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The Loneliness of the Non-mainstream Swimmer
· Wednesday, January 4, 2012
"I don't think Ron Paul represents the mainstream," says Mitt Romney. Newt Gingrich, another of the Texas congressman's opponents in the contest for the Republican presidential nomination, uses stronger terms, declaring, "Ron Paul's views are totally outside the mainstream of virtually every decent American."
As the results in Iowa suggest, the "mainstream" to which Romney and Gingrich refer is not defined by voters; it is the range of opinion deemed acceptable by leaders of the two major political parties. The mainstream has brought us a national debt the size of the national economy, a bloated yet overextended military that has strayed far from its mission of defending the country, and a lawless executive branch that usurps legislative powers and violates civil liberties.
If that is what the mainstream represents, it is no place for decent Americans who support smaller government. Romney and Gingrich may think they are discrediting Paul, but they are actually recommending him as the only candidate who breaks decisively with the status quo.
Although all of the Republican candidates pay lip service to fiscal restraint, Paul is the only one to propose actual spending cuts, as opposed to smaller increases. His plan would balance the federal budget by 2015. By contrast, Romney aims to "put us on a path to a balanced budget," while Gingrich vaguely promises to "balance the budget -- by growing the economy, controlling spending, implementing money saving reforms, and replacing destructive policies and regulatory agencies with new approaches."
The fiscal incontinence of the Republicans not named Paul is vividly illustrated by their attitude toward defense spending: More is always better, and any cuts, even if they are only reductions in projected increases, recklessly endanger national security. Romney assails "the Obama administration's irresponsible defense cuts," which would leave the Pentagon's budget bigger in a decade than it is today. The idea of going any further -- say, reducing military spending to the amount appropriated in 2007, when the country was hardly helpless against its adversaries -- is anathema to Romney and Gingrich.
In this atmosphere, Paul's insistence that "there's a difference between military spending and defense spending" is a breath of fresh air, and so are his warnings about the consequences of failing to make that distinction. Although his opponents try to isolate him by calling him an "isolationist," his views are more in tune with public opinion than theirs.
Paul supported military action against al-Qaida and its Taliban allies following the Sept. 11 attacks, but he opposed the occupation of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq and the air war against Libya, saying these operations were not grounded in national defense. Recent polls indicate that two-thirds of Americans agree with his judgment about Afghanistan and Iraq, while up to three-fifths questioned the intervention in Libya. Are all of these people "outside the mainstream" as well?
In addition to its role in military adventures, an elastic view of national security is the main justification for the steady expansion of presidential power, which has accelerated in response to Islamic terrorism. The New York Times recently asked the presidential candidates, "Which executive powers, if any, claimed and exercised by the Bush and/or Obama administrations were unconstitutional?" Paul cited unauthorized wars, warrantless wiretaps, torture, indefinite detention of terrorism suspects and the assassination of people the president unilaterally identifies as enemies. He said the excesses of George W. Bush's counterterrorism policies were "among the worst abuses of executive authority in the nation's history," adding that Bush's successor has been worse in some respects.
None of the other candidates could think of a single instance in which Bush or Obama exceeded his authority in the name of fighting terrorism or protecting national security. Romney's chief example of unconstitutional executive action was the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which is actually an example of unconstitutional legislative action. Gingrich said the problem is too little executive power, thanks to interference by the Supreme Court. If that is the mainstream, I want out.
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mmccrindle
I sure do like much of what Ron Paul espouses. But there certainly are too many negatives.
Why anyone would trust a deranged Mullah with a nuclear device is beyond insanity.
No, thanks, we shouldn't sell all the gold in Ft. Knox.
After nearly 30 years in Congress he has virtually no meaningful legislation under his belt, so this is the guy to lead our Country?
It sounds like he may have the same ultimate goal of the disentigration of state as Karl Marx, another fruitcake.
Posted January 4, 2012 at 8:09:58 AM
Mike Schuerger Sr.
In addtion, mmccrindle, I read that the other day Paul said he could not see himself as President. Then why does he keep running?
Perhaps he has had value raising some serious points for discussion, but I think we have had enoough of that already and need to get on with the process. Since he has declared -himself- as an "also-ran" once again, I think it is time for him to bow out.
Posted January 4, 2012 at 8:46:08 AM
wjmccrindle
Both parties go after "defense" spending, when it is the only real spending authorized by the Constitution for the defense of America. What they need to do is get rid of agencies that legislate around congress, with rules and regulations that are completely against business. How much energy has the dept of energy produced? How much smarter are the useful indoctrinated idiots produced by the NEA and dept of Education. With Incompetano, I feel we are less safe with the dept of Homeland Security. Salazar and the dept of Interior is keeping us dependant on foreign oil, blocking development of pipelines and exploration, in concert with the EPA. All these extra Constitutional agencies regulating and legislating beyond the law should be abolished, that would solve our spending problems, this country has no problem with revenue. Paul has said he would do this and he is correct, but I can't for the life of me see how anyone with a modicum of intellegence cant' see the threat of Islam to the rest of the world. That is crazy. Read Mark Steyne, "America Alone", and "After America". If you can't see the truth in these books, you are part of the problem. Islam, evil incarnate with the goal of world domination, must be outlawed in America. There are no moderate muslims, they are either Jihadis or Jihadi enablers.
Posted January 4, 2012 at 10:00:11 AM
d.w.hudson
When you look at legislation that Paul has proposed, you will realize that his proposals are constitutional, fiscally sound, and would result in decreasing the size and scope of the federal government. OF COURSE it had no support. How many other members of congress actually support the Constitution and obey their oath to it? If you want to lay the blame for that at Paul's feet you're just blaming the victim. And the disintegration of our nation is already well under way. Economically. Politically. In terms of individual liberty/freedom. 40,000 new laws were passed last year. And that doesn't count countless regulations. Politicians have used the patriotism and dedication of America’s soldiers to have our nation become the bully of the world playground. We have invaded other nations under false pretenses, we send armed drones into their airspace, we kill their soldiers and citizens, we overthrow their governments and install corrupt governments of our choosing and demand their resources for our national security, and occupy their lands under the guise of keeping them “democratic”. But only if they don’t have the means to truly defend themselves. That’s the nuclear lesson we have taught other nations.
Is Islam a danger to our nation? In my opinion absolutely. So are our own government employees when they act far beyond the authority granted to them by the people. And who gets to pick which religions are outlawed in our nation? And by what criteria? Seems I remember something about there being a 1st Amendment. Crisis and emergency are always the justification for the elimination of freedom. No thanks. I want none of it.
Posted January 4, 2012 at 11:15:39 AM
wjmccrindle
@d.w.judson
I would submit to you that Islam is NOT a religion. I have no problem with freedom to worship as you choose. A religion doesn't blow up folks in a town square. A religion doesn't behead folks on Television. A religion doesn't shoot rockets into a neighboring country because they don't like the way you dress, worship, eat, or just live. A religion doesn't condone lying to "infidels" and a quest for world domination. Islam is a political system, much like Marxist Socialism, and would happily cut off your christian head on TV. Wake up to the danger of this anti American political system that has idiots thinking they are a "religion". They are not, and as I think it was Clauswitz who said, know your enemy! We have every right to protect ourselves from our enemies, if that means killing them, then good! You isolationis Paul supporters would have the Islam nations USING nuclear weapons, first would be Israel, then Christian countries. I want none of that!
Posted January 4, 2012 at 12:04:38 PM
Richard Ryan
wjmccrindle as usual, makes more sense than about any other person I ever see post their comments. Ron Paul has a few good points, but a lot of his views, especially concerning the Arab states, make him a pure loonie. I, for one, am happy to see him come in a distant 4th in the Iowa voting. I don`t think however, that he will have the good sense to drop out.
Richard Ryan
Lamar,Missouri - Birthplace of Harry S Truman
Posted January 4, 2012 at 2:23:27 PM
GregInOregon
I'll come right to the point: Ron Paul is a kook.
I liked his proposals for the national economy. I like some of his positions on constitutional governance and limited government. But everything else screams "BAGGAGE!" Just another self-absorbed cranky old man who needs to retire, rather than pursuing some unattainable purist utopia, just as the liberals and progressives pursue theirs.
Ron Paul, if you try a 3rd party end-run, thanks for exposing your ego for what it really is -- right on par with Ego-bama-niac and the Donald, and thanks for handing the former an extension on his regime. Your ego will also have its part in bringing down our republic, what's left of it.
Posted January 4, 2012 at 3:45:15 PM
Luther
There is an answer to Ron Paul's founding father foreign policy that cowering fear urges some to reject: if you want the president to become king with unilateral warmaking powers, amend the Constitution to grant him/her that power. Until then, defend it, along with Paul!
Posted January 4, 2012 at 4:53:38 PM
Army Officer (Ret)
The last time the U.S. was in a declared war was 1945. We've had quite a few since then (I personally had some involvement in three of them).
If the American people want war, let Congress declare it, as is required by the Constitution. I'm okay with the idea that a president will not get us into a war without a Congressional declaration. That's how it's supposed to be!
If Ron Paul is elected and Congress wants a war, he will function as the C-in-C, as that would be his sworn duty. But if we want a president that makes war without Congress, Luther is 100% correct: let's just appoint someone king and be done with it.
Me? I'm not so keen on having a king - or a president who thinks he has the same level of authority as one.
Posted January 4, 2012 at 11:14:55 PM
Howard Last
Army Officer - Congress is also to blame. They passed the War Powers Act which allows the President to declare a temporary war. Sort of like a little bit pregnant. Anyone know which section of the Constitution that allows Congress to void the Constitution on a temporary basis?
Posted January 4, 2012 at 11:47:51 PM
Sapient
D.W.Hudson
Re: "When you look at legislation that Paul has proposed, you will realize that his proposals are constitutional, fiscally sound, and would result in decreasing the size and scope of the federal government. OF COURSE it had no support."
Look. I appreciate your enthusiasm. Really I do. But, enthusiasm is no substitute for facts. Lets take a look at some facts.
If you want to see someone wiggle and squirm, ask Ron Paul why, when all the GOP had called a moratorium on earmarks, he made over $157 million in earmark requests for FY 2011, and was only one of four House Republicans to request any earmarks at all.
And you think Clinton and Obama can twist and turn, say "That depends on what your definition of 'is' is."
Now remember, that was AFTER the American people had spoke loud and clear NO MORE EARMARKS! Did Mr Constitution, Mr. Tax Payer's Best Friend listen? Nada!
You are right...he stands pretty much alone up there...on the "Not listen to the People" side of things.
My golly, and how Ron complained about earmarks, but the record shows that in 2010, he asked for another $398 million in earmark requests for FY 2010, again one of the leading Republican House members.
So, he's the only true fiscal guy up there huh?
Now, I want to ask YOU: do you not know about that kind of stuff, or just ignore it?
There is NOTHING more constitutional than a representative representing the interests of his district. But, with Ron, if you ask people who lived in Ron Paul's district, you'll find out he would have been gone years ago for a real conservative, except for outside money, which equates to the fact he wasn't representing his district like he swore to do.
Not by a long shot.
God bless
Wizard of Oz: "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."
Posted January 7, 2012 at 1:37:18 PM
Sapient
Richard
How about these from Ron Paul:
Ron Paul: “You wanna get rid of drug crime in this country? Fine, let’s just get rid of all the drug laws.”
Ron Paul, The Revolution Manifesto: “Governments, by their nature, notoriously compete with liberty—even when the stated purpose for establishing a particular government is to protect liberty…The restraints place on our government by the Founders did not work.
Ron Paul, End the Fed: "In reality, the Constitution itself is incapable of achieving what we would like in limiting government power, no matter how well written."
Ron Paul, 1993 newsletter: "Whether [the 1993 World Trade Center bombing] was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little."
Interviewer: "In the last interview we did with a Libertarian candidate for President, he said you that would abolish the CIA, the FBI, and the IRS. Do you hold those same positions?"
Ron Paul: "Yes, I do -- because you know, most of our history, we didn't have those institutions."
Fact is, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Bet there are a lot of very weird people and groups out there you might agree with on a point or two, until you know who said it and their philosophical context for saying it, and then would shun like the plague.
BTW: while you are at it, Google Ron Paul and the word voluntarist or voluntaryist. See what you find.
God bless
Posted January 7, 2012 at 3:06:52 PM
Sapient
Luther
re: "There is an answer to Ron Paul's founding father foreign policy..."
Just so I know, what exactly was that "foreign father foreign policy" anyway? Was it something they said, or a tid bit you got from Ron Paul.
For example, did he explain to you why Jefferson got involved in the First War of the Barbary Pirates, went inland, captured cities, etc, all with a declaration of war?
BECAUSE HOSTILITIES ALREADY EXISTED BETWEEN US AND THE PIRATES, THE PIRATES INITIATED THEM, AND NO DECLARATION WAS REQUIRED.
What do you think James Madison, Chief Architect of the Constitution meant when he said:
"It is a principle incorporated into the settled policy of America, that as peace is better than war, war is better than tribute." --James Madison, letter to the Dey of Algiers, 1816.
What do you think President George Washington meant, about those same pirates who were raiding our ships, and that we were paying tribute to, meant when he said:
"Would to Heaven we had a navy to reform those enemies to mankind, or crush them into non-existence."
Now, that is what they actually said and what they actually did.
They took being a Father to our nation very seriously. The Constitution is not a suicide pact because it assumes reasonable people.
You do not have to wait for someone to shoot and miss before you can act in self defense....all that is required to justify it is "reasonable belief."
How do you think Washington and the others would handle EMP threats that could send our nation to the stone age, or WMD's?
Foreign threats are just as much a threat to our true liberties as tyranny and anarchy. The Founders were concerned about all three.
I look forward to your answer.
God bless
"Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them." Thomas Jefferson.
Posted January 7, 2012 at 9:18:28 PM