Constitution? ....This from an 86 year old citizen who was reared to be a responsible individual, accountable for my own actions. Now, instead of "thinking" what is the responsible thing to do while I'm driving? I'm having to worry if I'm breaking some law (out of a gillion). This is reverse growth in America: from mature thinking to immature panic attacks that I might get punished! Don't misunderstand, laws-rules are necessary in every ordered society; but our's have gone beyond even ridiculous to becoming a straight jacket restraining mature thinking.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 6:39:57 PM
Cindy M.
I am very weary of everyone on the conservative side - from internet sites to Fox News - saying that we have flawed candidates. Unlike the crowd who voted for the Messiah Obama, we shouldn't be looking for a GOD to be our president. It flies in the face of our commandments regarding worshiping another GOD and false idols. And like all mankind, we are flawed yet loved by our Savior. I want a candidate that can be a leader. We need to stop looking for another Reagan and we need to stop saying our candidates are flawed. Every candidate has great worth but the reality is that I would vote for a tree stump in 2012!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 7:01:33 PM
Laurie
Well said Cindy! A tree stump rather than another Democrat of today's vintage.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 7:15:47 PM
Ralph
If this is the best slate we can assemble what hope is there for a return to Constitutional government?
None of the group motivates me to the legwork necessary to run a successful challenge. Second Amendment issues are a major focus for me and both Gingrich and Romney are weak there. Ron Paul is the good news and bad news in one package. The world no longer allows his isolationism. This set of candidates defines "quandry" for me. One thing is for sure - anybody but Obama.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 7:27:05 PM
Tom West
Ron Paul is the only REAL constitutional candidate,with a 30 year record to prove it.ALL the others are business-as-usual,big government, flip-flops ,put up their wet finger in the wind types, to see what they should say to the cameras to get elected.Nice hair,suave voiced wolves in sheep clothing.
Has any other candidate said which federal agencies they would do away with if elected? Or exactly HOW they would reduce the size of big government?
A resounding,"NO."
So then any other candidate will be BIG GOVERNMENT AS USUAL.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 7:29:36 PM
Gary Chambers
Flip Romney is a definate NO NO. Newt is questionable and the two on the same ticket in 2012 will be a disaster and hello second term for obama. I would personally prefer any one but these two RINO's
Posted December 16, 2011 at 7:32:34 PM
Tom West
Aren't you sick and tired of being sick and tired of big government, and losing more of your money and freedoms every day? We have to defeat not only Obamer, but also big government,this next election, if we want to take back America.That includes ALL the congressman and senators that play the BIG government game.And for freedom's sake, don't let any liberal media influence play on what your heart tells you is right.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 7:41:37 PM
Ed
I stand amazed at those photo ops of Hussein with members of our military. Despite all he's done to them and the disdain with which he regards them, they enthusiastically applaud him and vie to shake his hand.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 7:43:44 PM
Bill
Every GOP contender believes in America which is more than can be said for Barry.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 7:44:09 PM
Leslie Hanselman
We pray that God's will be done and not mans will.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 8:04:25 PM
Ed
I stand amazed at those photo ops of Hussein with members of our military. Despite all he's done to them and the disdain with which he regards them, they enthusiastically applaud him and vie to shake his hand.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 8:07:44 PM
Pat
Cell phone use and driving don't mix. Driving is dangerous enough as drivers are becoming increasingly aggressive. Safe driving requires a person's full attention. A distraction of a few seconds is all that it takes for a life-changing accident to occur. In my area there have been many deaths caused by drivers who were using cell phones at the time of the accident. These include car vs. car as well as car vs. pedestrian. I would fully support a ban on the use of cell phones while driving. I keep my purse and phone in the back seat where I can't get to them.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 8:31:27 PM
Eduardo Basurto
The withdrawal of our troops from Iraq borders on treason. Commander-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama will live in infamy.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 9:06:40 PM
Morning Glory
I think that there is no "one" individual who really pops out as a very strong, conservative, competent leader....... but...... ANY ONE of these people (well,except for Huntsman, Romney & Paul) would be a million times better than the person we now have in the White House. I like Bachmann's principles, Newt's expertise and knowledge of the Constitution and history, Perry's personality, and Santorum's common sense. Isn't there one person out there who embodies ALL these characteristics???? That would be the person I'm "for".........
Posted December 16, 2011 at 9:43:53 PM
Robert Grant
"Do not pass in an intersection." That myth came about from an incorrect reading; "Do not drive left of center of the roadway while withing 100 feet of or while traversing a roadway intersection, or a railroad grade crossing." Operative words are, left of center. There is nothing improper about passing (two lanes in one direction)in an intersection.
Just so with this stupidity of creating new laws, aimed at specific segments of our society. The whole matter of doing anything other than operating the vehicle intelligently is cared for with a single law already on the books in most states. "The operator of a motor vehicle, on a highway, shall at all times have two hands on the steering device, except to shift gears, or in an emergency." Two hands on--no texting, no telephone, no reading, no eating, no hairdressing,no makeup---two hands on the steering device! Enforce that, solves the whole problem. No one can correct stupidity! Doing anything, anything, other than full attention to the task is akin to pointing a loaded firearm and snapping the trigger repeatedly. Eventually there will be a result.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 9:54:56 PM
Robert E8 USN, Ret
The military community, at one time, was generally Republican inclined. As Federal government has been more and more filled with self-serving individuals that continually vote themselves more perks and benefits,so too has the military moved more to the left. One reads daily of Officers (all services) being reprimanded or relieved for inappropriate action or orders. That may explain all the hand clapping and hand shaking for BHO by the military. People in the military typically do as they are told. "Give the President a warm welcome--" was the command. "You and You are designated to shake hands and speak with the C in C, here are your questions."
All of this gets the unit in the public eye. Good for the Officers. An example of this; Vessel approaching berth in San Fran. "All hands in dress whites, man the rail." (line up at Parade Rest along the vessel's hand railings). Three men were late, and inadvertently were fully wetted by the gushing fire hoses. This changes the tone of the white uniform. "What are those men doing out of uniform?" was the cry from the Bridge. Some Chief yelled,"They are just wet, Sir." Response from the Bridge, "I said uniformity, wet the entire crew!" And they did! There was an impact on ship's morale. Sometimes military intelligence is an oxymoron.! Semper Fi!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 10:30:25 PM
Dola Lytal
I am still for Michele Bachmann. She is
the best as far as I am concerned
love DG
Posted December 16, 2011 at 10:30:41 PM
M Rick Timms. MD
The left is picking our Candidate for us again.
We must support the nominee - whoever- and make damn sure we control him with a Republican House and Senate. Tea Party Republican Congress!!
Herman Cain ! Now more than ever!
Posted December 16, 2011 at 10:44:52 PM
Jim Singer
The last sinless human died 2011 years ago. I just can resolve myself to believing the most consitutionally conservative we can find is Mr. Romney who famously declared he was a "moderate" and "progressive". I'll take Newt.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:09:36 PM
Bob Sackett
I'm still looking for the Ronald Reagan in the crowd.
Posted December 16, 2011 at 11:16:36 PM
Larry Medow
Ron Paul is the only true conservative who has not changed his position since he has been in office. He may not be perfect in every respect(See foreign affairs) but he truly believes in the Constitution and has nothing to be ashamed of.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 12:09:21 AM
Ken
What ever happenned to personal responsibility? If we are to outlaw the use of cell phones while driving (Fat Chance) then lets include smoking while driving, Using the radio, CD player or even carrying on a conversation with a passenger in the front or rear seat. Come on get real...you can't regulate stupid! Oh bye the way, how are we going to fund these regulations? tax the 1% alittle more?
Posted December 17, 2011 at 1:02:24 AM
Ed Shipley
I cannot find a really bad GOP presidential aspirant among those running. However, I don't relish the idea of Ron Paul as the candidate. That is mostly on the foreign policy front. But whoever IS the selected opponent of the current president will get my vote.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 1:28:21 AM
Captain Bob
Should there be a seat-belt required law? No. Should be a no cell phone use while driving law? Yes. Yhe difference is that the first is a personal choice which affects the individuals safety. The second affects other's safety.
Opinion of one who continues (5 years later) to suffer the effects of an accident causd by another's cell phone use while driving.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 4:21:37 AM
James Hoffman
I do not believe there is a Republican Field. I think they really are all closet Democrats working to ensure an Obama win.
It strikes me as sad to think that this is the best the Republican Party has to offer us. I demand a Do Over!
Posted December 17, 2011 at 7:48:25 AM
Joel Hirschey
I'm completely against more laws telling me what I can or can't do while driving. Statistics have shown that more accidents have happened due to texting since laws were made to stop it. This is because people now have to text down by their laps where they won't get caught. Now there eyes are completely off the road!
Posted December 17, 2011 at 8:03:47 AM
Bob Swanson
It is clear from your article stats that Ron Paul is a viable contender yet you fail to mention his name other then a close third In one pol.This shows your bias is the same as the mainstream liberal media.
Please remove me from your mailing list.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 8:33:41 AM
Rev. Robert Celeste
There is but one Messiah, His name is Jesus, He is the Christ and to look for salvation from any other is idolatry at best.
While I will vote for any of the Republican candidates other than the two mormon Christ denying cultist, Huntsman and Romney, I do not look to any of them to solve our problems only to slow down our ultimate place in the one world g0vt led by the anti-Christ.
If there is anything I have learned, being involved in politics since 1954, it is that all candidates have one thing in mind, "Communism will work under my leadership>"
Posted December 17, 2011 at 8:45:33 AM
George Rogers Clark
While I will vote for the last man or woman standing, none of them thrill me. As for Romney, Rev. Celeste said it well. As for Newt, in 94 he announced a "contract with America" and then bailed out on term limits, a part of that contract most of us thought was MOST important.
Without Sarah Palin and in light of Michele Bachmann's poor showing, there is not a true conservative in the bunch.
Again, Rev. Celeste is correct.... politicians of any ilk are not likely to solve the current problems. We need a spiritual awakening; a return to the principles and faith that the first settlers brought to the New World.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 9:03:34 AM
D.A. Werlein
It is to your discredit that you can be acknowledged as one of the "conservative" posts who throw Ron Paul "under the bus."
It is so disturbing this sites lack of courage to acknowledge the steadfast record, integrity, courage and temerity that Ron Paul demonstrates time and time again.
You had better "hold on to your hat" as more people become aware of him. And, no, I am not an acolyte of the Hon. Representative Paul, just a veteran that looks at the character of the man and find him the only ray of Hope among the charlatans. I hope that you and "Red State" start to see the light.
cheers
DW
Posted December 17, 2011 at 9:09:31 AM
Jonathan Oaks
Should states ban cellphone use? In a word, No. This is an example of the war on freedom being perpetrated by a nanny state government gone wild. If not for the example set by the current occupant of the White House, the powers-that-be at the NTSB might not have been so bold as to recommend such a "ban."
Posted December 17, 2011 at 9:09:45 AM
GEORGEWBOAT
From Georgewboat
Thanks for the grammer lesson.
I my bad spelling is more important than voting out
OBAMA "God Help Us".
Did not mean to Question your values, Who you like or dislike is none any of my busness.
Obama and the left will be ALL IN this election.
# 1 Vote out Obama, Any one will be better for the
USA than him, anyone! the republican party will be
a step in the right direction.
We must come together and vote out Obama.
oh i flunked english, droped out of high school,
got a 96 on the exam and got in the navy "when a high school diploma was needed" lived 60 + years
and never, Never collected a dime of unenploment
or ant other taxpayer $$$$ for any assistance.
Schooling and Collage diploma's don't = brains.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 9:38:21 AM
Sam Santucci
Enough with the "Newt bashing!" For crying out loud, he's on our side, remember? Ok, so his past leaves much to be desired, but can anyone boast of having no skeltons in their closet? We certainly can't expect a St. Francis of Assisi for a presidential candidate and we certainly don't want a repeat performance of Barack Obama, so let's work with what we have and for crying out loud, let's stop the arguing and name calling among ourselves. That only strengthens and emboldens Obama. I, personally like Newt, but if Romney gets the nod, I will vote for him. Anyone, but Obama!!!
Posted December 17, 2011 at 9:53:34 AM
Larry
Can we get a do over,
Posted December 17, 2011 at 9:54:23 AM
John
I am considering a stance that eliminates any distractions to the hands (phones, make-up, texting, etc.) and the eyes (videos in the front seat, texting, make-up, etc.) from being performed BY THE DRIVER of the vehicle. That person is the "pilot" and needs to take seriously this control of their life, the lives of those in the vehicle and the lives of the innocent victims who are killed because of their negligence. Part of obtaining and renewing a license should be adherence to this conformity. It is not a "right" of Americans to drive cars or fly in planes. For the privilege of being able to drive (if you choose to) one should have requirements beyond seat belts. Precious cargo is on board...a human being(s).
Posted December 17, 2011 at 9:55:21 AM
Hobie
"Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths?"
-- George Washington
"NOTA" have demonstrated an understanding of the issues raised by the above question. In fact, their actions and stated positions on the most important of these issues: life, indicate a desertion of that "sense". In my opinion, this renders them all unfit for positions of authority. That "sense" has also left the GOP leadership, which is why they currently refuse to field a candidate worthy of enough support to defeat the incumbent-in-chief.
Solution: Since we already have one who opposes the proper role of Government and sees the Constitution as a "hinderance" to "progress", why replace him with yet another? Find and support one who will restore it instead.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 10:32:18 AM
Dr. Pete Kleff
The primary campaign thus far has been revealing, if disconcerting, in what it reflects about polling data, Conservative pundits, and the GOP establishment. It has been clear from the beginning that Romney is the favorite of the GOP establishment, but ironically not of the rank and file. Conservative pundits such as Ann Coulter display an air of superiority in lecturing the rank and file about who is a "suitable" GOP. And GOP
stalwarts such as Karl Rove can barely hide their disdain for any non-establishment candidate. It is like watching a school of piranha swarming a steer loose in a Brazilian river.
And the GOP rank and file seems focused on 30 second soundbites of a candidate's faux pas rather than his/her underlying ability, philosophy, and experience. The fact that the liberal media selects these embarrassing moments to intentionally damage the candidate would appear to be lost.
Whether a candidate is a good debater - assuming you consider the question and answer fiascos conducted by media personalities trying to score a hit to be a debate instead of the "gotcha" moment - says nothing about whether such individual will be a good president intent on saving our Republic.
All in all, this GOP primary seaaon has been irksome and generally uninforming. It must be quite encouraging to Barry Obama.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 10:36:27 AM
Rodney Galles, Retired Navy Chief
It is nothing new to see the Democrats go out of their way to deny a victory celebration here in the U.S. after we have successfully concluded (were victorious for those in Rio Linda) a nine year war against horrendous thugs and terrorists in Iraq. If you look back, the concept of taking the war on terror to the terrorist's back yard succeeded beyond our fondest dreams. Untold numbers of terrorists and Al Qaeda members flocked to Iraq after the fall of Husseins's army to carry out vengeance against the Marines and Army troops on the streets of Iraqi cities. Victory for the U.S. was the first election day when the primary sing of victory was a purple thumb. Obama even rushed to Fort Bragg to claim fame as the main who brought the troops out of the Bush quagmire. Some Quagmire! Our forces on the ground killed and captured the enemy there to the point that the enemy stopped entering the country and those left went deep underground to await the loudly proclaimed "Exit Day" before they dare to show their faces again.
To all our Servicemen and women who served so well in Iraq, allow me to give you the Bravo Zulu denied you by the President. Well Done soldiers Marines Sailor Air Force and all related service personnel. You have upheld your own honor and served our country well.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 10:41:37 AM
chuck
who would want to run, given the opposition research that goes on. true or not, the fact that they kept ratcheting up the allegations against cain tells me that they were truly afraid of his candidacy; ditto palin, etc. even when the 'emporor' has no clothes, he looks good against the present slate of republicans, except for paul and he is dismissed as a fringe lunatic. sad
Posted December 17, 2011 at 10:43:02 AM
Retired Chief
Re: Drone downed in Iran! When will the flag officer who made the decision that our highly technically advanced drones did not require self destruct capabilities to include automatic destruction when out of controlling contact for more than a specified period of time be brought up on charges? How irresponsible it was to have drones without this capability. We have had several instances in the past when Airmen have sacrificed their own lives to prevent a crash in a populated area. What is to prevent such a large piece of hardware crashing into a school or a crowded area while they are being flown here in America. Could it be they will only protect the drones from American eyes and not those of the enemy? Someone needs to lose a job and perhaps a pension over this fiasco. What a weak-kneed beggar our President has shown himself to be to think that his request would be met with anything other than derision.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 10:49:39 AM
Hobie
"Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths?"
-- George Washington
"NOTA" have demonstrated an understanding of the issues raised by the above question. In fact, their actions and stated positions on the most important of these issues: life, indicate a desertion of that "sense". In my opinion, this renders them all unfit for positions of authority. That "sense" has also left the GOP leadership, which is why they currently refuse to field a candidate worthy of enough support to defeat the incumbent-in-chief.
Solution: Since we already have one who opposes the proper role of Government and sees the Constitution as a "hinderance" to "progress", why replace him with yet another? Find and support one who will restore it instead.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 10:54:33 AM
Bruce Chittenden
With the manner on how the republican race is being ran and the discrediting of all candidates who come forth, will in no doubt hand the election over to Obama. There is already a growing sentiment among conservatives that we cannot win. May God help us all.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 11:23:31 AM
Fred Hodges
Bachman is the only true conservative and constitutionalist in the field. She is smart, attractive, and motivated. I am dismayed Tea Party members have not supported her more vigorously.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 11:41:15 AM
Fred Hodges
Nine years, 4,500 American soldiers killed, 30,000 wounded, and $1 Trillion spent.
Will democracy last or will they revert back to some radical group taking over the country? My guess is the latter, with support from Iran.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 11:49:49 AM
Mark Potts
The entire field is full of establishment goons that represent a coontinuation of big government, albeit Obama light. The one exception is Ron Paul. He is the ONLY candidate that understands the issues, especially foreign policy, and who also has the will to take the action necessary to restore the Republic. The rest are part of the welfare/wafare state uniparty (Republicrats) that make up the mainstream in the body politic!
Posted December 17, 2011 at 12:05:19 PM
Jody
I am not thrilled with any of the candidates and would like a "mulligan", a complete do over. At this point, I am discouraged by the fact I will be voting in my Iowa caucas for the person I think would be able to beat Obama, not necessarily who I want to be president. I just know I don't want Obama.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 12:32:52 PM
Jim Tills
I am so deeply disappointed in your analysis of the Iowa Republican Field of candidates. Mitt Romney has integrity and is most conservative in almost every position important to the survival of our Nation. You have misconstrued his record by relying on sound bites put out by the Democratic Left and opponents who would like to sully his excellent record. Saying that Obamacare was based on Romney's health care record in Massachusetts is a Democratic attempt at smearing Romney and you have bought it hook, line and sinker. With POOR research like that, it puts much of what you say in a questionable position. If we as conservatives do not get behind a concerted combined effort to nominate and then elect Mitt Romney as our next POTUS we will lose our essential liberties and the Nation that has been the hope of the world.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 12:57:57 PM
Oliver de Graaf
End of 1999 alll important Democrats, the Clintons, madame allbright, john Kerry etc. were infavor of removing Saddam. So George W.Bush with the blessing of Congress drove got rid off Saddam and his sons, who sent thousands of people through the meat grinder and occupied Most of Iraq including the capital in a matter of days. Then Democratic traitors began to spread rumors we were losing encouraging El Qaida? to move in and the war ground to standstill and took much longer than it should have. LCDR,USCGR(Ret) 90 years and with wife straight Republican voters since 1948
Posted December 17, 2011 at 1:04:18 PM
Jack
Cell phone use should be banned while driving. It dangerously distracts the driver, and that includes hands-free cell phones. In my opinion, drivers should just drive.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 1:33:49 PM
Charlie
In Idaho they have been trying to pass this legislation for two years and it looks like it may pass this next session. There can be no doubt that texting and holding a phone while driving impedes a persons ability to drive safely. I am and have been all for a no texting and no hand held phone law for some time...They passed one in California that carries a $149.00 fine. And I doubt as your piece states that it was one single incedent that made the Transportation to suggest this law. More than likely it was the straw that broke the camels back. The law is needed and should have been passed long ago.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 1:55:12 PM
Papa Kilo
We can only hope the "field" ends up in a brokered convention, that will allow a real candidate to step up.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 3:00:04 PM
Bob C
You summed it up almost exactly as I have. As a Texan having experienced Perry's governorship, he has stubbornly held the line on spending against the normal dem desire to solve all problems by raising taxes. On two different occasions he has forced the legislature to cut spending to adjust to declining revenues. All the special interests screamed. It was the end of the world. But, it has worked and has forced government to pull back. He is a proven conservative and obviously has the executive experience that we so badly need. However, his stumbles in front of national news coverage has hurt him and I wonder how he would do in debates against a dem candidate who has never let truth be a barrier to what he says. Romney and Gingrich sell themselves well but I am fearful of the old Newt showing up and of having more Harvard Law judges in the case of Romney. I also believe that no congressman is qualified to serve effectively as president without prior executive experience. However,with everything in me I plan to do what I can to support our candidate and see that the current trainwreck is ended.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 4:02:26 PM
Vin S
I would sum up the field as deplorable and unacceptable. Romney is a liberal leftist in GOP clothing. Can you say Romney-care.
Gingrich is a loser that is a RINO....can you say lets have all the illegals vote.
Ron Paul is an isolationist that does not really understand the role of the US as a super power. Some of his views I agree with.
Bottom line is.... None of these guys can beat BHO so the discussion is moot.
Why? Because those who really understand our essential liberty and will try to vote that way are out numbered by those on entitlements, those blind to what is going on, the liberals and the illegals(yes, they vote more than we can know). How can we win? Not through an election.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 4:14:27 PM
Vin S
The economic malaise supports BHO because those on entitlements are not really out of a job so they see nothing wrong with him. The liberal left is just stupid from drinking too much socialist cool-aid. What's not to like?
Posted December 17, 2011 at 4:18:25 PM
Vin S
Ban the use of cell phones? Yes... and no. There is a very simple and cost effective way to put the lights of this subject out for good. Every cell phone has a gps built in. A gps can measure ground speed. All that needs to be done is alter the hardware to disable all functions of the phone with the exception of 911 when the phone senses a ground speed of greater that 10mph. No new laws, no additional cops to enforce laws that are unenforceable. Problem solved with the pen of the FCC and a new technical spec for phone makers. Every cell owner would have to turn in their current phone at the end of the contract for a new modified phone. Little to no cost to the consumer, little to no cost to the makers. What the hell are we waiting for?
Think this infringes on your rights? No! You do not have the right to injure others with your stupidity. If you cannot agree with this then throw out seat belts, helmets, air bags, and no smoking in restaurants laws. How about OSHA? No it is not a bad thing to do what cell nuts will not do themselves.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 4:30:35 PM
Ralph Adamson
No. Talking on a cell phone is no less distracting than dealing with kids crying in the back seat, tuning the radio, putting on makeup, reading a map or unwrapping a burger - on and on. Where do you stop? I don't know. Instead people should be held responsible for their own actions, which includes being wary of other drivers that are not paying attention.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 5:32:58 PM
Bill DeFelice
Romney,and Gingrich,have the blessings of the progressives.
The REAL constitutional candidates,will not be covered much by the sorass funded news media.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 8:08:31 PM
Mike
Read the very last page from the "March of Folly," by Barbara Tuchmann, that is what I use as guidance on who to vote for.
After that, I will vote for any one except that community organizer. I hope I live long enough to see how history explains that guy getting in. Too unreal.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 8:17:32 PM
Leeman
From the beginning, the entrenched Republican "elite": the Bushes, pere et fils,Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, talking head Charles Krauthammer, etc; have tried to hijack the apparent wishes of the Tea Party middle class for less government, more individual freedom. Even though the 2010 midterm elections were a screaming, foot stomping,standing ovation to moderation these Republican heavy hitters have attempted to steer the nomination to one of their own. At this point they seem to have succeeded,with the current annointees being Newt Gringrich and Mitt Romney. This is the same Gringrich who was almost overthrown as speaker of the house in July of 1997 by members of his own party. The cabal included Republican conference chairman John Boehner of Ohio and Republican leadership chairman Bill Paxon of New York. According to their plan, House Majority Leader Dick Armey, House Majority Whip Tom DeLay. Boehner and Paxon were to present Gingrich with an ultimatum: resign, or be voted out. However, Armey balked at the proposal to make Paxon the new Speaker, and told his chief of staff to warn Gingrich about the coup. Mitt Romney, the spiritual godfather of Obamacare, has problems of his own. Although he leads several polls, his percentage of voters tends to remain fairly steady around 30-35% of the voters. In short he is unelectable. While I agree with Vin S's earlier comment "I would sum up the field as deplorable and unacceptable." please never lose sight of the Republicans that helped make it so.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 8:18:01 PM
Bill DeFelice
OH BOY!Another "Peace with honor sharade".I wonder which military officer,in the reserves,will sneak over to Paris,and have "Talks"with the Taliban"Then run for U.S.Senate?
Posted December 17, 2011 at 8:19:08 PM
Elaine
How would I sum up the field of presidential candidates? Compared to what? Lucifer or Christ?
Posted December 17, 2011 at 8:23:28 PM
George Jenista
The "polls" in my mind are meaningless. If the 2010 elections were any indIcation of actual conservative sentiment brewing in the populace, then January's caucus/primary results ought to be rather surprising.
Posted December 17, 2011 at 10:10:48 PM
Peter S. Chamberlain
Somebody on our side, you, has finally said it! We need to take a “mulligan” and recruit and nominate a candidate or candidates for President who has the character, capacity, including experience, judgment, and expertise, and “capital,” i.e., political support, to unite and mobilize the fractious factions of the GOP, attract enough independents, win the nomination, win the general election, help us regain control of the Senate and solidify our control of the House, assemble and organize an administration, and actually govern, as a principled conservative, from inauguration day.
There is something terribly wrong when, given what the Wall Street Journal’s
Taranto said were a hundred Republicans qualified to be President, we end up with this field in which, as he put it, “At 22%, [Romney, who couldn’t get the nomination in 2008 and has been campaigning for five years] has given a whole new meaning to the term ‘front-runner.’” “Generic Republican,” unlike most, if not all, of this field, could beat Obama, but he’s not running. I wish several of the candidates could, but there is no evidence that they can, unite enough voters, particularly in key states, and replace Obama, which is the object of this process, without which their intramural differences are irrelevant. Nobody in or around this current field can unite the Republicans and win the general election. That’s why the overwhelming odds, and thus the serious money, favor Obama.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 12:02:34 AM
Tractordriver
Yes!!!!
Posted December 18, 2011 at 2:00:17 AM
GregInOregon
Why is it we are getting such flawed candidates? We haven't had a decent candidate since 1984.
I'm sick of the media and chattering lip-flappers deciding for us who is surging ahead, who is faltering, etc. We're already worn out.
I've decided to support whoever the Repub nominee turns out to be, except for Ron Paul, which is (thankfully) unlikely -- IF ONLY to see con-man Obama voted out.
Here's what we tea partiers do:
Persuade Paul Ryan to step into the race.
No "baggage," no flip-flops, no hypocritical hemming and hawing, no misgivings or gut-wrenching on our part. Just the genuine article.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 2:44:16 AM
SteveS
Concerning the proposed NTSB regulations on use of electronic devices while driving: We need one simple law that says something along the lines of, "A driver is responsible for the safe operation of his vehicle at all times." If you can text, eat a cheeseburger, and put on makeup while driving safely, then I don't care what you're doing in your car.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 7:18:24 AM
Jaaz
Bring back Herman Cain.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 10:03:19 AM
George Callahan
I'm retired, but still work moving trucks all over the country. I see people talking on their phones and gestering at the same time. I think hands-free should mandatory for everybody driving. I am against a ban on cell phone use.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 12:48:40 PM
Mike
I'm hoping Perry can once again get traction and become the nominee. I think he stands the best chance of beating obama. If we can get Perry in the White House and more TEA Party candidates in the legislature we stand the best chance of turning this country around, getting spending under control, and undoing the damage caused by obama and the dems over the last few years.
We need more TEA Party candidates to compensate for the likes of Boehner and McConnell. As long as they're in charge they will hinder any true reforms.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 2:00:38 PM
Jerome
The polls cannot be trusted as they are busily trying to select the Republican Candidate again as well as disparaging the TEA Party. The TEA Party is the anti-big-government majority of the citizenry and will elect the next President.
Even more important than replacing Obama is to elect a conservative, veto-proof Senate to prevent a Socialist take-over of the Supreme Court the track to serfdom.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 2:40:52 PM
Ramona
We do not have 'flawed' candidates and I will not join in the 'my candidate or no candidate' crowd. I'll be voting for Newt in the primary, but if he doesn't win I will vote for who wins the GOP nomination... (except for Paul who I can't tolerate)
Posted December 18, 2011 at 3:45:44 PM
OldSooner
Handheld cell phone use while driving should not only be banned but made a criminal offense. I see no difference in driving along in a 4000 lb. auto at 70+ miles an hour while holding a cell phone and either talking or texting and doing the same type of driving while randomly firing a weapon at oncoming traffic. There are far too many drivers with too many different driving "styles" on roads these days to be doing anything other than paying attention to the road, the traffic and the conditions around the vehicle you are driving. Anything less than that is truly criminal literally and figuratively.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 4:07:15 PM
Melinda Johnson
I have heard so much criticism of the Republican candidates that I am really tired of the complaints of middle-of-the-road or really-right Republican supporters. NEVER has there been such a vetting of presidential candidates as in this pre-election period. How can Obama, a failed Muslim Socialist narcissist even be in the running with ANY of the Republican candidates? How picky can we be? No one even remarked on the terrorist who sponsored Obama for his senate race, or his lack of any real political or other experience. No one really even knows if he is a REAL AMERICAN CITIZEN!! Now we only hear criticism of Newt and Mitt - two very smart, competent men - either of whom could get us out of the mire Obama has orchestrated. I am upset at the Patriot Post's comments and critiques of these two!
Posted December 18, 2011 at 6:04:29 PM
Robert Pearson
I have received several letters from the families of our Servicemen that fought in the Iraq & or Afganistan Wars and for various reasons find themselves now in military prison(?) . It would be very appropriate to carefully take an independent review of the facts and circumstances in each of these cases, and if necessary, apply Presidential pardons, as appropriate.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 7:34:09 PM
Felicitas Juguilon
Of course Irag is being used for political means (for Obama's re-election). He wants those soldiers and their families, who are weary of the war that keep their loved ones away from home, to vote for Obama, who enabled them to re-unite as a family. Don't be fooled...it is not just to please his constituents that B.O. sent the soldiers home, but also to get their votes. I hope these patriots, who have served us well, will see through this and vote for what is good for our national security.
Posted December 18, 2011 at 9:47:01 PM
shelly lieberman
Michelle Bachmann is the only true conservative in the field.She has more principles then the rest combined and would fight for whats correct instead of for re-election. The liberal press has essentially killed her campaign by ignoring her while concentrating on uplifting the candidates they believe Obama can beat.
Posted December 19, 2011 at 7:50:19 AM
gary
Sick to death of the people who are hoisted up as the front runners. They are both just more of the same, just more Bob Dole, more John McCain. It makes me want to puke.
Surely, somewhere out there is a canidate with a messeage that unites Americans with a truely conservative vision. Because all it takes is one person who believes it and can convey it is all it would take for another "Reagan Revolution". My fear is that if we don't get that, this cycle, we may never be able to recover without much bloodshed...
Posted December 19, 2011 at 8:48:54 AM
Kirby J Grgurich
If they do this with cell phones, fast food windows should close, bill boards should come down, road signs in multi-language should be removed, no smoking, talking to passengers, hell, radios, heaters, air conditioners, drink holders, etc..etc..
Posted December 19, 2011 at 12:47:18 PM
Elle
Simple: They are all better than Obama and Biden!!!
Posted December 19, 2011 at 1:02:22 PM
Elle
The Obama's Hawaii vacation has been estimated to cost 4 Million, not $100,000. How do you all feel about that?!!
Posted December 19, 2011 at 1:05:17 PM
Greg
That's a very KINGLY sum for a POTUS, is it not? If the $4M price tag is fair and conservative, we're talking about $235,294 PER DAY for Obama to "go home for Christmas"... or is it Winter Solstice Celebration? That vacation, if cancelled in favor of staying home for Christmas with friends and family would have saved enough to feed 4,000 people very well for eight months. Why not give the money to a Christian charity and set an example for the nation, an example of giving and of sharing... even in frugality their is an extravagance of the heart!
Posted December 19, 2011 at 7:59:51 PM
Joe L.
I wonder how long before the federal government ties highway funds to states passing cell phone laws similar to what happened with blood alcohol limits for drunk driving.
Posted December 19, 2011 at 8:42:13 PM
zippy
Banning cell phones while driving is not the answer. It obvious that the logical solution is to simply ban driving.
Posted December 20, 2011 at 3:20:45 AM
MKBUC
They can ban cell phone use when they ban drive thru restaruants, vanity mirrors on the driver side sun visor, make automatically shut off unless 2 hands are on the steering wheel to prevent book and newspaper reading while driving. Until then HANDS OFF!!!!
Posted December 20, 2011 at 5:01:32 PM
ron
I think we need Ron Paul to be the Republican candidate. He at least wants to dial back government and get back to Constitutional governing and the Rule of Law. He should be the best hope of putting a Republican back in the White House. That's who I'll be voting for in November.
Posted December 22, 2011 at 6:57:36 PM
Chuck
The economy's terrible shape enables Obama, the Dem and some Repub fellow statists to push for more government intervention in the mess.
The media and much of academia backs that and given the Repubs dismal "attempts" to reverse ANYTHING these last 2 years, too many Americans are giving up.
That apathy is the ticket and with the likely Repub candidate to be a Dem lite Romney...why should anti statists have any reason for hope?
Posted December 24, 2011 at 2:40:40 PM
Bob
Letting "anything" distract you from driving safely is already illegal in most places.
Posted December 27, 2011 at 12:37:16 PM
Rebecca E.
Regarding Rep. Gwen Moore's protest about requiring workers to take drug tests before being approved for unemployment, there is a bigger issue than the constitutionality of unemployment benefits. Drug use is illegal, so why should it be legal to provide unemployment benefits to people who use drugs?
Posted January 1, 2012 at 2:21:08 PM
Don Kloepfer
With regard to the current field of "Republicans", I can't help but to be reminded of something I heard Alan Keyes say during a debate; "The problem in voting for the lesser of two evils is that you still end up with evil." (sic)
I believe that the best choice is Mike Pence . . . who still refuses to run.
Posted January 2, 2012 at 1:02:42 PM