I supported Mitt Romney over John McCain four years ago. However, I fault Romney for creating this mess. His well-financed, onslaught of mudslinging (specifically at Newt Gingrich) created the situation they are now in. Geingrich tried to keep things above board until he was attacked in Iowa, and then in South Carolina. After that it was "respond-in-kind" for survival. I'll vote for Mitt if he ends up winning the nomination, but am very disappointed in his tactics and won't send him a dime for his campaign. If he thinks he can use his millions to slime his way to a nomination, so be it. Then he can finance his own campaign against Obama also. So much for integrity.

Marcus Tullius Cicero

Roman statesman and Prophet. He describes Obama thousands of years before his miraculous appearance. Sly one indeed. Take over Congress, and impeach the traitor should he win again. While the candidates shoot each other, remember, a Constitutional Congress can send legislation to whomever gets the nominatin and defeats Chairman Obamao. Vote for the eventual nominee, and encourage all who are able to do the same, carpool, offer rides, make sure every elligible vote is cast, because the opposition has many dead and fraudulent votes to cast.

Having been a republican for more than 40 yrs I have seen my fair share of stupid politics but what the candidates are doing now only plays into obama's hands. The issues are this is the worst president since woodrow wilson. Focus on obama and noty each other focus on his failed policies and what you are going to do to fix it. The voters are smart enough to figure out which policies we want. Quit the school yard garbage

Simple. Tell the people:

-WHAT ARE OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS,

-WHAT I PROPOSE TO DO ABOUT THEM,

-WHY THIS MEASURE IS NECESSARY,

-WHY ANYTHING LESS WILL FAIL TO DO THE JOB,

-HOW YOU WILL KNOW, AND WHEN, THAT MY ADMINISTRATION

HAS SUCCEEDED IN DOING IT.

The Republican candidates,can get serious,by attacking bamer,not each other.

The candidates need to stop trashing each other and convince the American people why they should support one or the other.

The country will not survive four more years under the audacity and rule of Obama. It is headed for an armed revolt by the American people.

None of the candidates are perfect. They are human. If Obama wins reelection you can blame it on the destruction of the Republican Party. I am not interested in what the establishment republicans want, they have not done their job and not won the confidence of America. We need a candidate to rise up and save this country.

Refuse to run each other down. Admit past errors and then go after Obama. We are tired of propping up your individual histories. The American people do not want Obama care so quit defending Romneycare - Wake up. Quit complaining about his money and accounts - I want someone who understands money in the White House. I am sick of the bickering between two men - what are you 8? I want to see someone that is presidential. Neither look that way right now. I am a Conservative. I will vote for AOB Anyone But Obama.. but I am asking them to be civil, presidential and concentrate on the US not each other and not themselves! The next debate should NOT have one word about the other - concentrate on America or get off the platform. Neither of you are more important than the country.

Address the issues he (or she) consider important and the specific method that should be used to solve the problems. Such as the children of illegal immigrants. Deport all illegals, or excuse all illegals? There must be gentler and kinder but just way which does not violate the poison fruit doctrine. Perhaps requirements for those who crossed our borders illegally, requirements which are not easy but not impossible to fulfill. That plus requirements for the children also. All should have a reasonable command of English and a knowledge of our country’s history and law.

Stay on target. Someone once said that Christians are the only group that shoot their own wounded. Looks like conservaties do it too. Watching what is going on, I am starting to think BHO will be re-elected. I believe we have a dysfunctional govt. and nation because we are not following the original plan of the Founders. i.e. The plans call for round wheels on the bike, but we have decided to put square ones on. Just isn't going to work and results in a very bumpy ride.

Our country is now in the worst condition since the great depression and is on the brink of becomming an evil, top down socilist tyrany. The fools in the RNC seek to annoint a leftist liberal for their canidate in direct opposition of the base of the party. More top down tyrany. Unless We The People rise up and vote in the primaries, we will be left with a country that none of us recognize.

Mitt Romney has taken the mud-slinging to a new height. Newt Gingrich responded in Kind. Rick Santorum is holding steady and I prefer his ways to all the others. I don't believe Ron Paul has a chance to beat Obama. The main objective of the opposition should be to tell us, the voters, what they will do for the Country and how they will do it. I am pretty tired of the mud-slinging. Both Newt and Rick will do well against Obama, as long as we can support the candidate that is nominated. If we are a splintered party, among the conservatives (of which I am one), Independents, Libertarians and Republicans, we are doomed as a Nation. We must support the nominee. Four more years of this current administration will take the USA even further towards the abyss of socialism, where everyone is equal and the government is supreme. Obama’s administration already defies the constitution in executing the laws of the land. We want to bring back the US Constitution’s. The law of the land has served us for more than 200 years - we need to bring it back! Only then, we can return to a Great Nation and where everyone has respect for law and order. We want everyone to have a fair chance of success, and not to bring the highest common denominator to the lowest. We won't have the good things that the US has provided with Obama and Company. Again, I feel Newt and Rick can both do get it done. I am very leery about Mitt.

Judy, I'd like to be the first in line for that debate. I can be found if you decide too look.

Sincerely,

John Q Citizen

I see the debate process as destructive. I do not want to elect the best "debater." I want to elect a President who possesses intelligence, integrity and an understanding of the powers and limitations of the office. Each candidate should have a forum in which to answer the same set of questions such as "Why are you running?" "What issue is most important and how will you implement your solution?" "What are your strengths?" "What are your weaknesses?"

The candidates need to stay on the issues and go after Obama. If they let the election go to Obama it will be on their heads. I think I will stay with Santorum.

Stop talking about each other and tell us your ideas and solutions for the many problems our country has to overcome. Go to a higher place. Stop making it a party against party race. Let's heal our country by turning to our Christian heritage and our constitution. Let's allow the Lord to bless us by getting it right before it's too late. We have to come together despite the politicians battle to separate and destroy the country. Can we set aside a day each week that we all pray for our country at the same time? Pray without ceasing. God Bless America.

I'm probably repeating myself but I think Adolph Hitler said it best. Not quite the quote but it's as close as I can remember it.

"What good fortune for government that the people do not think."

When I see who is in the White House and how the Congress is more interested in keeping their jobs, selling out to big business, I have to think that WE THE PEOPLE stopped thinking a long time ago.

Paul B.

Illegal Immigrants are ILLEGAL! What part of Illegal doesn’t the current administration understand - even some of the Republicans running for the nomination. The USA needs to pass an amendment to the US Constitution to rescind Amendment XIV. The amendment was passed to ensure the Black Americans were not denied citizenship. It was not meant to allow illegal immigrants to have children and the latter become US Citizens by birth. Just as in the children of ambassadorial families, they are not US citizens and retain the citizenship of their homeland. Only those children that are born of legal parents should have the US Citizenship granted. ALL illegal immigrants should be given a moratorium to repatriate on their own volition. If caught in the USA after the expiration of the moratorium, they should be imprisoned and work for the USA with no recompense to themselves and their families. I believe Sheriff Joe Arpaio has the right idea.

Also we need voter’s ID cards to keep anyone who does not have voting privileges to vote. We have ID’s for everything else. The voters need to show proof that they are US Citizens and are authorized to vote. Then we can have corruption-free elections.

I sincerely believe we are being FOOLED AGAIN,by the left and drive by media, just like they chose John McCain for our presidential canidate they have chosen Mitt Romney for us. We need to wise up to their plans before it is to late.., think about this and considerate it very carefully.

First of all, Judy, you apparently have never read any of the Patriot Posts.

Now on to the candidates. I, for one, appreciate the debates no matter how strongly each candidate struts their stuff. I do miss Michelle, though, because she kept it on track. Rick is now doing that service.

There are 4 types of people out there who will react differently to conflict. I for one do not sweep issues under the rug. I am more a dominant. Then there are the cooperatives and the collaborators. In a debate it is the dominant one who wins.

I want my leader to win. As many have written, it is a dangerouse world out there.

If you candidates are trying to use smoke and mirrors to sway people on the way we vote, i would suggest that you not try it, we have seen it for three years now, and we are on to Obama and what he has in store for us. If indeed you are honorable men, act the part.

I can only shake my head in disbelief as I hear Republican "talking heads" try to convince us that the current Republican primary shooting match is "good for the process". It does not take a deep thinker to realize that while it is important that we have a thoroughly vetted candidate (we're way beyond that point now), every day the candidates spend on character assassination of their fellow Republicans is one less day we have to focus on articulating the clear contrast between Obama's "vision" for the country and ours. Pick a nominee that has the best chance to defeat Obama and let's go to work NOW on the real enemy of freedom!

what a mess!!the pubics are selfdestructing..all have serious problems..i like newts mind..i dont find romney inspiring..he seems an empty vessel..dont like the idea that the people dont matter..only the party can decide..bambam will destroy mitt in a debate...newt would destroy bambam..but no one trusts newt.ask my 93 year

old cousin in florida..dems have fearmongered all pubics, especially for the elderly..pubics are cooked...maybe forever..where is zorro??need a strong leader, a third party..where is that masked rider?? this is it!! the end of the republican party and the republic forever...if bambam wins again we are all soylent green!!!

I have followed all the TV programs,your column, Mark Levin, Shawn Hannity and all the other information on the candidates. I am appalled how they comdemn each other. They need to comdemn the President,his policies and the Congress.

They need to finally tell me what they will do to get our country moving again. Cut the spending, cut the budget, help small business, allow the Keystone pipeline,build a border fence, stop spending money on other countries and start taking care of our own people instead of China and half the arab world.

Mr. Obama has notkept one single one of the promises proferred in his acceptance speach ~ he ns NO Qualifictions for being president and was pushed my people such as Nasty pelosi and Harry Reid.

I do not understand why these people in Congress are not limited to time served as is the president. All they do is spend their time to see how much money they can con from the public and do the insider tradign the we the people are not allowed to perform.

Just when is it time to call "Enough is Enough" and throw them all out of office for being conspirators ? It is time for a real Change in government and we should Throw all the Bums out !'

The Republican hopefuls need to stop bashing each other and get to main event - get after Obama. Obama is the one they have to beat and unseat, not each other. Let the American people decide who is the best candidate between them. All this "He said, She said" is counter-productive.

If y'all get a chance, read Michelle Malkin's column today. She makes her point all too well. They are what they are, and you just can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear no matter how hard you try.

Rick Santorum has displayed a decourum that I do not see in Newt Or Mitt and he wants to dicuss issues and plans for recovery but it seems as though petty squabbling on character asassination are more the menu. I want to hear about how we are going to rid ourselves of this gross misrepresentation of American values, traditions and assault on our freedoms and security.. In other words we are seeking solid leadership based on merit, character and intelligence, we are tired of the politicks as usual and we know what we want.

It's time to change the way we allow elected officials to hold office, accountability and putting the civil back into public service.

"How could each candidate get more serious?" Stop the personal "dirt" slinging! Discussion should deal with the issues, the matters that are of concern to the Republic. Not personal foibles or errors in the past.

Each candidate is, supposedly, investigated as to qualification; age, citizenship, et al, according to the laws and the Constitution. We need to hear a plan for furthering the Republic, and the populace. Personal diatribe should be omitted, as any personal comments in re family history, or members of the family. Facts, Ma'am, just the facts!

It may be too late already as I believe that the Republican candidates have cut the field down to the point that Obama will have no trouble getting re-elected (and destroying the remains of this once great nation). The bickering & in-fighting between the candidates have only served to identify the 'faults' of each other thus laying the path for definite failure. Instead of this nit picking, they should have been more active in playing up their own strengths & what they plan to do to return this country to an even keel. Unfortunately, I fear that it is already too late. The Republican candidates have supplied Obama with all the ammunition that he needs to easily plow them (& this nation) under at the next election. Sound taps, turn off the lights and close the doors - the United States Of America is about to end.

Go after Obama and be specific. This stupidity of attacking each other makes no sense and Romney's continual attacks on Gingrich and whoever else who might be a contender are sickening. Anyone who wants to the office that bad doesn't deserve it IMHO.

Newt and Mitt. Quit acting like a couple kids fighting over a toy. Tell us what you will do for the country and then concemtrate on doing it.

You inquired, following Dr. Sowell's excellent offering, "How could each candidate get more serious?"

Although it's a valid question, doesn't seem to be related to Dr. Sowell's saying "It's time to get serious," which presumably referred to political pundits and we the people in general getting serious. The candidates surely wouldn't be putting themselves and their families through the proverbial wringer, were they not serious.

Given the state of the nation today, when even those who claim to be on your side of the aisle attack you, why would any honest person of integrity and convictions wish to run for any elected govenment office? Why risk one's reputation, one's fortune, one's life, and those of one's family, to such an ungrateful, often envious, usually forgetful, population? Most of the greatest people in world history, such as Churchill and Thatcher, e.g., were cast aside just as soon as they'd worked their nation out of danger.

What qualifies political pundits to pronounce judgements such as "mediocre," and "flawed," on any candidates who are willing and able to run for public office? What have the majority of them done for their country by way of taking any serious risks of anything of value, including their lives in military service? How many, so quick to say "Shame on him" have achieved their educations, whatever they are, via government assistance of one sort or another? How many have never been tempted or sucumbed to cheating on their spouses? How many have never lied, cheated, or stolen some trivial thing, never taken advantage of anyone, or gossiped, or ate or drank too much? How many, whatever their incomes, are deeply in debt?

Such questions and their answers for each and every one of us, is what I'd call "overdue in getting serious." We want civility? Why are we uncivil? If we don't want hypocrits running our government, it behooves us, in whatever our endeavors, not to be hypocrits ourselves, seems to me. Truth is, much of our nation right now is much like the picture of "Dorian Gray!" We can but pray Heaven has mercy on us and does not give us what we deserve.

I agree completely with Dr. Sowell. I'm tired of reading the opinions of imperfect people demanding perfection from others. The only perfect person I've ever heard of was crucified on a cross, lest we forget. If we need to know more about candidates' plans and principles, which we should, we should be demanding from Media that the appropriate, rather than ridiculous, questions are asked of each candiate.

Furthermore, we should have been demanding long ago that Media ask Obama exactly the same questions asked of conservatives, and that they call him on it, when he replies with empty rhetoric or evades the question! Yet, if the left owns Media, and most of the Press, it's unlikely that will happen.

@Judy:

No intelligent patriot will take your challenge. We do not debate MORONS. A debate with you would only take the issues to the highest level of your perception...NONSENSE.

@Patriots: Since it appears that the cowards heretofore elected to Congress will remain inert to the issue of Obama ineligibility for the remainder of his term, I am reserving my vote for the candidate who will pledge to arrest Obama, Holder, and the Communist Czars on Inauguration Day and give them a speedy trial for treason against the Republic.

Anything less is unacceptable.

How can each candidate get serious?

I don't think they can. Most of these candidates, and ones in previous election cycles, as Thomas Sowell said, have already been poisoned. They're not only poisoned as evidenced by their attacks on each other in the circular firing squad, but they're poisoned by the temptation of wealth, garnered through holding public office.

If holding office wasn't so damn lucrative, we wouldn't have such fervor in trying to achieve it. And if all Americans were equally responsible to pay taxes, we wouldn't have our brother and sister leeches voting for pandering politicians, who are expected to create and expand entitlement programs. And then, we wouldn't have such government dependency that produces more leeches and more pandering politicians.

Holding office is a public service, and one in which you should never become rich. The passage of time has not been good for America. Our political evolution has taken us from integrity to the gutter. How many politicians become rich while in office? It's staggering, and shameful. Compare that to the fact that the Founders all suffered financially, among other ways, while they were "serving" the country. Their service was with the singular purpose to create the best government possible; not to fatten their wallets.

Gosh, I don't know. Like maybe concentrating on issues such as the economy, national defense, illegal immigration, creating jobs, taxes, etc., etc., etc., rather than the picayune peccadillos - real or imagined - of primary opponents.

When will the GOP "Washington elites" come to their senses and stop condeming Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul, Michele Bachman, etc. (conservatives)? And, when will they stop pushing left-of-center loser candidates (Mitt Romney and John McCain) who have no chance in hell of defeating Obama because those two are nothing but "more of the same" weak candidates and DO NOT represent sincere conservatives and Christians.

Not often, but now and then Noonan comes on as fairly accurate. Seems that way this time. The Republican Party is, in my view, self-destructing as it is now being presented. What is a Republican? Should be all the description required. This is a Republic, not a Democracy. Republican? Be one or be something else! If one is not totally for the preservation of the Republic, he should label himself another identity. Democrats, as a rule, do stick together and pursue one goal. Which usually defeats a splintering Republican Party, and Republican candidates. There should be no such animal as a "moderate republican." Those we are now offered as Republican candidates are destroying each other. Nobody wins! The survivor is damaged to the extent he will likely not win the ultimate battle.

I think all the Republican candidates should take a page from Newt Gingrich's play book and start by dismissing the moderator's question as frivolous, divisive, and unworthy of a Presidential Debate (they ALL are, without exception). Then they should proceed to discuss the manifold failures of the current administration, and contrast that to the course that they would propose instead.

A couple thoughts:

For the most part, debates are nothing more than a 3rd party trying to get two other parties to fight. Why? Because it takes the focus off of the real issues and Obama! Even when Santorum called CNN on this at the last debate, the "moderators or 3rd party" continued the "He called your mother a (blank). What do you have to say about that?" Nil on the economy, jobs, bailouts, scandals, etc.

The media is purposely drilling conservatives that step on a stage and soft-balling liberals in an attempt to drain the pool of potential nominees. This is why we are stuck with this final four. No one in their right mind would want to go through this vetting process. I'm sure numerous books could be written to compare/contrast the media coverage of 2008 and 2012 elections.

Ken Blackwell's observation about Obama's hostility to family is correct, yet it contains superfluous words: You could strike "faith" and "God-given" without changing the meaning a whit. That means it has nothing to do with faith.

The issues are life and family, not religion.

Each candidate could get serious and begin to ignore each other while rolling out what they would do to help the country get back on the right track.

Each candidate should also be taking Obama to task and pinpointing just what that particular item was and why it was harmful to U.S.citizens.

Our candidates have fallen into a trap when they run each other down. They should each point out their strengths, admit it like a man the areas they failed at and what they would do to change that area back to success. They should keep the American people in their vision at all times.

In short, start talking about all the horrible things Obama has done, talk about the good things you have done, answer honestly about things you messed up and what you would do differently, and show yourself to be the candidate that all people would want at the helm of the Presidency no matter what your party affiliation is.

HI Judy...I'm in favor of everyone paying their fair share of taxes too. Including the millions of household who pay absolutley no income tax and get an additional check from the Govt. called Earned Income Tax credit. I don't mind that these household get the credit but let's call it what it is WELLFARE!!!

Jim

Each candidate could get serious by READING THE CONTITUTION and giving it just a little consideration.

Your Nobama (slashed logo) bumper sticker is missing the ears. Kevin Jackson over at the Blacksphere showed us how it is done. A pair of black Mickey Mouse ears do wonders for that logo!

Please stop degrading each other. Point out what's wrong with our country and how you would fix it.

The constant character assassination of fellow Republicans by those vying for nomination for the presidency are self-defeating. They need to concentrate on the real enemy... Obama. I suggest that they tout their own successes and their plans to help the country get back on its feet while pointing out all the errors and constitutional violations of the Obama administration and his congressional cronies. They might also point out that Obama was never properly vetted in the first place, as any other candidate would have been.

"I will sit down and debate anyone---" You are on, Judy! Name the place, I suggest this forum, which I am certain will agree. You state you are "middle class". What is your description of that group of Americans? Republican or Democrat? I am military (retired), WWII, Korea, RVN, multiple tours each, and some other places on the planet where we had affairs. Senior enlisted, which means I was educated in the school of experience, not an elite scholastic environment. I am a Republican. Not as a political group, but as a believer in the concepts of the Founders of this Republic. Those who are not Republican believers are destroying this Union! Some are Democrats, some are RINO's. The blame game does not do it, lady! As one does, one is perceived to be. Mr.Obama is not a Republican, in that he demonstrates he does not believe in the concepts of a Republic. The New World Order (NWO), as an epithet, can be applied to many. Both Bushes, Clinton, Roosevelt (Franklin), and a couple of others in the interim of Washington's service to this Republic. I suggest a reality check, accomplished by a reading, and understanding, of history. This Republic was born in the hearts of men who wished to be free, not slaved by tyrants called kings. This Republic was baptized by fire. It does seem, now, that we have become full circle, and once again a would be king is gnawing at the roots of that Tree of Liberty. It should soon be watered, with the blood of tyrants, and Patriots! (again!)

show how good they are, show how they will change things and quit trying to build themselves up by running opponents down. Run on your own merits.

They could start by attacking Obama with the same zeal they are exerting on each other. All they are accomplishing is making ALL look undesirable, a win for BO. But when they get finished with each other the Dems won't have anything to expose, so that may be a plus.

I just wanted to remind myself that all this rattling about rules and regulations is for one reason. Left to a free choice industry leaders choose the money over peoples rights. That's why Unions and child labor laws were added. Man's free will is just not going to have the fare image without rules. This generation is all about it self and how it knows better than our forefathers. We had a strong America when we came together for the common good not self.

Watch the movie Obama's Plan and see the actual goings on that our government faces everyday trying to get big business to create a America that is good for Americans. There will never be recovery until the economics become so harsh big business goes out of business. Government must take control with regulations to stop another greed grab. Free market yes but controlled by legal responsibilities that don't exist today. Who ever gets elected will have the same problems because the same walls will be there, get it? Let waist our time talking about how to fix it, not who's is going to be the next Superman in Government.

Please stop talking about Social Security breaking the Nation. It is fine until 2037 unlike anything else. It is not a handout. People pay into it for retirement because everyone knows if the Gov does not help you save you will not. Of course we can go back to the idea of half the Nations old people starving which would really hurt the economy. Congress needs to payback the money it took from SS over the years and will take from again when this new tax break is pushed through. It is SS money taken out of the pot, the next generations retirement. Don't you young people care? Who's going to feed you when you are 65? Government spending is on things that don't help in the future, it only makes people rich today which is why the Manufacturing base is gone, they did not tool for the future until now. Greed again.

One more thing. The reason we don't have a pipe line is because we owe China too much money and now they are interfering in our politics. Besides it will be a joke to see a Chinese tanker get into that harbor. Did you know China offers to build half of the factory if you go there with yours? Now why are we loosing jobs?

Judy does NOT deserve the honor of being called a "MORON" so let us not insult that population by that comparison, for Judy has only the thought processes of an amoeba at best.And those like her are the ones that put the "community organizer" in the White House.

The 2 leading nincompoops could withdraw and leave the field open for a 5th or 6th candidate who is conservative, consistant, principled and a big improvement over what we have at this time.

Get more serious? Ron Paul is dead serious about his

ideas. The other two are just "lie through their teeth"

phonies, and one of them very ill-tempered, at that.

Are people really so stupid as to not see the right

course of action here?

Please just tell us how you are going to fix the problems caused by that idiot who now has the office. Attack the idiot in office not each other because the thing you say about each other for the most part are truths stretched beyond belief and can be verified. Talk to us like we at least have a high school education.

Hugh Heweitt had a column in the Washington Examiner today which said that it isn't going to matter who wins the GOP primaries this year, just like it didn't matter in 1952 and 1980. Obama has done such a poor job that whoever wins the nomination will beat him. Even Time Magazine in 1980 called Reagan "A Fresh Start."

They should all focus on the actual problems facing our nation and get the people to understand how serious our fiscal problems are and suggest actual solutions. Get into the loss of our rights and what we can do to get them restored. The Bill of rights are being shredded one by one. If the people don't understand the problems, they will never understand what must be done to restore our country. We need border security. We need a president that will abide by the Constitution and require the same of our elected reps. Without a strong leader this country will soon be a part of history.

When I enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1960, I took an oath to uphold, protect and defend the Constitution and that oath still is binding today. I'll die a free man rather than become a slave.

All Republican candidates need to focus on the issues and Obama's failure to serve adequately as President of the most powerful free republic the world has ever known.

Bickering among themselves will only serve to see the reelection of Liberal Socialists across the board. Now is the time to unite in an aggressive campaign to win back our country's future for our grandchildren. The voters will pick the one whom they feel is best suited to do that without further GOP in-fighting.

Who Pays Income Taxes

I guess one of my pet peeves is trying to have a conversation with some one who state a "fact" they have no way of knowing it is a fact! They are merely repeating something they have heard. The following is an example of how I try to find out for myself.

The following information is from the Director of the Statistics of Income Division as it was provided to the Office of Tax Analysis of the Treasury Department.

A taxable income of $269,496 and up would place you in the top 1% income earner and your group paid 34.75% of Federal Personal Income Tax.

From $114,729 to $269,495 is the top 5% and your group plus the top 1% paid 53.84% of Federal Personal Income Tax.

From $83,220 to $114,728 is the top 10% and your group plus the top 1% and 5% paid 65.04% of Federal Personal Income Tax.

From $50,607 to $83,219 is the top 25% and your group plus the top 1%, 5%, and 10% paid 82.69% of Federal Personal Income Tax.

From $25,491 to $50,606 is the top 50% and your group plus the top 1%, 5%, 10%, and 25% paid 95.79 of Federal Personal Income Tax.

An income of less than $25,490 is the bottom 50% and your group paid 4.21% of Federal Personal Income Tax.

Upon receipt of this report the Joint Economic Committee of the Congress of the United States issued the following statement:

"The date publicly released by the Statistics of Income Division reflect the steeply progressive impact of the federal income tax. These date must be considered before any valid distributional evaluation of various income tax proposals can be made. Unfortunately, statistics portraying tax policy changes as skewed often are released without disclosing the share of taxes actually paid by various income groups. In other words, data on the share of taxes paid before and after a tax change would take effect are often concealed, producing misleading results. The bottom line is that these data are needed for an informed discussions of a wide array of tax issues."

The following was taken from tables provided by the Internal Revenue Service, and they represent the Federal Income Tax Schedule for a Married Couple filing jointly. The 1st represents the 2000 tax year (before Bush tax cut) and the 2nd represents the 2003 tax year (after Bush tax cut).

2000

15% rate applied to income up to 43,850

28% rate applied to income from 43,851 up to 105,950

31% rate applied to income from 105,951 up to 161,450

36% rate applied to income from 161,451 up to 288,350

39.6% rate applied to income from 288,351 and up

2003

10% rate applied to income up to 14,000

15% rate applied to income from 14,001 up to 56,800

25% rate applied to income from 56,801 up to 114,650

28% rate applied to income from 114,651 up to 174,700

33% rate applied to income from 174,701 up to 311,950

35% rate applied to income from 311,951 and up

I would suggest you do your own math - you might even consider getting your own schedules. I used the following assumptions: Married couple file joint return to produce a tax liability before any deductions. I did not assume any children, etc. I wanted a fair way to make comparisons between tax liability before and after the Bush tax cut.

In 2000 a couple with an income of $14,000 would have a income tax liability of $2,100.00

In 2003 that same couple would have a income tax liability of $0.00. That is a 100% reduction and a savings of $2,100.00.

In 2000 a couple with an income of $56,800.00 would have a income tax liability of $10,203.22.

In 2003 that same couple would have a income tax liability of $6,420.00. That is a reduction of 37% and a savings of $3,783.22.

In 2000 a couple with an income of $100,000.00 would have a income tax liability of $22,299.50.

In 2003 that same couple would have a income tax liability of $18,619.60. That is a reduction of 16.5% and a savings of $3.679.90.

In 2000 a couple with an income of $300,000.00 would have a income tax liability of $91,466.59.

In 2003 that same couple would have a income tax liability of $80,447.57. That is a reduction of 12% and a savings of $11,019.00.

Please note that the lower your income the higher is the percentage of income tax reduction due to the Bush tax cut. What these figures prove is that the "rich" now pay an even higher percent of the total federal income tax paid than they did before the Bush tax cuts.

Remember magician's! They try to get you to focus on something other than what they are really doing - they don't want you to catch them in the act of tricking you!!

It is true that a couple with a $300,000 taxable income is potentially going to receive a larger dollar amount returned to them as a result of the Bush tax cut than a couple that reported a taxable income of $40,000.00. Do you believe that is an honest way to honestly judge the fairness of a tax reduction program??

The Federal Income Tax is money taken from an income earner by the Federal government to use for the benefit of the citizens of the United States.

I will end with this question. Under current law a couple makes $14,000.00 pays no federal income tax. A couple that makes $300,000.00 pays $80,447.57 in federal income tax. Now here is the questions: Does it take more military to defend a couple that makes $300,000.00 than it does to defend a couple that make $14,000.00 or is the couple that makes $300,000.00 paying to defend the couple that makes $14,000.00?? God bless those high income earners!!

I look forward to your comments. Sincerely, Tom Pinkley

First, the Republican party has to provide a political platform with an agenda that Americans can support. Next, they need to nominate a leader that people want to follow.

Constant criticism of everything, including each other, Republican Congress saying no to everthing, even their own proposals, is not a platform of ideas and actions.

If the only agenda the Republicans have is to beat Obama, the Rebublicans only show how hollow their party really is.

Candidates should stop attacking one another and get cracking with a serious conservative platform that deconstructs big government and destroys what Obama hath wrought. Point out how Obama is acting outside of the limits of the Constitution in every instance since he has been elected and how those actions affect all of us. Get back to the basics of the U.S. Constitution and educate the public about what that means. Too many people do not understand this nation's heritage, are ignorant of the history and workings of government and need to believe that they can make a difference. I know too many people who are not registered to vote just so they can avoid being called for jury duty. How's that for giving up your freedoms? Let's make it a point to educate the public to the voting booth in November

Draft Fred Thompson and Allen West at the convention

FIRST THE REPUBLICANS AND TEA PARTY SHOULD STOP BASHING ONE ANOTHER. THEY SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES LIKE THE NATIONAL DEBT,FEDERAL RESERVE WITH NO CONTROLS, OUR ECONOMY, JOBS, SOCIAL SECURITY WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND THAT IT WAS PUT INTO. THE MONEY WE GIVE FOREIGN NATIONS MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE BUT NOT ONE CENT FOR TRIBUTE AND MANY MORE ISSUES OF GREAT IMPORTANCE. OH I FORGOT OBAMANATION CARE WHO SOMEONE WROTE HE OR SHE IS MIDDLE CLASS AND DOES BETTER UNDER DEMOCRATS. WELL THEY BETTER WAKE UP AND OPEN THEIR EYES. OUR NATION WENT FROM ABOUT TEN TRILLION TO ALMOST 15 TRILLION SINCE THIS OBAMANATION TOOK OFFICE AND IF THEY READ ALL OF THE HIDDEN EAR MARKS IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL WHICH THIS SAME PERSON PROBABLY NEVER LOOKED AT. THEY WILL MAYBE REALIZE THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN FOR A COSTLY RIDE.

RE: Hamilton.

I know this is a little off today's topic. I am replying to a question directed at me Friday last.

I can always count on several of you to make me think.

How can I fix it? I honestly don't know. To let the system do it as M. Romney said, is only partially correct. It will still produce a wealth flow from bottom to top. the lower class will become street urchins and the middles class will become slaves to the upper class. Our own history has shown us this. A friend of mine sent me a link. http://www.propublica.org/article/freddy-mac-mortgage-eisinger-arnold If this is the case, what happened under Bush/Obama, they aren't the problem, over or under regulation isn't;t the problem though I hate over regulation. the problem is a symptom of a disease and the disease is greed.

A few miles away an 18 year old drop out is on trial as a Robo signer for foreclosure forms that does not exist, the banks can't find the mortgage papers, can't prove they ever loaned money on the property. when asked, "Do you know what you're signing?" He said, "No." Greed, corporate greed is the problem. We lost our way. Until we fix the problem and fix illagle practices which Well Fargo admitted to along with B&A, and others, we get what we deserve, a sick economy.

I've talked to the 99% locally. Nationwide, they are dysfunctional but one thing holds them together, corporate greed and why hasn't anyone been indicted for this?

My friend, we can start to fix this when we hold those accountable. My on congressperson told me and Mike T, He receives as many as 3x per day lobbyists for those in the finance field. The editor made a brilliant piece about usury. Well he gets lobbyist from them to.

To fix it, hold them accountable. In order to do that, we as a nation must first beg forgiveness from God for allowing it to happen in the first place. Without you knowing it you made me view what I considered a black and white problem in a different light. It's not a conservative/liberal problem, it's a spiritual problem.

I'm afraid we will have to pay for our sins David paid for the death of his new born son. He took responsibility and soldiered on. God forgave him but he still paid the price. Morning Glory, if you read me, comment if you will. I will not shoot back for I think Hamilton put his finger on the problem.

Greed drives our government. We are so worried about the candidates taking each other out, writing campaign adds for Obama, a title, we forget, a title means little if we don't back it up with spirituality. When we say, "If you are a member of any other party, "you can't be a christian." that's cleaves right down the middle of our nation souls and it is good talking points but no one is looking at the white elephant in the room for we are worried about titles and piddly things.As long as we do that do you think any light is going to shine down from above? to fix a problem we must acknowledged why there is a problem, fix that.

If I had my say, quit killing work programs, food stamps, tax breaks for the middle income, make the playing field equal for we are all equal in the sight of God, work together as a team and seek his face. Maybe we might need to go back to the early church. The ministers out there know this term is correct, I;ve taught it enough in early church history. "Early Church Communism" You can see it in action in the Book of Acts. everyone put in the pot and each got "according to his need." I'm not advocating it here but at least they tried to do the right thing for everyone is equal in the sight of God.

I'm afraid at times the answer might be, "YOU didn't keep my precepts so pay for it. I forgive you but the price must be paid. It's a lesson you see time and time again in the O.T.

.......the same way Hitler came into power........

It only takes COURAGE to get serious.

Courage about clean politics: Return to Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment of not speaking ill of another Republican. That is to say - courage to not be self serving; and only tell voters why they should be elected President rather than why another Republican should not.

2. Courage about Obama: Tell American voters ALL the reasons why Obama should not be re-elected. That can fill up an evening.

3. Courage about answering questions: Tell the truth and refuse to answer the numerous stupid questions they get from journalists. Never answer a question that starts out "Some people say.......what do you say?" And when they do answer a question, do so without pontificating on a fence.

Always been this way and always will be this way. I'm not sure why we continue to go through this "woe is we" drill every time we go through our election process. BOTH parties' candidates take pot shots at each other during the primaries. Name ONE who didn't ... besides Reagan. I can't think of any, on either side of the political aisle. Please spare us from the hand wringing; these guys will stand and fall against Obama based on their performance against him, not on what damage they've done to each other during any of the 5,000 debates.

You had a chance to straighten out the mind of Judy and others like her that see no problem with Barry. But what did you do? Tell her to quit drinking the Kool-Aid. C'mom, at least make some bullet points for her to digest. Now she simply believes you to be a shill for the Republicans with no counter argument.

The beloved leaders of Washington DC will kill children....but not rats. We live in such a sick society. Where's the outrage?

Q.) How could each candidate be more serious?

A.) Ensure that they are never seen anywhere near a Bilderberg Group meeting and eschew anything New World Order. In other words, vow to return this country to its Constitutional roots and reverse the damage done to our freedoms. Ron Paul is our only hope for that and if he is not the Republitard nominee, I will vote for him as an Independent fully realizing that my choice of Demoncrat or Republitard is the difference between fast forward and slow burn.

It would be a breath of fresh air if at the debates, they looked each other in the eye and said, "I think I'm better for the job than you are, but if the American people see otherwise, I will be your strongest ally and you can count on me for my whole-hearted support". I just hope the destructive rhetoric has not caused irreparable damage to both of them so that this scenario could be meaningful and not viewed as a big show.

Planned Parenthood as an encouragement to reduce the randomness of pregnancy may be a good idea, but it was not invented by Margaret Sanger. As it is now implemented it is the camel's nose, Eugenics Light, with a tremendous weight of human life spent in abortion. Such cheapening of life will lead to Soylent Green where redundant mature humans volunteer to be discarded or are selected by a Committee. I refuse to support Planned Parenthood with gifts; I would prefer not to support them with taxes.

1) Focus like a laser beam on the tremendous harm Barack Obama is doing to the nation, now and for the future.

2) Don't be afraid to say that paying the lawful tax rate for income based on it's source is not a crime.

Too bad Santorum can't get a better showing.

We have long been Patriots of our dear Constitution and Bill of Rights but this in-fighting between our GOP candidates is nothing short of pathetic and sad. The more money you have the bigger the ammo against the other candidate/s. We, as well as the community in which we live, are sick at heart and TIRED of it already. We want to hear what these contenders are going to do about the dire situation we are in with this current administration. We could care less what who did in the past and how they did it. Let's 'move on' and get to the beef of the reason each candidate is running for our highest office. There are a couple of GOOD candidates in this GOP race; let's see what you are made of 'today' and share with us how you are going to help us get back on the track to 'The shining city in the sky'!

Stick to the issues that they believe will help our country and continue to point out the many weaknesses in Obama's administration. Place emphasis on the poor showings of the present administrations and what can be done to improve them. The people are not as stupid as most politicians think they are. Let the other Republican contenders alone.

Judy, you must not have children or any in your family, if you cannot see what the future will be for them if this regime is allowed to go on. Do you want domination of muslims?? That is what is happening in many coutries and even in some of our major cities. Do you want all the social services that we have ruined by illegal immigrants that have anchor babies, then over-run the free clinics and live off welfare that we the tax-payers support. Already, there are almost half of the population in the U.S. that do not work, but live off tax money that we pay. I am 72 years old and am still working because my retirement funds have gone down so much, that I fear to quit. My healt is excellent now, but in the future, will there be funds enough to take care of us. Oh yes, the trend that is becoming prevalent will be death panels to decide if we will be given the care that we need or to decide if we need to die to not be a burden on society. I ask, what about the millions of people that have been on welfare so long that they do not even try to work, or have so many babies, that they could not work. Their children in turn do the same thing and a cycle is started. I do not mind my tax money going to help disabled retired people that have worked their adult lives, or people that have been handicapped through no fault of their own.

That is another thing entirely.

I am afraid it is going to be people like yourself that does not try to understand where government is using our money that will be responsible for re-electing this man that is ruining our country.

God help us all if this does happen. I pray for my grandchildren.

Does anyone remember the vitriol that passed between the supporters of Messers Jefferson and Adams -- a vitriol so severe that it was decades later before they reconciled?

When it comes to politics in this Republic, "There's nothing new under the sun."

I, too, believe that everyone should pay his(her) fair share. That is why I support a national sales tax and a repeal of the income tax.

It has been pointed out that John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, hurled even worse negative campaign slurs against each other and justify the mudslinging between Mitt and Newt as "that's politics". Main difference, back then there was no internet, no twitter, facebook blogs, etc, and pony express took weeks, if not months, to reach the citizens. Too bad. Obama can wait until the party contenders have totally turned off the populace, and win re-election even on his failed policies.

These potential candidates need to stop attacking each other. If they attack anyone it should be Obama or the losers from the democratic side of congress. It is time they clearly outline how they will govern if elected, where they stand on major issues and specifically what tax reforms they will support as well as reforms needed in congress and whether or not they support reining in these bureaucrats, putting the responsibility back upon congress to enact any legislation that has the power of law.

As Peggy Noonan said in the very next Patriot Post post....RR was a WINNER because he said, "We believe in this and this, not that"...not going into negatives. I recall his response to negative attacks was usually things like, "Well, there you go again" with an ironic smile on his face. The happy warrior. Let's see some of THAT, Mr. Romney and Mr. Gingrich! You're both qualified out the wazoo...prove it - quit denigrating each other!!! We conservatives are sick of it.

How could the candidates get serious? If they want whats best for America then Romney and Gingrich should drop out and endorse Ron Paul. As for their personal attacks I believe it to be the single most important tool used to opponents,why would any decent person subject themselves and their families to this circus?

For the greedy,power hungry politician they will do anything to win.The democrats long ago made a science of personal attacks pubs are getting better at it.If you have nothing good to say then say nothing won't win an election.

Dear Burt,

Perhaps one reason the Democrats want the rats treated so humanely is that they personally identify with them--you know, disgusting, low-down, sleazy, filthy, disease-carrying, reproducing-young-in-masses-vermin. Yep, I'd say that pretty much sums it up~~

A moral man is an honorable man....If they lie in their personal lives they will certainly be liars in their public lives. If you're a womanizer, it means you have issues with power and women. Sorry but I want my politicians to be above such things. Whether they're running for presidency or any public office. Yes, I think they should be better in every way from the rest of us. Besides I know lots of intelligent, moral, wise men and women. There's no reason why we can't get the same kind of public servants. It was appropriate for those women to come forward in regards to Herman Cain just like they did with Clinton. These people are poor quality because our candidates are paid for by special interest. We don't have people who are willing to be great public servants for a few years.

We have no great men and women anymore...

The candidates can serious by stopping the personal attacks, stopping the lies, stop pushing twisted facts, KEEP TO THE ISSUES, - THESE CANDIDATES HAVE GOT TO STOP THEIR NONSENSICAL PERSONAL ATTACKS BEFORE THE WHOLE MESS BLOWS UP RESULTING IN A 2ND DISASTROUS TERM FOR THE MOST HORRIFIC PRESIDENT THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD THE MISFORTUNE TO ELECT. For the sake of the USA and its citizens, please stop the mud slinging and stick to the serious issues now facing our country. We are on the edge of the abyss; the GOP candidates had better either straighten up and act decently and elect a conservative or continue on this self-destructive path and our country ends up being pushed over the edge into the abyss from which we will NEVER arise. This is THE most important election in the history of the United States of America. For the sake of our country; stop destroying one another and get to the real work of electing someone who will put this country back on the right track and lead this country back to its once great stature.

robert..you're so right I wish I would have mentioned RPaul. I'll vote for him no matter who the republicans nominate. I'll write him in. The only honest, honorable, intelligent, wise man who's run for office in a long time.

After hearing those war mongering candidates repub's should'nt vote for anyone of them. RPaul is the only candidate to be considered. These other guys are on to wars with Iran, cuba and now south america...they're just plain crazy..they've not learned a thing about our meddling in other countries business. Do we always have to have an enemy to build our military industrial complex at the risk of breaking our country?

The only fair tax is when everyone pays the same amount. Anything else is class warfare. It wouls alos eliminate the IRS as no tax forms to process. And what business of the government is it what someone earns?

Oops forgot to proofread.

The only fair tax is when everyone pays the same amount. Anything else is class warfare. It would also eliminate the IRS as no tax forms to process. And what business of the government is it what someone earns?

Colonize the moon? Has Newt Ginrich lost his mind?

Perhaps if we had a balanced budget and a surplus, it could be done. Now is definitely not the time for such dreams. Everyone should concentrate on defeating Obama, and repairing the damage he has done to this country and economy. And then get to repealing all of the unconstitutional legislation of the past 100 years.

The best thing Flip Romney could do is drop out of the race before any further damage is done. It seems that Flip Romney is unaware of what many of the Conservatives know. Flip Romney will fail if he is the nominee at least as big as McCain or maybe even more so. Even George Soros has reportedly said there is not much diffenece between Obama and Romney. As a Conservative I refuse to hold my nose and vote for Romney. I am also well aware that others hold the same opinion and if enough of us withhold voting for Romney then he will not win the Presidency

To: Rifleman

I think we can all understand vitriol in the heat of argument, for as long as it lasts - but how long it lasts is the trick.

In America we're always debating between the Conservative and the Liberal ideologies of how best to run our government. With our current state of affairs (our economy in the dumper and people becoming genuinely afraid over impending government regulations and the loss of freedom they represent), I think we have, right now, a rare opportunity to see Liberalism in full flower. And with that opportunity, we, as American voters, easily ought to be able to conclude that the Liberal path is the wrong path.

If we conclude that, then the only reason for vitriol to continue, is for the losing side, having been proven wrong, to be unable to swallow their pride and to yield, and put down their daggers. Despite our whole history as a Constitutional Republic, conspicuously conflicting with Liberalism periodically all along the way, the Left refuses to yield. They are responsible for tremendous, protracted suffering, spanning generations upon generations. It's all in the fragile ego and the arrogance that denies it.

I agree with several commenters that the candidates need to stop degrading each other with personal attacks. Its sickening, and oh, so tiresome. America is at the brink of being sent over the edge of no return by an extremely liberal, narcissitic president, and we need real leadership shown by our candidates now, not attacks on each other. Children--children---children----stop it!! Thats what I'm reminded of-----two children telling tales on each other with one trying to out-yell the other, all to no result except exasperation and anger by grass roots Americans. With that said, however, if I had to vote today, Newt Gingrich would get my vote because he is the only one who is giving a plan for restoring America, while Mitt Romney continues to read off his talking points. Boring! But, again, to Newt and to Mitt---stop the stupid bickering and get on to the real issues and concerns of the American people.

As far as presidential (or any other) campaigns:

1. Tell us what you think are the top issues.

2. Tell us why and how you think the government should, or should NOT, be involved and your detailed plans to resolve those issues.

3. Go to the next campaign stop, repeat.

If the RNC puts forth yet another lackluster, or worse infamous, easily defeated candidate they will no longer exist as a viable second party.

I've read both Hamilton and Rifleman comments both above and below my comments. Spot on.

I would like to add one thing worthy of note. Money runs the political machine, this is true.

Pride and power also runs the political machine. As a nation we have an over abundance of pride and pride always leads to everything that's unsavory.

What everyone seems to have forgotten is that Gingrich consistently refused to criticize his fellow Republicans until Romney spent millions in Iowa attacking Newt and costing him many votes in the process. Now everyone appears to be decrying the ugliness of the discourse without remembering which candidate started it all. The amnesia of the voters never ceases to amaze me. Apparently we like a good flogging as much as we like complaining about it. Sheesh!

Think of this as a job interview and not a popularity contest. Leave the fluff to the democrats, we want substance. Be smart and don't let the press make a sucker out of you, and remember they are not on your side! This election is absolutely crucial for us to win, losing is not an option. If Obama wins another term he will think he has a mandate. In many ways we are like Lobsters in a kettle, we won't know we're cooked until we are no more!

Stop attacks on other candidates!

Point out what is wrong with current Federal Government policies AND offer practical solutions. Herman Cain's 9-9-9 Tax plan is an example.

Charles

Since the candidate that raises the most money usually wins elections, that must mean that elections are usually bought even though we supposedly have a representative government.

Newt and Mit are the lesser of two evils but still a very slim improvement over Obama. I cannot begin to understand why more people aren't on the side of Ron Paul. A true conservative in and out. A true defender of liberty. I am amazed that this site doesn't back him with vibrant enthusiasm. If it is Mit or Newt expect more government spending, a weak economy and more war. Smh.

How could each candidate get more serious? Tell us how you plan to right the wrongs committed under Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. Tell us how you plan to stop this immature and incessant internal warfare of American against American. Tell us how you plan to address a national debt that is 100+% of GDP and growing by a trillion plus each year. Tell us how you plan to cut the deficit in the fact of stagnant revenues. Tell us how you plan to get government out of the way of job creation and economic growth. Tell us how you plan to make federal revenue generation equitable for all, rather than relying on just over half of workers.

I TOO COULD NOT LISTEN TO HIS LIES, ARROGANCE, BULLING & HOODWINKING THE POOR SOULS WHO STILL BELEIVE HIM JUDY, WHAT IS THERE TO DEBATE? GOOD PRESIDENT??????????/ NAME ME ONE GOOD THING HE HAS DONE & I WILL SHOW YOU LIES, LIES, LIES & OUTRIGHT BAD FOR AMERICA WHATEVER HE SAYS EVERYONE SHOULD PAY THE SAME RATE OF TAX WHY OH WHY SHOULD YOU I OR ANYONE ELSE PAY TO MURDER SOMEONE ELSE'S BABY (IF IT MOVES IT IS ALIVE) HE & HIS FAMILY ON OUR TAX MONEY TAKE ALL THESE FANCY VACATIONS - MANY OF US WOULD JUST LIKE A JOB (SOMETHING HE NEVER HAD) & FEED OUR FAMILIES & PAY THE MORTAGE TIM THOMAS IS NOW MY HERO TOO "O" IS SOO AGAINST AMERICA WHAT RIGHT DOES HE HAVE TO DISOBEY OR DESTROY THE CONSTITUTION?!!!!!! ALSO THE JUDGE IN GEORGIA WHO IS TRYING TO IMPEACH HIM - HE HAS NO CREDITABLE BIRTH CERTIFICATE SO IF HE IS NOT A CITIZEN HOW CAN HE BE PRESIDENT - MAYBE HE IS YOURS-BUT NOT MINE PLEASE TAKE TAKE HIM & HIS COHORTS & YOU TO ANYWHERE ELSE WHO WILL HVE YOU GOOD LUCK GOD BLESS AMERICA=A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How could the candidates get more serious? To start with they could stop attacking each other and start selling themselves. They could tout their records and if their records stink that would give us a notion who we wouldn't vote for. They could lay out their plans for getting us back on our feet. And the number one thing they could do to get my vote is to start doing what most of them have sworn to do at one point or another and that is to protect and defend the Constitution of these United States of America. So far as I can tell, the only one standing pat on the Constitution is Ron Paul. Love him or hate him, He is true to the Constitution. We still may have a chance to pull out of this downward spiral, but cannot, will not ever do it if we abandon our Constituion - our law. It has served us well for over 200 years. Back to our roots! Back to the basics!

let's see, why don't we talk about 'fast and furious', for one of the issues. then talk about the 'csars' that infect the present administration. oh, what else? perhaps the pipeline, and how iraq is looking more and more like we should have stayed a teensi bit longer....perhaps??? what about all the trips at taxpayer expense, when most of us hope to take one or two ;minitrips' into the next county or state. gosh should i go on???

They need to treat each other with respect. Each of these candidates have a history of accomplishments. Dragging each other through the dirt benefits noone. Focus on the problems we face and how our conservative ideas can solve them. This is their opportunity to teach the potential voters how reduced spending, smaller efficient governing and encouraging the private sector rather than attacking it can save the nation. It's too important for cat fights.

In my mind, a true patriot-statesman-candidate would articulate what he has done an will do verses what his opponent has done or will do as it pertains to the enforecement of constitutional values and/or American values. That leaves no room for name-calling, classifying or otherwise labeling his/her opponent. Let the elector determine for himself or herself how best to label others. I would love to see a "debate" in which there is actually debate happening. I recall reading the Lincoln-Douglass debates, as well as the debates I participated in as a requisite of High school academics. It is impractical to place eight or ten competitors in a room, but now that we are down to four legitimate candidates, give them a two hour televised opportunity to discuss among themselves various issues of the day. The attendant moderator would simply enforce rules of courtesy and fairness. He would not be allowed to pose questions or regulate the direction of the debate. Those issues would be determined before the debate begins. As an aside, it would be nice to require literacy for anyone who votes.

I personally am sick of the attack ads. Tell me what you are going to do to beat the Obamanite! Uncover the dirt on HIM! There's plenty of it to go around. Republican candidates should be spending their time telling us what makes them qualified to run against the Chicago Machine and to unseat it's Puppet-In-Chief. Who knows, they might even educate some of the poor sheep who put that man in the White House in the first place. Tearing each other down in such vilifying terms only provides ammunition for the real enemy to use against us in the general election.

If Bozo the Clown were running he'd get my vote.