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Endowed by Our Creator
· Thursday, May 6, 2010
"To the distinguished Character of Patriot, it should be our highest Glory to add the more distinguished Character of Christian. The signal Instances of providential Goodness which we have experienced and which have now almost crowned our labours with complete Success, demand from us in a peculiar manner the warmest returns of Gratitude and Piety to the Supreme Author of all Good." --George Washington

Today is National Prayer Day.
In 1775, on the eve of Revolution, the First Continental Congress called for "a day of publick humiliation, fasting, and prayer."
Apparently, our Founders saw a national day of prayer as a fitting observance, not unlike the establishment of Thanksgiving, of which George Washington wrote in 1777, "Being the day set apart by the Honorable Congress for public Thanksgiving and Praise; and duty calling us devoutly to express our grateful acknowledgements to God for the manifold blessings he has granted us, the General ... earnestly exhorts, all officers and soldiers, whose absence is not indispensably necessary, to attend with reverence the solemnities of the day."
Other Founders continued the tradition.
John Adams declared May 9, 1798, as "a day of solemn humiliation, fasting, and prayer ... that our country may be protected from all the dangers which threaten it."
James Madison followed this tradition, but wrote, "I was always careful to make the Proclamations absolutely indiscriminate, and merely recommendatory; or rather mere designations of a day, on which all who thought proper might unite in consecrating it to religious purposes, according to their own faith & forms. In this sense, I presume you reserve to the Govt. a right to appoint particular days for religious worship throughout the State, without any penal sanction enforcing the worship."
Our Founders were greatly and rightly suspect of any encroachment by government upon religious freedom, and codified that proscription in Amendment I of our Bill of Rights: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
In other words, Congress may not mandate that a particular religion be nationalized, and others be prohibited.
Our Founders were not radical secularists. Far from it. One need only examine their many writings on the subject as evidence. But, rightly, they didn't want the United States to be wedded with a particular church, as was the case with England and the Anglican Church.
Thomas Jefferson, a vigilant though skeptical Anglican, made clear this prohibition in his obscure but maliciously misconstrued 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptist Association. Far from calling for the coercive stripping of all religious influences from public life, Jefferson merely assured his Baptist constituents in Connecticut that their denominational practices were safe because our Constitution provided a "wall of separation" between church and state, which would prohibit the national government from recognizing Anglicanism as the national religion. (Notably, two days after writing that letter, Jefferson attended religious services in the House of Representatives.)
But as Madison wrote, our Constitution, the one he penned, does not bar the government from designating "particular days for religious worship throughout the State."
However, in the latter half of the 20th century, judicial activists (the "despotic branch") as Jefferson called them) have "interpreted" the First Amendment to suit their political agendas, placing evermore severe constraints upon the free exercise of religion while wholly misrepresenting the aforementioned "Wall of Separation" in a concerted effort to expel religious practice from any and all public forums.
They have done so by falsely putting forth a "living constitution," a revisionist document which has little resemblance to the authentic Constitution that once was our Republic's standard for Rule of Law.
As noted by former Chief Justice William Rehnquist, "The wall of separation between church and state is a metaphor based upon bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned. ... The greatest injury of the 'wall' notion is its mischievous diversion of judges from the actual intention of the drafters of the Bill of Rights."
The intended consequence of this artificial barrier between church and state is to remove the unmistakable influence of our Creator from all public forums, particularly government education institutions, and thus, over time, to disabuse belief in a sovereign God and the notion of natural rights. This erosion of knowledge about the origin of our rights, the very foundation of our country and basis of our Constitution, has dire implications for the future of our Essential Liberty.
In 1952, Congress established the National Day of Prayer as an annual event by a joint resolution, signed into law by President Harry Truman. The NDP designation (36 U.S.C. § 119) calls for the nation "to turn to God in prayer and meditation."
Naturally, the Despotic Branch is challenging that resolution, asserting that religion and politics don't mix.
On April 15, 2010, U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb (a 1979 Jimmy Carter nominee) ruled that the statute establishing the National Day of Prayer was unconstitutional, as it is "an inherently religious exercise that serves no secular function."
That ruling, of course, has no basis in our Constitution, but merely among those who have contorted its true meaning into a grotesque remnant of its original brilliance.
Perhaps Ms. Crabb, and all other jurists who are attempting to amend our Constitution by judicial diktat in full disregard for the constitutional prescription for amendment in Article 5, should pause and consider the faith of our Founders.
Perhaps they should look into the depth of faith that motivated the actions of Patriot Founders John Hancock, Roger Sherman, John Dickinson, Hugh Williamson, Benjamin Rush, Samuel Huntington, John Adams, William Williams, Robert Treat Paine, Rufus King, William Livingston, James Wilson, George Mason and Patrick Henry.
Here are but a few examples of how our Founders expressed their faith when in positions of authority.
Hancock called on his home state of Massachusetts to pray, "that universal happiness may be established in the world [and] that all may bow to the scepter of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the whole earth be filled with His glory."
According to John Adams: "The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God. ... The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity and humanity. ... Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited. ... What a Eutopia -- what a Paradise would this region be!"
Henry wrote, "The Bible ... is a book worth more than all the other books that were ever printed. ... The great pillars of all government and of social life [are] virtue, morality, and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone, that renders us invincible."
Samuel Adams called on Massachusetts to pray that, "we may with one heart and voice humbly implore His gracious and free pardon through Jesus Christ, supplicating His Divine aid ... [and] above all to cause the religion of Jesus Christ, in its true spirit, to spread far and wide till the whole earth shall be filled with His glory."
Even those who were cautious about the public expressions of religion left evidence of their views on Christianity.
Jefferson wrote, "I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others. ... I am a real Christian -- that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
Benjamin Franklin wrote, "As to Jesus of Nazareth ... I think the system of morals and His religion as He left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see."
Beyond these many writings -- as if further proof were needed -- our Founders unequivocally enumerated the natural rights of all men in our Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness..." These are natural rights -- gifts from God, not government.
Notably, the conviction that our rights are innately bestowed by "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God," is enumerated in the constitution preamble of every state in our Union.
Thomas Jefferson proclaimed, "The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time. ... Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever."
Prayer is Almighty God's prerequisite for true hope and change, and our nation needs an abundance of both right now. The Patriot Post's National Advisory Board and staff invite you to join us, and millions of our countrymen, in prayer for our nation today at 1200 local time.
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Mark Ryberg
So simple and so seemingly obvious......
Godspeed to our great country
Posted May 6, 2010 at 11:15:52 AM
homer
Try telling the Kenyan Muslim who sits in an honorable seat that G. washington and the founders after him sat! I'd still like to see this man's birth cert.!!!
Posted May 6, 2010 at 11:17:16 AM
I.A.Martin
Yes,I will join in with prayer at 12:00 noon with hope that many many more true Americans will also.
For if we as Americans do not come to the realization that it is God that made us a great nation and it is God that will make us a great nation again. Then all hope is lost.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 11:30:34 AM
ray ragsdale
There is more to " God Bless America " than simply words...it is the foundation of the United States. Those jurisits simply do not accept American exceptionalism
Posted May 6, 2010 at 11:33:16 AM
Telezer
Yes, America should have a day of prayer. It should remain non-denominational as our Founding Fathers intended. One nation under God, however each of us intreprets God.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 11:35:31 AM
Leo Wells
It is commonly accepted that when we are exposed to Gun Fire, WE ALL PRAY.
Maybe after some exposure to that, we could find out if the Despotic Branch truely opposes prayer.
My guess is that it would be OK for them to pray under fire, just not OK for the ordinary people to pray.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 11:39:06 AM
Texas Gal
I am not a religious person, but even I have seen a steady decline in the morality of this country since the ultra liberal and now deceased Madeline Murray O'Hare convinced the courts that prayer in schools was a conflict with regard to the separation between church and state. The more God is removed, the more our rights are taken away. The tighter the government regulates every aspect of our lives, the more liberties we forfeit. When will the madness end? God only knows.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 11:43:41 AM
Edward Brown
Worthy of mention among the signers of the Declaration of Independence is also the name of Rev. John Witherspoon. As he reviewed earlier drafts of this monumental document he became concerned that God was not receiving appropriate acknowledgement and urged the other delegates to clearly state God's role in the life of this new nation.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 11:50:42 AM
jack rouser
Very well done, many thanks.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:03:29 PM
Graysonret
I wonder how long it would be before someone sues, declaring the Declaration of Independence unconstitutional? For that matter, even declaring the Constitution itself, unconstitutional, for having "In the year of our Lord" in it?
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:08:58 PM
James F.
It may be worth noting that at the time our Constitution was accepted, at least three states had official state religions. This should solidify the idea that only the national government was prohibited from establishing an official religion, and there is, therefore, no such thing as a "wall of separation" between all levels of government and all religious activity.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:21:30 PM
Glen
You non-believers...what's to fear? "Day of Prayer" no more makes you a Christian than Halloween makes me a pumpkin!
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:30:34 PM
Harold (Wyatt)
GOD bless the UNITED STATES of AMERICA...We need all the help we can get, being governed by a President who studied at Occidental College as a foreign student from Indonesia, but became A Natural citizen later in life. How can you receive Foreign student funds for college, if you are a natural born citizen? Either way you look at this it is illegal. 1. Foreign born as President or 2. Natural born stealing college funds while posing as a foreign student. I think the government must get to the bottom of this, because we either have a foreign or felon as President.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:35:34 PM
joan
Sure will pray today for this country which sure needs it and our troops to come home.
Joan
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:39:09 PM
kenneth smith
Nobody could have put it any plainer. I have tried to find the words and couldn't seem to put it togather. But here in this message its all there the words I wanted to say but couldn't find them.
We have to get back to these beliefs or God will surely abandon us. We are not perfect in our actions but we have gotten so far away from our Constitution that God help the forefathers write.
It amazes me reading it at this time how it was written at that time there is no doubt that God had a hand in it.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:39:32 PM
sharon brower
This is NOT my comment but, a comment made about your editorial that I posted on my local forum. Thought maybe you'd have a good comeback.
"Not sure what circles you run in, but I'm going to assume that you mean he normally writes well and this was a joke of some kind, because it is horribly written.
The part of the first amendment that protects people FROM government interference is the free excersize clause - I am referring to the establishment clause. They are two different parts with two very different purposes.
The founding fathers did not want a theocracy; many were deist who openly questioned Christian teachings. Jefferson once said "Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
No one will deny that we are a majority Christian country, but the Constiution is meant to protect religious minorities, including the non-religious, from a government that oversteps its boundaries.
And why do you think everything is a Communist plot? It really cheapens your arguments and is unnecessary. I compare it to those on the left who compare every right wing action to Hitler. It doesn't really advance an argument."
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:43:25 PM
Dena Younker
I am so proud to be a part of sharing my faith in God and His Son. The Holy Spirit can move in mysterious ways and I look for His wonders to be performed on those who will not see, even though they claim their eyes are open. Thank you for continuing the "fight" to keep our country free and brought back to "Rule of Law". God bless you!
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:48:11 PM
CLW
How long until the Supreme Court rules Obamacare unconstitutional for not following the legislative process required for bills to be signed into law?
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:49:25 PM
Billie G. Walters
Mark Alexander, thank you for your comprehensive commentary, in your May 6 Essay, on the history of our leaders calling the nation to a Day of Prayer.
Your many references to this call, by so many of our colonial leadership, were most enlightening, encouraging, inspirational and instructive.
Thank you and the PatriotPost for you continuing contributions to the preservation of our republic.
God bless,
Bill Walters
Las Vegas, Nevada
Posted May 6, 2010 at 12:51:32 PM
Matt Jansen
Mark Walters - fantastic article !!! If only every public school child was required to memorize the last Jefferson quote you posted ... Thanks !!!
Posted May 6, 2010 at 1:23:05 PM
BOB DEAN
TO " TEXAS GAL"
NOT TO WORRY, AS LONG AS THERE ARE TEST IN SCHOOL, THERE WILL BE PRAYER.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 1:33:26 PM
JC Reece, US Coast Guard Retired
please check out your spelling of "publicK" in the first paragraph of " Today is National Prayer day"
JC Reeece
Posted May 6, 2010 at 1:35:30 PM
Bernard P. Giroux
In regard to religious belief, it seems to me that this society, during the past 30 years, at least, has ignored religion and that family life has deteriorated drastically. Thus, when faced with educators who have been brought up in a godless household and then sent into society not believing in anything, what do you expect from jurists who have been raised that way?
A Christian, a Patriot, a U.S. Navy Aviator veteran, a guy with a graduate degree, born the day FDR was elected the 4th time.
Bernard P. Giroux
Posted May 6, 2010 at 1:37:37 PM
Theosebes Goodfellow
Would someone care to ask Judge Babs Crabb the following question. If there is supposed to be a complete separation between church and state, just exactly from where do our inalienable rights sprout from? It most certainly is not the state, and it isn't from man either. But that requires the good judge to know the Declaration of Independence, not just the Constitution. Silly wiberal wabbit.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 2:27:55 PM
Major Stu
Excellent essay, as always, direct, cogent, reasoned, well-researched, and nails the point.
To the skeptics referred by Sharon Brower, ask why they chose to ignore the last 2 Jefferson quotes when citing the "homage of reason". Can it be more declarative than "I am a real Christian -- that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."? The Constitution was not written specifically to protect minorities - it was written to CONSTRAIN GOVERNMENT. In so doing, the Constitution upholds the rights of CITIZENS, regardless of their majority/minority status.
As Jefferson questioned the existence of God as an epistemological exercise, he most certainly questioned the despotic, tyrannical nature of unconstrained government. This is the reason the judicial activists have resorted to the "living Constitution" construct, there is no intellectually honest opportunity to amend the Constitution save by the stated process. Only the willfully ignorant can avoid that conclusion.
I contend that Judge Crabb has herself violated the establishment clause of the First Amendment. The secularists and the judicial activists have been attempting to establish Atheism as the official state religion. Knowing that PA was established as a Quaker colony, Maryland as Roman Catholic, Rhode Island as Baptist, Massachusetts as Puritan, etc. re-affirms the historic fact that the Several States did not consider themselves so constrained by the First Amendment as the Federal Government.
US Army veteran
Posted May 6, 2010 at 2:28:36 PM
Janet
Thank you for this. I will share this with my history class next year. God Bless America!
Posted May 6, 2010 at 2:29:53 PM
Adrienne White
Dear Texas Gal, You expressed it well ! For those of us who live in this "GREAT COUNTRY" , we should all say a prayer of "THANKS", to 'GOD", that we are fortunate to have the freedom to express our opinions.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 3:24:45 PM
Marsha
Thank you for your excellent May 6th article, "Endowed by Our Creator." Many Americans have have heard that the Constitution provides for a separation of church and state, and they have heard it for so long that they have come to blieve it is true. Thank you for all of your attempts to clarify that this is absolutely untrue, and that our founding fathers merely wanted to prevent the establishment of a state religion. They clearly never intended to prevent the public exercise of faith. Any written document, or parts of it, can be misinterpreted if taken out of context. Unfortunately, that is exactly what has happened with our Constitution and the Bible whose laws it was based upon. We believers need to pray, not just today, but every day, for our once great nation. It can be great again, but only if we first humble ourselves before God and give our nation back to Him.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 3:24:47 PM
James Koslow
From my first day in kindergarden before WWII( at a German Lutheran school no less) with my brother who was in 1st grade, we were taught our Constitution and along with Christion prayer recited the Pledge of Allegiance each morning. My brother died on Okinawa with this spirit. The question long on my mind is " When did the religions, apart from the ones with European roots, become such a dominate influence in the USA, especially the Muslum/Islam. BHO apparently believs these have been here a long ,long time.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 3:46:03 PM
karl anglin
It is one thing to show a man that he is
in error, and another to put him in
possession of the truth----John Locke (1632-1704)
Posted May 6, 2010 at 3:46:18 PM
David Rathbone
The actual first use by Thomas Jefferson of the wall of separation between church and state is popularly thought to be the letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. His idea of this separation between church and state actually predates the U. S. Constitution of 1789.
On January 16, 1786, the Senate of Virginia passed the Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom. This statute was written by Thomas Jefferson. It followed the James Madison statute Remonstrance against Religious Assessments in 1785.
These two works formulated the idea of separation of church and state. At that time the Anglican Church was the official church of Virginia. As the official state church it was supported by taxes paid by all residents of the state, even if they attended a church of another denomination, and even though there were more members of other denominational churches than the Anglican Church.
The Remonstrance against Religious Assessments showed that no religion should be supported by taxes paid by the people. Popular opinion of the people of Virginia, in a very short time, changed from accepting what had existed in the Crown Colony to not supporting any denomination with taxes.
Jefferson’s statute, the Virginia Statutes of Religious Freedom, stated that a truly free people were able to worship as only they could see fit. He stated that to establish a state religion is “a departure from the plan of the Holy Author of our religion.” He saw hypocrisy in a free society establishing a denomination as the correct religion. He could not envision a circumstance where a free people would do that, or allow it to be done. He felt there should be a wall of separation to prevent the government dictating worship.
The Despotic Branch and their minions have changed the Constitution from protecting the people and their choice of worship. They have changed the words "Congress shall pass no law respecting the establishment of religion or the free exercise there of" into "there will be no public display of worship".
Posted May 6, 2010 at 3:47:58 PM
Duke of Earl
Marc,
The statements that you quoted from the Founding Fathers say exactly what I have interpreted them to say. The Constitution was written to prohibit the establishment of a "National Religion" or a primary faith. The constitution was written to prohibit one faith from dominating the other faiths and thus cause a mass exodus as seen in Great Britain from 1607 to 1750 (give or take) and then in the rest of Europe.
The 1st Amendment to the Constitution states the case in very plain English: the government can't create a religion and it cannot deny the free exercise of any other persons religious beliefs.
The English is plain, simple and to the point. The same English used to write the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution.
I would like to propose an elementary reading program to be established to help those on the left learn to read what is written.
Duke
Posted May 6, 2010 at 4:17:24 PM
Rick
I have no problem with Christians or any others practicing their religion as they see fit, as long as it doesn't interfere with me doing likewise. Have your National Day of Prayer, as long as I'm not coerced to join in. The idea of prayer in school is one that I'm both for and against, in that I think you should be free to pray when and where you like, but not forced by a teacher to join in a particular type of prayer as a class. This leaves it up to the teacher what religion and what form of prayer you are led in. I can remember waaay back when I was in school, the teacher leading the class in prayer that I didn't agree with then or now, my choice, but I was forced to rise and bow my head with the rest of the class as the teacher led the prayer. This isn't what I want to see come back, yet we've gone too far in the opposite direction now, not even allowing the mention of religion.
I understand everybody wanting their own views to be law, but that can't work. Too many opinions and beliefs. There needs to be room for all without any one having too much sway, or the notion of freedom is false. Having your creche in a public square hurts me not at all, even though I don't believe as you do, but if you're going to have it, I must have the same rights to public displays of my religious beliefs. Many of you may not like that, and honestly I have no need for public displays of my beliefs. Christians demanding they be recognized, and demanding public forums for their beliefs is about as distasteful to me as homosexuals parading down the street in drag, and to both I have the same comment, do what you like, just don't force me to watch.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 4:25:05 PM
Gary
Simply pathetic,this country now being run by a minority of the people. Really sad for a once great nation. GLG
Posted May 6, 2010 at 4:48:26 PM
Rifleman
Dear Rick: If you have the time and the inclination, you might go back and read what the Founders had to say about religion, faith and Christianity. You've been schooled by today's Progressives who've convinced you that the Constitution is a "living document." On that point, see if you can ferret out -- again, if you have the inclination and the interest -- what Mr. Jefferson said about returning to what the Founders had in mind and what they intended whenever a Constitutional question arises. By 200 years, he anticipated your feeling-based (and well-traveled and erroneous) argument.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 5:23:41 PM
Rifleman
The National Day of Prayer ought to be followed by "pray[er] without ceasing."
Posted May 6, 2010 at 5:26:23 PM
A Texican
Somewhere in the Bible, it states that we are a "Temple of God". Or at least our bodies are. So therefore, wherever we are, God is there also. Waiting in the shadows of our beings, for us to call on him. I believe He is even with the Atheists, waiting for them to call out to Him. I also believe you can ignore him for a lifetime, and He will be there at the end , patiently waiting. The child in the classroom can and does call to him for answers to the test questions. How many times have you heard someone say "O Lord" or "O GOD" or "please dont let this or that happen"? Is that not a prayer? Who are you asking or calling on if not GOD?
So,,,keep asking or praying, no matter what you want to label it!
Posted May 6, 2010 at 6:02:55 PM
Bob W
Our new motto!
Remember in November, remember in November!
Posted May 6, 2010 at 6:04:11 PM
Bob in Amarillo
All men are created equal.. in 1776 that meant (and should still mean) that commoners are born into life just like royalty. The commoner is the same human being as is the prince. Royalty is a matter of family, not humanity, thus deserves no surreal benefits in life. We've prostituted that phrase from our Declaration of Independence to serve the entitlement mentality and the socialist state. How can we get back to the basics?
Posted May 6, 2010 at 6:27:24 PM
PatriotsVoice
The left has attacked the christian ideas that were a cornerstone in the founding of this nation for decades now. It is time we stop turning the other cheek to the leftists in this country and stand toe to toe against them. It is time to get just as nasty as they do and do not give them an inch of forgiveness. The bible is full of epic battles, we are in one of these epic battles my friends, it is time to stand strong against the forces of evil that are attempting to take total control of this country.
Posted May 6, 2010 at 8:25:06 PM
Guy L W Hardy
With the clear understanding that the Creator is always greater than the creation, it appears that the good judge - and all those who think like her - have spent too long a time away from The Word. The seem to regard themselves a gods now, possessed of the authority to make of us mere mortals what they wish.
Our bonehead-in-chief has finally come to understand how close Americans are to widespread ignition. He has recently spoken against the the impending violence he scents on the wind. He knows war is coming; he is becoming aware of just how big the bear is that he has been poking, and he is trying to placate the beast with what he hopes are comforting tones. For its part, the bear hears noise that it does not desire, and it smells fear that only fans its rage.
The blood of patriots is not all the tree of liberty requires; it is the blood of tyrants also that must flow. And to these tyrants who rise proudly and, after the example of Lucifer himself, claim the authority, the power, and the throne of God, I say this -
"Behold! a god who bleeds!!"
Posted May 6, 2010 at 9:11:00 PM
Major Stu
My forefathers came to this continent to escape the crush of oppression and religious intolerance. We can not now allow religious intolerance by the Atheistic and secular left to stand. Their tyranny and intolerance more resembles King George's now more than it has in 2 centuries. I have no problem with my fellow citizens choosing to worship, or not to worship, as their conscience dictates. I served to help secure that right. Please, don't try to tell me that the State now decides what my conscience dictates. That is the true Separation of Church and State. What mortal can truly know what is in the hearts of men?
Posted May 7, 2010 at 12:37:05 AM
Jim Finch
It's time (207 years from Marbury/Madison) to put the brakes on the SCOTUS. Our representatives in congress should not allow the Court to subvert the Law of the Land, which they claim to uphold, to their political whims. "Congress shall MAKE NO LAW...." When did a cross or a prayer become a law? Unfortunate that congress is too busy spending the people's money to pay attention to the people. Government "of the people, by the people and for the people" has perished.
Posted May 7, 2010 at 10:30:11 AM
Rick
Rifleman,
Maybe you didn't actually read my post? I'm not against you doing what you like, I'm against you shoving it down my throat. I have read extensively the writings of the founding fathers, and I know their beliefs were important to them, as mine are to me.
What I have a problem with is coerced prayer for myself or my children, who don't believe as you do. What is wrong with that? How does that go against anything written by the founders of this country.
You seem to mistake me for a liberal or progressive, nothing could be farther from the truth. I am a constitutionalist, first and last, and nowhere in that document is there anything that could be construed to say that forced group prayer is OK in schools, or that gives you a public forum for your religion and not for mine. I've already said I have no problem with Christians praying when and where they like, including in school and public displays of your beliefs, such as a creche. None of this diminishes me in any way. What I object to, more than anything else, is some teacher telling their class to rise for morning prayer. Should the children of Atheists be forced into this, should Jewish children be forced to pray to a Christian God, Children of any number of other religions that are here living in this country wanting the same freedoms as you?
Have your day of prayer, I have absolutely no problem with it, just don't expect me to join in, that's my right, and don't try to indoctrinate my kids behind my back at school, that's also my right.
Posted May 7, 2010 at 12:19:56 PM
Tim Arnold
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN! God Bless all who stand firm in the face of this present dakness. Speak the truth in love, but SPEAK THE TRUTH!
Posted May 8, 2010 at 2:05:40 PM
MARGE GANISIN
God gave us all"free will" that allowed people to
vote for the person OF THEIR choice, OBAMA,he showed
who and what he stands for"SOCIALISM" OUR CONSTITUTION WILL BE ABOLISHED, government takeover
our lives, our children will never enjoy freedom as
we have known it to be free to worship as we were
taught by our parents, I thank GOD every day of my
83 years for what I have, it is scary to think of
what the future holds, I am thankful for BEING BORN IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and our MILITARY
WHO WATCH OVER US AND OUR CONSTITUTION..GOD BLESS.
THANK YOU FOR THIS CHANCE TO YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE
DOING TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK, WE WEATHERED A LOT
BUT GOD WILL NOT LET US DOWN....THANKS.....
the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Posted May 9, 2010 at 2:24:42 PM
Paul E. Puebla
Most pluralism and American religious diversity happened at the expense of Anglicans and New England Congregationalists who held the dominant denominational positions from 1720 through the mid 1800’s. It was not Anglicanism the Danbury Baptist worried about but the power of the Congregationalists. It was that same political power the Congregational Church wielded in Connecticut that the Knights of Columbus was formed.
Posted May 15, 2010 at 10:14:24 AM
Rick Plavidal
Excellent Article! It highlights the first and 2nd of 3 key Biblical/Christian principles upon which our country was founded. The first being the "sovereignty of God" principle which reminds us that God is above governments. The 2nd principle is the "free will of man" which states that God created us to be free - especially free to choose our relationship with our Creator. This most important choice is clearly protected by our first amendment right. The 3rd principle is what I call the "nature of man" principle. This principle reminds us that all men are inherently corrupted by sin and cannot be entrusted with unchecked power. This principle is the basis for our constitutionally limited government and stands as a warning for those who would prefer a more progressive and empowered government.
Posted May 17, 2010 at 12:42:45 AM
James Albritton
The Most Intelligent Analysis Yet!
Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president."
"The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
Posted June 7, 2010 at 3:53:20 AM
J. D.
One Nation, under God. If thats a problem for anyone, don't let the door hit you, where the good Lord split you. I strongly suggest you leave this country. ps: please keep our brave military men and women in your prayers especially those in harms way.
Posted September 9, 2010 at 12:17:41 PM