People despise Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.

Protesters call her a white supremacist, and hold up signs that say, “students are not for sale.” Some physically block her from schools.

John Stossel went to the mammoth Education Department headquarters in Washington, DC, to get DeVos’ response to the haters. She says she’s “undeterred.”

Public schools have stuck with the same education system we’ve had for more than a hundred years — an “industrial model” that treats kids as widgets, DeVos tells Stossel. The charter and private schools she champions are more free to innovate, to set different hours, to be open during summer, or to pay good teachers more.

DeVos also tells Stossel that she’s not the nation’s “choice chief.” She can’t force school choice on states. But she can encourage innovation, and she will.