I prefer the ballot box, but am prepared for either.

But if the ballot box fails in 2012, I don't think there will be a choice, Bad as I hate to say it, I think it is "time,"

I can't begin to tell you how fed up and disgusted I am with this man who has done his best to wreck our republic in 2 and 1/2 years.

It will be a real fight to outvote him in 2012. He will use every crooked scheme he and his cohorts can think of to fraudulently win the election.

We must win and remove him and his czars and their

destructive socialist agenda.

I have written an essay suggesting and describing the mechanics of a split of the nation into two separate nations, one that could live under the Obama system (see Atlas Shrugged)and the other for the rest of us. Either that or, if Obama somehow wins in 2012, I will move to Texas and hope for succession.

If voting him out or impeaching him won't work - the other choice could become a reality - stranger things have been known to happen!

Unfortunately, unless Americans wake up and replace the liberal progressives in congress, and demand adherence to the Constitution, the time will come where bullets will be required, sooner than later.

Professor Paul Eidleberg, from Chicago, now in Jerusalem, said last year that America's problems could no longer be solved by the ballot box. Of course the ballot box is much preferred by everyone, including me. But it is too late for that.

Whatever it takes to restore liberty.

It's not just Obama; it's the whole political culture that thinks the federal government is the source of prosperity and the guarantor of opportunity! This will not be changed with ballots. Regrettably, I seriously doubt it can be made better with bullets either. I do not see a way forward where anything gets better for the long run. In short, the ship has already hit the iceburg and the only question is whether it sinks quickly and everybody drowns, or it sinks slowly and everybody freezes.

Only Ron Paul is consistently correct. The MSM ignore him, and that discourages many from listening to his message.

The Revolution will not be televised.

It is up to us to spread the word.

We need to end the Federal Reserve and IRS, stop the foreign interventionism, scrap the welfare state, and return to individual responsibility and personal freedom for all Americans.

I hope that it's at the BALLOT box. If need be by the BULLET then so be it.

I agree with Mark Steyn on a Hugh Hewitt interview http://www.hughhewitt.com/transcripts.aspx?id=00f56e53-3602-4c72-849a-01697e879afa

"Obama, it’s not the fact that there is a man called Barack Hussein Obama. It is the fact that that man was elected by, whatever it was, 53% of the American people."

My opinion is that we have not learned from the Moses story - following his father-in-law’s idea for increased government which finally destroyed ingenuity over the years. Personal responsibility for self and family and your neighbor in need was neglected because the government will take of the poor, the widow, the orphan, and the alien. So Abraham’s Promised Land Dream was forgotten, along with the neglected poor, the widow, the orphan, and the alien. Freedom was lost. The will to survive was overcome by the predator.

"The tree of liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of patriots and of tyrants." Maybe not quoted exactly, but the sentiment rings true. I'm just an old Marine peckerwood who lives in the hills with too many guns, but I stand by my oath taken decades ago, to defend this country from ALL enemies both foreign and domestic. SEMPER FI

All of Washington, except for maybe the new Tea Party conservatives. They might not have been tainted yet!!!!

I am the daughter of a career military man. What Dad taught me above everything except God Almighty, is that freedom is never free but those who enjoy it must at all times be prepared to defend it and fight to keep it. The right to bear arms insures the right to defend and fight for America and all she provides for her citizens.

Time for a new president. This guy Obama has already done more damage than allowable.

I think it will come down to a new civil war between socialists and constitutionists. Personally my view is that the government has grown too big to fix. It will collapse under its own weight. The problem of career politicians and overspending OUR MONEY to KEEP THEMSELVES in office (via pork-barrel politics and the like) is at fault. Not to mention the poorly educated "I want my piece of the pie for free" non-thinking electorate which is manipulated by the politicians and the abetting media. They all need to go. I do not advocate violence but if they do not leave willingly, WE THE PEOPLE will have to pay again for liberty with our blood.

My idea of Hope and Change - I Hope all the credulous nitwits who elected this loser now see that the Change they made was ruinous for us all. I seriously believe IF they had voted differently, we would not have seen this mess unfold and now would not be reaping the rewards (?). Of course, having heard it all before, what has happened was not his fault. The time for blaming GW is long over; step up and take your medicine like a man.

I think the liberals in control will incite those who are on the free hand outs from the liberal controlled Gov to violence during this next election. They will then provide a solution to the violence which furthers their control over the people. We could be forced to defend our families and property with bullets in the very near future.

A simple plan to recovery: BECOME ENERGY INDEPENDENT! Turn loose the domestic energy industry to make the US self supporting. Government should get out of the way and allow these companies to do what needs to be done to make the US the leader in energy production. The secondary and support jobs created would lower the unemployment levels and fill the treasury. Second, cut off all foreign aid, the UN, and the IMF from any funds. Let them borrow the money from someone else.

The only change that is needed is in the Oval Office!

I haven't noticed any of the "illegal" president's Muslim supporters getting air time or coverage in the mainstream news.

I DON'T WONDER WHY! ! !

I am an old man of 65. In my 65 years I have seen this country go from one with many freedoms to what we have now. Big brother watching our every move.

For many years now I have said things have gone so far without we the people standing up for our rights that the only way we can get our rights back is to have an armed revolution.

Having fought for this country and having taken an oath to defend the constitution of this country I am ready to take up arms to make this country free once again.

Ballot or bullets, either way is okay with me. We have to get rid of BHO before he destroys our country.

It has been the case for many years now that we cannot have confidence that our elections are true. There is a general belief that all are manipulated, especially in union dominated areas. When that confidence is so eroded, one fears the alternative.

I agree with Sandra Miller, this excuse of a human being will try every crooked means he can to continue his path to our country's destruction. For those who think he is not doing this purposely, wake up, folks!

Bullet or Ballot box?

No one should want the bullet box, but what can be said when the government passes legislation after legislation that is rejected in principle by the majority?

This objection is especially clear when time after time, the minority stands to gain, personally, from the proposed legislation(s)!

This is the mechanism by which socialism raises its ugly head.

The Constitution and judicial processes provides for the resolution to the current problems.

In his inaugural, BHO promised to uphold the

Constitution and the laws of this country. Federal law calls for the enforcement of immigration, marriage act, etc. Abortion is not to be paid from public funds. BHO has directed his AG Holder to ignore the enforcement of these laws. This may be grounds for impeachment.

We The People has a moral Duty to enforce The Constitution Against Foreign & Domestic Enemies Of The US Constitution. We The People Must Overthrow Obama, The Entire Democrats in The White House & Overthrow The Entire Democrats in Congress & Senate for Treason & High Crimes & Violation Of The Constitution For Intentionally Destroy Our Western Capitalist Way Of Life to Force Communism Down Our Throats taking away Our Freedom. We The People must become Judge, Jury & Executioner against the Traitors.

If we win the next election with a substantial margin, I feel there is hope for the nation. If Obama wins or loses by only a small margin, I believe the populas is still ignorant and our hope of continuing this country in it's original form is likely lost. The "people" have to make this happen!

BULLETS are needed now - it is too late for elections, etc. which are corrupt and bought. But how to start the bullets flying? It is almost unthinkable but now that it has come to this, what will be the final powderkeg?

I think that gone are the days when Patriots will stand back and let a STOLEN election stand, just be cause it was an "election." That as Patriots we are EXPECTED to quietly take the theft of our country and allow liberal/socialist/communist big mouths to yell in our faces like children and we are supposed to not respond in like manner because we are bigger than that. Well I'm not going to be bigger than that anymore. Attack my freedom at your peril. The riots in Britain are happening because the British people allowed themselves to be disarmed by their government. Obama jumped the gun...so to speak.

I will defend my country by any means necessary. I prefer the ballot but if the socialists want my bullets, so be it.

...... against all enemies foreign or domestic.

lock and load

We need to recall many of our so-called leaders and bring Obama up on charges.I am very hopefull that the ballet box will make the required corrections to our government.If not I hope we have the will power to follow our constitution and do what is required of us who enjoy freedom and less government.

Ballot or Bullets, it depends in regards to bullets who is the target. If it's O and his socialist buddies, fire away.. else cast a ballet..

WE NEED A WINNER - NOT A WHINER

A LEADER NOT A LIAR.

I VOTE A BALLOT

If we are forced to abolish our gov't to replace it with one that "gets back to basics", bullets will probably be needed. In any case, I am ready and prepared are many other people I'm sure.

We need to remove the black muslim President, and all the democRats kissing up to him, and letting him destroy our system, and future.

Sincerely, OL' Bob

What of the Joint Cheifs Staff, we need them to help in the fight for freedom at home. They've got the most bullets and did take a special Constitutional oath to protect this Nation.

The big O needs to be changed, and the rest of his supporters.

We The People has a moral Duty to enforce The Constitution Against Foreign & Domestic Enemies Of The US Constitution. We The People Must Overthrow Obama, The Entire Democrats in The White House & Overthrow The Entire Democrats in Congress & Senate for Treason & High Crimes & Violation Of The Constitution For Intentionally Destroy Our Western Capitalist Way Of Life to Force Communism Down Our Throats taking away Our Freedom. We The People must become Judge, Jury & Executioner against the Traitors.

as are many other people I'm sure.

I always read your articles and agree with most everything you say. I worry at the course President Obama is leading our country and wonder if the Republican Party can offer a candidate who can beat this man. In the end, it is all up to God and I have to trust in God's plan. I hope and assume you pray for a turnaround for our nation.

A constitutional amendment that brings Congress, both houses, back down to earth, namely taking away the lifetime pension and making them put into and participate in Social Security. that also takes away their healthcare plan and makes them participate in the new healthcare just like the rest of us. that takes away any and all perks that are given them just for serving and takes away the incentive to be lifelong career politicians. The federal work force is approaching a percentage of voters that soon will be to big to beat at the polls, given the fact that there husbands/wives, family and friends will vote for them to keep their jobs. Kill the fed, the depts of education, energy, and the irs. stop the epa from regulating us into slavery with regulations that could never be passed if voted on. this would be a good start and any politician that is not talking about these things is just another bulls*** artist that is looking to play the game.

Ballot box or bullets? No matter how it turns out @ the ballot box I can see how the other option becomes a reality. If the conservative/tea party side wins I can see the leftist/socialists rising up to keep what they've won. If the mentally ill leftists win and continue trampling on the Constitution I can see the conservatives rising up and saying "enough's enough." Either way, things could get very interesting and very dangerous. While that battle is fought the Obama admin will continue to turn up the heat for more gun control, hoping to disarm the opposition. It's beyond comprehension how the left can support policies that will INCREASE govt control and decrease personal liberty. If the left wins, you can kiss true FREEDOM goodbye. Does the left think they'll somehow be exempt from that?

Now is not the time for bullets. That time is coming, if the path doesn't change, but not yet. The public needs to be educated in our history, our constitution, and where we've erred. The public (majority) needs to DEMAND our elected and appointed officials perform according to the constitution. Should they refuse to act in accordance with the law, when it is demanded by an educated citizenry, then force may be required. Force without rightful, educated, deliberate intent would be thuggery as we see in England today.

In 1775, the people had grit and a love of Liberty that knew no bounds whatever.

Today, most Americans are apathetic and lethargic - too distracted by their latest Chinese widget to concern themselves with the loss of their Liberty.

Bullets? Please. Most cannot be bothered to vote. Heroes and cowards share one common trait - they are not born, but are revealed by their actions in times of crisis.

Look up Isaac Davis and his Minutemen, who had not a man among them afraid to go. Ask yourself a hard question. Would you face a professional army to defend your Liberty?

Look up Samuel Whittemore and ask yourself - would you, crippled at 78, take on an entire column of troops by yourself to save your posterity from servitude?

I suggest we get to the ballot box in great numbers and elect our servants based not upon words and promises, but upon their deeds - holding them to their duty with "zero tolerance".

It is our best and likely only hope to maintain Liberty.

I have felt that for some time that the Government was adrift and was asking the American Taxpayer to pay for lots of things that the majority of Americans do not want and we haven't been able to pay for.

If the average citizen spent money like Congress has gotten used to, we would be in prison for fraud and thievery.

The Congress and the staffers that support them have failed to manage the assets that we the American wage earner have allowed them to take from us. Most Americans do not mind paying taxes, but we do mind paying for things that the individual should do for themselves.

If a head of household is so shortsighted that there is no health insurance, it is not fair to ask others to pay their bills.

If the Average citizen wants to be generious with their money, that is fine. The Federal Government

does not have the right to give our assets to special interest groups or foreign governments.

Sincerely

SFC (Ret) John W. Harvey

What do we need to change ??

Why, presidents, of course !!!!

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

—George Washington

Ever since Ike left office, our southern borders have essentially been opened and only cursorily controlled. Both parties, owned and operated by the European central banks through London and by further extension, the Federal Reserve Bank system have wantonly failed to enforce our immigrations laws. That coupled with policies emanated from the civil rights movement of the mid '60's, have culminated with an engineered voting demographic that will ensure we conservatives will be sorely outnumbered in any election at least at the federal level. Additionally, the GOP, which is thought to be the counter force to the Democrat Party (which for all intents and purposes has become The Communist Party in America), is really operated by the same forces that operate the Democrat party and to the same end. Has anyone bothered to notice that what few times the GOP was solidly in power that they never once successfully repealed any previous collectivist legislation and that even when in power the have continually compromised us toward the collectivist state we have become? The agenda has been in play since around 1907 with the Robber Barons. We constitutional conservatives have no official voice in Washington, yet we are robbed every paycheck by the authority granted the government by the 16th Amendment. At some point the fiscal insanity will cause the hyper inflation and consumer price rises which will far outstrip the income levels of most of those who voted for all this hope and change. Think London only worse in our urban centers. We no longer have the ability to stop the progress of the agenda thought the use of the ballot box. Case in point was the last election when several very conservative and patriotic GOP candidates were summarily swept aside and McCain was essentially anointed, the head RINO and again we a bad and worse choice on our ballot. The controllers know Americans will sucker for this every time to expect another RINO to be the GOP's nominee unless the conservative right can somehow wrestle control of the process from the established GOP mainstream. Had McCain won, he would have voted with the left enough to keep their agenda going. As all know, he has recently revealed what he thinks of conservative Americans.

As for the questions. The point is moot. The ballot will yield more of the same which, left to its logical conclusion will result in the use of bullets, sooner or later, either way, certain.

It is apparent that our President does not understand what really creates jobs and drives the economy. He has turned our country into a big mess that my kids and grandchildres will have to correct. His leadership has made a dismal mess out of everything he tries to do.

No prudent, reasonable person will choose bullets first. The fact is the ballots of 2012 may decide if bullets are a viable second choice….

Talk of bullets undermines the right's credibility. Please stop.

It has been somewhat amusing over the last three years with Obama as the Chief in Spender and obvious supporter of anything anti Israel. How has it been amusing you may ask? It seems to me that most if not all conservative and/or Christian &/or Republican leaning folks seem to think that Mr.Obama and his cohorts are making their decisions they way they do because of a lack of knowledge. I venture to say that they are making their decisions based upon their desire for the way this country [and world] should go in their minds. They are bent on having s socialistic USA and world. Their desire is for a global government and the quickest way to get there is by the destruction of our economic system and well as the rest of the world's economy. If I might add that it appears that they are [anti]christian and put their trust in what man can do.

Less government, more responsibility, and with God's help, a better world. If not for God, guns and guts, we would still be a colony of Great Britain. Wake up, America, before it is too late.

Mr. Alexander, you are a radical terrorist as are most of the people on this board including myself according to Washington. IF people actually had the guts to harshly challenge this government, it would take the police and the military to pull it off. If they did not support it, do you honestly believe that we would not see our own Government treating us like Syria does it's people? The picture is ugly. It starts at the ballot box and I have no illusions that this welfare state will vote anyone in of the ilk you and I subscribe to.

Not to be left out, Times columnist Thomas Friedman joined the smear fest: "If sane Republicans do not stand up to this Hezbollah faction in their midst, the Tea Party will take the GOP on a suicide mission."

Hypocrisy at its finest. I thought the Demoleft wanted to be rid of the GOP so they could run roughshod over the citizens of the USA? Oh wait, they've already done that when they controlled 3/3 of 2/3 of the branches of government. The timing could not be more perfect for a tea party revolution be it by ballot or bullet. I pray it is by ballot.

I'm for the Ballots first but not to wait to long , then "bullets" if it is the last resort !! I will not let my country go down without a fight one way or another. God Bless America

So long as the ballot is available, the bullet is totally unacceptable (and unAmerican). The right to vote is not the right to win. Obama's re-election (should that be the choice of the American people) certainly does not justify violence, anymore than George W. Bush's election would have justified violence on the left. Concentrate your efforts on the ballot box and cease the counter-productive blabber about the bullet box.

The occupants of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Now that would provide hope and much needed change!

This is 1939 Germany. If the German People had killed Hilter and his henchmen who were set on destroying the unalienable rights of the German people WWII would have been avoided. If the German people had lay in wait for the brown shirts, who came in the night to haul off the undesirables, and killed them well and often the number of brown shirts willing to do such would have dried up. Freedom and liberty is only alive as long as people love it more than life and life style. Nullification by the states is the only way this country might avoid bloodshed and riots of Europe and the middle east. That would assume the states have the courage to do so.

I am ready as are many of my friends and acquaintance for either ballots or bullets as an answer to the destruction wrought by BO. We must take this country back!

Forty years after serving in the Military, I still honor my oath to defend the Constitution of the United States. I will do my duty at the polls, and if that's not enough, then I will do what is necessary to preserve this Country.

We need to cut back on Social Programs and give every president the line item Veto for getting rid of earmarks. We need to repeal Obama Care and Maidicade. It would help the business community if about 50 percent of the Enviroment Agency were fired and do away with the Dept of Energy and the Dept of Education. The Dept of Energy does not produce or make it easier to produce energy and the Dept of Education does not educate, but instead is a front for the teachers unions.

Sincerely

SFC (Ret) John W. Harvey

I am torn, on my fixed income, between buying precious metals and buying bullets. As it stand now, I don't believe that I have anywhere near enough of either.

Sadly I think America is done for, the damage the curent idiot in charge and his morons in Congress have inflicted to our economy is going to grow until the total collapse of capitalism. This was his plan and the spineless so called (R) in congress have only aided him. There isn't a sane person left in government, not one with any inkling of the common man. When they create the utopia of socialism they think they are creating they alone will be the elite at the top and the rest of us will starve or stand in line for meger gifts from the masters, just like the USSR, until it collapses in on itself like all communistic governments do. If I could I'd move out of this country before it's too late. We are doomed to become Cuba.

First off, everyone posting seems to make the same obvious mistake. Calling this misbegotten half-breed POTUS is a big error. The scumbag couldn't qualify as an infected pimple on a president's ass. Maybe eventually we will all get that.

Ballot Box, don't know! Too many government depend-

ants! Too many on a free ride makes us a divided

nation. Bullet Box, don't know! Things definitely

have to change in this country, and we're ready for

some kind of revolution to restore this REPUBLIC !!

to what it was. People have to be smart in this next

election. Cast votes for people who tell the truth,

and eliminate the ones that spew rhetoric,many of

which are now runnung our country.

As long as the ballot is available, the bullet is totally unacceptable (and unAmerican). The right to vote is not the right to win. Obama's re-election (should that be the choice of the American people) certainly does not justify violence, anymore than George W. Bush's election would have justified violence on the left. Concentrate your efforts on the ballot box and cease the counter-productive rhetoric about the bullet box.

This year I had the profound experience of sitting in the Republican booth during our county fair. It took my breath away at how many times people came up and asked when the revolution was going to begin because they felt like we've just lost so much - even the belief that we could fairly vote this administration out of office! It seems that it will be either bullet or ballot.

I would rather smoke some tea with the tea party than to drink Kool-Aid with the Demo and BHO.

He will never get it that he is flushing our country down the toilet

Rick Perry please please please run!!!

It is a tragedy to have to say it, but it will be bullets if the ballot box fails us.

I sure hope by ballot, but I think more and more of us are getting mentally prepared if not. The founding fathers and heros of their time sacrificed for the greater good and if that's what it takes to right this ship, then so be it. I don't want my children growing up in a European style Socialist Democracy or worse. On the other side, look at what is going on in Great Britian, France, Greece, Israel, etc. The parasites that have the entitlement mentality and live off the system will not take lightly the reduction or elimination of their "benefits". G-d help us.

I'm with R E Clark above. Why haven't Congress or anyone else started criminal legal proceedings against Mr. Obama and his czars? I think you need to amend your question. It's bullets or ballot box; not the other way around. I don't have faith in the general public's ability to be informed voters. Hence it is very likely Obama will win a second term. The media is sure standing behind him. What we really need is a coup.

That's calling the kettle black!

Ann Coulter's column today: http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-08-10.html

indicates the direction Obama and the Democrats want to take the country. I believe that Obama will be defeated in the 2012 election, but if he should try to invoke martial law to keep an election from happening or the will of the voters from being carried out, then bullets will be required and the "cleansing" that then occurs will not be a pretty picture.

Though I have taken a personal hit in the stock market, I am delighted that S&P downgraded the US credit rating. Since the idiots in Washington are unwilling to do their jobs, S&P has forced them into action! In effect, S&P is the enforcer of the will of the people!

USA corporate tax rates are among the highest in the OECD. Large corporations with political clout sneak loopholes into the tax code, while small and mid sized business with no political clout pay maximum rates. It is absolutely ridiculous and has hindered the growth of private sector employment. Until O & company understand this, we will continue to suffer with flagging economic performance.

The PatriotPost and Alexander's Essays are zccurate, timely and necessary in todays political conflicts. I especially like and copy all quotes.Great work: Continue the March!

What we most need to change in the US is the occupant of the white House. That's the best way to overcome the problems the country faces.

My greatest fear is not that we will fix this, we will. The fear is that our memory of this mess will fade by November 2012. The "spin doctors" will be hard at work, blaming Republicans and/or GW, but the fact remains, we are now living in an "ObamaNation" and it needs to be fixed in November 2012.

Wrong, Rick63. The bullet box is SO VERY American! It is how we came to be in the first place.

Personally, I am an Oathkeeper, a Bitter Clinger, and a reloader. And I AM prepared.

I hope it's the ballet box but, us old Veterans are damn sure ready if it's the other.

We need to do what all good Americans have done forever, fight to keep this country great. There are many parallels to things that have happened in Europe and the Middle East over my lifetime, and God help us if that all comes to happen here. If we all band together, we CAN change the course of things without having to fire a shot. No matter what he has done to us so far, we are far better than having to do anything other than get the word out and vote. People are starting to see what a problem this president is for our country. He is doing a lot of the work for us. Keep talking, keep voting, it's the American way!!!!

1. term limit all federally elected officials

2. No life time pensions for elected officials they get a salary while in office and that is IT!

3. Govt officials must live under the exact same laws as we the people. No special Health insurance, franking, private planes,

4. terminate EPA, Commerce, ARTS, HUD, Fanny mae, Freddie Mac, Education, All of Obamacare, NO tax payer money to ANY illegal aliens, cancel all foreign aid,

5. Exploit All domestic oil resources at the private level. Remove ALL Federal regulation on all private industry and remit it to the local level.

6. Cancel the Federal reserves ability to print our money. It can act as a clearing house for checks only. No more fiat money. All money must be backed by gold or silver.

Wrong, Rick63. The bullet box is SO VERY American! It is how we came to be in the first place.

Personally, I am an Oathkeeper, a Bitter Clinger, and a reloader. And I AM prepared.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."

So, is it time for another American Revolution?

Ballots. Just look at most of the other revolutions (not the American revolution) in history and see how bad it gets. The French Revolution comes to mind... It truly was the worst of times. Anarchy and chaos reigned. Not a good idea...

Like most true Patriots, I would prefer to use ballots to change what has gone awry. However, I have the tools to do it the hard way if required. I may be past the age of active duty service, but I still maintain my Oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies. May God grant a peaceful path, but give is strength to fight for Liberty should peace fail.

Every Citizen needs to Petition Congress to put the

current administration on Hold.....it's not following Constitutional Law and is intentionally

sabotaging our economy. It should not be allowed to

continue it's treasonous acts.

I am consistently amazed at how many American citizens are totally unaware of the gravity of our present national situation. I would not be at all surprised if bullets started flying before 11/12. I would love to think I am over reacting, however, I think not. If BHO happens to get reelected, then it will be 'Katie, bar the door!'.

What do we need to change? Well, change the name Tea Party to Comrades with Arms sort of like the way Democrats now prefer to be called Progressives.

Then next month change it again and after a few months of name changing those people who do not subscribe to the message the Tea Party conveys will certainly think, well believe anyway, because I'm not sure that they think at all, they were totally outnumbered by all these new factions.

Terry

We must try the ballot first but be ever mindful that those we oppose, will not go quietly and will try to push us into a violent response with the intent of declaring martial law. It may be necessary to resort to bullets if that happens. I pray to our Lord God that that will NOT BE NECESSARY. However we MUST be prepared. I am now convinced that the oposition will do whatever is necessary to push through their vision of "change" @ ANY cost!

At the rate this moron and his cronies keep doing things, I'm leaning toward the bullet box. We have too many uneducated freeloaders that want Obummer to take care of them by making everyone else pay for their laziness and unwillingness to work. Now he wants dumb the country down even more by waiving no child left behind requirements. The insanity must be stopped!

I think that, hopefully we can beat them at the ballot box, but I really expect trouble, and every liberal loser is going to go whining to the courts for a stinking recount. IMHO if you lose the election you lost, unless the count is very close.

Then of course we could turn our ballots into bullets,if necessary, and then I can vote as many times as I want to, as long as I am able:

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day,that my child may have peace" Thomas Paine 1776.

And in keeping with the spirit of American Patriotism, if the ballot option does not work, one might recall the words of old Tom Jefferson: "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. ... What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that the people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

Progressive, i.e. Marxist thinking has had over a hundred years of development and organization in this country, and no single election will undo what has been carefully constructed over the past century. I am not certain that we can "elect" our way out of the situation in which we find ourselves. Can we even trust those who call themselves "conservative" or "libertarian" and run on a conservative ticket? Dare we? Ballot or bullet... an apt question, and certainly one which we will have to answer in the not too distant future. Obviously ballot first, then... Are we willing? Are we prepared for the cost? How badly do we desire freedom? Time for soul-searching.

Pray for the ballot, but it is really up to "them".

-Repeal NAFTA

-Repeal Dodd-Frank

-Repeal Affordable Health Care (Obamacare)

-5 year moratorium on all foreign aid

-20% reduction in Congressional pay, allowances, and travel

-Term limits for Congress with no pension or tenure

-Defund the so-called "non-war" in Libya

-Pass Right to Work

-Audit the Federal Reserve, Dept of Treasury, and Dept of Justice

-20% reduction in budget and personnel of IRS, BAFTE, DEA, EPA, FCC, HHC, and OSHA

-Eliminate all "CZAR" appointees and staffs

I have no doubt that Obama is a Socialist. If anyone had bothered to read his books as I did they would have known, he revealed his mentors, family politics and told us all who he was in these publications. The man was never vetted by the press or exposed by the opposition candidate. How did this all happen? I say it is Political Correctness on the part of the so called Republican who ran against him and collusion by the press that is supposed to hold our politicians feet to the fire. He is doing all this damage for one simple reason. It is part of the plan to destroy this country and reform it as his own Fascist kingdom. Make no mistake about it folks, this man is the most dangerous enemy of liberty that has ever sat in the oval office. If he goes on unchecked the people may well have to resort to rebellion ( prescribed by the Constitution if the government becomes tyrannical) to regain what Patrick Henry described as this Jewel of LIBERTY. Samual Adams did not think it would be a dozen years after the forming of the United States before Americans would have to take up arms to defend their Liberty.

."Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one

who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it

but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are

inevitably ruined." -- Patrick Henry, speech of June 5 1788

What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not

warned from time to time that [the] people preserve the spirit of

resistance? Let them take arms...The tree of liberty must be

refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Col. William S. Smith, 1787

Get rid of ALL the ILK in Washington from "the community organizer" on down in the next election at this time and and maybe then we can rebuild America's reputation as the "shining city on a hill" that it was before this guy destroyed it.

Unfortunately, as we saw in 2010, the Ballot box does not really work. Even staunch "Tea Partiers" like Allen West caved, and began to speak POSITIVELY about the "debt crisis" (quotes, because I do not believe it was actually a crisis at all) compromise.

While I do not want to see Americans come to blows over this, I believe that there is nothing short of this sort of conflict that will result in permanent changes. As it was in the 1770's, so it is today. The only thing a bully understands is to return their bullying in kind.

What we are seeing today in the UK is an example of what happens when the bully's are in charge, and the majority does nothing to counteract their bullying. It seems that not only do these rioters think it is perfectly OK to foment violence, and to loot businesses, but they also feel safe becasue the public's means to protect themselves is gone thanks to the extremely strict gun laws. Do we really think some of these kids (and watch the videos, they are mostly kids) would be so eager to rush into an electronics store to steal big screen TV's if the owner were standing there with a 12 Gauge? I think not. Bully's do NOT stand up well to someone who is prepared and willing to defend themselves.

What does all this have to do with the question at hand? Resist...we ALL must resist this tyranical government. One or two people standing up for themselves, while probably good for a heartwarming story of heroism, just won't do it. Widespread refusal to bend to the will of the government is the ONLY thing that will work, and even then we would need to be prepared to fight. It is unlikely Big Brother will gie up easily. I suspect that some widespread coordinated effort to resist governments tyranny would result in early bloodshed, but would soon result in Big Brother backing off.

One problem we have with the Tea Party is there is NO central leadership (which is also a good thing about the Tea Party)...unless there is a COORDINATED RESISTANCE, we will continue to be frustrated.

The irony is "they" have more ballots/person than bullets. We, on the other hand, have only one vote.

It's time to change the diaper full of *&%$ that is covering Washington, BHO, and all of the other corrupt cronies.

Bullet or Ballot? Arm yourself accordingly for both.

When the ballot box fails, the Bullet prevails as is proving in other parts of the world. Unless we teach our youth the value of capitalism's freedom so they turn their backs on the socialism taught by the Education system from day one. We will not win via the ballot box. Entitlement is the prevailing disease (Example UK riots) that infects our youth, sadly parents who spoil their children are the carriers of the disease.

The 10 commandments are the best teacher if applied in the home and classroom.

This is the reason the liberal (socialist) democrats so dearly want to curtail our 2nd amendment rights. This is also the reason that the founding fathers saw fit to put it to law. If all else fails, it is the DUTY of true Americans to thwart any attempt at the overthrow of our constitutional government, by force, if necessary. I am locked and loaded, as many Americans did when Obama was sworn into office. The gun shops were doing one heck of a business. I do believe that Barack Obama has broken his oath of office to support and defend the constitution. I, on the other hand, along with all of our military, active and retired, are still held to our oaths, and will terminate without predjudice.

As the old saying goes, an individual first resorts to the ballot box. That failing, he resorts to the soapbox. As a last resort, he breaks out the bullet box. As I see it, Americans are to the point of standing on their soapboxes, grouping together under the banner of "The Tea Party." Obviously, this has politicians, especially those at the National level, in a blind panic, and are doing everything they can to shut the Tea Party down. If nothing else, the one positive thing to come out of the current situation is that Americans are reconnecting to their Constitution and thier History.

Let's just hope that, in the current stand-off, the politicians blink before the Tea Party does, or the current situation will look like a walk in the park by comparison.

I have little faith in the ballot box as some 40%-45% of our population does not pay taxes. These are not rich people, but rather a segment of our society that has discovered that they can vote themselves largesse from the public coffers. Heed the warnings from the UK.

I'm afraid that the situation will continue to devolve to the use of arms. I think that the government as an entity also realizes this as Communism/Socialism arise from chaos. Dictators cannot tolerate an armed society.

Mark,

We had always hoped we would never have to take arms against our own government but it seems as if that hope has been in vain. I see no other way to restore our constitutional republic than to take it back by force from those who are destroying it.

Bill

I have been seeing bullets since very early in this admin.

I really hate to say it but it will be bullets. I fear that we are too far gone and the agenda is executed to the level now that only a fight can thwart their nefarious plan. There are days that I watch the left execute their plan with the buzz words of socialism and the thinking of the Marxist regimes that have so miserably failed in the past and it feels as though my head will explode. I believe that God is in control so it is us, the Patriots of America that must pray for the strength of conviction and spirit for the fight ahead. God Bless the Patriot Post, God bless all patriots that see where we are headed and God bless the United States of America.

Julius

Is this Jeffersons' thoughts when he said that "The tree of liberty must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants? (To paraphrase)

I would hope the ballot box but I am not opposed to the alternative.

James Carvill may be correct in his prediction that the country is 'ripe' for a third party in 2012. Due to the incredibly low opinion that the voting public holds for Congress, there undoubtedly will be significant changes made in 2012 and it will probably hit both parties. Somewhere along the way, over the past 50 years, Congress lost sight of their true obligations. In my opinion, I believe it is because of too many lawyers in the mix.

Ross Perot was ahead of his time. Who can truly capture the mood of the people sufficiently to lead a third party? Perhaps Rick Perry??

Geithner responded, "Oh, absolutely not. You see, he {Obama} worked incredibly hard in making real incredibly [sic] progress trying to heal the damage made by this incredible crisis and you saw him work his heart out to try to bring both parties together to reach an agreement on the long-term fiscal deal."

An old Marine Colonel once counseled me, "Never confuse effort with results!" We Americans don't care about efforts if it doesn't produce results...

The ballot box is the front line defense and the "bullet box" is the reserve defense. It's the knowing when to bring in the reserve's in organized fashion...now that's the tricky part....

The economy is going just as he wants it to go - DOWN. He will become the most successful socialist president of the USA as America fails. We simply must stop him at the ballot box.

To Mark Alexander, your articles are always on target. Thank you in the names of all those died defending "Freedom".

"Liberty" is a very high priced special jewel, once you lose it to get it back will require a great spilling of a patriot blood"

the easiest solution is to impeach the president, and the sooner the better. His policies are taking us into the ground.

Bullets: Our future is a divided country one side Democratic and one that is Socialist with all the bleeding hearts. The Socialists side will devour itself in time and lead to another civil war as we fight to defend our right to freedom and what is ours from those who wish to take and share with those who want self gratification at the expense of us the working business owners who provide so much now. I for one am tired of sharing!! And I too wish for it to come to a head now so that my children and grandchildren can have the future we saw and held in our hands briefly as young adults.

Ballots or bullets? Impeachment is supposed to begin in the house. We took the house last year and there is not even a serious whisper of impeachment. This fraud has committed so many crimes against our country that every true conservative should be shouting, no, screaming for his impeachment and trial for treason. In light of the fact that even our Tea Party Republicans in the house are too timid to do the will of the people, it's looking more and more like the latter choice may be the only one.

I would rather do it by ballot, but am willing to do it with bullets. The bullet method gets messy and others may take advantage of the situation.

For starters we need a new President that will restore our Constitution and the faith of the American people.

Bullet or Ballot? Arm yourself accordingly for both.

Unless there is a DRAMATIC turn around in Nov. 12 there will be no choise but turn to the bullet box. We are very near the point of no return.

I'm not sure we can survive until Novemeber 2012.

Ballots or bullets?

Are you kidding me? If you look back over the last 70+ years you will see exactly where our ballot stuffing electorials got us. It's time to wake up America and smell the coffee, because the days of sitting on the fence and saying,"I refuse to take sides because, THE GOVERNMENT KNOWS BEST" is rapidly coming to a close.

First it started in the 1920's with Woodrow Wilson, then it was Roosevelt and his "idealalogical utopia"(to get us out of a depession)to be able have a "free" governmental controlled society, then, farther down the line it was Carter, Reagan, Clinton, BOTH Bushes and now this Imbicile?

There hasn't been a single president in the last century that has had this country's well being at the forefront of His agenda.

SO my question is, When are people going to take what was given to them by the founding leaders of this country, BACK from the inane and assinine politicos that have by either stealth, theft, or outright fraud stolen our rightful heritage.

How many of these so called Politicans have served in the armed forces? If I remember right, didn't you have to swear an oath to this OUR country to protect and serve, even IF it meant going against your own leaders in the rise of defense of what the constitution, Bill of Rights, etc. was designed to give to every man, woman, child, FREEDOM.

So how free is free, what do we as a nation of misguided sheep that has believed the garbage that the leaders of this country fed us over the years have to do? I for one will admit, the time of peaceful demonstration is over, why? because,

IT DOESN'T WORK AND NEVER HAS.

and that is all I will say on the matter.

Ballots or bullets? Impeachment is supposed to begin in the house. We took the house last year and there is not even a serious whisper of impeachment. This fraud has committed so many crimes against our country that every true conservative should be shouting, no, screaming for his impeachment and trial for treason. In light of the fact that even our Tea Party Republicans in the house are too timid to do the will of the people, it's looking more and more like the latter choice may be the only one.

It will come to bullets because he's working on stuffing the ballot boxes with 'migrant' votes by promising them the moon, at our expense.

Can someone tell me if it's even legal for the "Super Six" to be in charge? I thought the reason we have so many senators is for equal representation, but I guess this administration can do what it dang well pleases, as has been proven to us repeatedly.

Kerry and all the other blabber mouth Dems are liars, cheats and thieves. Who can believe anything they spew out of their addled brains. Ali Obama and his many thieves love the lies the media trot out against us.

Ballot box first - if that fails - then keep your powder dry and your backside covered.

I'm afraid it's bullets either way this goes.

It's difficult to imagine that this man can be re-elected in this economy and given his ineptitude, but if he is we will see a level of resistance to his socialist agenda heretofore not evident. There are a great many American's that will not just submit to this, and they will recognize the failure of the ballot box to preserve liberty.

Result: Bullets and the blood of Patriots.

What's really at play in the next election is not about Barack Obama. He is nothing but a failed President and a misguided fool. The next vote is really about whether America will allow capitalism to be completely destroyed in favor of socialism. If liberals are left in charge, I think every thinking person understands the consequences. Four more years of this and it's over.

The Great Society has failed, and no New Deal will resuscitate it. The support programs that have been put in place are broken, and broke. The giant sucking sound you hear is Big Government. Socialism doesn't work because sooner or later you run out of other people's money, and there is no money left to pacify the dependent culture that has been built without attacking private property and wealth. Take the monthly check away from the enormous class of totally dependent people that liberal programs have created and they will revolt (e.g. the riots in the UK, flash-mob violence here).

Buy gold if you want. It's not going to protect your home and family when these people no longer can depend upon their monthly check of "Obama Money".

Result: Bullets.

We have certainly been granted the fortune to live in interesting times, but we will be shaken to our core by the coming storm. America is in for turbulence not seen since the 1960's.

May it be God's will that liberty and true justice survives. Don't forget who's really in charge.

WE need to change leadership at the top.

I am waiting until after the 2012 election to do anything “radical” beyond trying to use the ballot box and my wallet as the vehicles for running ALL of the "Socialists" out of Washington on a rail, preferably tarred and feathered.

BUT... Just in case…

I am stocking up on ammunition for all of my second amendment guaranteed weaponry and visiting the shooting range much more often to sharpen my skills. (Southerners tend to have a varied array of hardware at our disposal for hunting). One way or the other we will put the brakes on the Socialists and when we do there will be riots like we are seeing in England now but the big difference here is the wisdom of our founding fathers. We are armed and able to defend OUR way of life and OUR property with deadly force.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

AMEN!

At just 45 years old, I have seen my country disappear before my eyes. I cannot beleive the blatant disregard and demonizing of our founding principles. I fear for the future and foresee serious conflict between patriotic "Constitutionalists" and the socialist/communist wave flowing through the US - perhaps leading to secession or even another civil war. Either way, the America I love appears to be lost forever.

The need to reform taxes, remove the IRS, the progressive tax. Replace with a Nat'l sales or flat tax tobe voted on by nat'l ballot every ten years. This will give monetary control to the electorate.

Reform the election system with term limits for all electees, salary only, no perks or retirements. Electees and appointees to be publicly audited every year in office for earnings and holdings, in order to put the civil back into public service with integrity.

All candidates to be on a trust but verify basis for credentials before elections. The election laws are enforceable, valid and Consitutional law supreme.

These simple items can be augmented but will restore confidence to the voters, taxpayers and public in general.

So here’s a new/old idea; accountability. Political correctness, enabled by a legal system seemingly devoid of common sense and empowering the least insightful among us to do unchecked harm, has so chained society’s ability to punish bad behavior that we think twice about even acknowledging the unacceptable for fear of incurring a vicious counter attack! “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”. Indeed. We better start doing something ...and it starts with allowing, once again, consequences to follow actions.

I think it is to late for the ballot Box

I'm a 76 year old Marine veteran of Korean service. My family history dates to 1650 on this continent.Some family member or members have fought in every war. (Proudly some fought for liberty with The Confederate States of America).

I stand ready to storm Washington and do a British, Burn, Baby, Burn.

I find it truly unfortunate that most likely; Americans will be required to take back our country through armed rebellion. Our current political process is clearly broken, and to simply "vote them out" would not solve the problem. With the current election cycle, to vote out every incumbant up for relection, would still leave enough "bad blood" to conaminate the fresh people before it could be cleared out. We need tax reform, and a balanced budget, as well as smaller government. When our elected officials hold closed door meetings, and call a rush vote in order to pass legislation that 70% of the country is opposed to, something is very wrong. Everyone in Washington must go, and any politician who fails to serve the public trust should be removed from office at the first opportunity!

I started stockpiling ammo since before the election. I pray that it is just wasted money on my part.

My fear is that some huge crisis will be manufactured, that is so horrendous, that even normally solid thinking people will accept disarmament.

I will `lose' my weapons and ammo first.

At just 45 years old, I have seen my country disappear before my eyes. I cannot beleive the blatant disregard and demonizing of our founding principles. I fear for the future and foresee serious conflict between patriotic "Constitutionalists" and the socialist/communist wave flowing through the US - perhaps leading to secession or even another civil war. Either way, the America I love appears to be lost forever.

I no longer have faith in our government. From my local all the way to Washington.

I believe the only option left with how the failures of our government, the justice system and our law enforcement to to take up arms against our domestic enemy's.

The name on the mailbox at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. would be a good start. Then the members of congress who cannot and will not embrace the Constitutional limits placed on the Federal government can go.

While doing voter registration during the last couple years, I've been told vocally and publicly, that voting isn't going to work and people were adopting a survivalist/revolutionary mentality. The fact is that both parties have a superiority complex about themselves vis-a-vis the American people. They feel entitled to rule, and have adopted a feudal caste system over the last 100 years, where politicians (and in many cases the law enforcement that serve them) live under a different set of laws than we do.

The Magna Carta wasn't signed until local barons threatened Prince John. Do any tyrants ever give up their power voluntarily?

Obama ran on CHANGE, so lets give him change at the Ballot box in 2012. Somehow we need to get people to vote him out of office, or bullets will fly, of this I'm sure. Don't want to see it, but I think the next election could get nasty.

We definitely need change, starting with the President , followed by about 3/4 of Congress. The Tea-Party Representatives, are the only ones that appear to be worth keeping. Starting a third party at this time, seems to be the only viable alternative to business as usual on "The Hill"

Apparently, words like terrorist, jihad, hostage, etc., come easily to the lips of Progressives and the Administration as they used the same tactics when shoving the health care "deform" down our throats. This neophyte man in office at the White House is dangerous. He was telling what he would do when he ran for the office of President of the United States. This may have been the only time he told the truth. I listened and got sick to my stomach. Others turned a deaf ear and ran to their mailboxes to check for their free money. Let's hope and pray to God the current debt crisis and subsequent downgrade will jolt Independents and more conservative Democrats to their senses. Forget the other zombies. They do not have a financial or moral stake in the welfare of the U.S. since they ARE on welfare for the most part. Big Daddy Government may suddenly disappoint them when the funds are cut -- if sane people who love this country prevail.

Sadly, bullets have become the only way to restore legitimate constitutional government in America. The majority of the voters are now wards of the State, either direct welfare clients, or working lackey bureaucrats of the State, or working for "captive" private companies dependent upon federal money for their existence.

The one remaining hope is that our military will take their constitutional oaths seriously enough to overthrow the "enemies, foreign or DOMESTIC" and restore the Constitution after purging Washington as Cromwell purged the Rump Parliament. The constitutional coup will have to be led by one stars and colonels, however, for two stars and up have become part of the problem. (It is no secret that worldwide, military coups are almost always led by the colonels, not the sycophantic generals.)

I weep for America. At my age, I will only have to witness a decade more or so of this slide to socialist oblivion, but my kids and grandchildren will never know freedom unless the military acts NOW!

Lets hope we change it by the Ballot box. If we can't then lets hope we have the courage to use the bullet box.

I believe that Obama is only a mouthpiece for a much larger socialist agenda being pushed by a behind the scenes group, possibly with Muslim connections or belonging to the One World Order which began with Bush 1, continued with Clinton, Bush 2 and possibly now with Obama. These are elites who believe they know best how to rule the world without individual countries. If the USA can be brought to its knees, the task becomes much easier and it looks like we are being brought to our knees, much quicker that anyone could have imagined. God help the USA.

Even talking about armed taking the country back by force of arms risks alienating the "moderates" and "independence" whose support we need to take it back peacefully. Events are building towards a possible massive repudiation of Obama and all he stands for in the November, 2012 election. If the Left is able to spread the word that the "racist," "terrorist" conservatives are talking about armed insurrection, Obama could be reelected. Stick to impassioned arguments. If somehow the treasonous catastrophe is reelected, there will be time to reevaluate everything.

What do Jane Fonda and Obummer have in common?

Any American with reason can figure it out, it

starts with T.............

I would not be in a hurry to call for bullets. However, if things don't change in 2012 and the current administration remains in office we may be called on to lock and load. The Constitution does not offer the means of change, it just says we have the right.

Sadly, I believe that it will come to bullets. Several people have brought up an interesting thought - that an artificial "crisis" will be created in order to force government's hand to martial law. What happens then? So, I guess the question is, "When do we start?" I believe that rebellion may be inevitable, and given that, who fires the first shot? Be prepared. 'Nuff said.

We are not sure if Obama is in fact an American citizen. Call me a birther, but all his information is sealed, why? If he proved to be non-citizen he is not a traitor. Only a citizen is traitorous.

Yes, Soetoro/Obama is a treasonous socialist, but Bush was a treasonous fascist. What's the difference? Right wing corruption or left wing corruption. Which is worse? Either way, the international bankers who own the Fed, own our President and Congress, own our news media and movie studios, still remain in control. Mayer Rothschild said he didn't care who makes a nation's laws as long as he printed the money. That's the core of our problem: The Fed. Mark my word. It's too late to solve our economic and social problems with the ballot box. The majority of Americans depend on government handouts which have bankrupted our nation, and made us fat, lazy, and stupid. They are not about to vote for any candidate for office who promises to restore fiscal sanity by ending all these subsidies and so-called entitlements. Therefore, the only option left to us, as was the case with the early patriots who, like us, comprised a small minority of the population at that time, is the cartridge box. Possibly massive civil disobedience on a scale like Egypt just experienced might work, but the evidence is that the new military authority there is no less corrupt than Mubarrak was. So I think we are on the eve of a very bloody revolution. Think about it: 45 million Americans receive food stamps. 40% of all income in America is government generated. The actual unemployment rate in America, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, is almost 33%. The only way the liars, thieves, and murderers in Washington D.C. come up with 9.8% is by not including the long term unemployed who have given up and are no longer seeking employment, plus figuring college educated employees working for minimum wage at McDonald's and such, even part-timers, as employed, plus lumping in together public sector unemployment figures, which are always very low, with private sector unemployment figures. Our politicians, whose main concern is getting reelected, are not about to alienate such a large percentage of their constituents by reducing or eliminating subsidies and entitlements, or doing anything else that would trim some fat off of our obese, bloated, government. So, they will continue borrowing and spending until the entire system collapses, and suddenly scores of millions of Americans will no longer be receiving food stamps, social security checks, AFDC, WIC, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. If you have the courage, try to see in your mind's eye the complete, utter chaos that will soon ensue when this happens. Blood will flow like a river in our larger cities. Mobs of armed, hungry, drug addicted people, mostly black and latino, will roam unrestricted in our cities and suburbs, willing to do anything to anyone in order to satisfy their hunger and get a fix. So the choice is not really the ballot box or the cartridge box. The real choice, at least for the time being, is whether we are prepared for the inevitable,...... or not.

Only if the ballot fails can we, justifiably and lawfully, resort to bullets. With all of the mistakes and downright illegalities of the Obama administration, the ballot box should do the job in 2012--if we work!

What we need to change is THE ADMINISTRATION and most of Congress. Read: Nov. 2012!

Personally, I believe that if I am to have liberty again in my lifetime, it will be restored by the bullet box. One glaring short-sightedness of our founding fathers is that they did not specifically preclude payments to individuals in any form.

The operating plan of the current democrat administration, like their socialist cousins in the 1930s Germany, is to tell big lies, tell them often and tell them loudly. Those state socialists were called Nazis and fascists. What is different about the current democrat administration? And why are they not being called what they are? Why do we allow the real fascists in Washington to call the patriotic tea party fascists?

I have thought for several years that the country is increasingly so politically polarized that another civil war is possible, even probable. Bullets? Unfortunately could happen.

How did Obama accumulate the wealth he now has? Did Stimulus money get siphoned off? Community Organizers don't get paid big salaries do they?

This administration only wants to win for a cause. The cause of liberalism plain and simple and its always been that way. So many political figures and people for that matter pretend to hate what they are. Biden and Pelosi love to spew that conservatives and the tea party dont care at all about the citizens of the United States and that they are simply fighting for a cause no matter the destruction and while we know that couldnt be further from the truth (When has truth ever stood in the way of a liberal with a cause) However liberalism's agenda has been exactly that for decades. Its not about America prospering, its never been that. Its wrapping up the same old historically failed ideology in new wrapping paper.

Washington is FULL of party lines egomaniacs who like to point fingers PLUS ALL are dysfrunctional. No matter who you put in office politicians will tell you what you what to hear BUT once in office everything fails and politicians DO NOT care about the people that put them up there BUT then again they all make $175,000 per year with FREE health care with retirement. Being a veteran, I would welcome BULLETS but I am also a Christian and I know who my maker is and I will continue to pray to him to help us. That is the problem with most of the general public, they are turning to Washington for help and that is the WRONG place to start.

If everyone on this list were to sign a petition that entailed all the things that we are talking about (term limits and such) and it were to circulate around this country and made available for the Republicans to present it to the House and Senate can it be made into a law? Time is short and if this can be done then we must start now. I fear if we wait for another year this country will most assurdly be beyond repair. As a veteran and have seen what bullets do I would prefer the ballot but rest assured I am ready with the bullets if needed.

Semper Fi

We have a debt because congress wants us to have a debt. We have a downgrade because congress wants us to have a downgrade. How do I know? Congress controls the purse strings and makes and pays the bills. No one else can do that not even the president unless he voteos any bill that cuts spending. Of course there is Harry Reid the obstructionist who makes bills dead on arrival in the senate. Every one of these jokes in congress except the freshman should be replaced. That includes the speaker of the house and the majority leader in the senate. They do not want this country out of debt or it would be.

I despirately do believe we need change - change the president and many members in congress. The ballot box is our best hope. I'm waiting to support some candidate who has some brains, lots of guts, fire in the belly, a US Constitution in one hand a Holy Bible in the other!

All of us should encourage each other to avoid violence. Violence was and is the communist technique of taking control, and we in America must not adopt their ways or tactics.

We need to press Washington on all fronts to cut the spending and follow the rule of law.

If all of us did this with all our friends and colleagues, we could send a clear message to Washington now. Clearly we need to use the ballot in November 2012 to clean up the Senate and the House and elect a new resident for the White House.

Its time for the American voting public to realize that the Democrats are not Santa Claus, & this excessive throwing away of taxpayer has to be cut drastically.

I don't have any desire to live in a socialist country. History has proven many times that socialism does'nt work.

Throw the thieves out of office!

Ballots at this point. If it gets any worse then we have an obligation to win back our country at any cost.

We need to clean up our CIA, so we can rely on a back up when we need our laws protected. They eat out of Obama's hands. He is in contempt of court, from being found guilty in may 2010 on 17 counts if getting into office through buying votes, lying about his qualtifications etc., and given 90 days to resign and get out of the white house.No one is enforcing our laws. Here is the Judges video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h0EdpvZ23s

This is very revelent to him spending our money.

Whose fault is it?

1. Bush Yes

2. Republicans Yes

3. Tea Party Yes

4. S & P Yes

5. Anybody but

Obama & friends Yes

I am an American Citizen that loves my country. I am not a racist, extremist, radical, terrorist or any other demeaning adjective that the Obama people use to describe people that disagree with their methods or lack thereof.

I am 69 years old and still working full time trying to take care of my family. I am tired of taking care of families that are too lazy to take care of themselves and want Obama to quit spreading the little wealth that I have worked hard for and saved a little. I think most Americans agree with me.

Here is an idea that only needs to grow legs and it doesn't require bullets (yet) but ballots: Whatever tax scheme we can adopt (flat tax etc) where everyone pays a percentage of their income, we then tax those revenues and first of all, pay the interest on our debt (this will restore faith in our creditors since we put them all in "first position").

Whatever is left we use for our military (first) and then entitlements on a weighted basis, ie. each entitlement is allowed a percentage of the pool, not a fixed dollar amount, just a percentage that is then divided up among the looters, er, recipients. Thus all "entitlements" get their "share" of the pool. Your Guvment check will vary based on our debt interest and the amount of tax revenue collected. So you would not be "guaranteed" a fixed amount each month, just your portion of whatever is left.

Not enough for you? Tough. Go get a job or start a business or do something to better your situation. Or go live in another country that has bigger national teets.

This way, everyone on both the right and the left get what they (say) they want. Entitlements continue (at least if there is any money left to pay for them) for our friends on the left, taxes are not raised so the right will be happier and maybe (just maybe) if so many people could not depend on a fixed amount from Uncle Sugar each month, and it can and will vary, maybe it will cause them to actually plan a budget (like all of us producers must do...if you have ever owned a business you easily understand that your income varies each month (week, year, whatever) and because of that you need to PLAN.

If the free money ain't so easy to come by and actually requires some thought/work to make it useful, maybe many people will tire of being a leech because it is just as much work as having a real job.

To make it really work, if you collect any kind of government assistance, you give up your right to vote until you get off of it. It is your choice, stand on your own and participate in our great republic, or sit on your ass with your hand out and waste the life that you have been blessed with.

Of course, this is just a very rough sketch so please feel free to help me flesh it out with your ideas and comments.

Ballot or bullet Box? No revolution in history has suceeded, except the one of 1775-1783, in providing people with true freedom and equal protection under law. An armed revolution now would only play into the hands of the evil and tyrannical as there are no Washingtons, Jeffersons or Franklins anymore to oversee our being a constitutional republic.

Pray for the ballot; stock up on the bullets.

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We need to change the politicians, one and all, with a few exceptions. Whether by ballot or bullet, it must be done.

The bullet box is the ONLY solution left, sadly. There is no repairing our institutions, there is no compromise with communists.

One must either kill a communist or be enslaved by them. My father knew this firsthand from fighting in Korea, Viet Nam, and the Cold War.

He didn't wage those wars and get 9 Purple Hearts for the Hell of it. It was stop them or be enslaved by them, the same deal the NAZIs offered the world. To have the communists seize power in a bloodless coup at home is unthinkable. I will not live under tyrants.

War is an ugly business, but the ugliest of business--that is reserved for the slaves of tyrants, those morally degraded people who will not rise up to their own defense, who will not break the shackles of their oppressors, the kind who think themselves so 'high minded' as to believe there is nothing worth fighting for.

One aspect of this that bothers me terribly is seeing good men leave the USofA, men like Jesse Ventura; he started a law suit against the TSA over their gross violations of law and invasions of our privacy. He stated publicly he would leave the USofA if his lawsuit is unsuccessful. Rather than resolve our problems however terrible the cost, such he would rather flee to Mexico or some other foreign land.

What have we become when that is a thinkable option?

We need not fear the legions of degenerates, our countrymen who espouse socialism. A small minority burning for freedom, fanning the flames, are more than match for those who shackle themselves.

Sean Valdrow

Really Angry Peasant

Ubi Libertas, Ibi Patria

I really don't think this mess is going to be solved at the ballot box. I heard yesterday that Acord got slapped with a ... wait for it ... $5000 fine for its role in fraud related to the 2008 election. Acorn has since filed for bankruptcy. This makes one wonder just how much other fraud went on. How can we win at the ballot box if there is so much rampant fraud. We've seen that the liberals will stop at nothing. The left-media just enables them. Sadly, it doesn't look like the vote will fix the problem for America.

How about we enforce laws on treason and impeachment, for starters.

We hope and pray that he gets voted out in 2012. This country cannot survive another four years of his incompetence and arrogance. Having said that I believe it may be necessary to, as Thomas Jefferson said, water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants.

We need to change all of the present residents of our government in DC.

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RE: Hamilton Wed.

"I have a request of you. Since MSNBC considers you to be "rich", please do this for me. Take your total tax paid for 2010 and divide it by your total gross income for the same year, and reply with the result. I'm wondering just what is your overall percentage tax you pay, as a "rich" person."

I can always count on you to make this old dog think. For that you are appreciated. You asked some questions, I shall attempt to answer. Yes, I am probably in the top 50% (Includes my wife's income.) We are both college educated. To include state taxes, we run around .50 of every dollar. It goes up if you include insurance. This crap of you only pay whatever and it is capped, Bill O'Reilly says he pays less than we do. Maybe we need his accountant.

This is out of hand. It is high for she owns a ranch in Arizona (inherited. the inheritance tax almost 30 years ago actually totaled more than the land was worth) and and we live out of state, but still... (this has nothing to do with this but this is why I'm not very partial to tax breaks for big business. Do to litigation I won't name the Copper mining company, they had BLM come in, condemn part of the land so they can mine copper. Now she has a large pool of diluted acid and no one to clean up the mess. they walked away from it. to be fair they still own the mineral rights." It kills the cattle, burns them and blinds them. Bachmann and others are against he EPA. Fine, now who is going to clean up their mess? In the South, there are coal mining companies that are just as bad.)

The next point, we cleared for each other, maybe.

"No one is holding the bottom 50% back. They have the promise of equality of opportunity, but they are not equal. Perhaps they don't have equal earning potential - but via no fault of their own, nor any fault of society or of government. It's due to the shifting and unpredictable currents of the gene pool. They may have lower earning potential, but unless they're judged "retarded", they do have the ability to work and succeed."

On this point I've stated they are the one that need not our pity but our help and understanding. These are the ones I do not mind helping with my tax dollars.

Yes, I want an equal playing field for those who can play. Now comes the question, do we help them with socialist programs such as medicare, help for those in this condition, whether it be by gene pool or an catastrophic accident? many times the families cannot take care of them.

My cousin has a moderate brain injury therefore he has a severe learning disability. It took him , I believe almost 5 years to do a two year course and only then with lots of help. He has his license and is an assistant minister. Of course he needed help and there are others through no fault of their own can't be help. I do not mind socialist programs for those in the latter category. What I do mind is the others.

I hope I explained my position. Keep me thinking, all of you. Watch "Soul Surfer," well worth the rental. Again, some individuals are born disabled, we need as individuals, religion, and society to help them, the others, such as the teenagers in my state, tribal members, give me a break.

This is for you, tribal members, they receive, at least the tribe I belong to, free medical, free dental, free school, free food, free individual houses, free education, free monthly checks. I, along with my cousins had chosen to walk away from this for i garners a welfare state and they believe they can keep on with the old ways. I've stated, times change, so the need to deal with it.

The people in power up in D.C. more and more resemble those in Europe the founding fathers came over here to get away from. I'm afraid it's going to take the same type of effort to get free of them now, as it did then....

Kerry has a good idea here, "The media has got to begin to not give equal time or equal balance to an absolutely absurd notion just because somebody asserts it or simply because somebody says something which everybody knows is not factual."

The problem is, if the media actually did this no democrat would ever be heard.

Perhaps others will be convinced as I that Obama is guilty of that which is not upholding nor defending our Constitution. He is inteligent, and crafty, make no mistake. If this nation is to survive it will not be without the Holy Bible, & God's providence. Those whom have understanding must also pitch in & do their part. I know not what course others may take but as for me, give me ballots, Bibles, & bullets.

Gonna have to apologize to all our military and those defending freedom in America from its beginning till now if we allow the libs to further destroy the America they all gave us. If the ballot box no longer works...then will there be enough patriots to make the necessary changes or will America become the Babylon of Rev 18. I know America will fail after the Rapture, but I am praying we can keep it from doing so until then.

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It isn't just the 535 morons in Congress, the White House and Courts we must throw out and replace, it is all of the Obama cronies who see nothing wrong with a reverse Robin Hood-Socialism, that also must be made into expatriates. I fear the ballot box has only become a symbol of the failed Republic as we collectively elected, or allowed them to be elected, the very cretins who have destroyed our once proud country. Perhaps it is time for other boxes to be opened.

I shudder to say this, but it appears bullets. Progressive socialist marxists are in both parties and well established. About 60% of the Democrats are progressives and about 40% of the Republicans are. It is with this understanding that I feel they will continue to move their agenda forward in the back rooms while we all watch the "theater" on camera. They want us divided and distracted while they complete their final power grab in the dark where we can not see. In the old days the voters could run their corrupt politicians out on a rail. Perhaps this method should be revisited.

"...and that a dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the forbidden appearance of zeal for the firmness and efficiency of government. History will teach us that the former has been found a much more certain road to the introduction of despotism than the latter, and that of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people; commencing demagogues, and ending tyrants." Federalist No. 1, General Introduction, Alexander Hamilton

For many years I’ve watched the forward march that my beloved United States has taken towards true democracy and away from republicanism. I, like many of my fellow patriots, felt powerless and alone in what seemed to us an overwhelming force of sheep who willing marched to the drum of despotism and mob rule. For that is truly what democracy leads too.

For generations the progressive left has slithered its way into our education system and media outlets and brain washed millions of sheep into believing that this country is a democracy, that the founding fathers were nothing but slave holding, misogynistic, rich white men protecting their fortunes and power. The capitalism and free market economies of this, the richest most powerful nation in the history of man is the root of all evil in the world and why so many people were poor and oppressed.

The majority of Americans knew this wasn’t true. We just didn’t realize we were still the majority, until Barak Hussein Obama was elected president and we saw the wolf take off his sheep’s skin and the progressive left begin to rapidly and openly work to destroy what was left of the Republic of the United States. The rise of the Tea Party demonstrated quite clearly that there is not as many cool-aid drinking sheep in America as we all thought.

We are now in an open struggle to save our country and the birthright of liberty and freedom bestowed upon us by our creator and codified in our Constitution. We are in a fight to save our children from themselves and the brain washing they’ve received. We are in a fight to save our very way of life and the future of freedom and liberty in the world. As Ronald Reagan said, “If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth.”

This is my answer to the call of patriotism I feel within my blood. My voice crying out in the wilderness of Americans, calling out for the end of progressivism and a return to the founding principles that made this country the greatest beacon of hope and freedom the world has ever known. This is our struggle in our time for a new American Revolution. We begin as our fore fathers did. We plead and argue with logic, truth and determination. We use diplomacy and the system to try to alter the course of events. We pray that our words and actions at the ballot box will redeem our liberty from the oppressive government that seeks to crush us. But like our fore fathers, we are prepared to take up arms in the defense of our liberties and water the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants. By ballot or bullet, we must be free!

Nemo me impune lacesset!

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Mr. Obama et al, get their marching orders from the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Federal Reserve. Globalization can't happen as long as the U.S. stands as a sovereign nation. It has to be taken down. Obama an incompetent? Don't bet on it. He is doing exactly as he is being told. If there is a 2012 election, which I doubt there will be, and Obama looses, there will be a crisis created between then and January 20th, 2013 that will cause Obama to declare martial law, and he will become the "dictator-in-chief". We will become the "Late, Great, USA"!

I have often said in jest that things will not change in America till Americans quit pulling the ballot handle and start pulling the triggers. Sorry to say there might be some truth in that.

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What needs to change is the attitude of many of our citizens. Too many people think they have the "right" to have their every need met by someone else. All I want to do is be able to support myself. I'm a grown-up; I don't need a nanny.

The most important and major changes I pray for is a complete change of Senate members as well as the socialist and suspected illegal occupant of the white house.

Repeal all legislation that has "O" fingerprints on it and this Congress.

Most importantly repeal OBAMACARE the Socialist curse we face.

The fastest way to correct Obamas socialism is to IMPEACH him. We will survive him but he will go down in history as by far the WORST PRESIDENT in our nations history. Its just too bad we can't just arrest him and put him in Guantanomo where he belongs.

Master Chief

I will defend my country by any means necessary. I prefer the ballot but if the socialists want my bullets, so be it.

...... against all enemies foreign or domestic.

I'm with you chief.

Abu Nudnik

Talk of bullets undermines the right's credibility. Please stop.

Hopefully the talk of bullets will let the usurpers know that we are serious. If they don't stop their evil ways, we will stop them. And it won't be pretty

What we need to change is the occupant of the Oval Office, the Senate Majority Leader, the Senate Minority Leader, the House Minority Leader, possibly the House Majority Leader, most of the occupants of the Senate and a lot of the House, and pretty much the entire administration, Cabinet and regulatory agencies. The traitors have been committing treason over and over, living the high life at our expense, and making the foolish (like my delusional child) believe it has to be this way.

The current Administration and 51% of the Senate.

This is for Ol'Joe....There are plenty of men in this republic who can measure up to the original founders....the idea of forming a new republic is not the issue. We already have a GRAND REPUBLIC it just needs to be cleansed of the those regulations and laws which do not match the founding documents, also the leaders which do not subscribe to the sanctity of Constitutional Law need to be replaced with leadership which does. Everything which made this the greatest nation on the face of the globe are in those founding documents. My take is, if the ballot canot bring us back to Constitutional Law,

then the bullet must, or there will not be a GRAND REPUBLIC for our grand children.......and that's a fight I'm willing to make.

Without a doubt, the change that this nation needs is to return to the principles of the Constitution. In doing so we will eliminate ALL of the agencies, departments, bureaucracies, etc. that are costing us more than is collected in normal taxation. It will also eliminate the policies that promote a welfare mentality in so many American minds today. Failure to make this immediate change will result in failure of this nation!!!

Since we can no longer trust the voting in this country thanks to liberals giving everyone, citizen or not, the right to vote, I fear the only way we will be able to return this nation to a Federal Republic is by bullets.

At one time, I truly feared a military coup in this country; now I am finding myself almost wishing for it; however, considering the dunderheads currently in the Pentagon, I am not so sure about that anymore.

One thing I am sure of, there are only 435 voices in Washington that are making decisions for the rest of us; it is time to change that picture.

There is no doubt the democrats "workshopped" to come up with the term "tea party downgrade" and launch it over the weekend. They did the same thing with the word "gravitas" during the 2000 election. A word hardly ever used was suddenly dominating the talk shows on which democrats appeared.

Change??? How obviuos does it get?

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it." B.Obama

Change the greatest nation in the history of the world?? I knew he was screwed in the head but....

"Life's tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid" John Wayne

Change the man in the whitehouse before it is to late. His change is not what we need.

A nation is rising up to put down tyrrany. Americans have long been slow to rise up, but the peril is evident. Should the ballot box fail, well, precious freedom requires the "teeth" that George Washington prescribes for tyrants in our midst. For those who are left, exile to a coercive utopia - one-way tickets only - of their choice. North Korea, perhaps, or balmy, dysfunctional Cuba. ¡Viva Fidel!

Based on the infamous Newsweek cover, "We Are All Socialists Now", after Obama was elected, I would offer, "We Are All Greeks Now", or "We Are All Brits Now", as fire in the streets seems to be the coming trend.

Ballot or Bullet? We need only look at the rhetoric of the left in recent weeks, calling the Tea Party, "Terrorists", "Hostage takers", "Put a gun to America's head", "Extremists", "Waging Jihad", etc. Mitt Romney was ambushed earlier today by leftist agitators shouting him down in Iowa.

A White House strategist had announced *just the day before* that Romney was going to be "killed" politically in a concerted campaign.

God help us all.

TDawson asked,

"Look up Isaac Davis and his Minutemen, who had not a man among them afraid to go. Ask yourself a hard question. Would you face a professional army to defend your Liberty?"

I'm one among many commenters here who already have, from Korea and Viet Nam to the Middle East.

And that was out of a sense of duty, half a world away... not defending the homeplace. If liberals in and out of government want to taste unbridled viciousness, keep pushing. Throughout history, the cruelest of wars have been the civil wars.

History is not just something that happened to other people long ago... we're smack in the middle of it right now.

Get rid of the Treasury secetary: Hire a CPA, conpany to pay our bills, appreate etc.to be a collection agency for our money. Pay them the same as they would charge a private firm. Give the people a quaterly account of expendures. All bills would have to be approved by the majority of both houses, before they are paid.

Money trail:

#-1 Egypt 400, million to rebuild. reciently. 2 billion after his elaberate trip there,in 2010. Now he says we need to forgive the debt as the people are hurting.

#-2 Shore up the banks they have taken over. 2009-10

AIG bailed out, and now belongs to the Muslem brotherhood. They (Clintons, Gore, Obama, Rezco,

Carter, etc. have set up a, shares acount in London, called CXX to buy and sell carbon emision,

credits and stand to make trillions when they get the green house bill through. Shares accounts run by AIG, and banked by Goldman Sachs, and Obama's kept in trust at the Joyce Foundation, until he gets out of office.

#3: 800 million to the UN for overseas abortions. This is beside other money thay say we owe. Now run by Muslems. We need out and to shore up Nato.

#3-Five drones to Pakastan for helping us??? plus billions of dollars. They who just allowed our elite seals helicopter to be shot down.

#4-5, million to Chevez to get relected.

#5-Billions to build 120 concentration camps for citizens as soon as he can get a reason to call for martial law. The Tea Party is his scape goat. Reed says, All Americans are terrorists. Winapaga.

#7 His 2010 trip to Egypt cost more then the whole Irque war.

8- after this new rise in debt, 400, million to Palistine. Getting the Picture????

There is more, I have 5,000 articles, I have to go through to get all of the documentries. Muslim, Communist/ Marxis, all of the same idology, use our money to destroy us. The only job creation is to build our infrstructure for their Military movements, and to unions, Planned Parenthood, ACLU (communist organization) 125 people on his staff mtaking care of apointments, parties, vacations, meals, shopping etc. , plus all of his zars at elobrate wages. MORE: E-mail me for proof.

Republicans must regain control of both houses of congress and the White House. When we do so we must then eviscerate the regulatory bureaucracy that has prevented business growth. If I were President I would phase out the Education, Commerce, and Energy depts., cut federal employment 20% as quickly as possible, freeze hiring, fire most of the employees at the EPA, repeal Obamacare and Dodd-Frank, and fire Bernanke.

Then we eliminate WIC and other programs that pay women to eithr have children or abortions, stop giving food stamps or any other benefits for illegal aliens, and pass the 28th amendment requiring congress to be bound by the laws they pass affecting all of us.

That will be a good start.

A nation is rising up to put down tyrrany. Americans have long been slow to rise up, but the peril is evident. Should the ballot box fail, well, precious freedom requires the "teeth" that George Washington prescribes for tyrants in our midst. For those who are left, exile to a coercive utopia - one-way tickets only - of their choice. North Korea, perhaps, or balmy, dysfunctional Cuba. ¡Viva Fidel!

Not one dollar over the border. Not anywhere. Close the State Department's checking account. Tax every dollar of private or corporate donations going to any foreign country at 90%. No more buyoffs in the name of world peace. Let them shoot each other. We have bigger problems right here at home - or do you think there won't be bloodshed in the streets when there's no more money for "entitlements".

Bring the troops home and set them on our borders with orders to kill anyone trying to evade a legal entry point. It's long past time to take an easy view of things. If any alien, for whatever reason, breaks any of our laws, take them to the nearest border and toss them out. That includes anyone connected with the UN. We are at war, and, because we allowed these attacks from within, we may not be able to survive this one. It's time we woke up and realized that.

Freedom is not free, and thanks to our so-called representatives, we may have to win it again, just from a different tyranny.

If the ballot does not work - draw your own conclusions!

WOW, Seems like They have no problem using the word terrorist and Hezbollah to describe US politicians but not young muslim men that detonate them selves among the innocent

When are those politians on the left going to realize that the "TeaParty"is the people? They are both Democrat and Republican. They are "We the People" Do they forget, that "We the People" are the ones who pay their salaries and that we put them where they are? We cannot and will not stand by while they ruin our country beyond repair.

Ballot first, then .....

We need to get the FBI to go in and arrest the whole group for treason. They have a group now that wants him out of there. They say he has controll over the CIA. He is in contempt of law.

If they can provoke an uprising as they did in Ehypt and all of those countries, they will call martial law, and blackout. They already have the IN and our millitary waiting with everything including missals, for AN UPRISING TO START.

We have to get them out leagely first. Obama is in contempt of the law right now for 17 counts and not our legal President. If someone could get this to retired Millitary, and the right people, we could get their help. Obama has military with NWO ideas, and he feels all powerful. E-mail me at nanneyhelen@aol.com for proof of his legal birth at Kenya, the money trail, ck out militay movments across America on u-tube, I have proof from the INEA he had them keep quiet about the danger of the .4 nuclear reactor since early June 2011. The whole area of the Missouri, Missippi, Montana where the three rivers connect, to the Ocean, food, people, land and water are contaminated. All of the news is slanted, or censored, even in that area.

Thomas Jefferson said it best when he said, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

If the Liberals are not eradicated from power with the 2012 elections then it will be time to consider seriously Thomas Jefferson's words.

Thomas Jefferson was right 200 years ago and his words ring true today. What's next? The clock is moving.

I hope America can be restored by the ballot box. If not, the socialists, both media & political, should be aware of what happens when you take an American's country from him or her. Rage...a rage that says you may have taken my country from me but you shall never have her. There will not be a hole deep enough or a wall thick enough to hide behind. Socialists will pay and pay so dearly that we may end up being ashamed of ourselves. Without my country I consider myself a dead man walking, and have nothing to lose. Semper Fi, to God, Country & Corps

Sgt. USMC/1833/RVN 65-66

This anti-american terrorist regime has done more in 2 1/2 yra to destroy this country than Bin Laden and his cohorts could only dream of doing.....

Greetings Mark Alexander,

Love the "Patriot Post", love your essays. Going to kid with you as little, here. From a word usage point of view, should you have written, "Planet Earth to Obama", and not "Earth to Planet Obama"? Naming a planetary body, in whatever solar system, after that...human...is a grave insult to planetary bodies everywhere. LOL.

Keep up the good work.

God Bless you and yours,

Donovan Quesenberry

Trinity, NC

Please...Please tell all your nieghbors and friends to educate themselves on the issues and VOTE!

What has to change is the make up of the current congress. Those currently in office ARE the problem, vote them out.

It is time for a constitutional amendment setting term limits for those holding public office from the local school board to the white house. VOTE!

well thats a real simple question,heres the answer ballots or else this nation will no longer exist.its what makes us greater than any other nation on the planet.

FOR TOOO MANY YEARS, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT FILL THEIR POCKETS,,,YES, FILLED THEIR POCKETS FORM THE RECTUM OF SPECIAL INTEREST.

ITS TIME TO STOP THIS FAKE HOLLOWWEEN POLITICS. THIS SUPPOSED DEBT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCHARGED, PER THEIR CONTRACT FROM 1929 TO 1933 OF GIVING OUR MONEY AWAY TO FOREIGN INTEREST. THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL, THAT OUR COUNTRY AND ITS POSTERITY CAN BE HELD LIABLE FOR A FAKE DEBT...GOD HELP US ALL...TC

Pundits are saying that Obama just doesn't seem to be hearing what the people want .... he hears, but he just ignores it because things are going just the way he wants..... out in 2012 .. one way or the other.

I suppose calling the Tea Party terrorists is better than calling them Nazi's. That's progress, I guess. But maybe not. In the words of the most famous Nazi of all:

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."

Adolf Hitler

Change you can believe in. Yes they have killed the fatted calf. and the fire has been lit and the flame is getting white hot! the ballot box has never meant more than it does now. it is last best chance for the people to take back their country a call to arms is not out of the question by all that we hold dear. liberty burns hot in the breast of freedom. it will prevail.

Good essay by Alexander on 8/11 showing the lockstep left media trying to blame the Tea Party for the downgrade that is the fault of the left. But the suggestion of "bullets" and "arms" was, I think, unnecessary and intemperate.

Pre. Obama is right. It is time to put the welfare of the country above politics. The question is, when will he and the Democratic congress do this. The american people know that we can not continue living on credit. Eventually the bill mist be paid and the longer we wait the harder it will be to pay it. We say no to spending, Pres. Obama and the Dems say we must keep spending. They never heard the expression "when you've dug yourself into a hole, have sense enough to stop digging'.

Pete B.

Preferably the ballot. But if not, I'll defend the constitution with my life. My powder is dry.

Everybody is talkling about real hope and change come the election of November 2012. As much damage as has already and been done, and with little over 14 months left - I just pray that there IS an election in 2012. If people don't wake up soon, it may be to late.

His summation was the closest real solution that has been presented; i.e., quote by Thomas Jefferson…

Last but not least, I thought it was the best part of the entire article!

Unfortunately, this IS the only real solution as our Federal Government is corrupt to the core! In country boy terms; it is consumed by a cancer which cannot be removed without killing the patient!

There is much focus on the ills visited on our country by Obama and his minions in Congress. It is clear they have caused, and continue to cause, great damage to our Republic. However, I am afraid that rather than being the root cause of our woes, they only represent a symptom of a deeper underlying malaise.

We must recall that there were 53% of our fellow citizens that voted Obama into office, and similar percentages that elected the Democratic Senators and Congressmen. We may be successful in moving a few percentage points of the vote across the line in our direction in 2012. This would certainly achieve some relief from the current administration, but I’m afraid that without a deeper change in our country that relief would be temporary at best.

We’ve all seen how the so-called independent voters sway in the winds of public perception from one election cycle to the next. Yet, over the past 75 years or so the prevailing direction of our country has been to the left. We have had all too brief periods when we have clawed back some liberty from the state for a time, but the overall trend is disheartening to say the least.

So what is the plan to change the hearts and minds of those of us who value the coddling embrace of a socialist state over essential liberty? I see no ready means to accomplish that task. We may have a short term victory in 2012, but unless we change the prevailing view among so many of us we will not achieve a fundamental reversal of that long term trend.

Thus, I believe there will come a time when those of us who value the foundational principles of our great Republic will need to determine when this government has become so destructive of our life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness that we must employ the solution of last resort. I am not certain when this time will come, but with deep regret I must tell you that I believe that time will come.

While I hope for the best, I must prepare for the worst. I advise my fellow patriots to do likewise.

We must be prepared to restore it either way. Hopefully at the ballot box, but with force, if necessary. That is why the Founding Fathers gave us the Second Amendment.

Hoping that it does not come to this but, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." Thomas Jefferson

Bullet box, while we still have something to shoot with.

Once again, they show the weakness of their argument:

I have the right to decide whether or not to terminate my unborn child's life, but not the right to decide whether or not they get circumcised or vaccinated, not what they eat or when they play or how they get educated.

I have the right to a job, but not the right to decide whether or not to join a union, where I work, how I work, and what to do with the profits from my labor.

I have the right to a cell phone, but not the right to use that cell phone whilst driving or walking at my own peril.

I have the right to medical care, but not the right to decide how to eat, what to eat, and how to take care of my body with exercise, I need them to tell me all that.

I have the right to vote, but if I vote for someone that disagrees with their view of society, they will call that person a terrorist, hostage-taker, or the Queen of Rage and whine when my candidate returns fire.

I want to believe in this country, but there are so many stupid, whiny, needy people who don't care about logic, fairness, and the freedoms I hold dear. I have a feeling we are swiftly losing our freedom to security, and plenty of people in this country deserve it.

You keep printing Jefferson's "What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Dangerous words. Who exactly do you expect us to go out and assassinate? What buildings shall we firebomb?

Some wingnut will take you up on it.

(I'm on YOUR side, but tone down the rhetoric!)

I agree with the idea,The tree of liberty must be nurished,with the blood of Tyrants,and Patriots from time to time.

The present regime,is the most tyranical,since clinton.It is worse.You could see it's arogance on the campaign trail.The visit to the Shanksville,PA.site,where McCain laid a rose,at the foot of the memorial.The keynan kook,casually tossed his rose.That said it all to me!

Senator Kerry's comments about the Tea Party responsibility in this downgrade reminds us of his false testimony to the senate committee in April 1971.

We need to change the president.

Mr. Jefferson said it way better than I can.

Paul B.

And in keeping with the spirit of American Patriotism, if the ballot option does not work, one might recall the words of old Tom Jefferson: "God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. ... What country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that the people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

bullets and buckshot are ballots too

I'd prefer the ballot box, but my bullet box is well stocked just in case.

Soap Box, Ballot Box, Cartridge Box

One Man, One Voice, One Shot.

I'm guessing we'll give the ballot box ONE more chance, and that's it.

As I write, super-wealthy elitist leftists are gathering here on Martha's Vineyard to sponsor a fundraiser for their Messiah, who will arrive next week for yet another vacation.

The list of names includes such luminaries as Alan Dershowitz, Geraldine Brooks,Alexandra Styron, Rose Styron, Charles Ogletree and Richard North Patterson. It is billed as "Voices for Obama", and slated to take place August 18th at Union Chapel in Oak Bluffs. I'm sure they will be the loudest and most shrill voices of the radical Left, and they will, as always, only be talking to themselves.

I am a native born Vineyarder, but desperately want to clear out of here, and flee to a Red state. I only hope they will accept me as a political refugee once I can sell my property here!

I completely disagree with your take on Obama's economic policies. However, in a free country that's our right.

What isn't right is calling for armed insurrection. Unless I missed a recent takeover by a foreign power, the current administration was elected by a majority of the participating citizenry.

Organize and take your chances electorally in 2012. Stop talking treason.

The damage that will prevail with another term of Obamanomics will likely cause further downgrading of the nation's credit rating. Socialism has always resulted in poverty for all...except for the rulers.

1) Pray.

2) Pay your taxes.

3) Vote.

4) Buy more ammo.

I will always try the ballot box first rather than the alternate bloodier path. However, I want it clear that if it takes bullets in the end that is what will happen. Like the economy BO does not realize how many shooters would love to see him in their rifle scopes. That is why the Secret Service has had to increase his security 400% over previous presidents.

Sweet tea is a coming hurry on home! Vote the bad guys out in 2012! Love DG

Essential Liberty will not survive another term from this administration or congress; and the court aggravates poor leadership with biased decisions, legislating from the bench.

We must have leaders who will lead with selfless, patriotic values. The Constitution and the intentions of the Founders are still our best guides.

If we do not turn this nation around so that our government is limited to its Constitutional responsibilities - then we must consider a revolution to return our nation to the people who love and will work and sacrifice for the freedom it was designed to protect.

We need to pray and contemplate the costs involved to restore this great nation, or we and the world will suffer under tyrranical leaders who have evil intentions for personal power, position, and possession at the expense of the people.

Tragically, there will be blood spilled unless God intervenes to turn this nation around. And I do not see any signs of divine intervention. Most leaders are so engulfed in the systematic personal advantages of government power, and our so-called education system is teaching generations of people to ridicule and to oppose Constitutional values.

I agree, Jefferson said it best!

I believe that it hass now gotten so far out of hand, it is a time for bullets.

I do not want it to be, but the politicians (both sides of the isle) on Capitol Hill are completely out of touch with any kind of common sense. We need real people in office not career politicians.

Promote the ballot, but prepare for bullets. The brushfires of freedom have been set. Now is the time or there may never be another time.

We need to change Congress and the Obama administration.

Those who decry & distort the so-called sins of the Tea Partyers the worst are usually the most guilty of the very sins they seem to be concerned about. With our US population at 310 million, these 87 Tea Party freshmen represent ~ 62 million of the population districts of our country - not a small number! What they are the most fearful of is that this conservative House majority will become even greater, spreading to the Senate, and ultimately to the Presidency. Elections have consequences, as Obama said many times when his super-party ruled Congress for 2 years. So the name of the Dem's game is to slander and demonize anyone and everyone in hopes of regaining the 2009-2010 glory years, and the Presidency again in 2012. If this happens, you better be near a life boat on the USS Titanic.

A State of Idaho legistator sent to Washington to represent that State once said in a speach that Americans had three methods of getting the attention of their Reps in Washinton. 1 - The Soap Box 2 - The Ballot Box and 3 - The Bullet Box. We seem to be somewhere between the last two options.

JN

I believe that there is a major lack of wisdom in our elected leaders today and for the last hundred years. Our leaders have passed law after law that continue to violate the constitutional law of the land. Apparantly, the progressives discovered that there is no real punishment for passing unconstitutional laws. They will continue attempting to take away the freedom and liberty our founders once new, until we make it an act of treason for any politician to pass legislation that exceeds its authority given in the constitution.

Hopefully it will be the ballot box in 2012. If this doesn't happen then sad to say the unthinkable could happen. Pray it doesn't.

We can keep up the pressure on our Senators and Congressman to reduce the size of government and spending. I am afraid that we are going to have to "gut it out" til the elections when hopefully BHO will be turned out of office. Had Boehner and team not capitulated and come up with the Plan which BHO so gleefully approved, we could have had gridlock until the election which given the totallity of the circumstances, might not have been so bad. Thanks to this "agreement" if there is gridlock, we go into default. I am not as concerned about the cuts prepackaged in the Budget Bill relating to medicare, but I am very concerned about the rather deep cuts for the military. I am sure Obama is laughing "all the way to the bank" on this one.

We need to change president and congress controlling party!!! The demos are killing us!

Ballots or Bullets?

Once upon a time, a fellow named Allende was voted President of Chile. With Communist backing, he began fundamentally transforming Chile into a Communist Dictatorship. The judiciary of Chile, recognizing this was unconstitutional, asked the military to step in and uphold their oath to uphold and defend their lawful form of government. Then things got bloody - communists never, ever go away quietly. Sadly, they had a lot of "youth" enamored with "revolution" ready to go onto the streets and get themselves killed as the military did its sworn duty in restoring lawful, legitimate government.

Bad rerun anyone?

This time, however, the Communists have stacked the Supreme Court with their people to ensure that at least that body won't be the one to proclaim, "this is not legal under our Constitution and it's time the oath of office takes effect."

This time, at least, they have that angle covered.

Let us pray that the Representatives of the American People can reverse this illegal transformation to Socialism.

Woops... "Super Congress" created to bypass the Representatives. Looks like they got that angle covered too...

It's no secret the Communist Party USA worked hard to get Barack Hussein Obama elected. Now the "fundamental transformation" is well underway.

Face it - the Communists have won the Cold War.

We need to elect a new conservative President in 2012 and reduce the size of our federal government starting with the elimination of the IRS, Dept of ED., Dept. of Homeland Security, TSA,Federal Reserve, and if it doesn't start showing a profit, the US Mail Service. These are just a few of the departments and there are several more.

This country needs to shrink the size of government and the give away programs so that the tax rates can be reduced to let the working people retain more of their money.

If this doe not happen and this RADICAL MORON is re-elected, then we will have to resort to WAR in the streets to take back our liberties given to us in our Constitution.

I took my oath in 1950 when I was a junior in high school. I became a member of the U. S. Army Reserves and served stateside during the Korean War. That oath has not been recinded nor canceled and is still binding. I much prefer the ballot box but at 78 will still do whatever is necessary to defend my country.

Have felt all along Obama knows exactly what he's doing. Trying to break this country financially and he's doing a fine job with the help of both parties. Next election will tell us how many Americans care more about their country than themselves. Our elected representatives need to hear from all of us, "You do not compromise with socialism". Joe

OVERTHROWOBAMA&THETRAITORSDEMOCRATSISTHEONLYOPTIONTOSAVEOURNATIONAGAINSTCOMMUNISM.ELIMINATETHECOMMUNISTSSUPPORTERSFORTREASON&HIGHCRIMES.

I prefere prayer and the ballot. If that fails I will consider the bullet. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

I'd prefer the ballot box, but my bullet box is well stocked just in case.

At this point in the game, for me, it's a question of which would be quickest. Ballots or bullets, just let's "git ur done".

Unless more Americans wake up to the fact that Republicans and Democrats are, for the most part, merely two sides of the same corrupt coin, I believe the situation will ultimately have to be resolved by bullets. We must abolish the Federal Reserve, the I.R.S, the Department of "Education," and most federal agencies, and end all welfare Ponzi schemes or things will not change. They will get worse. Obama, Boehner, Reid, Pelosi, and most of the people in Congress are figureheads. They do not represent us and are, instead, beholden to the owners of the Federal Reserve, the so-called New World Order folks. Thanks, Patriot Post, for getting the truth out!

I still say if two million armed men were to march on Washington and demand the Senate go back on Social Security and Medicare and put Social Security back in a secured fund like it was originally. There is nothing that could be done to stop it. There aren't enough cops or Guardsmen in the Nation to over come a mob like that. They would have to obide. There is well over a hundred million hunters in this country. It shouldn't be hard to get at least two million to make the march right now.

I would hope the Ballot Bax will do the Trick, to get the Country back on track, and reverse the Socilist Trend Obama has bee following. But I have been hearing and Believe it to be a Posibility that the Bullet Box may be well in the realm of consideration, I truly hope this does not transpire but I would not rule it out.

We may have already passed the point of no return regarding the corruption of our country, our constitution and our own morality. Indeed, our position must require bullets, not ballots if we go beyond the 2012 elections with no relief from the current adiminstration's blocking of freedom.

Having read and thoroughly digested

G. Edward Griffins fine book, "The Creature from Jekyll Island". I'm aware that the "Fabian" Socialists, via the Federal Reserve, have been hard at work trying to undermine the USA and its Constitution for almost 100 years now. I am already "locked and loaded". I do not believe that

Americans will retain our freedom without the shedding of blood.

Obama will only retain office via some "Reichstag Fire" type incident.

cheers, R.B. St.Louis

I don't think we're quite to the 'bullet' option but it may be close, and I also think that the first shots fired will be by the Socialists, it's their way and always has been, it may even be that they are already waging the war against America, I don't think the 'flash mob' phenomena is just a passing thing, I really believe this IS the 'army' barry has been building since his immaculation. If it comes to violence it WILL be because the left simply can't wait for due process, in which case I know where I'll be standing.

What we need to change? We need to deeply cut spending, extend tax cuts, repeal Obamacare, and eliminate the plethora of govenrment regulations which discurage small business start-ups. It's as simple as that.

Fortunately our founders scored another first, perpetual revolution. We do not need bullets to continue the American Revolution, ballots will do nicely as the founders intended. Frequent elections are the antidote to democratic tyranny. Unfortunately an educated polity is also necessary for a successful revolution and on that front we conservatives are outgunned by the progressive propaganda industry. Our efforts must be directed at countering progressive propaganda with the truth as we see it. We can convince a majority of the population of the rightness of our cause but we can not take for granted that the newly converted will not backslide under the unrelenting demagoging of the progressive propaganda industry. It is time we developed our own propaganda organs. However, we must not degrade ourselves by twisting truth to suit message. We must stick to the facts and the true history of our nation and movement. The current political climate is our best opportunity to reverse the effects of a century of progressive failures. Ballots will win the contest but just in case, keep your powder dry.

I don't think we're quite to the 'bullet' option but it may be close, and I also think that the first shots fired will be by the Socialists, it's their way and always has been, it may even be that they are already waging the war against America, I don't think the 'flash mob' phenomena is just a passing thing, I really believe this IS the 'army' barry has been building since his immaculation. If it comes to violence it WILL be because the left simply can't wait for due process, in which case I know where I'll be standing.

The First thing we need to change is the entire membership of the US Government, But that isn't going to happen, Seriously Get Obama out of George Sorros Grip and teach him to speak withoiut a hand on the Strings of his Mouth. President Obama has done nothing to lead the Country in a Constitutional Way, he has however managed to destroy the Country which is what Sorros set out to do, using Obama as a Puppet.

Abolist the IRS Replace it with the Fair Tax drop Capitol Gains to ZERO and Leave the Business world alone. Allow them to do what they do best, create Jobs and Wealth for the Country.

Standard and Poor downgraded our national debt, largely as a result of the administration's intransigence on spending. The market crashed, wiping out three trillion dollars of wealth in ten days. The president's response: raise taxes on the folks who just lost three trillion dollars as a result of his policies, and increase spending by funding Shovel Ready II, a new infrastructure bank.

When a business hits rough terrain intelligent managers look at every aspect of the business to improve productivity and the bottom line. Zero budget improvement programs are steps taken that reduce costs, improve procedures or satisfy new regulations with, duh, no cash expenditures. A well designed program will improve the company's prospects for survival. Zero budget programs are not the glamorous high visibility productions that garner huge bonuses for upper management. Rather they consist of common sense analysis of existing process or procedures that individually yield small but significant returns that aggregate into substantial improvements in the company's health and well being. As often as not the ideas originate on the production floor with the people most intimately familiar with the problem. So, here goes, a zero budget prosperity program for the United States of America. This is not a permanent solution to the debt crisis or a cure for the century of failed progressive policies inflicted upon us. This will alleviate current suffering, much as an aspirin will temporarily relieve an aching back.

Repeal Obamacare: this first step will save billions in current appropriations and a trillion over the next decade. Call this one a valentine for S&P

Make the current tax rates permanent. Predictable tax policy makes business planning possible, you can not plan based upon assumptions that may or may not hold true. Uncertainty constricts future plans.

Repeal Dodd-Frank: this massive incoherent jumble of improperly delegated authority will strangle business for decades, adding untold billions to the cost of doing business and costing us more billions to promulgate and enforce the multitude of rules created in response to this misbegotten messterpiece. Savings to government: hundreds of billions, savings to the economy, trillions.

Repeal Davis Bacon: The construction unions will howl. Ultimately more people will find employment as a result of true competitive bidding on government construction projects. Lower cost projects is the zero budget way to fund an infrastructure bank. No new taxes, no increase in spending, more infrastructure for the same dollars.

Impose a Federal government hiring freeze. New positions must be filled from the ranks of current employees. Anyone who leaves government service must be replaced from within or their responsibilities reassigned to others. Encourage all eligible employees to retire. Taken together these measures will halt the growth of the federal bureaucracy and

cut the payroll without immediate layoffs.

Put Congress into the standard federal benefit programs, including pension. We save when congressional pensions are based upon earnings and length of service. Disgraced federal legislators would no longer have safe pensions after one year or less actual service. Legislators would have to accept the same benefits the average federal employee receives, still excellent but less than the solid gold plans they currently enjoy at our expense.

Repeal all Federal regulations promulgated after December 31, 2000. Fewer rules, less cost to business, billions restored to American enterprise to capitalize new or expanded ventures. Business saves billions.

Lease the outer continental shelf for exploration and oil production. Issue permits for the Gulf of Mexico, the Alaskan Refuge and all federal lands with potential oil reserves. Allow the exploitation of domestic tar sands and approve the Keystone pipeline from Canada. These steps will result in hundreds of thousands of jobs throughout the country as the oil industry gears up for the greatest expansion in its history. We will finally break OPEC's stranglehold on our economy and reduce our balance of payments problem by hundreds of billions a year. And, the federal government profits from the initial sale of the leases plus the revenue stream from royalties. (Note to California, if onshore drillers are allowed to drill under the ocean you could eliminate your budget problems.)

In keeping with the zero budget concept, most of these improvements requires a simple one page bill to fully implement. One, the federal hiring freeze could be implemented by executive order. The only piece requiring a substantial bill is the reauthorization of oil drilling which might run to fifteen or twenty pages, most of them necessary to forestall rule making skullduggery by Interior and EPA.

None of these ideas will eliminate the debt problem or fully restore constitutional government. However, in aggregate, these simple steps, if taken now, would make a viable first step. This nation has endured a century of progressive malfeasance in quest of social justice. The result is an overreaching government, failing economy and greater social injustice. Continued class warfare in support of failed progressive policies will not result in a different outcome, only more of the same and another nation destroyed by utopian dreams that deny the most basic human rights, life, liberty and property. Professional pundits fail to recognize that there are a few hardy souls willing saddle up and make one more charge at the windmills. We are the tea party and we will prevail.

In some sense, Hussein seems unworried about getting reelected Is that because it will be next year when the bullets begin to fly? I fear that the Black Panthers, the public unions, the SEIU, the Americorps "volunteers" and others are preparing the groundwork for street mobs, poll place intimidation, riots and such. I hope my fears are unfounded, I fear they are not! Where are the "Fast and Furious weapons?

In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit. - - - Ayn Rand

Ayn Rand’s quote sums up our nation’s current situation...

In 1917 Russia it was the Communists...

In the mid-twenties Italy it was the Fascists...

In 1933 Germany it was the National Socialists “Nazis”...

In America the Progressives started their movement slowly and peacefully early last century starting with the big ones; TR, Wilson, FDR, LBJ and others along the way Demokrats and Republicans alike; under Obama they came out of the closet for what they really are...

When one takes the time to rationalize each one for what they are, socialists, communists, fascists, progressives or whatever they want to be called. It is all about big government, intrusive government, government before people. When all is said and done they are the same as peas in a pod!

Once the American people wake up and realize this, they will understand what is at hand...

A CLASH OF IDEOLOGIES is before us!

There can be no compromise as there is no compromise...

To make it plain and simple we have oil and water, they will not mix, when they settle down, one will rise and one will fall!

We are just about at this fork in the road again. The big question is? Will the left go left and the right go right peacefully or will we again engage our nation in another bloody war to see whose ideology prevails!

I does not get any simpler than this.

I would suggest that the People that need a downgrade more than anyone else are the Members of the Democrat Party, Since Teddy Roosevelt they have been undermining the Constitution, trying at every turn to establish Socialist Government with their Party leading the Country. It is time to Break up the Good ole Boys Club for all Old members of Congress and establish Term Limits consisting of a Maximum of 12 Years House or Senate, Stop the Career Politicians from thinking they are the only people that know what is best for us all while they are only thinking of what is best for them.

Reduce the Pay they receive, Eliminate the Retirement they get and put them back on the SS System, the same as all of us are on and last but by no means least, When the leave Office they are looking for work if they don't already have a job, OUT SIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT!

Members of Congress are creating a bullet box situation by failing to enforce this nations immigration laws. The citizens of Germany realized what was happening to them when it was too late. We are facing this again as Obama and his Czars entice enough ignorant people to vote for him. A failure to end his time in office will leave only the bullet box as a solution to correcting the damage caused.

I don't think it will be either the ballot box or bullets. The Lawgiver, Judge, Creator and Enabler referred to in the Declaration of Independence is very much alive and well, watching closely and will step in in a radical way to restore His Nation. Pray that we'll recognize what's happening when it happens and be prepared to move in an (old) new direction.

HAVING SWORN NUMEROUS OATHS TO "DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION" DURING MY LONG AND DISTINGUISHED CAREER IN THE US MILITARY FOR 24 + YEARS; I HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT USING ARMS/DEADLY FORCE IF NECESSARY TO RESTORE THE RULE OF LAW AND LOYALTY TO THE US CONSTITUTION!

SINCE WE ARE SUFFERING A GANGSTER GOVERNMENT WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE OBLIGATION TO EXCRETE THIS PERNICIOUS BEAST FROM OFF OUR BACKS AND THE BACKS OF OUR POSTERITY!

Everyone please let your elected representatives know what you think and that a large part of the silent majority of patriots are willing to fight for the country they love. We will fight first at the ballot box and if needed then the bullet box. The main purpose of the Second Amendment.!!!!

I have only one ballot to cast but lots of bullets and am willing to use both.

When the market drops so much from a sell-off....who is buying??????

Have plenty of ammo too....and the gun show is in town Saturday!! Woohoo!!

What we need to change is the present Democratic administration -- the President and the Senate. Hopefully, that will occur in November 2012.

Well said. PJ. I could not agree more.

Nelson Whipple--have no fear. The junk you mentioned will run at the first sign of resistance to their moves.

Remember the French Revolution?. The citizens finally had enough and took back their country.I see the same thing on our horizon.

Pass the ammo if need be. Prefer to vote them out!!

BHO wants the bullet box. That way would let him impose marshall law, suspend elections and that makes bho president for the duration.The Socialist Democratic party brought Hilter to power.

I think it is beyond the scope of things to recover our form of a Constitutional Republic by legislative means. I fear that the "Bullet Box" may be all that is left.

I'd rather see change by way of the ballot box, but I have this sinking feeling that these reptiles cannot be beat at the polls. Arm up and spread out. Things are going to get very interesting, likely sooner than later.

If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. Winston Churchill

In my opinion it will be some of each. Long term it has to be addressed in our school systems and a better understanding of our system of governance and each person's responsibility and accountability. This includes the obligations of parents and the foundation of marriage.

It is inevitable that government must grow, if for no other reason that population grows & productivity grows & to have equal protection under the law for each new inhabitant some growth of government must occur. BUT as any poltician & business guru knows, adding zeros to the bottom line can be propagandized to mean LOOK WE GREW. But adding zeros really is just blOat. I mean what looks or sounds better or smaller but really isn't. 14 (trillion) or 999 (billion). Well 14 Looks & Sounds Smaller, BUT it is NOT. blOat does NOT flOat.

We need Ronald Reagan to teach Obama how to be a President that loves and cares for this country. The Democrats want to give everything away to the people that are to lazy to work. President Reagan acknowledged God.

Lets start with the president.

Both ways have their own appeal. One or the other MUST be successful.

What do we need to change? THE PRESIDENT, of course!Also the entire congress and quick! Before the election if at all possible and in whatever way necessary. All of them (especially the president) should be impeached or taken to trial for their treason, starting with not defending Arizona to the way USA finances have been handled!!!

The ballot box would be the preferred way to end this escapade into socialism, but many of our polititions only know how to spend the money they do not create except by taxing those in the economy that do create money. No goverment ever creates any money all they do is spend money. I truely believe that our system is broken and may be beyond repair. When something is broken beyond repair it has to be scraped. If we would go back to having repesenatives that are there not for the perks and not there to make a life time carreer of politics. As it does not look like many in this county would be willing or able to give up the entitlements that our government has doled out for the past 50 + years. Seeing the state we are in the ballot box may not work, as once a man realizes that he can vote himself a paycheck he will always vote for the paycheck. So if the ballot will not work bullet box may be the only choice. The problem here is that the government controls the Army and military and will order them to control any rebellious citizens, but there is always a price to pay for liberty. Ita always takes patriotic blood to secure liberty and anyone not willing to stand and die for liberty should be content to be ruled by any oppressor that comes to power.

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In the words of his mentor Jeremiah, Wright I think Obama intends to bring America to it's knees one way or another!

If "we" can't beat him with ballots, it may have to be with bullets; if Americans have not had their arms taken from them!

Let's hold off on bullets for a while. How about this: Simply don't file a US 1040 in April 2012? If enough of us (say several million) did this, I think the message would be received in Washington, loud and clear. The message: "Enough. I'm through cooperating."

Even though I would not get my "refund" for my mortgage deduction, I figure that the pinheads in Washington will just have to borrow more money to give me my "refund" anyway. Screw 'em.

How about the Patriot's Post start hitting our government where it should be laying the blame and that is on CONGRESS!! Obama may present a budget, but CONGRESS must make changes and pass it back, but in the end CONGRESS has the ability to overide Obama.

CONGRESS has put US,Citizens, in the position we are in. It is CONGRESS that precipated the S&P downgrade! CONGRESS has made America less of a World Leader than we were!

But the blame on CONGRESS!!!

August 9, 2011

The Tea Party is said to be a “Party” in the sense of the Democratic or Republican parties. As most of those associated with the Tea Party movement know, there is no one at the “head” of the Tea Party. If the name Tea Party is registered, it was done by someone, whom I do not know. I know the e-mail accounts associated with the Tea Party I am associated with are registered and protected. To my knowledge, there are no ”card carrying” Tea Party members. Any money I have spent at Tea Party events went to T-shirts and other tangible goods. Tea Party individuals I have dealt with have my name and e-mail account. There is no roster of “Members”. The Tea Party is an association of people with ideas from the “Taxed Enough Already” idea. To say we have forced the President to endorse the idea of reducing spending, is tribute enough. If the AAA rating by S&P could be restored by cutting $4Trillion as they say, then we should advocate cutting Osama Care. If it truly costs $1Trillion each year, you can save $10Trillion over ten years, and solve the budget crisis. Reforming Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid could save many trillions more. As has been said, we do not have a income problem, we have a spending problem. The Tea Party is a solution, not the problem. Unfortunately, Obama Care is said to be $1 Trillion over 10 years.

The Tea Party Patriots started the idea of having Tea Party associated persons work to become members of the Republican Central Committee. These elected (sometimes appointed) members in the County Republican establishment have been successful in electing many members in the 2010 elections. It is hoped that 2012 will bring many more into elected office, both at the state and national level. Having a President of the Tea Party persuasion, would also be quite nice. The Tea Party is not completely composed of Republicans/Conservatives/Independents. There are Democrats and others that believe that government spending is a problem. The Main Stream Media, Progressive as it is, needs someone to “blame” for finally realizing that we have spent too much.

WARNING to every last one of you suggesting the Bullet, we are no where near needing that Option.. Frustration & anger is understandable but a controled & calculated response will do.. ONE Very Important thought you can have is to encourage Hillery Clinton to break away from the Obama Admin. and RUN Against the badly failing Obama Admin. This HER TIME to RUN for the Democrat Party Nomination, as she can now get it & easily Knock off Obama in the Primary Election.. EVERYONE - please encourage HilleryClinton to seek the Dem. Party Nomination for Pres. HER DAY HAS Finally COME.

I firmly believe that Obama is pushing the Country toward a complete Breakdown in Law and Order, in order to justify establishing Martial Law and Dictatorship. He is obviously following the Cloward-Piven Strategy: Overwhelm the "System" until it breaks down, resulting in complete Chaos and Disorder. Then, these Communists say, the People will turn to ANY Strongman who promises to restore Order. That is exactly what happened in Germany during the 1930's.

America, however, is NOT Germany. While some will beg the Government to restore Order, there are many more True American Patriots who will simply rise up and slaughter those who have brought our Country to this sad State. Whether Ballots or Bullets depends on which happens first: The American People get pushed too far, or the Socialists stop pushing us. Even Obama, although he is most likely NOT an American, should know what happens when the American People get pushed too far.

What the welfare socialists don't understand is that capitalism is the system that has given them the power to question it's validity.If the United States had not been so successful under capitalism we would not have the position in the world that has brought peace and prosperity to so many.

And yet the socialists,Obama and his comrades,think we have not done enough. Our system is worth shedding blood if necessary.

The Left’s tea party downgrade. Suggested editing: “That this is said with a straight face bespeaks a correct estimation of, and unshakable contempt for the mind of the uninformed American voter coupled with the Democrats infinite capacity for self-delusion." No comprehension of the fact that their efforts willl sink the ship, and when it goes down, they and their fortunes go down with it.

Our Liberty is defended by three boxes:

The ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box.

re: Barack Barry Soetoro Hussein Obama

He is a complete and utter fraud.

However I fear he is succeeding beyond any socialist dream of derailing (I pray temporarily) our great country.

We must struggle with this fraud and his cadre of nincompoops for another 15 months.

The rise of "social democracy" has been a long slow process started under FDR and allowed to continue under each of the subsequent presidents, without exception. Though many on the right decry advances made under liberal presidents, they have chosen to ignore significant socialist advances under Nixon, Reagan and Bush 1&2.

Recognize that no Ponzi scheme will sustain itself, whether it is called Social Security, Medi-care, medicaid, unemployment, welfare or our current tax system. None in human history has survived. And despite the Supreme Court's rulings, we all know that any Ponzi scheme is well beyond the scope of the Constitution both in spirit and practical application.

The survival of the nation is dependent upon the return to constitutional rule of law. The constitution makes no exceptions from liberties outlined in the bill of rights. Yelling "fire" in a crowded movie theater is "free speech" despite rulings otherwise. We have strayed so far from our roots that we cower behind our doors unwilling to protect ourselves from advancing government intrusion in to our lives or even a thief in the night.

As a society we are strapped by "regulations" on food, the environment, medicine, travel and more. None of which are passed in to law by Congress. EPA regulations destroying the coal industry are not laws, they are arbitrary rules of an unelected, unaccountable bureacrat who operates freely outside the bounds of the constitution. Our essential freedoms are being regulated from existence in the name of protecting you from every concievable lurking danger.

Can we restore the constitution at the ballot box? No. And there are very few with the intestinal fortitude to soil the ground with the blood of those willing to deprive them of it and those willing to defend it. Freedom? Most don't recognize it.

Mr. Alexander,

It was my honor to server this Nation in its armed services, actively from July 26, 1972 to July 27, 1976 and in reserve capacity from July 28, 1976 to July 27, 1978 where upon I received my Honorable Discharge from the United States Navy and my Good Conduct citation (why I did not receive it earlier is a mystery.) At no time during my out-processing from active service or in the documents that accompanied my Honorable Discharge was I released from my solemn oath to “Support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” In the summer of 1979 I discovered that there was an active effort to subvert the Constitution. This Treason has been an ongoing activity by groups that have now come to be known under the label “Liberals” and whom I call communist subversives. I have opposed these groups with every fiber of my being through educating my children, my neighbors and my co-workers in the constitution and the writings of our Founding Fathers. At one point I even attempted to go through the US Federal Courts which was an eye-opening education for me in the depth of the rot running through the fiber of our Nation. As it stands now per my oath taken at 1pm 26 July 1972,I stand ready to defend the Constitution from extra constitutional agencies acting as domestic enemies to the Constitution and assist constitutional agencies in enforcing the Constitution as the “supreme law of the land” per Article 7 clause 2. I do this for my children and grandchildren for I abhor slavery in any of its forms.

What we need to change is the attitude that the federal government's job is to take care of our needs and to pick the winners and losers in life. As long as those two fundamentals control the day, we'll continue to hear about how the "rich" need to pay their "fair share" and "sacrifice" so our government can redistribute their wealth more fairly - until the day that all the wealth is evenly distributed and we are all equally miserable (except, of course those in government who never seem to have to sacrifice).

What needs to change is our system, which is void of TERM LIMITS FOR CONGRESS.

My oath to defend my country, flag and constitution didn't die with my honorable discharge. What ever it takes. There are way to many progressives behind the current power structure to start shooting immediately and that would turn populist opinion away from the cause for sure. Voters can, have, and will turn us back to a constitutional republic IF we can wake them up to what's happening. The Patriot Post, Beck, Boortz, MRC, Fox and others are doing a fantastic job, but are read mostly by folks of our mind. Posting here is good, but letters to local paper editors, commenting in liberal and progressive blogs are better. Keep it intelligent but civil and use truth and facts. But there's a heavy inertia in D.C. and it's going to be a long slog. Don't lose the Tea Party spirit--build on it to elect those who back the Tenth Amendment's distribution of powers and we can restore the republic. On the other hand, I didn't give up the Scout motto, "Be prepared," either.

We need to change Obama.

You've been quiet on this topic, but now I'm so relieved and grateful that you are giving it the full treatment. Keep up the fine work.

I vote in every election and I have also added a generous supply of ammo to my survival gear. We will continue the work of saving the nation by working within the system, and when we succeed, and entitlements are degraded... I expect a backlash ala Greece and UK. Some may be happy to dial 911 when they find themselves under assault but many of us dial 911 then chamber a round. I won't go looking for trouble but those who bring trouble to my door will rue the day.

The ballot box, the courts, even asking for common sense has not worked. When I said, "Leave me alone", I was ignored. I was punished. I was sold into slavery and forced to pay "Fees" for what I already own.

I am not happy. Since those I elected and their friends deliberately are committing felonies and feel sate. I am not some ones' property. America is not free. I know they will steal all I have, deny me food, shelter, medicine, and jest while doing it. When It starts, so will I. Until then I will pray for them.

What do we need to change? The answer to that question is a easy one. The person sitting in the Oval Office, President Obama, the minority leader in the House of Representatives, Nancy "clean out the swamp" Pelosi and Majority Leader in the Senate, Harry Reid. That would go a long way towards resolving this country's decline financially, economically, and morally!!!!

If there was one more thing that needed to be changed I would suggest banning the "progressive liberal". If you follow a time line and were to graph the rise of progressive liberalism in this

country versus our current decline in the economic,moral,social values that made this country

great, you would see that with the rise of the

"progressives", the decline of our nation started and has continued to deteriorate. Logically then, it

follows that to stop that decline and return to our former status economically, morally, ethically,etc.,

we need to eliminate the "progressive liberal", and restore the "Rule of Law" and the "Constitution" to

it's rightful place in the order of things. Pretty simple, really. In the words of Forrest Gump, "That's all I have to say about that."

Phillip F. Eisner

The ballot box is much to be preferred. If that doesn't work in 2012, I fear the country will be irreparably harmed. While we certainly have the right to abolish a government that is destructive of the ends enumerated in the Declaration, I am not optimistic that any measures intended to accomplish a revolution would be successful. The root of the problems we now have is a much degraded spiritual condition. Let's pray for a Third Great Awakening.

The ballot or bullet point is certainly appropriate in today’s sorry political climate, but consider when push comes to shove, the CinC will order the military to quell the insurrection. Officers holding to personal honor and love of country will resign their commissions. Enlisted personnel don’t have that option.

I wrote the following on the evening of September 27, 2010.

It still applies to this day.

I do know our nation is currently headed in the direction of disaster.

I have an idea but do not know for sure what change the November elections will bring.

However, from the attitude of the old line Republicans; I only expect the lesser of the two evils to prevail if they should win.

From what I get out of the Republican's "Pledge to America"; eventually we will get to the same point where the BHO regime will take us, just a little later; like a cancer diagnosis 6 months to two years!

I think we are nearing the point; sooner than later like Russia did when they had enough of Communism!

It is time for our states to rise up and for our governors to take a stand and with-hold tax monies from The Federal Government of the American Empire! Mobilize our States' National Guards at our state lines if necessary!

As the above quotes states: When Ben Franklin first emerged from the Constitutional Convention, he was asked by a passerby, What government have you given us? Franklin replied. "A Republic if you can keep it."

We have lost our republic. Greedy and corrupt politicians have bought off the entitlement society and have stolen it from us the hard working, responsible Americans. I feel we are close to where we were back in 1773!

The Federal Government of the American Empire;

Will not secure the border of the State of Arizona or allow the State of Arizona to secure their border from an illegal Mexican invasion…

Did not allow the State of Louisiana to protect its coastline from the BP blow out…

Will not allow the State of Alabama to display The Ten Commandments in their courts houses…

And, for many more infringements it has made on our constitution, our States and “We the People”!

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

“We The People” must put The Federal Government of the American Empire in its proper place!

Returning our nation the Constitutional Republic of our Founding Fathers where our Constitution and Bill of Rights have a meaning!

“Four Boxes” guarantee and secure these freedoms for “We the People”!

1) The Jury Box!

2) The Soap Box! The Tea Party movement has awakened the silent majority. All must stay awake and involved!

3) The Ballot Box! This November 2nd “We the People” must turn out in masses; regaining control of the House; reducing the Demokrat, liberal and progressive control in the Senate to no more than a simple majority; neutering BHO, killing his un-American, Marxist agenda for the remaining 2 years of his presidency!

4) The Cartridge Box! If “We the People” fail at the Ballot Box this November 2nd. Our nation will be doomed as BHO, his regime the Demokrats, the progressives and other Liberals will continue to put in place his un-American, Marxist agenda. At this point “We the People” will have no other recourse than resort to “The Cartridge Box” to put an end to BHO and his regime’s tyranny!

Our Declaration of Independence states;

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Let there be no doubt, when our founding Fathers drafted our Constitution 11 years later in 1787. They had been down a muddy, rutty road putting their lives and fortunes on the line in their struggle for freedom and independence before giving “We the People” our Bill of Rights; the Second Amendment was given to us by our Founding Fathers for just this reason.

This is why we have seen such a broad assault on it through the years from the Demokrats, Progressives and Liberals!

It is time for a change, one way or the other!

Have a good evening.

Jack

Obama democrat minions like Senator John Kerry and buzz-czar White House press secretary Jim Carney have no difficulty looking American citizens straight in the eye, telling them that the TEA Party is the cause of the S&P credit downgrade, and with the gall of Baghdad Bob, metaphorically ask them who are you gonna believe, me our your own lyin' eyes? To them, it's obvious that those Americans who have made themselves known as the TEA Party have let the cat out of the bag by showing to the S&P and the entire world that we are NOT united by the increasing debt status quo, and by fighting for an ACTUAL decrease in the debt instead of ACTUAL increase in spending AND the debt have thus CAUSED the crisis. I believe that in psychiatric circles this is known as denial, and in political circles as typical democrat bulls...! This should come as no surprise, of course, as democrats have no realistic or functional options to reverse our debt and for the last 70 years or so have made a living out of pulling the bull over the eyes of American citizens.

So, America, who are you gonna believe? The democrats or your own lyin' eyes?

The whole regime, and that includes CONGRESS.

I would, like probably the majority of Americans, prefer that it be the ballot box. But as a retired law enforcement officer who has been through more than one riot, I am armed and prepared should bullets it be.

Both political parties are at fault. This spending has been going on for a very long time, and the pols in DC have done nothing to try and actually reduce inflation and deficit. To consatntly borrow and not having the ability to repay a lender is a serious concern/problem. The MSM (Mainstream Media)

has alot to play as they are extremely left leaning and are the mouthpieic for the Obama administration. Just like they were when SLick Willie was in office. There was a commetn about having Hillary Clinton run for president , She is just like the rest of them, she is liberal and against many things this country stands for. WE don't need her or her kind in the White House or Congress/Senate. There has to be a drastic change in DC, term limits in both House of Representatives and Senate, two three years and no re-election. There are to many lawyers in DC as legislators they need to be cleaned out, practice law not politics.

Politicians need to be held accountable by us on evey issue and proposed bill that is sponsored or put up to a vote. We have the current problem with the current resident of White House, he needs to NOT TO BE REELECTED. For all those leftists/Socialists that want to impsaoe their will ways on us. IF you think that socialism is that great why don't all of you pick a socialist /leftist country and move there, Get out of My country and leave us alone.

To: RK Sprau

Wow! There's so much passion against Obama and everything Liberal these days, if we can judge by the tremendous number of patriots commenting lately. I really had to scroll down far to find your reply.

Just goes to show, that Obama and the Liberals show us every day just what they're all about. They show us the darkness in their souls. And it looks like we're finally waking up to it.

RK Sprau, $0.50 out of every dollar? Are you sure? I realize that you included state income tax, but you didn't really do the calculation I requested. I'm trying to see where a "rich" person fits with the federal marginal tax rates. Even if you were at the 35% marginal rate for 2010, your overall federal tax shouldn't be able to exceed 35%. Do the calculation I mentioned and you might be surprised. Let me know what you get. Even though state taxes and any other taxes are indeed important, they don't pertain to this.

Regarding my condemnation of government income redistribution schemes, what you call socialist programs, I think we mainly agree. I wasn't including retarded people, or people with genetic diseases or birth defects, or perhaps accident victims (although isn't that what insurance is for?). In general, I wouldn't be against helping out people who have had major issues that are not of their own making, BUT, BUT, BUT, we must have a standard of some sort, or like a toddler down a slide, everyone will try to slide into government assistance and we would have socialism all over again. In your heart of hearts, you know this is true.

Now, after having gone through the reasoning above, here's another thought with an opposing viewpoint. Before the federal income tax was created in 1913, America didn't have the cash to even think about creating the social security program, or medicare, or any number of government assistance programs there might be. So how were these "problems" handled? Answer: society handled it via person-to-person human compassion and effort, and via charitable organizations and churches. The federal government has co-opted this segment of society, and it's a disgrace. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Here's another related problem that no one realizes (except me). Ponder this. Social security. It used to be that as parents aged and their kids moved out, either the parent(s) would sell the family home and move in with one of their kids, and be cared for in that environment, or one of the kids would take over the family home and the parent(s) would stay there until they died. Nowadays, perhaps because we live longer these days, parent(s) often stay in their old family home, or else they move into a retirement center. Either way, they're not living with any of their kids so they are, in effect, paying for the costs of a household, either the expenses of continuing to live in the old family home or the big expenses of living in the retirement center. Either way, these expenses are taps off the social security system that were never meant to be. Taxpayers are paying the costs of households for millions of seniors who aren't living with their children. Get it? If the S.S. system wasn't being burdened so much with these household expenses, there would be one helluva lot more money available for prescription drugs and medical care!

W.T. Door; You are incorrect, Sir! Enlisted personnel are sworn to, among other issues, to receive and obey all lawful orders. The operative word there is lawful, as I am certain you are aware. Some may act on the unlawful order to quell public uprising. Not enough, though. It will be 1760 again. A percentage of the population will support liberty and freedom. Another percentage will not. I suspect that the larger percentage will support the Rule of Law. There are more armed, many former military, persons to support that Rule of Law than there are those willing to support the criminal commands of a pseudo-leader. Semper Fi!

A lot of good thought posted and I respect most all. However, my worry is: do we have time to wait on votes, which are very precarious. I am so disgusted with politicians I can hardly see straight. Where are the supposed "statesmen" who would never set still for the BS that has been happening?

My opinion, we can't afford to wait for anymore fearless leaders to do what is right, mainly because we have none. Therefore, a gigantic TAR & FEATHER PARTY on DC is overdue. Bullets, legal issues, Tar & Feather brigade walking to the White House and Congressional Offices, legal and effective with heartfelt determination!

If it is by the bullet we will never survive as a nation.

Question, Mr.Green; Why not? This Republic was born in gunfire. For eight long years. Why not again? Soon!

As a retired member of the United States Army and a concerned citizen I also want to see change, but not the GARBAGE we have received from this administration. The change I want to see is an America that is Prosperous and Free. Free of these morons who want to control every aspect of our lives. The Dingy Harry's, Pelosi's and Obamas to name just a few, will destroy this country and everything it stands for. America is not nor was it ever intended to be a Socialist country. Our Constitution and Freedoms is what made us unique. The day we (as a nation) let them take God out of our schools and courts we started going down hill. I say that because we were founded a a Christian Nation and it worked well. There is an old saying, "If it aint broke, don't Fix it".

Now America is on it's way to becoming Greece. We should take evry congressman, senator and executive who precipitated this and try them for Treason, regardless of what party they belong too. Then require those remaining to take the same oath as I took as a soldier. Violate the oath, Go to jail, directly to jail, there is no GO stamp.

I served in countries during civil war's, it's brutal. I don't want to see it happen in America. With that said we need to get back to supporting the Constitution insted of trying to corrupt it's meaning. No one hates war more than the soldier who fight's it, unfortunately it is sometimes a necessary evil. I pray it doesn't have to happen here.

A bullet box is the proper table for marking a ballot.

As the dollar collapses, gold soars out of reach, unemployment explodes, and mobs loot, pillage and burn European cities, I'm making bullets as fast as I can. They may become an illicit form of currency if the ballot box is corrupted. I intend to protect my life, wife and neighbors if necessary. I will never surrender my liberty to illegitimate usurpers of my God-given rights insured to us by the U.S. Constitution. I took a lifelong pledge when I joined the Army to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic. I see a lot of domestic enemies.

What do we need to change?

We need another Great Awakening. If most of the American people do not understand human government in the context of biblical Christianity (such as, God is the ultimate authority, not government, etc.) then why should we expect wisdom from Washington when we know that "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding"? (Prov. 9:10 NIV)

I cannot yet endorse the use of force to retake our government. But after the way the total narcissist in the White House used the return of the bodies of our fallen as an event for photo ops, against the wishes of 19 families, I'm getting very close. If my son, a Special Ops soldier, is killed and the narcissist uses the return of my son's body for a photo op, it will be the last straw.

Obama's WTF budget? Ha! Anyone who has spent time in any of our war zones over the past three or four decades likely has a different understanding of the meaning of "Whiskey, Tango Foxtrot."

Due largly to the impotence of the Repulican party, is is basically too late for the ballotbox to do an good. Sadly I must submitt that eventually it will come to blood and bullets. I hope I do not live to see it.

What are my thoughts on civil disobedience? My considerations start with these verses and I'll explain more afterwards:

"Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right. For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men." -1 Peter 2:13-15 NIV

Now, the obvious question in my mind is, "Does the United States Government, in it's current form, qualify as a legitimate authority to which I am to submit, or is it so far removed from true legality that I don't have to obey it all?"

If I have my facts straight, the apostle Peter was writing to dispersed Christians who had undergone persecution, in one form or another, under Emperor Nero, who was of course, the lunatic which burned Christians to light his garden, among other things. One could say, "Well, Nero was crazy, but he was still legitimately Caesar, so they had to submit to him, the US Government, on the other hand, is no longer legitimate."

So that's my observation; I don't know whether it is or is not legit. My decision would depend on the meaning of the words in the original Greek, the biblical context, and other passages, which I have not yet studied in depth. Until then, I'll continue to live in full submission to the US Government, as long as I can do so rightly before God.

To me "civil disobedience" seems to 'half-way' or 'middle of the road'. If we're in a war, theoretically, then I'm either going to be fully submissive to the central government in every area per biblical conviction, or, if they are not a legitimate authority, then I would give them no pretext of submission, servitude, or citizenship in their regime; I would be all-out against them in every area, again, per biblical conviction.

-Thankful first-generational American

Even our founding fathers stated that it was the "right" of the citizens of the United States to revert to arms to defend our Constitution and our freedom, if the central government ever became an enemy to the country and/or our Constitution. Well, it seems that our current "president" and several members of the Congress (in both houses) have positioned themselves as just that; enemies of our state ans Constitution. Our "president" has stolen TRILLIONS of dollars to use to advance his anti-constitution stances, he has repeatedly LIED to the American people, he has refused to uphold his sworn duties to "protect and defend the USA from all eneimies, both foreign and domestic (not securing our borders, attempting to bancrupt the country, failing to uphold his duty as president to defend and uphold the Constitution, etc.) I, for one, would not condemn the person(s) who saw the "bullet box" as their only recourse, but would STRONGLY urge theuse of the ballot box, instead.

Let's not loose our heads here. I'm afraid a bullet would the Democrat race into martyrdom.

Despite what Obama deserves, we must vote him out of office to rid the country of this liberal fiasco.

If it is bullets it must be a concentrated, organized effort. That requires leaders with ability. Who among us are able to LEAD? A disorganized mob will avail little. Liberals are now in control and have a well oiled military machine at its disposal. We would need to be better organized and better armed. This will not happen overnnight. Yes many of us are already armed but do not have the arms of the U S Military. Any unorganized coup or uprising would be put down vey quickly by the governmnet forces. We would also have to have great support from the American people. Do we really have sufficient support? Many Americans may feel that there is wrong doing by the government but would still feel an armed insurrection is also wrong and that we would be considered traitors. It takes much more than just arms to win a war. Planning, strategies, and tactics go a long ways but war is more complex than that. During the 1860' Lee proved determination as well as strategies could win battles but Grant proved numbers could win the war.

If Osama is elected again, 5 Nov will be bullets.

YOU DONT WANT A SHOOTING REVOLUTION....

But we need to get rid of all progressives and liberals Lock them up in muslim jails.....I have been in a shooting war and it`s not good, but what about our military who are they sideing with??????

WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CURRENT RESIDENT IN THE WHITE HOUSE. ALL THAT IS MENTIONED IN SPENDING CUTS ARE SS AND MEDICARE THE ONLY 2 ITEMS RECIPIENTS PAY FOR BUT FOR THOSE ADDED BY DEMS WHO NEVER PAID. WE NEED TO CUT WELFARE -DO AWAY WITH A RAISE EVERY TIME THEY HAVE ANOTHER CHILD AND FREE CELL PHONES. WE NEED TO CUT OR ELIMINATE LIFETIME SALARIES AND FREE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL LEGISLATORS NO LONGER SERVING. THEY PAID NOTHING TOWARDS IT. SOME OF THAT MONEY WOULD BE BETTER SERVED AND MORE DESERVED ALLOTTED TO THE MILITARY WHO HAVE PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE FOR US. ENLISTED PERSONNEL SHOULD BE PAID DECENTLY SO THEY CAN SUPPORT THEIR FAMILES.CUT /ELIMINATE USELESS BURACRACIES IN D.C

Either way, my friends and family are "good to go". Semper Fi

Haven't read all 300+ comments but just scanning I'm not seeing the appropriate history.

Bill Clinton, in retrospect proved to be a much more practical socialist revolutionary, than the hard communist dogmatist we are now facing, but a tougher,and less feminized America then responded to his tenure by organizing a plethora of armed militia's.

Ruby Ridge and Waco were not accidents of Presidential inattention but a purposeful attempt to justify a mass gathering of American weapons from our citizenry, a thing that succeeded quite thoroughly in England.

It didn't work, but the left does not discard its templates, but seeks to refine them.

Beware: The Left is pursuing policies that will make certain the impossibility electoral success.

In their continued outrages they are begging for violence from the right...dreaming of it now, as the only thing they might leverage to keep hold of their power!

What we need to change - we need to change the democrats/socialists out of office and elect people who believe in Free Enterprise. We need to change the tax structure to be fairer to all people.

In the interest of sparing our posterity the burden of this debt, I would be more than willing to increase my own tax burden by 100% to offset this terrible millstone. However, history has shown us that ANY increase in revenue through increased taxes would be looked upon by our legislators as increased means for increased spending, before the moneys are even collected. And of course, increased taxes are always associated with decreased revenue, as the heavily taxed money rarely changes hands, to avoid the higher tax.

Instead, I just buy ammunition and wait to be called to duty.

First, why not broaden the tax base? How in the world can we survive as a nation with 47% of the populace not paying any taxes? Second, encourage anyone who advocates for higher taxes to send in any excess money he/she has to the Treasury. Let them put their money where their mouth is. Start with the Hollywood crowd.

Impeach Obama for treason; before suspending Congress pass a cap, cut & balance act as a bare minimum; after suspending Congress freeze all additional government activity except for essential services; immediately roll back non-essential services by 35%; susupend the federal bureaucracy for a period of 3 months while a plan for absolutely gutting government services can be drawn up; pass an Amendment to the Constitution that defines any future government debt liability as a criminal act punishable by the death penalty; commence an inquiry into the Democratic Party for treason, sedition, and a Party ideology bent on the destruction of the USA. Pass a Congressional bill that acknowledges the Democratic Party's history of support for slavery, segregation, and its opposition for the first six decades of the 20th Century to the civil rights movement. Consider abolishing the republican system of govenance and instituting a parliamentary system, in which abuses are much more difficult to implement.

Ballots or Bullets? To borrow a phrase from the President, "Everything should be on the table".

Watching the GOP Presidential debate, I hope one of these contenders can draw enough ballots!

I would much rather die standing up than live on my knees. I will fight with bullets if my Liberty and Freedom are threatened.

By subverting the Electorial College, with votes going to popular contender whose votes were bought by favors to the Unions and mostly illegal migrants,etc., etc., the ballot box seems iffy.

Guns employed against modern weapons used to quell revolutionary uprisings also seem iffy.

The number one Defense is our Creator, in whom I will rely on as I'm casting my Republican votes and while spending as much time as possible on the target practice range. I have no intention of going belly-up on this deal, but if I go down, His Praise will be on my lips and May G-d Bless America.

Why don't you post anything from Gun Owners of America. I am an endowment member of NRA but they need to be heard too.

Look at the recent special election in Minnesota. If it comes to thuggery and disorder in the streets, then it shall also come to something other than ballots to contain it and procect lives and property.

Perhaps Homeland Security is right about those of us who took the oath to protect and defend ... from all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC.

Semper Fi,

doc

As one of our Founders said, "I'll die on my feet before living on my knees."

Soetero aka Obama is a Manchurian President...

He was "put in place" to further the New World Order and tom do so my "Bankrupt" our nation. He's backed by Soros. Any 3rd grader can see what he's doing.

The only way we American Patriots can win other than at the ballot box is with the 100% support and leadership of our military from the four stars down through the E-1's. If not, then it will be suicidal to take up arms. I would rather fight and win, but I will fight none the less because I could not continue to live in a marxist state and be mentally, emotionally and financially abused. I think the beginning of a violent civil disturbance has already begun with the so called "flash mobs" of young, black thugs running wild in the streets and attacking whites. Time to make a stand.

We did not just now get into this debit crisis, by who is in washington today, "we" have allowed this to go on for decades, and I think it is way past the time to change out everyone (all 3 Branches) in washington

We need "Servants" in washington that will do what is right (Laws and Policies) for "all" citizens not just special interest groups.

AS for Taxes Maybe its time, not for equal payment but equal Sacrifice. There is to much greed in our soceity. It shouldn't be about "taking" but about "GIVING"

one way or the other it must be done...God bless america...

Ballot box or bullets--

I'm wrestling with that question. As a writer with more than 50 published books, I will publish a political thriller A THOUSAND YEARS OF DARKNESS, to be released within the next few months. It confronts this very topic, with the future of the Republic. I'd like to send you a copy when it is published. Charles W. Sasser

Ballot box would be best, but bullets will work also. I prefer the former, but I'm ready for the latter.

To me, it's a matter of survival. If it takes bullets, so be it and count me in.

Bullets. And there is no reason to wait until after 2012. The election will be rigged and the Little Muslem will finish what he has begun. Bullets. Now.

It is perhaps time for an organized peaceful but armed rebellion. A march on DC with the intent of physically removing the offending members of government and holding public trials for treason. If a few politico's were stood up against the wall and executed, the others would quickly see the folly of their ways. The other option of change at the ballot box will not suffice, how many times have the "people" known of pols who do not do what the people have asked and still get re-elected over and over. The entitlement mentality has become the norm and those are the ones that vote to keep the same "enlightened" polticians in power. Washington has ignored the "people" for so long that We the People are no longer revelant to them. If it comes to bullets count me and mine in, my oath to "protect and defend" remains intact.

Paraphrased, From time to time it becomes necessary for the blood of patriots and tyrants to be spilled to preserve liberty and freedom.--- Thomas Jefferson

"Give me liberty or give me death"--------

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things, when it comes to our freedon----------

The implication that our government can only be changed by armed insurrection is reckless and unwarranted. If you want to see who caused America's current mess, look in the mirror. President Obama can do nothing without the support of Congress - and we elected these rascals. Granted, the incumbents have a great deal of support for increasing and continuing government largesse from the 52% of Americans who receive Federal "entitlements" But, factually, those on the dole who vote as a bloc could easily be trumped at the polls if all those who whine about our government got off their sofas and voted. What the previous election proved is that those of us who believe the best governmet is the least government can toss the rascals out. We can do it again if we stay energized and committed. If not, we get to join the slide to the bottom of the slippery slope towards socialism. Ballots, not bullets are the answer in America. Those who feel the opposite is the answer will "sow the wind".

I see a revolution fomenting in this country ever since the 1968 gun control law was passed.

"Obama can solve the question of his re-election by raising the poverty ceiling to increase the number of welfare dependents."

Don't you understand? Mr. Obama really, truly loves poor people. That's why he's working so diligently, so "incredibly hard", to impoverish us all - just so he will have millions more people to love him in return.

Ballots travel much slower than bullets and leave fewer scars...Bullets leave fewer enemies...itsa toss up..

Henry Hasse wrote, "My opinion is that we have not learned from the Moses story - following his father-in-law’s idea for increased government which finally destroyed ingenuity over the years. Personal responsibility for self and family and your neighbor in need was neglected because the government will take of the poor, the widow, the orphan, and the alien. So Abraham’s Promised Land Dream was forgotten, along with the neglected poor, the widow, the orphan, and the alien. Freedom was lost"

This is to me an unusual interpretation of the text. I always understood Jethro's advice to Moses was to delegate and decentralize his authority for the benefit of everybody. This worked well and the system of tribal and clan judges carried over long past the entry into the Promised Land. The first generations apparently did generally take personal responsibility for the needy, as God commands.

The problem was the people forgot God, turned liberty into license ("everyone did what was right in his own eyes"), and finally demanded a king to take care of them instead of answering directly to God for their behavior (as God told Samuel, "They have not rejected you, they have rejected Me"). Does that sound more like the present situation as well?

There is a very simple solution for those liberal Marxists. Remember this only applies to the population as a whole, there will be government waivers, of course. What ever you earn, send it in to Uncle Sam and then wait for your food stamps and housing check in the mail, also surrender your car as public trans or a bike are your only options. If you don't want to work, no problem, you can get what everyone else gets. Of course this will not apply to those elite elected.

I pray we can change it at the ballot box. Unfortunately, even if we roust them out of office, they won't go away, & they won't stop. So I'm hoarding ammo for the bullet box...

08/12/11

READY A PRISON IN NORTH ALASKA,WHEN THE HALF

BREED LYING TERRORIST HAS BEEN OUSTED,ARREST HIM

FOR THE DAMAGE HE HAS INFLICTED UPON OUR FOUNDERS

GIFT AND LET HIM SERVE WITH NO TERM LIMITS.

Take my blood, take my heart. I give it freely to the country I love. I say no to the despotic bunch of pansies on the other side of the isle. They will not have their way. This I say!

Thank you Patriot Post from the depths of my heart for providing this forum. It has displayed so many common sense solutions for our U.S. Governmental fiasco, that it seems impossible for things to continue down this road to nowhere. There are just too many good solutions for evil to continue.

Dependence on other nations for so many things that we should be providing for ourselves. And the systematic dismantling of our values and honor as a country, are things than cannot continue. These foolish congressional practices must be stopped AT ANY COST.

Pardon me if I repeat something said earlier- don't have time to read all the comments quite yet. My opinion is that other than the obvious need to replace our "highest" leadership positions with people who love America, we need to trim the government drastically. Eliminate the Departments of Education, Agriculture, Energy, and probably several others I have never heard of. Cut subsidies generally; quit paying people NOT to grow food. Stop foreign aid paid to buy countries' loyalties - it doesn't work. Close our borders. Make English the ONLY official language of America.

Make the path to citizenship less onerous, but require history, language, and loyalty to America only. Enforce the Constitution; it should not be changed by partisan judges to be interpret according to personal opinion. Give powers back to the states. Keep God in America. All citizens should be able to worship, but this country was founded with God on its shoulder and should stay that way. Give the Communist ACLU its walking papers. These suggestions may sound "radical" or "extreme", but this is the way we used to be and it worked!

When I see the left trashing the Tea Party and its elected officials for trying to do what they promised, it pleases me. It reassures me that the Tea Party is gaining ground.I feel the same when they attack the NRA, it shows these organizations have strength and great numbers in voting members. That seems to be what frightens the left.

Read Obama's lips. His redistribution of income is to have a society of equals where everyone suffers from the same morose mediocrity.

This teleprompter president loves the benefits and

privileges of the office but leaves the leading part to panels, polls, partisans and pretenders, all of which indicates ineptness.

I am more than willing to try the ballot box first, however if he manages to "buy" the election again, I am ready and willing to "Lock & Load".

First get rid of more than 75% of Washington departments and all of the "Zars". Only people elected by the people to make laws of any kind.

Term limits would go a long ways toward getting government back on track. If term limits were implemented, maybe they'd do their jobs instead of cozying up to lobbyists and special interests and campaigning for the next election!!!

If ballots would restore the Constitutional Republic, i.e., if OUR votes counted, we would not be allowed to vote. As one astute state legislator said recently, its too late to expect to regain our freedoms through procedure and too early to shoot the bastards. I submit that Jefferson saw things more clearly when he stated that there should be a political revolution about every 20 years to assure individual freedom and liberty. The problem is that the powerful behind the self serving puppets are never touched by their wars or manipulations. The Revolutionary War did not touch the international financers of that war, not the Napoleonic war, nor the so-called Civil War, nor the revolutions that destroyed Armenia, Russia, the Belgium Congo..on and on the list goes..WWI and WWII did not touch the instigators and vipers that orchestrated them. Now we find ourselves talking about the puppet in the White House and the "useful tools" in Congress, the Senate, the Judiciary and throughout our nation without any discussion of those "untouchables" who will again garner the wages of their plundering murderous disdain for the rest of humanity. If bullets be needed let us not neglect the head of the snake this time.

RE: Hamilton: Do to my wife holdings she inherited and what I do and she does, we have an accountant prepare our taxes. Next week I will make an appointment with him for now I'm curious. I can definitely say we're under the 175.000.00 p/y mark. Gross rental on ranch/farm land in Az has tanked over the last few years. and is not included. Now add to it we live in a different state that seems to think we owe them taxes on the same land we pay Az on...

I can say for everyone we pay more than this 35% I will have him break it down. I did a quit check. Out of every 33,000.00 we pay approx 9,600.00. I noticed a line that says "Medicare" that I did not include but it is for the 2 of us, 40.00 p/m additional. We have private insurance. We have no children living at home, no deductions for family. This doesn't include farm/ranch tax, rental tax, upkeep on ranch/farm nor doe sit include what little profit there is off the farm/ranch. By law my wife as a HHN has to carry malpractice insurance, our private insurance, State insurance. Rich, on paper maybe. (Holy Crap, I'm being screwed.)

To E8: As a former officer, unless the life of those in my command or civilian lives were at stake, I will never give the command.

To the person you were replying to. I've came back from a 3 week vacation in the British commonwealth nations. There is a lesson there for us to learn. Will it happen here? You can count on it. to say it's hooligans, or facebook is to blame. I don't live there and I heard, we want jobs, we want to eat, we want to pay our rent, whatever. I heard it was going to happen and will happen again. If I'm a yank and I knew the riots would go down in several major cities with the same underlying cause, I know there government had to know.

Is this what I'm hearing here? I have an interesting view on it but that's for another time.

When President Thomas Jefferson warned us we might have to engage in "revolution" every generation or so, he knew not what they had built. We survived Woodrow Wilson, and FDR. With Barack Obama, we elected, for all the wrong reasons, a man completely antithetical to the american citizen. His famly and close friends are all exceptional for one thing. Thet are all profoundly anti-american in every sense of the word. Along with Obama came his wife,Michelle, Reverand Wright, Cass Sunstien, Van Jones, Valerie Jarret, Bernaden Dohrn,Bill Ayers. All self proclaimed Marxists, socailists or communists. awise person once said, "you will knmow a man by the company he keeps"..We are getting quite familiar with the man who refers to himself as Barack Hussein Obama. In November of 2012, should there be any attempt to force us to accept this man as president of the us, it will be time for President Thomas Jefferson's reccomended revolution. We, the people hold the power, it comes from the bottom up, our power, and will never be given to those who 'serve ' us. This President serves at our favor, he has lost that favor, it is time he moves along. And takes his disreputable friends with him, we can deal with his aftermath.

I can not for the life of me, understand how this man child gets away with what he does. He is absolutly determined to destroy America and is getting it done. The media are fools, most of the Senate and House as well. Where are his wedding photos? Where are his records. Why so many social security numbers in his name. He traveled to Kenya on a social security number from Conneticut and never lived there!

I am an old man but I will fight with bullets if I am called. I have no fortune, but do have will and honor.

elementry = we need to change (get rid of) old sicko oboma = problem almost solved some true patroit for president who truly cares for the country first = then self congress & senate - same - problem solved I truly hope the American people wake up reqal soon God bless America

Our population has been so dumbed down by our public education system that we have an uninformed citizenry voting to put these Socialists in power. We do not teach history or civics in the classroom, so what do we expect.

The only solution is with bullets, and I mean real ones. We must revamp our whole education system and rebuild government to what our founders had set up with more protections so as to prevent Judicial tyranny. The purpose of the 2nd amendment after all, is to protect our rights.

All vestiges of Progressivism (liberalism) and other ways of thinking that will effect our freedoms must be abolished by all means possible.

Since the Democrats control the ballot box in many states and the leadership of the Republican Party will most like either get a weak candidate or one almost as bad as Obama elected to run against Obama by whatever means necessary, I fear that it will have to be bullets.

To: RK Sprau

We're still in the 8/11 Patriot Post. Mark has released the 8/12, so I hope you see this reply.

If you're under $175k income for the year, you might not be rich enough to be considered "rich". Neverthtless, I'll go on. If the $9600 you mentioned out of every $33k you earn, is your federal withholding, that is 29%. According to the 2010 tax tables, for your income, your accountant has probably set your withholding at the 28% rate. Now, your wife probably deducts her insurance as a business cost, and you guys must have real estate tax deductions, but you probably don't get any deduction for your health insurance. And you probably get some sort of depreciation on your ranch, and a tax credit for any out of state taxes you pay relating to the ranch. But all in all, I'm guessing that with your deductions, you probably end up paying a net of around 25% in taxes (around $43,000), and I imagine your accountant has it set up so that you guys get about $2k to $5k back at the end of the year. Your accountant could withhold less but then you might have to pay at the end of the year, and I think you'd balk at that.

Anyway, my only point in all this relates to Obama and the Democrats' persistence that the "rich" don't pay enough. Well, I think that's BS. I think that's just the biggest lie of all, and I'd like to settle the issue. That is why, thinking you to be "rich", I wondered what percentage you paid. Just how much do the "rich" pay? Well, it seems to me that if their accountants are honestly following the tax code, and with deductions and exemptions, a $250k earner (33% bracket) might pay a net tax of as little as 22%. He would be paying $55,000 in tax. So does Obama think that's too little? That's more than some people make in an entire year. A guy in the 35% bracket, making $400k per year, if he pays a net 24% because of AMT (alternate minimum tax), would pay $96,000 in tax. Is that too little? What about the guy making $40k per year who gets some sort of earned income credit and ends up getting $2000 more than was withheld from him, back from the government? Did he pay too much having gotten money back, that he didn't earn, that came from your withholdings?

And here goes the point I as making a few replies ago. That $40k guy, and lots of others just like him, go to the polls to vote for more candidates who promise to help the poor by taxing the "rich". So maybe the following year those $40k guys will get a $3000 tax credit instead. Get it? The voting impulses of people who are absolved from paying tax and/or who receive personal gain from government coffers, are warped and corrupted by economically discriminatory policy that favors them at the expense of others. That's the immorality of income redistribution. It's thievery and it subverts the election process.

What do we need to change? Washington, D.C.!!!!

Definitions:

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance,& the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the sharing of misery." Winston Churchill

Another: "A socialist is somebody who doesn't have anything,& is ready to divide it equally among everybody". Irish playwright George Bernard Shaw(1856-1950),who ironically was a socialist--one work..My Fair Lady--Broadway musical

Ballot or Bullet Box?

I fear each day we find our nation closer to the latter. I have been asking my grass roots patriots one question; How long can we wait?

These words keep swirling in my mind...

“If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” —Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965).

I am a simple man and I claim no power of ESP or Devine guidance, so I'll leave you with this rhetorical question..."How much longer do we wait?

Scary stuff! Where do I sign up?

As I have previously indicated when prompted by you to respond. Its the ballot box, the jury box, and then, only after ALL other venues have been rendered ineffectual, injurous, or illegal, should the catridge box be considered.

In the absence of the intellectual/moral "atmosphere" that existed in the colonies in the late 18th century, any display of purposeful violence will be met with equal measure.

Just as those leaders in the South were utterly foolish for ordering the firing on Ft. Sumpter, thus prviding Lincoln with the justification for military action against "those responsible," so too would be the Federal reaction to organized insurrection.

Jeff Davis and the others would have been far more reasoned had they instead petitioned the Supreme Court on the constitutionality of secession - almost a slam dunk decision at that time in our history. Had that been the outcome, not only would over 600,000 lives have been spared, untold carnage have been avoided, but the important political concept of "States Rights" would have been upheld. Instead it is now a forgotten concept from a bygone era, one that is tainted with the moral spectre of the perpetuation of evil.........

The corruption, the stuffing of ballot boxes, the fraudulent registration of thousands of non voters....I do not see the ballot box being the solution anymore.....I am afraid we are past that and the next step will be revolution.....sorry assed state of affairs....and a sorry assed prez imho

Wow all these comments and still we have yet to seriuosly discuss what TRULY MADE AMERICA FREE -- FAITH IN OUR HEAVENLY FATHER AND HIS JESUS CHRIST!

Christianity built America. Educated America, Took Care of the Poor, Widows, Orphans and Prisoners.

But not anymore we have taken our country down the walk of shame. We have no honor because we don't live a prudent and repentant life as in the old days. We refuse to work but still want to eat and get a dessert and seconds and...and so on!

We must turn from our sinful ways, LOVE ALL but stop supporting sinful behavior. Stand for God or sink to heights of satan. -- IT IS A CHOICE. By not doing anything we have sealed our fate!

Rather than characterize the usurper in the oval office as "narcissistic," may I suggest you Google the word "psychopath" to determine a 'real' characterization; and, also, bear in mind there's a strong possibility he's a "stuffed suit" reading from a teleprompter inscribed with someone else's words/purpose. There's a "ventriloquist" at work....

USN,E8 Ret. That’s the point and the problem. Orders issued by a superior military officer (rank) or a civilian in a position of authority (POTUS) are considered lawful. That they may not be can only be considered after the fact in a court marital or court of law. An order to stop a riot/”quell a public uprising” is not unlawful. Our constitutional right is for "peaceful assembly". Other than that the bad guys have the legal advantage. The principle of the ballot or bullet argument is certainly legitimate.(e.g. Patrick Henry’s resounding words), but realistically if it comes to the latter, we won’t be facing the culprits who have caused the problem, but our own troops !

IF Congress would do their job according to our Constitution, then OBAMA would not be able to run in the next election. HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN !!!!!!!!!!!!

look up: www.Catholicbook/Baronius/Obama Birth Certificate . You will see the REAL BC and therein you will see Obama was BORN IN KENYA !!!!!

Even his foot print is on the BC !!!!!!!! Now, since this is on this website, WHY IN THE HELL DOESN'T CONGRESS KNOW ABOUT THIS !!!! AND WHY DON'T THEY DO THE JOB THEY ARE PAID TO DO !!!! IMPEACH HIM NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND NOT LET HIM RUN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!! I get so mad at our Congress - they are "PUSSYCATS" DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND LETS GET ON WITH OUR LIVES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The long term solutionis to vote out all LIBERALS in washington! All DEMS and all RINO'S. and replace them with true conservatives;not the John Boehner type, but the Jim Jordan type!

if not me, then who? if not now, when? I hope snd pray that this Communist/Islamist occupier of the oval office does not succeed but just in case I belive it is time to invest in precious metal... LEAD

You guys seem to feed on each others rhetoric. Obama was dealt

a lousy hand and has done a tremendous job playing it. If you worked

with him instead of against him we would all be better off. As for the

recent downgrade in our rating, you can lay that one on the Tea party.

My way or the highway is not the American way of doing business.

providence has showed it's hand, we must be steadfast and true to the principals of our republic, to keep it by any means necessary.

There has been a state of war between elements of our society for generations; between "progressive statists" and the governed, between minority racial groups and tradional white society, between union power and the rest of us who pay everyday for their overbearing extortion, between radical environmentalists (aided and abetted by useful idiots) who aim to bring down the capitalist system and most of the rest of us who have been served well by it, and so on. Their successes are due in large part to the great majority's failure to fight back. If we the majority do not begin to fight back with a fury to regain our liberties, our children and grandchildren face a variety of bondages: socialism, Marxism, Islamism.

The truth is: We the American People need to change. We want change, but we want to change others instead of starting with ourselves. Isn't that the main reason people elected Obama to the presidency?

There are no more easy ways out.

In the majority, we do not lack intelligence or initiative. However, we need to think better, work harder, Vote more intelligently, and become less worldly. That's what will begin to bring the right people into a smaller government and lesser bureaucracy. More self responsibility and productivity; thus a better economy and lowe rdebt.

I've thought a lot about how this country was formed some two hundred+ years ago-a bunch of like-minded patriots banding together to stand up to a tyrannical government. Though times have changed, the debate has not-we have a leader(?)who is trying to change this country and people are tired of his and his party's ambitions. Were today's patriots try to start a revolution, can you imagine the name calling that the left would come up with? Were the patriots in the 1700's radicals then? I suppose they were, but that is lost on today's left.

First option = ballot box.

If Nov 2012 election does not start to bring us back to what our Founders gave us then, yes, the bullet box.

It appears Thomas Jefferson was right. Sometimes it taks the blood of Patriots and tyrants to restore freedom.

Vote the politicians who helped create this mess out of office on Nov 12, 2012.

What more must it take to wake up the American

citizens who are being sold down the tubes!

RE: Hamilton:

We make under 1275.000 p/y/, around 125.000 or a little less total. My stance is, why give money to those who make less or have children? When I was younger and had 3 boys at home, I said, heck ye, give me the cash. Only one of my sons espouse that view and they all have children.

Our gov worked on tariff taxes, hard work, ingenuity. Drop the tax, live off of tariffs. I mentioned our companies starting in the late 70's, started to export johns to cheaper labor overseas. Bring them home.

I am for balance budget with modifications, encase of war, national disaster, but the way both sides are doing it?

We get back between 700.-900. p/y. To me it's not the overpay, to me, it's state, federal and medicare. When you add it all up with SSAN and medicade, it is not, here's one for you. The more we make, percentage wise, the less we take home percentage wise. I am going to have my accountant explain to me why am I paying Medicade? We both pay around 40. p/m?

For me it's no loopholes for business's, people despite of what they make, flat tax, and deal with it. For me, all of these oversight committees that overlap each other, shut them down. Yes, we need FAA, BLM, but a dozen gov agencies who do the same thing? I know this isn't popular but Wallstreet and the banks, they got deregulated and they tried to burn us and in doing so greed burned them. Deregulate the federal watchdog? maybe. One thing I've learned is people are greedy and will screw anyone over. To big to fail? Let them fail. No one is going to bail me out if I fail, let them go under

I hope the others has been keeping up with this exchange, it is an eye opener.

I am ticked

Could someone tell me just where all of the extra money has been spent? Have new programs come into play, or has old ones been expanded to account for the extral trillions? How can this happen in such a short while and without Congress' approval? Please tell me.

Thanks, Hask

Short & sweet - we need to get rid of Obama & ALL his cronies!

The ballot box or the cartridge box? There is another type of box that very few have mentioned, the prayer closet. The ballot can be taken away as can the rifle and bayonet, but none can keep a man from praying for his countrymen. We have been warned time and again that certain types of behavior will slowly kill us. How many of our fellow citizens have never seen the light of day, 50 or 60 millions? What is the difference between abortion and throwing infants into the Roman rivers?

What's the difference between abortion and sacrificing children to the ancient god Ashteroth? Why did God destroy Sodom was it not because of their sin? He could not even find 10 people in the whole city who were not homosexuals. If our country falls it will be because of our gross sinful condition. I don't know if it's too late, I hope not. For Him to lift His hand from us and leave us to sink deeper into our present moral condition is too terrible to contimplate. Our only hope of change is to repent of our rebelion and sins and recieve God's forgiveness through His Son Jesus who died on the cross on our behalf and who was raised from the dead. Our forfathers beleived in Him and trusted God for wisdom and strength. The result was the Declaration of Independence and the

Constitution. The way out of our present condition is the prayer closet.

Ballots are preferred, but I'm horribly afraid it will soon come to bullets. Those who are helping themselves to the fruits of everyone else's labors will NOT go away quietly. When the day comes- and it's coming quickly- that certain groups of people aren't 'getting what they rightly deserve' from everyone else all hell will break loose. I can only imagine what will happen with their messiah is defeated at the baltot box. Pray for the best, a pray as hard as you can. Prepare for the worst.

No idea what is happening. Sent y'all an e-mail about not receiving anything and received Monday and Tuesday post on Tuesday. Received nothing else until now, Saturday at 22:00 hours, and it is Thursday's post.

Enjoy your off time!

We are seeing the nation that many of us served, being destroyed before our eyes. I pray sincerely that we can survive until the 2012 election, and that there will be a course change, but that is increasingly uncertain. It isn't sufficient that Obama and his "Chicago Thugs" be defeated: the Constitution must be restored. Lord help our nation if we depend on a weak sister like Romney to lead recovery from the destruction this administration has perpetrated.

1- dump the income tax, install flat tax

2-term limits for congress. in and out. The argument against this is ridiculous.

3-make the case to the American voter "this is about the collective vs. the individual. I believe this will resonate with most non political voters.

The bullet box would only create a negative opportunity for the now very powerful and overbearing Fed. The Best way, I think to take the Country back is 1. to exercise your right to keep and bear arms and to support the pro gun groups fighting anti-gun legislation. check out GOA- Gun Owners of America, they are doing great things to keep the 2nd amendment intact. 2. Tea Partiers need to hold together and be a force to be reckoned with.

Obama needs to be impeached. Why is he still in office? The longer he is running this country into the ground the less chance America can be re-instated as a capitalist free society. I wonder if it is too late already. Eliminate the Feds controlling the education system. It is illegal for teachers to push their personal agenda on students anyway. Why is this not being addressed? Eliminate NPR - What the heck? There should not be any Fed funded propaganda. Eliminate the EPA controlling our energy grids. disaster in the making in more ways than 1. Close the borders. Eisenhower was very proficient during his adminstration. May need to take a look back. Quit pushing green jobs - green jobs will happen when they become efficient enough to compete in the FREE market.

Certainly not by bullets. That would be playing into Barry "Obama's" strategic plans of the demise of the world's only existing "Colonial" power. He wants civil unrest. All of his decisions are to bring us to our knees. Once the bullets start to fly, he'll declare Marshal Law, suspent the Constitutio, & declare himself "President for Life". Our Congress will follow, just like they've been following like sheep. Congress needs to show him what Checks & Balance is all about. The first thing to do is to stop paying all these Czars with our tax dollars. He appointed them; he pays them!

Stone Barack Hussein Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is a traitor of the United States of America: the downgrading of the United States by Standard & Poor's was not a coincidence, when it was done simultaneously with the Muslim Ramadan and Barack Hussein Obama birthday.

I WILL INDEED,IT IS BIG STEP TOO.ALREADY SPEAK AT CONFERENCE IN UN AND THEY DID NOT LIKE IT,BUT I EXPOSE,UN,CHRUCH'S IN WEST.....................

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Ruby Akhtar HELP TO GET 1 MILLION SIGNS AND OUR G-D OF ISRAEL OPEN EVERY DOOR IN WEST......................​........2011

We will prevail via the ballot box. 11/11 was just the beginning.

Change?

1) The D.C. culture of tax, spend, borrow

2) The continued D.C intrusions into every day american life.

- Begin elimination of Dept. of Energy

- Begin elimination of Dept. of Education

- Begin elimination of Commerce Dept.

- Begin doensizing of EPA

ballots before bullets,definitly..2012.things could change..if he wins again watch and see his drafties

coming to the front.

remember "we need a 'national civilian police

force',made like the military and trained,

think drafties..sieu-acorn-new black panthers..

keep aware..scary THEY ARE AREADY IN PLACE.

'SEMPER FI'

The residents of the United States of America are entirely too comfortable and too complacent to avail themselves of the ballot, so none should anticipate retrenchment to the use of arms to save that which could have been saved through peaceful means.

No, I think the zeal and the courage of the Founders who risked all, including the ire of their own complacent neighbors, has long since perished in the body politic at large. While it burns brightly for a small minority, I no longer believe that light is eternal, rather, I see its legacy as a historical footnote, turned from ideal to aberration by revisionist historians.

Obama is a want a be dictator, my fear is even if defeated in 2012 he won't leave willingly.

Bullets!

The quintessential lack of fore-sight in American thinking is frightening. There have been good, thoughtful voices warning of this violent possibility since the 60's (really, much before then, but a real cogent strong emphasis surfaced around those years). If there is no return to Biblical thinking, there will be no possibility of debate on any real terms. If there is no debate due to a lack of common nomenclature for discussion, there will be no resolution of philosophical thought around the Constitution. If there is no longer a common thread for the rule of law, there will be anarchy between competing ideological groups. This competition will destroy free market enterprise--producing hardship on the average people. This is always a prescription for civil unrest (UNLESS the 10 Commandments hold sway in the hearts and minds of most citizens). The resultant violence will frighten anyone with common sense and bring about a willingness to live under autocratic rule. Those now in office WANT this to be the case to increase their hold on power. What they fail to comprehend, however, is that the autocratic rule desired by many is not just based in our nation. The resultant "global citizen" garbage will be forced down everyone's throat--and there will be no reprieve for a significant period. We are only 60 years away from one form of this, and merely twenty years from the fall of the Iron Curtain; with recent history teaching us this very lesson one can only marvel at the ignorance brought on by the desire to call sin freedom and righteousness coercion.

Ballot, or Bullet box, WOW. How can a country that has been led by so many great men come to this? The American people who have not paid attention to what is going on around them that's how!!! Wake up America!!!! The thousands and thousands of heroes in every grave yard in this country and around the world are full of men and women who know just how important LIBERTY is. Who will be the next George Washington, or Samuel Adams? We who love liberty would rather die on our feet fighting for it then live on our knees without it. God Bless America!!!

Keep your powder dry. remember this country is new compaired to the rest of the world. Revolutions occuring daily. happen here ???? mmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ballot box, or bullets - that IS the question.1st: Too many Americans only worry about making that next paycheck,instead of actually taking the time to serve or,at least care about the country,instead of selfishly only caring about themselves.Voting should be a REQUIREMENT, not just a right.I believe every citizen should serve at least 2 years before going to college. In the military you will actually learn something useful-not just how to protest(!) and become a SOCIALIST.2nd:the Democrat Party ought to come out of the closet and call themselves what they really are-Socialists! If conservatives do not take back the Senate,and keep the House,while regaining the White House,too,it may become necessary(in the course of human events) to re-take the government back from the tyrants who now control the government,including,but not limited to: the State Dept, the departments of the Interior,Justice,FDA,FCC,DOD,NSA,CIA,FBI,Homeland Security(which we never needed to start with),Education,HHS,-in short, everything!

The politics of the Hippies in the 60's was SOCIALISM- nothing else!Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn were, and still are, dedicated SOCIALISTS,along with the Clintons. The Weatherunderground, the SDS, the Black Panthers were all socialist organisations,and all are making comebacks(or,are trying to) in the college system,where they came from to start with. George Soros is actually MORE dangerous than Obama and his cronies,but they are tied in together, with Soros funding all these organisations, including the Democratic Party, ACORN,the Apollo Group (who actually wrote the Obamacare law),etc... But,you must remember that Obama isn't the first Socialist President- It all started with Wilson, then FDR, then Carter, and finally Obama. But, Obama is by far the worst of the lot! More than this; he is a Muslim, and NOT a Christian. Why do you think he holds Ramadan in the White House, but NOT the Christian Day of Prayer?? He uses the Muslim principle of Taqquiya for his smokescreen. Lying is LEGAL under the Koran for this purpose,which by comparison, is NEVER legal in the Torah,or the Christian Bible. It just may come to BULLETS!!

To: RK Sprau

I wasn't really interested too much in how much you and your wife make per year. I'm only interested in what percentage of your gross you pay in tax. But you haven't made that calculation yet, so I can't comment on it.

Don't feel too bad about being ticked. When I read over your replies and see where you're coming from, it's easy to realize that that you have plenty of company, especially among business owners.

No, it's not right that your income should be tapped off of to support someone else's kids. No, it's not right for taxpayers to be contributing to government programs from which they will never benefit, while others will. No, it's not right that the more you make, the greater percentage you pay in taxes. The progressive tax system is partially the cause of the wide income disparity in America - something about which Liberals lament. The irony is that their own policies cause that malady. No, it's not right for loopholes to exist either in business or in personal taxes. It's not right for the government to pick and choose which "deserving" or "needy" or "poor" or "troubled" subgroup should get discriminatory, preferential treatment at others' expense. No, it's not right for big business ventures to be able to rely on being bailed out if they falter. That's behavior that typically doesn't cure them much, but it sure pulls the rest of us down a bit. And again, it's discriminatory since, as you pointed out, you wouldn't be bailed out if you failed.

I could go on and on with these "no, it's not right..." scenarios, but what's the point? You understand all this. You see, the point here is that this is what Liberalism does. All these policies to which we object, and for which we taxpayers pay the price - that is Liberalism. The rules of any game exist to prevent anyone from getting unfair advantage. The rules of society and government exist to promote harmony in society and to protect everyone from unfair treatment and harm. Liberalism bends, massages, manipulates, and breaks the rules of society and government, which then allows individuals or groups of individuals to game society in ways that weren't allowed before the Liberal interference. Liberalism not only promotes lawlessness and disorder, it creates it!

We've never been closer to the need for bullets over ballots since the founding of this great nation.

Bullets it will be! Sad but true.

Always better to try and solve the problem at the ballot box first, the bullets should be a last resort. Look at what's happening around the world and ask yourself if bullets are the answer. There is a chance ( a good chance) to defeat Obama in 2012 but, whoever get the nod we must stand behind 100%. If that fails.....then it's time to arm up.

First of all I want to thank you at the Patriot Post for doing what you do. Publishing the truth. I applaud you and support you verbally and financially. As for my comment:

I hope voting him out will suffice but the damage done will take years to correct, if at all possible. ALL of my friends and even aquaintences express feelings of disenfranchisement to the point of giving up hope. All you get back when you try and contact your representative in congress is stupid form letters. They think we are stupid here in 'fly-over' country. They are heading for a real suprise. No veiled threats here. Just take a good objective look around at the street level. Talk to the working people and you will find that out quickly. Frustration and anger are building to the boiling point with many hard working, taxpaying Americans. Congress does NOT listen to us anymore. Not that they ever did in the first place. It is no longer "for the people and by the peopl"e. It is all for 'them'. Tell me how something as scandalous as "Fast and Furious" gun running by the ATF being sanctioned by the justice department can be covered up by the Obama Administration and AG Holder and his ilk? They deny congressional investigators to the point of blatantly ignoring their calls for transparency in investigation of this debacle. They are blocking or ordering full silence or denial from the ATF agents with knowledge regarding this crime. They are not cooperating with the congressional investigations and inquirys. This is an outrage. We can no longer count on "news" from the media anymore because they are blatantly biased and non-objective regarding this administration. And the list goes on and on. Am I mad? Damn right I am and I am NOT going to take much more of this! T. Jefferson had it right when he said... "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants". I presently see what looks like treasonous activity abounding. Enough said. Words are useless at this point. I vote for the passing of the ammo and kicking some butts up on the hill. I think we should all refuse to pay our taxes next year. Think the country could unify and do something like that. Hell no. There is so much apathy and indifference amongst us there will be no unity and that is just one of Obamas strategies. Divide and conguer. He wants race riots and division. Any reason at all to call for Martial Law and try to take over. I do not believe the military will comply with that at all. The next couple of years are going to be a bumpy ride folks. Pardon the misspellings and typos from an old man. Pray for America.

If government spending on programs such as food stamps is so good why don't we all go on food stamps to resolve the debt issue. I am a tea party member and proud of it and will work hard during the next election to make sure that we are not subjected to the insanity the denialacrats (democrats) seem to advocate through larger more intrusive, big spending government.

We need to completely turn over the Senate and gain more seats in the House so their bills are veto proof, then start rolling back all of the 2009 and 2010 legislation (Obamacare, etc) and regulations strangling the businesses in this Country. Throw out the IRS and reform/transform the tax law. Replace all of the appointed liberal judges starting with the 9th circuit court. Impeach the liberal judges in the Supreme Court that consistently rule against the Constitution (example: McDonald vs Chicago). Abolish the Department of Education, Agriculture, and Environment and reduce substantially the remainder departments except the Military. That would be good Start!

I believe that we will use the ballot at least a few more times. That does not mean it will be "easy". Hard economic times lead to breadlines

and looting like in Britain; we will be lucky to avoid some of that, mainly in the poor urban areas.

I,m sorry to say that I believe the system is going to cal apse before it then is forced to changed. To many people are beholden to the current direction.

Tough talk about taking up arms might feel good, but I think you might find that there are a surprisingly large number of patriotic Americans willing to arm themselves and defend their chosen / democratically elected officials. (Regardless of party affiliation.) I count myself one of them.

I understand that there is no room in your belief system for others who disagree with you, but you may want to consider which is more important to you, your political ideology or your country.

*impeached*

"Why do you keep using that word? ...I do not think it means what you think it means."

In a society that supposedly respects the rule of law the ballot box is the preference. Since our society is prone to having the ballot box filled with the votes of those who have all ready died, I'm afraid the bullet will be necessary.

Please register to vote. Please vote. Please vote Obama out. I know of someone who voted for Obama. It wasn't me. They don't like the change they got. Viet Nam 1969. Washington--- Get back to our constitution and the laws it represents. If not, we are all in deep trouble.

Given current National Intelligence Community sensor technology, it is virtually impossible for evenb a small group of Patriots to oppose the central government in an armed manner.

However, policy can be made and influenced "in the street" if Patriots are willing to turn out in large numbers frequently and persistently demonstrating for liberty and against the current Socialist administration.