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The Mosque Controversy
· Tuesday, August 31, 2010
The proposed mosque near where the World Trade Center was attacked and destroyed, along with thousands of American lives, would be a 15-story middle finger to America.
It takes a high IQ to evade the obvious, so it is not surprising that the intelligentsia are out in force, decrying those who criticize this calculated insult.
What may surprise some people is that the American taxpayer is currently financing a trip to the Middle East by the imam who is pushing this project, so that he can raise the money to build it. The State Department is subsidizing his travel.
The big talking point is that this is an issue about "religious freedom" and that Muslims have a "right" to build a mosque where they choose. But those who oppose this project are not claiming that there is no legal right to build a mosque near the site of the World Trade Center.
If anybody did, it would be a matter for the courts to decide -- and they would undoubtedly say that it is not illegal to build a mosque near the site of the World Trade Center attack.
The intelligentsia and others who are wrapping themselves in the Constitution are fighting a phony war against a straw man. Why create a false issue, except to evade the real issue?
Our betters are telling us that we need to be more "tolerant" and more "sensitive" to the feelings of Muslims. But if we are supposed to be sensitive to Muslims, why are Muslims not supposed to be sensitive to the feelings of millions of Americans, for whom 9/11 was the biggest national trauma since Pearl Harbor?
It would not be illegal for Japanese Americans to build a massive shinto shrine next to Pearl Harbor. But, in all these years, they have never sought to do it.
When Catholic authorities in Poland were planning to build an institution for nuns, years ago, and someone pointed out that it would be near the site of a concentration camp that carried out genocide, the Pope intervened to stop it.
He didn't say that the Catholic Church had a legal right to build there, as it undoubtedly did. Instead, he respected the painful feelings of other people. And he certainly did not denounce those who called attention to the concentration camp.
There is no question that Muslims have a right to build a mosque where they chose to. The real question is why they chose that particular location, in a country that covers more than 3 million square miles.
If we all did everything that we have a legal right to do, we could not even survive as individuals, much less as a society. So the question is whether those who are planning a Ground Zero mosque want to be part of American society or just to see how much they can get away with in American society?
Can anyone in his right mind believe that this was intended to show solidarity with Americans, rather than solidarity with those who attacked America? Does anyone imagine that the Middle East nations, including Iran, from whom financial contributions will be solicited, want to promote reconciliation between Americans and Muslims?
That the President of the United States has joined the chorus of those calling the Ground Zero mosque a religious freedom issue tells us a lot about the moral dry rot that is undermining this country from within.
In this, as in other things, Barack Obama is not so much the cause of our decline but the culmination of it. He had many predecessors and many contemporaries who represent the same mindset and the same malaise.
There are people for whom moral preening has become a way of life. They are out in force denouncing critics of the Ground Zero mosque.
There are others for whom a citizen of the world affectation puts them one-up on those of us who are grateful to be Americans, and to enjoy a freedom that is all too rare in other countries around the world, even at this late date in human history.
They think the United States is somehow on trial, and needs to prove itself to others by bending over backwards. But bending over backwards does not win friends. It loses respect, including self-respect.
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Bruce
In nation after nation muslims have worked to use the law against the populations to gain a working majority - in the governments, society, and in the streets. Where they have become a majority, they have imposed sharia law. The conclusion of their efforts is the creation of hell-holes of tyranny and total dictatorship - one ruler, one religion, one law. Only fools believe this argument is about religious freedom. Only total fools would argue that "sensitivities" should decide whether this temple of doom gets built. If it does, consider America conquered.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 6:42:26 AM
g Dub
. . . and perhaps most of the Fools are Progressives.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 7:47:54 AM
kev
I'm stating the obvious (at least to those who still allow themselves an honest thought) here, but this has nothing in the least to do with religious freedom. Nor is racism involved, either literally or the type invented by the left. No one has interferred with the building or praying at any other mosques in New York City or anywhere else in tis country. Muslims could take a leasson from us, however, in religious tolerance. I would have thought the libs could have come up with a better argument for this mosque than to name-call those who disagree. But then, that's what libs do, and there really is no good argument for the buiding of this mosque in that particular location. As intelligent as left wingers and the media (sorry, repeating myself) hold themselves to be, I wonder that none among them ever ask themselves, "If our position is so right, so noble, why must we always resort to lying in order to defend it?"
Posted August 31, 2010 at 7:52:02 AM
Talman
Islam is not about sensitivities, and acceptance of foreign cultures. It is about conquest and world domination. They will invade, destroy all infrastructure, kill, subjugate and tax remnants. Think back to the celebrations you saw in Middle East countries after 9-11. The Mosque if built as currently planned will only be seen as Islam's conquest over America and its non-believers and it will strengthen 1.5 billion Muslim's belief in the greatness of Islam. Building this Mosque may very well incite and unleash the world's darkest period.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 9:55:28 AM
Bruce R Pierce
This is another question of the obvious, why is it no one seems to be talking about the Christian Church that was destroyed by the Twin Towers when they fell. If there is to be a true healing and moving forward the Buildings that existed before the Towers fell should be a priorty reconstruction effort.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 10:32:31 AM
Joan A
How many Christian churches are built near Mecca or anywhere near city centers in any Muslim country?
Posted August 31, 2010 at 11:37:28 AM
Joel
Faith in the true God requires that we love our neighbor as ourself. Love of neighbor demands that we work with each other and not against each other. This is one of the "proofs" that many of these Muslims are not being led by the true God. Granted, not all Muslims are bad but some are and they have the power. Out of love and respect for America and her people, the individuals responsible for the mosque should stop. The fact that they don't begs the question, "Who is leading them?" A loving God? No. Probably their own pride and arrogance.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 11:59:46 AM
Chief Harpoonist
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. This entire situation indicates that muslims obviously believe America is weak- willed and therefore will allow anything including this monumental show of absolute disrespect for our traditions, our accomplishments and most importantly our Liberty and Freedom. They are blindly misinformed.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 12:22:45 PM
Sandy
Dear Mr. Sowell,
Thank you for your continued contribution to conservative thought. I fervently wish that you had been elected instead of Barack Obama; you would have left a legacy that would make all Americans proud. ( Except , perhaps, for the whining lib-brats, but that's okay. )
Please keep up the great work and know this: if I ever see your name on a ballot for POTUS you will get my vote!
Most sincerely,
Sandy
Posted August 31, 2010 at 12:54:22 PM
Adan
Bruce Pierce - the muslims building their mosque - as well as Bloomberg and Obama - have given you the only answer you're going to get.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 1:26:42 PM
Caseace
Joan A., Forget 'near' city centers. There are ZERO Churches in the entire countries of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria and Iran, as well as others in the Middle East. Tolerence and understanding is a liberal one way street.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 1:32:33 PM
JAC
Mr. Sowell's description of the mosque as a "15-story middle finger to America" is the best I've heard on this subject. However, it's not surprising that those on the left, including Obozo and his minions, are demonizing the majority of Americans that oppose the construction. They've been giving America the middle finger since well before the 2008 election. When people like Katy Couric are on television "news" programs self-righteously castigating those with legitimate concerns, they might as well go ahead and hold up their middle fingers on national T.V., because that's what they are doing in essence anyway.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 1:34:21 PM
mugwumps
Will you airheads stop preaching religious freedom? There is none in this country. And if there was, it wouldn't mean moslems have a right to build anything they want anywhere they want anymore than anyone else. We have laws that other religions have to obey. I don't know, but I got the idea from something I read, that the area was zoned and the middle finger was against the law. Some of you know it alls need to look it up before you start preaching crap. Get real.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 1:56:09 PM
Snidely
With the proposed gay bar, adjacent to the mosque entry, they might just name the bar "Mosqueer," and, bending over for hours at a time, praying, might be construed as seeking heaven... from the Sodom-mights...whatever it takes to make these dominators sorry they ever heard of the USA.... while they, themselves just might be conqueered....
Posted August 31, 2010 at 2:10:27 PM
jm
well put Thomas and all the commenters. For a modern view of what Islam represents I encourage all to read Son Of Hamas, an account of Mosab, the eldest son of of one of the 7 founders of Hamas who converted to Christianity and as recent as 2-3 months ago was to be deported by Homeland security for his ties to Hamas (as a mole for Shin Bet he saved hundreds, Israelis and Palestinians alike), until FOX broketh story inan interview with him and his Shin Bet agent handler the day before and miracle of miracles the Dept of Homeland security granted him assylum the following day at his hearing based on recent developments (ie FOX story) and his certain death upon return to his home country was averted. Nive investigative work Homeland, err FOX news. Another example of the gang who could not shoot straight (FEds under current admin). Most recently, in addition to the funding of Imam Raufs trip to raise $$ for the mosque at ground zero the State Dept web site published the text of Bloomberg speeach in favor o fthe Mosque aas well as fun facts about Islam and Mosques inthe US (which city has the largest Mosque inthe US- Detroit of course). Seems like what is up is down and insside is outside. The left is killing us and the time to rise is now.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 3:39:09 PM
jm
take a breath and clear your mind and re-present your thoughts intelligibly.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 3:42:46 PM
John Bostick
Muslims are a people without the benefit of the one and only God that has forgiven the human race for being imperfect. They are stuck in their ritualistic practices of denial with the inability to escape their own hypocritical torment. When they participate in the stoning of their own women for fornication or bomb their neighbors for being infidels they must do it with an awareness of their own imperfection and or sins. This is the reason it is so easy for them to martyr themselves for deep inside they realize they deserve the same death they sentence anyone who is faulty with. To be Muslim truly is to be without God they are stuck with the human condition and all its defects being the ultimate authority and final judge. May God have mercy on their souls.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 4:41:49 PM
Dawson
Mr. Sowell, thank you for all of your years of clear, brilliant thinking. Looking at Dearborn, Michigan, one can see a large muslim population. Why MI? A northern, cold state? In the grips of recession and a loss of auto jobs, they are using that area as a rallying point to begin a larger presence. To get back to the mosque in NY, why such a huge building? So many floors for what purpose? Why come to the US? Religious freedom/tolerance is certainly not an observation/consideration of Islam. Wake up America!!
Posted August 31, 2010 at 5:19:45 PM
John Kraus
I am a 88 year old veteran of WWII and I am in 48 year old condition. I was a combat infantryman in five campaigns in the ETO and I think that there is
going to be one hell of a big war coming our way if
things don't change pretty damn soon. I intend to do
whatever is required to keep our country free and I am not afraid of dying for it. There is much more greed in our Congress than brains and leadership.
The White House is zero in everything and will all end up as ragheads if push comes to shove. Praise the Lord and pass the ammo.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 5:23:38 PM
mick
Caseace:
share the sentiment, but factually incorrect. there are many churches in syria. actually quite a large christian population.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 5:28:02 PM
Betsy
This mosque/command center, not only celebrates the successful 9-11 attack, it celebrates the chosen, groomed ,and instructed for years,--the first Islamic president in the United States of America. This will cause such changes--as far as the east is from the west. Did God say this to ring a bell for us at this very occasion? I don't think God approves of this change. His will will be done.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:14:11 PM
Atticus Cage
Well, Mr. Sowell, I wasn't available to give your article a fairer read today because after seeing C-SPAN's coverage of a segment they called "Image Of Muslims In U.S." I realized based on their panel of experts that you, and I, are merely prosaic, xenophobic extremists. And, one more thing: these very erudite sounding, if glazed over, pundits from Islam's upper echelons assured viewers that you and I, and our wild eyed ilk, are ALSO mad as hell at Islams hubris because there is a black POTUS!
Talk about a "Conflict Of Visions!"
Oh, almost forgot, a well dressed panelist named James Zogby asserted on the same program that were economic times not so rough right now in the U.S. folks like you and I would have even less cause for roiling that callow and baseless "hatred" which is our Islamophobia.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 8:56:24 PM
enemaofthestatistquo
I wayched a little CSPAN today & found out that there is - get this - a Congressional Muslim Staff Association. Yep! You know as they say "we have to pass the law to know what's in it" "we hire professionals for that" "you don't expect me to read an entire bill of [enter number her] pages" . Can YOU say S-H-A-R-I-A?
Posted August 31, 2010 at 9:20:36 PM
Duke of Earl
Hopefully we have the same argument everytime a Catholic church is built near a school. It would not be the "right" thing to do even though it would technically be legal. This is CLEARLY a religious freedom issue.
Posted August 31, 2010 at 11:32:43 PM
F. (John Wayne) Phillips
Go ahead. Just (bug) the hell out of the place. I'm just saying!!! The best way to get to know your enemy is to sleep with them. Draw them in and snuff them out. You Know! Like turkey hunting with a bow.
Posted September 1, 2010 at 12:26:31 AM
Jack
As we read our bible we take what applys for our beleifs here a little, there a little so we all have faith in the almighty, but in the muslem book the first writting has been superseeded by the latter and only the latter applies. if you read it you will know it is all muslems sacred duty to kill all non muslems so their god can purge the world of all infidels and leave the muslems standing all alone in their shiera law that alows them to beat or kill their wives at will and turn against and kill their own kids if they don't practice the shiera law to the tee. There is nothing in that book that promotes peace in any way other than the complete anilation of all infidels. (thats any one who does not practice the shiera law). If you want an eyefull read it. it will scare the hell right out of you. Middle finger to the world, not just to you yanks is what that building will be.
Posted September 1, 2010 at 4:25:13 AM
TJ Marta
Mr. Sowell,
You're simply one of my favorite reads all the time!
I wish that you would be elected or appointed to some official position of leadership.
God bless you.
Posted September 1, 2010 at 6:19:06 AM
Texan
Thank you Mr. Sowell, for calling this mosque what it really is;
"A calculated insult" and "a fifteen story middle finger".
Posted September 1, 2010 at 10:39:17 AM
Richard
It is a middle finger, with a club in the other hand poised to hit us over the head. The ONLY question left: what are we the people going to do about this?
Posted September 1, 2010 at 12:19:39 PM
Len Grummell
In agreement with prior post from WW2 vet. I also believe that the current idiots and fools will not be able to protect us at all. Our military is currently stretched beyond what is safe and mandatory for our safety. If we are not able to turn this around in Nov,we may have to take up our guns to finish the job. "DEATH TO TYRANTS"
Posted September 1, 2010 at 12:37:25 PM
buddy
Lets match good ol american unionism & bureaucracy against their claim for religous freedom. My impression of nyc is union workers will be required. These will be the friends, relatives & neighbors of the victims of 9/11. The work will need to be permitted, planned, approved,,yatayata by the bureaucracies of nyc, county, state, etc. I dont think $100m will turn a spade of dirt, & whatever product they do wind up with some more hundreds of millions down the road should & probably will be a dead chicken around their neck.
Posted September 1, 2010 at 12:57:52 PM
karl anglin
The genius of you Americans is that
you never make clear-cut stupid moves,
only complicated stupid moves which
make the rest of us wonder at the
possibility that we might be.
----Gamal Abdel Nasser (1918-1970)
Posted September 1, 2010 at 1:07:21 PM
eric hunter
In his article, Mr. Sowell refers to the State Dept's paying for the Inmam's trip to the Middle East for funding. Does anyone know where to find back up articles or facts on this. An aquaintence of mine who is Muslim is in serious disbelief (the article rocked him to the core) and I'd like to show him where this nugget was found.
Thanks.
Posted September 1, 2010 at 1:33:13 PM
eric hunter
In his article, Mr. Sowell refers to the State Dept's paying for the Inmam's trip to the Middle East for funding. Does anyone know where to find back up articles or facts on this. An aquaintence of mine who is Muslim is in serious disbelief (the article rocked him to the core) and I'd like to show him where this nugget was found.
Thanks.
Posted September 1, 2010 at 3:58:29 PM
Filmore
The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." So, a US president orders Dept of State to pay for a trip abroad for a muslim to promote the building of a mosque in America. Obviously obozo paying for this trip isn't respecting islam as a religion. That would be anti-constitutional. Obozo is blatantly telling us islam is not a religion. Until, that is, it comes to the actual constructing of the building. Then it is time for religious freedom to ring. When are we getting rid of this lying sack of s---?
Posted September 1, 2010 at 4:48:22 PM
dexter massoletti, sr.
Eric::
Aug 10, 2010 State Dept. Sending Ground Zero Mosque Imam on Middle East ---
"Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the man spearheading the Ground Zero Mosque initiative, is about to take a month-long trip through the Middle East sponsored..." [and organized] "... by the U.S. government...."
this from The Weekly Standard website.
Also State Department Spokesman P.J. Crowley had said “We've done this many, many times, with many leading figures… over the past few years.”
This shows more than blind complicity, no less than the nearly one billion dollars of taxpayers' money the State Dept has sent to Hamas with the 'idea' that it will be used for humanitarian purposes -- perhaps we should re-instate crucifixion as a proper response to Shariah Law.
Have a nice day.
Posted September 1, 2010 at 5:01:55 PM
Thomas E. Davis, Col, USA (ret)
Thank God for Dr. Sowell; I really admire him but the RNC and the NBRC seem to ignore him, Why? Now my case against the Mosque:
A QUESTION AND AN ANSWER
The question is straightforward and painfully simple. Does Islam honestly qualify as a ‘religion’? Other than Islam, which touts Allah as their supreme deity, no other ‘religion’ boasts a deity commanding his subjects to murder in his name, to enslave their women, to practice pedophilia and polygamy, to face in so-called prayers, the birthplace of their one false suspect prophet, to offer alms giving as their only charitable work, to practice deception (taqiyya) and outright lying as a defense of their beliefs. To murder their own children for any perceived slur the child may have brought upon the family honor.
The list goes on ad nauseam. The answer too is straightforward and painfully simple; No! Islam does not qualify as a religion! It is more a cult similar to but far larger than those of James Jones and of David Koresh who was mercilessly ‘crushed’ by Janet Reno and the Clinton Administration. Therefore, I would differ with those, including Sarah Palin who noted that the ‘Muslims have the right to build the ‘Ground Zero’ Mosque but should they do so?’
The practice of Islam is too far outside the pale of a beneficent, humanitarian and loving religion. It is quite obvious that there is an ulterior motive couched in the phrase, “The Cordoba Initiative” that drives Islam in this instance. Quoting Tony Vega,NY Political Buzz Examiner
“From the rubble of the WTC, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf, president of the Cordoba Initiative, called for Islamic dawa and sharia law on American soil, usurping the American Constitution.
Some that pride themselves as Patriots believe it is their constitutional duty to protect that Imam’s “right” to build his Initiative in the shadows of Ground Zero.
The framers did not intend the Constitution to be a suicide pact, nor did the framers desire that the Constitution be used by our enemies or supporters of the same to tear us asunder, or as a tool to promote useful idiots.
Supporters of dawa, jihad and sharia law and the furtherance of the same wrap themselves in a cloak of religious freedom and we say, “Welcome to America.” How easy are we?” Read Tony’s entire piece at”http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-new-york/the-cordoba-initiative-mosque-near-ground-zero. Therefore, it is my unequivocal, Hell No! in answer to: Should Muslims be allowed to desecrate Ground Zero?
One final note, Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf has made use of several useful idiots to foster his nefarious scheme, including Mayor Michael Bloomberg who is doing a major disservice not only to New York City and the families of the 9/11 victims but to the Worldwide Jewish community as well.
Dr. Thomas E. Davis, Colonel, USA (ret)
326 F Nantucket Lane
Monroe Twp. New Jersey, 08831-1704
Posted September 1, 2010 at 11:04:03 PM
Jean Lack
Icannot help but wonder if Obamamamma or PoseyPelosi even knew anyone killed in the 9/11 attack ? I wonder if they actually saw, with their own eyes, the aftermath of that attack? America was founded on religious freedom. AMERICANS have religious freedom. If some foreigner or American born foreigner, wants religion that don't set well with this great country, do like OUR anscestors did: Go find your own country.
Posted September 2, 2010 at 10:48:54 AM
Scott
There is an old fable of Arabia concerning the camel; once it gets its nose into the tent...
"Our betters," preach tolerance and sensitivity, but demand preference and submission to their will. In this, they exactly mirror the goals of Sharia.
Posted September 4, 2010 at 1:35:01 PM