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Secularism and the Mosque Flap
· Tuesday, August 24, 2010
Let's say the mosque (you know what mosque) gets built, as it certainly might, public opinion notwithstanding. What's the next theological concession America's Christian churches get to make in the name of brotherhood, sisterhood, pluralism, world peace and amity, the reconstruction of America's image, etc., etc.?
First it's one thing, then another: public observances of religious holidays, memorial crosses on public lands, atheist authors on the attack, affronts galore to Christian morality as understood for even longer than Richard Dawkins has been on the scene. Prayer in schools? Lost that battle long ago, toward the end of a different age for American Christianity, when the general assumption was that a brief word to the Almighty, even spoken in public places, wasn't a bad idea.
The Christian consensus that supposedly dominated American life half a century ago hasn't dominated anything for years. Only the gay marriage foofaraw, which centers on how to define marriage -- the church's way or The New York Times' -- affords secular pundits a good workout these days. Oh -- and priestly sexual abuse, which some media accounts could lead you to see as the modern church's primary activity.
On the left, the mosque proposal gets two thumbs way up -- in Siskel/Ebert parlance -- because at least one of those thumbs can be seen as gouging the "religious right." The other thumb points us to the wonderful world of religious indifference. Yawn. Mosque, church, synagogue, who cares? Just the same old story told different ways, with different legends, none mattering more than another.
The general comparability of all religions is the narrative that informs support for the New York City mosque -- as, to tell the truth, it informs support for the mosques now springing up through once-Christian Europe. The necessity of throwing back that narrative isn't the only reason most Americans reject the idea of admitting Islamic symbols and practice to the neighborhood of the 9/11 outrage. It's a reason that works, even so.
A Muslim need not believe in the truth of Christianity, but secular commitment to "diversity" -- a commitment certain oddball bishops and theologians appear to support -- undermines the American understanding of national identity. You can lay aside or leave open special "truth" claims if you like. Where on earth do claims to liberty under law arise if not from the heavily plowed ground of Christian belief concerning man -- and, as we would add nowadays, woman -- as the special creation of God, worthy of protection against tyranny, oppression and other awful incidents of existence? No God -- no Christian God at any event -- no liberty, no freedom, no personhood, is the rule of thumb.
Islam's claim to partake of "Abrahamic faith" falls short of the Christian understanding in all its fullness. Were it otherwise, wouldn't one expect to see robust democratic republics throughout the Islamic world, full of Barney Franks and Nancy Pelosis (with maybe the random Mitch McConnell) instead of the despotisms that squash and mismanage their peoples? Where are they?
Where, for that matter, does Islamic tolerance manifest itself in the glorious name of Diversity? How about letting the Southern Baptists plant a megachurch in Mecca, with the strains of "Amazing Grace" breaking forth across the sands? Think they'd get away with it? Think the Saudis would accord Christianity the same respect and protection they demand for their own faith? Think again.
The Islamic center proposal should stand or fall on its own merits, not on the secularist proposition that one religious faith's as good as another -- to the extent even one of them amounts to a hill of beans. Possibly the real basis of Christian-Islamic communion lies not in politics, but rather in recognition that any who answer the call of faith are disrespected guests in hard-nosed societies dedicated to short-term means over long-term ends.
The mosque flap could prove transitory in that respect: An occasion for thinking about religious truth and asking the genuinely hard questions: What are we all here for? And why?
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Stephen
Why would we believe President Hussein is a muslim? Just because he celebrates muslim holidays officially in our white house, supports and even demands "rights" for muslims in America, supports toothless sanctions against Iran, aids and abets muslim terrorists against Israel, and leaves Israel hanging out to defend itself against all comers? What difference does it make what religion he lies about professing, since that too is part of his family's muslim culture? We judge our enemies by their acts.
Posted August 24, 2010 at 10:23:34 AM
Jacob
As an American working in Saudi Arabia for the past several years, I've seen how Muslim society works firsthand. There are no churches other than furtive underground fellowship groups. Christianity as a notional lifestyle is admired by many Muslims, but it is not safe to evangelize a Muslim in Saudi Arabia, not safe for the evangelist, and not safe for the Muslim. Evangelizing Muslims is the fastest way to get an exit-only visa. Conversion to Christianity is a capital offense. Muslims often note that my beliefs and theirs share many common elements, but then they always insist that I should become a Muslim, never that they might consider becoming a Christian. I have said that I will not deny Christ and his cross or take up the burden of living under their law, but that is exactly what Muslims expect non-Muslims to do. And it's worth noting that they expect this of Everyone, not only Christians. For Muslims, tolerance of Islam by non-Muslims is not enough. Americans who suppose that their antipathy toward religion in general is somehow virtuous will be shocked and dismayed if they ever fall subject to Sharia.
Posted August 24, 2010 at 12:26:35 PM
Stephen
While our Constitution prohibits Congress from making any "law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"; we note with disdain and contempt the obamanation's direction to allow the State Department to use TAXPAYER MONEY to fund a trip by a muslim imam to the middle east to promote the establishment of a muslim mosque at Ground Zero. The obamanation swore an oath to God to uphold and defend our Constitution. We Americans want to see that oath carried out - by both parties.
Posted August 24, 2010 at 12:39:45 PM
Marcus
One of the many baffling things about all this discussion about islam is...where are the feminists and gay groups???? Considering islam's views on those groups one would think they would be pounding their chests and beating their drums for PR war against these arabic/muslim chauvinists and bigots!!
Posted August 24, 2010 at 1:14:32 PM
Joel
We need to fight tooth and nail this kind of stuff but always with love. Remember, it is our Lord that said to turn the other cheek but also remember that it was he who drove the money changers out of the temple. We need to fight but do it lovingly.
Between the secular world and fanatical Islam, Christians are going to experience persecution and some may even die in the future in this country.
Remember to keep your faith because nothing is more important. It is better to die than lose that.
Posted August 24, 2010 at 1:17:37 PM
Brian
Marcus, the gay and feminist groups think Muslims are on their side, because they are all equally "persecuted and oppressed by white, anglo-saxon protestant males." Boy, are they in for a rude awakening.
Posted August 24, 2010 at 6:18:04 PM
Arnold
I have seen people in this country convicted of murder on less circumstantial evidence than what we have that indicates Obama is a closet Muslim. Google the term "taqiyya".
Posted August 25, 2010 at 11:40:45 AM
karl anglin
I wonder how many people know
that a fully veiled Muslim woman
works at the Obama White House?
Posted August 25, 2010 at 1:08:38 PM
dean
Yes, the quicker we move on from religion the better. Everyone on this earth deserves a little more liberty and less constraints from the theistic product.
Posted August 25, 2010 at 9:38:40 PM